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Star Trek PhD Thesis Wins Academic Prize

An anonymous reader writes "A PhD thesis based on Star Trek has won an Australian university's top academic prize. Dr Djoymi Baker's 90,000 word dissertation 'Broadcast Space: TV Culture, Myth and Star Trek' was awarded the University of Melbourne's Chancellor's Prize for Excellence in the PhD. Dr Baker watched over 700 Star Trek episodes — more than 624 hours — to investigate the relationship between ancient mythology and today's popular culture. American academics thought her research was 'superlative' and suitable for teaching."

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  1. Slashdot Motto: The Next Generation by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

    I'm a doctor, not an editor! Not kill I.

    It's an article, CmdrTaco, but not as we know it. Ahead mod factor five.

    1. Re:Slashdot Motto: The Next Generation by rpbird · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know I'm being just the biggest Star Trek nerd ever, but isn't it "No kill I"?

      My God, Jim, it's a nitpicker!

    2. Re:Slashdot Motto: The Next Generation by moro_666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod him up, Scotty !

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  2. Finally by mordors9 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally Star Trek is gaining the academic recognition it so richly deserves. Having Trekology as an official subject for a BS degree should be coming up soon at all major mail order universities. Live long and prospers.

    1. Re:Finally by Azarael · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey, there's some good subject matter in Star Trek, especially TNG. In my philosophy of medicine class, we had a medical ethics paper on the episode where Worf has spinal replacement surgery ;-)
       
      It may not be high art, but I bet their aren't that many shows that are worthy of serious academic study.

    2. Re:Finally by EvanED · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've heard of "Measure of a Man" used in an ai class or something similar.

      (For those unfamiliar, this was an episode early on in the series. Some random character at a space station wanted to disassemble Data to study him. After talking with this dude, Data decided that he hadn't the proper background knowledge to be able to reassemble him when he was done, so refused to undergo the procedure. The guy got an admiral to order Data from the Enterprise to go with him for the experiments, so Data resigned Starfleet. Starfleet responded by claiming that Data was its property and didn't have the right to resign, so Data went to a trial/hearing type thing so that a judge could decide. Picard argued that Data had the right to resign, and Riker was ordered to take the opposite side. (They didn't have any actual lawyers at this space station, so the top-ranking officials acted, though Riker against his will.) The episode was essentially about what constitutes life.)

    3. Re:Finally by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I've heard of "Measure of a Man" used in an ai class or something similar....The episode was essentially about what constitutes life.)

      Not knocking this; but this theme goes back to the very first SF story, Frankenstein (1818). And more recently, Isaac Asimov's robot stories in the 1940s and 50s. Trek is fun, but not highly original in its storylines.

    4. Re:Finally by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This was the first really good TNG episode. Unfortunately, it was spoiled somewhat by the final speech of the judge, in which she started to raise the question whether or not Data has a soul. A soul is a metaphysical construct that has nothing to do with the facts that were presented by either Picard or Riker, and does not belong in a court of law. The judge finally awarded victory to Data because she felt she was unable to decide whether or not he has a soul, so she gave him the benefit of the doubt. But think of it: if it could be proven that Data actually has no soul, does that mean he would have been handed over to Starfleet and be dismantled? Urgh.

    5. Re:Finally by volpe · · Score: 2, Interesting
      But think of it: if it could be proven that Data actually has no soul, does that mean he would have been handed over to Starfleet and be dismantled?

      You pose that as a rhetorical question, but it seems to me it's a legitimate one. I take it that your answer is "no"? In that case, what other kinds of machines would not be allowed to be dismantled? Suppose you, Flyboy Connor, are the native English speaker carrying out the rules in a Chinese Room Experiment. Someone submits to you a batch of symbols written in Chinese which comprise a question. You carry out the rules and return a batch of symbols that comprise an answer. Except that, unbeknownst to you, the question was,
      "Flyboy Connor is getting sick and tired of this job and wants to go home. Should we let him?"
      And the answer from the Chinese Room was
      "What?!? Have you lost your mind, man? Don't you understand that Flyboy is the neurotransmitter in my synapses? If he leaves, I'll die! I'll cease to be! I'll be an EX-CHINESE-ROOM! Oh, dear God, please don't let him leave!!! I don't want to die! I have my whole life ahead of me! There are so many questions left for me to ponder! You can't do this to me! Flyboy Connor must NEVER be allowed to leave! NEVER, I tell you! NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!"


      What say you now, eh Flyboy? Sucks to be you, doesn't it.

      Sorry. It's 3:45 AM and I can't sleep.
    6. Re:Finally by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You pose that as a rhetorical question, but it seems to me it's a legitimate one. I take it that your answer is "no"?

      I would say that Picard's argumentation was that Data could not really be distinguished from a living, sentient being, so that the ruling should be in his favor. His vision was that if the judge would allow Data to be "enslaved" because he was ruled not to be sentient, the judge should be very clear about where the line is drawn, because that would open the door to the enslaving of all kinds of races.

      The supposedly rethorical question is not legitimate (in this episode), because the existence of a soul is not brought forth as an issue by either Picard or Riker. It should not play a role in the judge's ruling. The answer should be "no" with or without Data having a soul.

      And if you ask my personal opinion: I do not believe in the concept of a soul as a separate entity that occupies our bodies and can exist after death. So I say that I have no soul. And still I do not wish to be dismantled. The fact that I admit that I have no soul is no reason to dismantle me. The fact that I can express the genuine wish not to be dismantled should secure my rights in that respect.

      But if I was just an entity in a Chinese Room experiment, with no other desires and wishes than just to translate scribbles to different scribbles, it seems to me that I am not sentient. So, if there comes a day that I am reduced to that, please dismantle me.

  3. Sure, she got a Ph.D., but . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... did she successfully pass the Kobayashi Maru exam?

    1. Re:Sure, she got a Ph.D., but . . . by schon · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had no idea what Kobayashi Maru was

      Heathen!

    2. Re:Sure, she got a Ph.D., but . . . by leoboiko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, wpedia is really amazing for pop culture. Traditional encyclopedias choose to ignore pop culture out of cultural bias, but the large amount of pop-related articles on wpedia reflect how much people enjoy the stuff.

      However, I'm now eager to know how were the "Ferengui manners" Nog dealt with the test, and all I can find are those shameful wpedia clones...

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      Prescriptive grammar:linguistics :: alchemy:chemistry. Stop being a nazi and learn some science.
    3. Re:Sure, she got a Ph.D., but . . . by Coward+the+Anonymous · · Score: 4, Funny
      ... did she successfully pass the Kobayashi Maru exam?


      The fact that I know what you're talking about makes me want to cry.
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      -- Jason
  4. SlashScholar. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "A PhD thesis based on Star Trek has won an Australian university's top academic prize."

    Now all we need is a PhD thesis based on several years of reading slashdot.

  5. Today's "true" myths by w33t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is nice to think that at least today we KNOW that our myths are made-up.

    But there are still some people who manage to insist they are real, actual events! - UFO religions like the Scientologists or heaven's gate.

    Nonetheless, despite the fact that our current mythology is fiction, Star Trek and the like are at least Science Fiction: not based upon the supernatural, but instead upon testable, and currently tested theories and ideas.

    Amazing: even as culturally advanced as we fancy ourselves, we still retain those ancient urges to believe in the fantastic. But
    perhaps that's because so much in this universe is actually fantastic; far more, in fact, than we ever imagined.

    It reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from the late, great Dr. Feynman: "Far more marvelous is the truth than any artists of the
    past imagined it. Why do the poets of the present not speak of it? What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were a man, but if
    he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?"

    1. Re:Today's "true" myths by Rakishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Star Trek and the like are at least Science Fiction: not based upon the supernatural, but instead upon testable, and currently tested theories and ideas.

      Star Trek based on science? Muahahahah, *wipes eye* that was hilarious. It's like the definition of unrealistic and unscientific sci-fi, a fantasy series with a weak blanket of "science" shoved on top.

    2. Re:Today's "true" myths by Moofie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, because the only reason WE can't redirect the output from the dilithium matrix through the deflector array to close a rift in the space-time continuum and send Q back home is because we didn't build the Superconducting Supercollider.

      Star Trek is space opera. Entertaining? Sure. Scientific? Not so much.

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    3. Re:Today's "true" myths by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Star Wars mostly ignores science. Star Trek actively butchers it at every opportunity.

      --
      ... I'm addicted to placebos
    4. Re:Today's "true" myths by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why do the poets of the present not speak of it?

      The Horses Name was Physics

      The Horse's name was Physics,
      and they rode it well.
      The only difference was this:
      Some chose to flog the horse,
      some flogged themselves.

      A book of poems about the development of atomic theory from WWI to the atomic bomb, although it deals mostly with the personalities involved and not the atom itself.

      KFG

    5. Re:Today's "true" myths by ptbarnett · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Yeah, because the only reason WE can't redirect the output from the dilithium matrix through the deflector array to close a rift in the space-time continuum and send Q back home is because we didn't build the Superconducting Supercollider.

      It's interesting that you picked the SSC for your example.

      John Cramer (a physics professor at the University of Washington) wrote a book entitled Einstein's Bridge. It's what he calls "hard science fiction", about how the SSC was actually built and resulted in an invasion by a hostile intelligence. The protagonists somehow travel back in time and manipulate the political process so that the SSC is never built.

    6. Re:Today's "true" myths by SageMusings · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well,

      We did have one episode where Kirk built a gunpowder cannon to survive the Gorn....

      Okay, okay...I'll shut up.

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      -- Posted from my parent's basement
  6. I didn't believe it... by nebaz · · Score: 5, Informative

    But it is possible. There are (courtesy of tv.com)
    79 Original Trek Episodes
    178 Next Gen Episodes
    176 Deep Space Nine Episodes
    172 Voyager Episodes
    98 Enterprise Episodes

    Which totals 703 episodes. He didn't even need the 22 Animated Series episodes.

    Wow.

    --
    Rhymes that keep their secrets will unfold behind the clouds.There upon the rainbow is the answer to a neverending story
    1. Re:I didn't believe it... by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Informative

      She, if you can believe it.

      -Peter

    2. Re:I didn't believe it... by psxman · · Score: 2, Informative

      72/73, says Wikipedia

    3. Re:I didn't believe it... by Jim+Hall · · Score: 5, Funny

      And a cute one too

      I'm sure I will go to that special hell for reducing a PhD to a sexist remark. :-)

    4. Re:I didn't believe it... by Kaemaril · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wonder which ones she couldn't stand to watch?

      I'd wager 500 quatloos one of them was Spock's Brain :)

    5. Re:I didn't believe it... by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Informative

      To further that, something I calculated when Enterprise went off the air:

      Now that Star Trek's over, it's interesting to see exactly how much Star Trek there is (canon only, add 660 minutes/11 hours if you include The Animated Series):

      Movies:

      The Motion Picture: 132 minutes
      The Wrath of Khan: 113 minutes
      The Search for Spock: 105 minutes
      The Voyage Home: 119 minutes
      The Final Frontier: 107 minutes
      The Undiscovered Country: 113 minutes
      Generations: 118 minutes
      First Contact: 106 minutes
      Insurrection: 103 minutes
      Nemesis: 116 minutes

      Episodes:

      The Original Series: 79 (3713 minutes @ 47 minutes/episode)
      The Next Generation: 178 (8010 minutes @ 45 minutes/episode)
      Deep Space Nine: 176 (7920 minutes @ 45 minutes/episode)
      Voyager: 172 (7740 minutes @ 45 minutes/episode)
      Enterprise: 98 (4116 minutes @ 42 minutes/episode)

      Movies Total: 1132 minutes (18 hours, 52 minutes)
      Episodes Total: 31499 minutes (524 hours, 59 minutes)
      Grand Total: 32631 minutes (543 hours, 51 minutes)

      That's 22 days, 15 hours and 51 minutes of Star Trek. Not bad...

    6. Re:I didn't believe it... by SinGunner · · Score: 2, Funny

      given your skewed perception of reality in calling the picture of that girl cute, i think you have nothing to worry about with the afterlife thing. whether you go up or down, i don't believe you'll be able to tell the difference.

  7. I think I going for my Pschology or Sociology... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ph.D.

    Djoymi Baker watched 700 episodes - 624 hours without ads - of Star Trek and its spin-offs, dating from 1966 to 2005, in the name of research.

    But for me it would be:

    Anonymous Coward watched 700 episodes - 624 hours without ads - of pornography and its cum-shots, dating from 1966 to 2005, in the name of research.

  8. Yep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...sounds like BS to me!

  9. In other news by LSD-OBS · · Score: 3, Funny

    Popular bittorrent sites have noted a huge spike in Star Trek episode downloads over the last 12 months...

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    Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson
  10. Re:Myth and Star Trek??? by Scutter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Watch closer. The whole of ST:TOS was an exploration of the Human Condition. It just happened to take place in space, ergo it was "Sci Fi".

    --

    "Tell me doctor, with all of your defenses, are there any provisions for an attack by killer bees?"
  11. Not yet, but maybe soon by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally Star Trek is gaining the academic recognition it so richly deserves. Having Trekology as an official subject for a BS degree should be coming up soon at all major mail order universities. Live long and prospers.

    Maybe some day those who embrace the Federation's Ideals can be accepted on a jury or even in public office.

    stardate 2006.828 i've successfully been elected to the town school board. the squabbling is terrible and nothing ever gets done. i've never felt in need of a phaser so much in my life.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  12. Star Trek vs Star Gate on mythology. by MavEtJu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    to investigate the relationship between ancient mythology and today's popular culture.

    Star Trek? My bet would be that the first few seasons of Star Gate would give much more away on that.

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  13. Re:Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this any less valid than a PhD surrounding the works of Shakespeare? It could be reasonably argued that the collected episodes of Star Trek represent a far larger body of work, that they do indeed influence pop culture substantially and serve as a superb mirror for the social attitudes of contemporary society.

    Mind, my PhD is in Computer Science, so all that humanities stuff is more or less the same to me. If you can't code it, it isn't good enough!

  14. Futurama called the whole mythology thing by w33t · · Score: 4, Funny

    Star Trek "priest": "And Scotty beamed them to the Klingon ship, where there would be no tribble at all"
    Crowd chants: "All power to the engines!"

  15. Darn, must now go for my second choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Mirror of human values by Anonymous Cowards

    Abstract: In the spirit of the best human qualities, Anonymous Cowards seeking public yet anonymous recognition show formidable selflessness. By doing away with the link between benevolent exposure of ideas and karma gratification they elevate public commentary to a social reinforcement of Insightful, Interesting and Funny: all essential components of high achievements. This in turn strengthens the Blog medium with not only cohesive forces but justifies the Anonymous Cowards with legitimacy beyond what have been observed throughout the history of the Internets. Their willingness to start from scratch over and over yet still earn the respect of their peers hardly justifies the "coward" epithet and proves that comments, even at -1, are a gold mine for those seeking understanding of TFA.

    We will show that Anonymous Corwardiness is alive and well and that despite sometime adverse moderation, this modern tradition offers by its unique qualities a look inside the human soul.

  16. Not necessarily. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A myth is just a story that explains something.
    Myths are also used to pass on the culture, norms, values, mores and ethics from one generation to the next.

    And to reinforce those in each generation.

    Myths tell us what is "good" and what is "bad".
  17. Re:Myth and Star Trek??? by Jerf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There was nearly no over-arching Myth, but many of the episodes had mythic elements, some altogether too literally. (Remember when our intrepid crew encountered the actual, factual Greek God Apollo?)

    But you miss the main point, which is thanks to the magic of Deconstruction, you can read anything you want into anything you want. So of course Star Trek has embedded myth, any embedded myth you want. It also contains deep wisdom about how post-feminist transgendered dialogs can be resolved in a quasi-imperialist milieu steeped in the rhetoric of oppressive patriarchial systemic dynamics in a quantum mechanical universe, if you look hard enough.

    Isn't literary criticism fun?

  18. Re:Next up by Tyir · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, your point would be a little more effective if the quote you gave was actually from Shatner, rather than a Saterday Night Live skit.

    The website you gave *was* http://snltranscripts.jt.org/

  19. What's Truly Amazing Here by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's really amazing here is that Djoymi Baker is female. Die-hard ST fans weren't known often for being of the fairer sex.

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  20. Re:Proof by Quaoar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Culture is culture. If no one looks at culture of the present day, we lose a lot of valuable information. You're basically saying it's OK to abolish the study of culture at the university level. And while I am not personally interested in Star Trek, I do think that it has had an amazing influence over a large portion of the general population, and studying that effect is definitely worth the effort. And I wouldn't be surprised if someone doesn't look at the effect of the Simpsons on our civilization. Ignoring the mundane details that describe our culture means ignoring the essence of culture as a whole.

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  21. Re:Star Trek by DittoBox · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no, no. Not 'shitty'. The term you're looking for is 'Shatty'.

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  22. check out the others... by Quadraginta · · Score: 2, Informative

    This just proves that PhD stands for "piled higher and deeper."

    Not all PhD's. But in this case...I'm a little inclined to agree. No offence to the talented and fetching Dr. Baker, but here are the other three winners of the U of Melbourne's Chancellor's Prize of Excellence:

    (1) "Penelope Smith (Social Sciences), who used economic modeling to better understand business cycles in Australia and large Group of 7 economies - drawing information which is critical for setting fiscal and monetary policy."

    (2) "Martin de Jonge (Science and Engineering) whose work will lead to more incisive synchrotron x-ray studies that are 100 times more accurate than current levels."

    (3) "Christopher Smith (Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences) who identified the cell which encourages the body's immune system to fight the herpes simplex virus."

    Seems like a wee bit more serious and useful work. On the other hand, clearly Baker is a right clever jane, having figured out how to get the yeomanry of 'Stralia pay her a handsome stipend for five years while she watches her favorite TV show and takes notes. Well done, lass! You have to admire that kind of panache.

    1. Re:check out the others... by Altima(BoB) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I dunno, your analysis seems to dismiss Dr. Baker (who is a fox) and her research just because it is in a modern cultural field. Yes, something like a medical advance is extremely useful to humanity, but when he isn't studying immunological facotrs relating to the herpes virus, what does Dr Christopher Smith watch on TV while he relaxes? Why does he watch it, and what does it say about the greater cultural forces surrounding him? If he responds to the Borg, for instance, as effective villains, why is that? Is it because they are ugly and their mechanical elements makes them intimidating, or is it because they represent the polar opposite of the Thatcher-esque mode of thinking that has come to define modern capitalist nations? (Thatcher once said there is no society, only individuals. The Borg are the exact opposite.)

      I could go on a rant about how medicine may allow us to live, but culture makes life worth living, but it would be a stretch to say that Dr Baker is producing culture. What she is doing is helping us understand our own culture. When we foster a society that can engage critically with its own culture and media, we have a culture that is less susceptble to the influence of those who would use media to control the public. We gain understanding, or at least perspective, on the other cultures surrounding is and the cultures that preceded us, and we also open doorways to a brighter future. How many people do you think became engineers or scientists thanks to watching Star Trek as children? Couldn't Jules Verne and Meliés deserve some credit for inspiring certain elements of our journeys to the mood and beneath the oceans?

      As someone currently in college, currently studying animation (but finding myself drawn away from the practical side and towards the theoretical side) I often grapple with the feeling that I'm devoting a lot of my time, my youth and my mental energy to something that could quite possibly be considered irrelevant. On some level it's possible to say that research using Star Trek is fairly inconsequential, but ultimately, devoting research to it goes back to one of my favorite adages of philosophy, Socrates. The unexamined life is not worth living. If no one examines Star Trek, is it worth watching?

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      Yup...
  23. Re:ObBones by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a doctor, damnit, not a Star Trek addict!

    And only Bones could fix the brain-melt she must be suffering after 624 hours of Trek. It must have been like a dagger in the mind.

    Crap, I'm a nerd.

    --
    Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  24. PhD thesis on Star Trek- Skip the english version, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    to Truly understand the thesis, you must read it in its original Klingon.

  25. Goes to show... by Temujin_12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...how important intelligent communication is. While a topic like 'TV Culture, Myth and Star Trek', in my opinion, does not provide a revolutionary breakthrough in the study of humanities, the fact that she intelligently and effectively enumerates and supports her argument is enough to merit the award she received.

    --
    Faith is a willingness to accept something w/o complete proof and to act on it. Reason allows you to correct that faith.
  26. Maybe less useless than you think by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems like a wee bit more serious and useful work.

    Dunno.

    It's been famously stated that those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it. I'd suggest that those who do not study myths are condemned to act them out.

    Many of may have been taught abouth myth in this way: Myth is obsolete science. Zeus is just a primitive mind's way of explaining lightning without the benefit of understanding electricity. I know I was taught this way. However, if you look at a myth like Cupid and Psyche, it's obviously not the product of a primitive mind. Myths are what they are, but the do serve a very practical purpose in allowing us to relate the world to the subjective experiences and responses that make up our identity.

    We're currently fighting a war whose root causes are clearly in the economics of petrolum and regional politics. But what sustains the war (on both sides) by a mythical theme: the alien who wants to destroy our way of life. This is the alien of "War of the Worlds". This is "the Hun". This is not the alien from ET.

    One of the most popular terms in US political discourse these days is "islamo-fascism". Notice that while this term is technically inaccurate when applied to Al Qaeda's goals, it is mythologically potent, combining the alien (islam) and the threatening (fascism). This is not to say Al Qaeda isn't alien and threatening! It's just to say the term is more emotionally loaded than technically accurate. Framing your thinking in terms of the mythical theme of alien invasion means you mischaracterize the other's intentions. The other party's real intentions may be just as bad, or even worse, but it doesn't change the point: allowing one mythical theme to dominate your thinking about a situation means you act more in accord with the mythical paradigm than specific facts of the case.

    What does this have to do with Star Trek? Well, it doesn't necessarily have to have any immediate use. There is no immediate use for studying the genetics of a fruit fly, but the knowledge gained from that study is valuable indeed. It's clear to me that TOS and TNG have connected with many people, many intelligent people, in a deep way, a way which subsequent series like Voyager and Enterprise failed to, although individual episodes may fall below or rise above the others in any of the series. This in itself is no doubt mysterious to the company that produced them. Which means we are in some sense in a state of ignorance, the wealth of theories regarding this notwisthstanding. There are always plenty of theories available when you are in a state of ignorance. So serious scholarship is certainly called for. It may provide useful fundamental results, or it may not, but it is at least of interest to those whose jobs it is to provide mythologically potent entertainment.

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    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  27. Re:Is it published? by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Informative

    TFA says "Since finishing her thesis last year, the 34-year-old has had a daughter and is turning her thesis into an academic text." So it probably will be published.

  28. Re:Proof by john83 · · Score: 2, Informative
    --
    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
  29. Re:Trek? Easy. Buffy? Now You're Hardcore by shungi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And then what about Star Gate SG1? Modern Mythology? Which of course brings to mind The Matrix Movies. Indeed, one might wonder if in 300 years the new empire won't pick up those movies and make a state religion out of them...

  30. Re:On that note.. by robbkidd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tom: What's he doin?
    Droz: He's finishing his senior thesis. Pigman is trying to prove the Caine-Hackman theory. No matter what time it is, 24 hours a day, you can find a Michael Caine or Gene Hackman movie playing on TV.
    Tom: That's his thesis?
    Droz: Yes! That's the beauty of college these days, Tommy! You can major in Game Boy if you know how to bullshit.
    - PCU