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Bob Saget 2.0

theodp writes "Slate makes a pretty convincing argument that YouTube and its knock-offs can trace their roots back to America's Funniest Home Videos." From the article: "The show's stock in trade was to find the lowest common denominator and then hit it in the crotch. Consider this list of select highlights from the show's 'Best of Kids & Animals' DVD: a kid doing a cannonball onto his dad's groin, a baby running into a church pew, a dog peeing on a wedding dress, and a kid clocking his dad in the nuts with a helmet. While these clips are all certainly lowbrow, they've also got something else in common: They're oozing with family values."

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  1. Why is 1800 of 2000 trampoline accidents? by iogan · · Score: 4, Funny
    At its height, viewers sent America's Funniest Home Videos 2,000 VHS tapes a day, and at least 1,800 of those, it seemed, showed some kind of trampoline mishap.
    Wouldn't that seem a bit high? What are all these people doing on trampolines? What am I missing here?
    1. Re:Why is 1800 of 2000 trampoline accidents? by xeoron · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Don't know about you, but most of the AFHV's was not that funny or often at all. Most of the videos only would be funny if it happened in person to someone. Instead of them cherry picking what the masses might like, places like youtube let people choose themselves, along with screen any videos instead of a select few.

    2. Re:Why is 1800 of 2000 trampoline accidents? by a16 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't that seem a bit high? What are all these people doing on trampolines? What am I missing here?
      The joke? ;)

  2. But youtube isn't usually funny! by crazyjeremy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now if most of youtube's content could be somewhat funny, or even "slightly more funny than bland humor" I would see comparing it to funniest home videos. Like it is, youtube is painful to endure. I would venture to say countless people singing into a qvga camera isn't exactly entertaining for most of us.

    1. Re:But youtube isn't usually funny! by FuturePastNow · · Score: 3, Informative

      "America's Funniest Home Videos" culled out probably 99% of the tapes they received. On Youtube, you get to see all the rejects.

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    2. Re:But youtube isn't usually funny! by legoburner · · Score: 5, Funny
      "America's Funniest Home Videos" culled out probably 99% of the tapes they received

      The department which did that must have a higher suicide rate than the russian military!
    3. Re:But youtube isn't usually funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny? "America's Funniest Home Videos" rivals Japanese extreme gore for the title of most concerning social development of the past 20 years. Visual media with no other discernable purpose than enjoying the infliction of pain have been increasing in popularity for decades but those are all make-believe. Week after week of a dim, smarmy host fronting videos of real personal home injuries and harrowing narrow calls crossing over to healthy family entertainment says more about the general public than violent video games ever could.

  3. Youtube Wins by potpie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Youtube may have some low-brow physical humor, but America's "Funniest" Home Videos doesn't have TV clips and music videos. The variety alone places Youtube in an entirely different category. Plus, Youtube doesn't have those annoying voice-overs.

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    1. Re:Youtube Wins by Schemat1c · · Score: 3, Funny

      far less talent than Bob Saget himself,...

      Bob Saget had talent?

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    2. Re:Youtube Wins by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Informative

      You should see his stand-up. The guy's hilarious, and his stuff is dirty as hell. He just sold out completely for Full House.

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    3. Re:Youtube Wins by Massif · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Personally I think the only reason Bob Saget is funny is because of the huge contrast between his raunchy stand up comedy and his Full House/AFHV persona. If he hadn't done those awful family shows, he would be just another vulgar comedian.

  4. speaking of... by chasingporsches · · Score: 4, Insightful

    speaking of bob saget and youtube...

    THIS is bob saget 2.0! (NSFW)

  5. There go the family jewels... by Chaffar · · Score: 4, Funny
    For all its black eyes and unplanned water landings, America's Funniest Home Videos always reinforced the nuclear family as this country's central institution. A child hitting his dad in the groin is a child who's spending quality time with his dad.
    Remind me to kick my dad in the balls next time he wants to spend quality time playing Scrabble with me...
  6. Makes sense to me by dividedsky319 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm 24 years old, and I gotta admit... AFV (America's Funniest Videos) is still one of my favorite shows to watch. Sure, it's mindless content, but no other show on tv packs more laughs per minute.

    Maybe it's a bit juvenile laughing at old people falling over, people getting hit in the crotch, or just general stupidity of people with too much time on your hands, but... AFV is basically a bunch of youtube videos strung together, and is funny no matter what age you are. (Just ignore the lame jokes by the host...)

    Sure, there's other content on Youtube that isn't of the "funny video" variety, but... I'd say that the majority of the "viral videos" that get spread around the internet are of the funny variety, and what drives the majority of the site.

    1. Re:Makes sense to me by cubicledrone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it American humor?

      American television executive humor. About as funny as applying for a dog license.

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    2. Re:Makes sense to me by Bluesman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're not alone. I think these shows survive by attracting a ridiculously small minority of people who think they're funny.

      A *really* popular sitcom might get a few million people to watch it every night. Out of a population of 400 million, the actual ratio of people who enjoy that humor regularly is tiny.

      My guess is that's it's much easier and cheaper to produce crap and get 30% of an already small audience simply by being slightly less crappy than the competition, than it would be to produce something great and attract more people who would usually do something else.

      To get a really huge audience, you would need not only to win over the people who think TV sucks, but also the kind of people who watch "Everybody Loves Raymond" religiously. What kind of show would appeal to both sets of people? I certainly don't know.

      And as far as AFV goes, the first show ever was hysterical, and it was all downhill from there. Now you're really lucky if it's as funny as a "Cathy" cartoon.

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  7. I'm missing something here... by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sometimes, someone will send me a link to a video on YouTube that's pretty funny. From there, the "similar videos" function lets me find other humorous videos in the same vein (e.g. Stephen Colbert clips, MST3K clips, whatever).

    However, when I approach the site's front-end, the "most X" (where X is popular, viewed, voted on, or whatever) lineups are jammed full of webcam clips, in-jokes, and episodes of anime. It's a bizarre disconnect.

  8. Do they know by in2mind · · Score: 3, Insightful
    While it may not have encouraged child abuse, America's Funniest Home Videos did encourage child exploitation.

    I have wondered how many parents know that their teenage kids are dancing in front of the camera for youtube's global audience.

  9. So what? by Hoppelainen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can do the same comparison for just about everything, how the car has it's roots in the horsewagon, how the internet has it's root in just about any other media distribution etc...

    And while I'm at it, why say "YouTube and its knock-offs", YouTube wasn't exactly the first site where one can post homevideos. YouTube is a knock-off which just happens to be the biggest.

  10. Re:GCD, LCM by richdun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, lowest common denominator is okay. For instance, when adding the fractions 1/6, 2/3, and 4/18, you could convert all the fractions to a denominator of 54, as in 9/54, 27/54, and 12/54. But the correct procedure is to convert them to a denominator of 18, as in 3/18, 9/18, and 4/18 (16/18, or 8/9). And the lowest common denominator is only 1 if the numbers are all integers. You can't express 1/6 as a fraction of integers with a denominator of 1.

    For more, see Wikipedia.

  11. There's something potentially better about youtube by symbolic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not sure I agree that it can be traced "back to" a TV show like AFV. That's like saying that because Christianity decries murder and adultery, that any system of morals that incorporate these same values, has its Christian roots. What we're talking about here is universal appeal: they are elements within our social makeup that inspire a natural interest.

    However, the interesting thing about youtube is that with few exceptions, it is a relatively unfiltered medium. There is no marketing department behind the scenes deciding what it thinks you'll like. You pick the stuff you do find interesting, and ignore the stuff you don't. I would agree that it's a somewhat tedious process sometimes, but what's nice about the way that youtube is structured is that what started out as a dead end (something uninteresting), can sometimes lead you to something very worthwhile via the associated links that show up, or responses that people other members have posted.

    My only gripe really is that I wish people would observe a bare minimum of what makes a watchable video - shooting in near-complete darkness isn't one of them, nor is movement that makes it look like the one holding the camera is having a grand mal seizure.

  12. New slogan for YouTube by jb.hl.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    "YouTube: Everything Slashdotters hate about MySpace rendered as a low quality video"

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  13. everything I learned about america by smoondog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everything I learned about America I learned from watching "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Antiques Roadshow"

    Think about it.