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Madden 07 Earns $100 Million in First Week Sales

192939495969798999 writes "CNN reports that Madden 07 grossed over $100 million in the first week, helping to resurrect a sales slump for Electronic Arts. The article states that most people are waiting for the release of PS3 and/or Wii to make game purchases." From the article: "An industry turnaround isn't expected until next year, and EA officials predicted during its quarterly earnings report on August 1 that videogame sales for 2006 across the industry would be flat to down 5 percent."

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  1. next year by legoburner · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would not bother getting this game. Rumour has it there is a sequel coming out next year!

    1. Re:next year by Mykid8yours · · Score: 2

      I really wouldn't call it a sequel. More like an expansion pack.

    2. Re:next year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

    3. Re:next year by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would not bother getting this game

      3 of my friends got this game for the 360 and I must say that I think EA dropped the ball on this one (seriously, no pun intended!)

      the game has locked up several times on one of my friend's consoles, and he hasn't had that problem at all with any other game. Also, there are a lot of problems with collision detection and player animations; namely the celebratory animations after a touchdown. I've seen players get stuck in the air and go into a seizure, and occasionally, a player will be walking, but his foot will be twitching like crazy.

      none of it is really a complete showstopper for me, but the game feels like it was very rushed... I don't like the game either way. but apparently, you can unlock other madden games (Genesis version!), so that kinda excites me.

      on a side note... what's the deal with 360 games looking like total crap on non HD tvs? I don't mean that regular TVs look like crap compared to HDTV, but some games (dead rising is the first that comes to mind) have type that's too small to read on the shotty resolution of a regular TV which causes a serious impact to the enjoyability of the game.

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  2. I'm Curious... by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The stereotype for /.ers is that they like video games but hate Football. Does this extend to video game representations of Football?

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    1. Re:I'm Curious... by BeeBeard · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Good question. I can't speak for every other non-stereotypical ./ user, but I would imagine that playing Madden would actually create or increase interest in football. The knock on a lot of sports is that "they're more fun to play than they are to watch" (*cough* baseball *cough* *cough*), but in my opinion, actively directing the action in a sports title can sometimes have the effect of turning you into an overnight sports fan.

      I had this happen to me. After playing Madden for a few months, I knew the rosters, strengths, and weaknesses of most of the major pro teams. I knew about nickel defenses, running plays, and out patterns. I learned when it was best to do one thing strategically over another, and that information did wonders for me as an armchair quarterback.

      Basically, the game turned me into a more knowledgeable football fan, and helped to increase my enjoyment watching the sport on television ten-fold.

    2. Re:I'm Curious... by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      I've never liked football, and would rather watch paint dry than watch a game being played or (ugh) actually playing a game. It's pretty safe to say I have no love for the sport at all. Hoever, I have found a few itereations of it on consoles surprisingly catchy. Many a boring day was brightened by getting some friends together and playing stuff from "Tecmo Bowl" on NES to "NFL Blitz" on PS1 and in 1990s arcades.

      Never touched a Madden game in my life, though. It's bad enough watching his TV commercials.

    3. Re:I'm Curious... by rootofevil · · Score: 1

      Me, i just dont like sports video games in general. Awkward, not fun, and asinine repetitive commentary. Its worse than watching WSOP not muted.

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    4. Re:I'm Curious... by recordMyRides · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This happenned for me too. I hated football until a friend got me to play Madden a few times. Once I knew the names of the plays being run on tv, not to mention the players and coaches running them, the game developed a whole new dimension for me.

    5. Re:I'm Curious... by cowscows · · Score: 1

      I'm willing to bet that the majority of slashdotters do not hate football. I imagine that if you did a survey of the IT industry, the percentage of people who watch football on TV would be pretty similar to the percentage in most other job types.

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    6. Re:I'm Curious... by couch_potato · · Score: 1

      Personally, I am not a big fan of football. This could be in part due to the fans, who seems exceptionally boorish and idiotic compared to those of other sports (excepting hockey). If you judge by my in-laws, it looks like a sport that you need a sub-100 IQ and a case of domestic beer to enjoy.

      I do like playing the Madden games, and I liked the NFL2K series too -- it's a fun game to play on a console, but I don't really consider it a sport -- the 'athletes' play one game a week, a play typically lasts for 10 seconds or less with a minute or more between plays, most of the players are just pituitary disorders with pads, and NFL games are really just media events, not competitive matches.

      Cool links.

    7. Re:I'm Curious... by Cybert4 · · Score: 1

      Bit to do with jocks getting all the sex and beating up the transhumanists (/.ers) back in high school.

    8. Re:I'm Curious... by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 1
      he knock on a lot of sports is that "they're more fun to play than they are to watch" (*cough* baseball *cough* *cough*)


      Baseball is the same way. If you're involved in actively watching the sport, and you have an appreciation for the strategy involved, baseball's a great sport to watch. Hell it's even a great sport to listen to on the radio.

      My suggestion to appeal to geek in us - Try keeping score It's a lot of fun and keeps you in the game. Give it a shot.
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    9. Re:I'm Curious... by cptgrudge · · Score: 1

      You know, you can turn the commentary off. Though I don't think you can turn off the "Maddenisms", but keep the other commentary in the Madden games. Nothing infuriates me more than making a stupid defensive mistake and having Madden chime in that it was an offensive "textbook play". Fuck you Madden. Fuck you.

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    10. Re:I'm Curious... by dubiousmike · · Score: 1

      Playing fantasy sports does the same thing for giving one a broader sense of a sport. Being a Red Sox fan, I used to be fairly boston centric in my sports knowledge of players. But one finds themselves rooting for individual players rather than only for teams when the success of one's fantasy team might rely upon a Yankee player's individual performance *shudder*.

  3. All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by BlahMatt · · Score: 1

    How does EA keep making money releasing the same game year after year?

    It's a sports game (I admit that I've never been fond of sports games, just play the sport) so what are the huge changes from Madden 05 to Madden 06, and more importantly why do people keep buying the newer game? Slightly better textures? New player rosters? Would somebody please let me know, because I am at a loss.

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    1. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by Sinryc · · Score: 3, Informative

      New team stats, new rosters, better graphics... Its released RIGHT at football season... When a game isn't ON, we can play one. Also, you can get a bunch of people that DON'T play other games to play football cause, well, its football.

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    2. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by paitre · · Score: 1

      It's mostly a single, or a couple, new features each year, the removal of features that were generally panned by players/reviewers, and updated rosters, for the most part.

      Personally, I'd say $30 would be a better price point for it rather than $50/ea.

    3. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by antialias02 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having had a roommate who was into Madden pretty hardcore, I can tell you that EA makes some minor design changes from year to year and occasionally adds new functionality (but not always all that interesting). Most of it, though, is roster changes. And sports gamers eat it up.

    4. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by DeionXxX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's significantly different about all of the games based in the D&D universe? Oblivion, Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Champions of Norath, every Fantasy MMORPG, etc. Each game has the same classes, almost the same spells, weapons etc. What changes? A few textures, a name or two in the same rehashed "you must fight evil" story?

      Usually it is just new rosters and more player animations, capabilities. People buy the game to play with friends or online, once you play a game for awhile, you learn its quirks, so even if you had a new roster, the game wouldn't be as much fun. However a new game with new tweaks, will take a while to learn, so the game will be fun for another couple of months.

    5. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by DeionXxX · · Score: 1

      Hate to reply to myself, but I know that Oblivion and some of those games aren't "IN" the D&D universe, but in D&D-like fantasy universes.

    6. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by Wampus+Aurelius · · Score: 1

      You might be asking the wrong crowd that question.

    7. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by BlahMatt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I don't entireley disagree with you, I do on several points, 2 of which I feel are worth mentioning:

      A) Games in the "DnD" (as you put it) universe at the very least have different storylines. Different events will occur leading to something new, whereas in football you play football. Each game of football you play will be differemt, but I can't see the difference between madden 06, 05, etc being all that riveting (50$ worth of fun that is)

      B) Yes, classes/spells/abilities are similar between games. However, there is room for innovation and development. In Madden you can pass, punt, tackle, etc etc etc. There isn't all that much room for development. It will always be pass, punt, tackle, etc etc etc.

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    8. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference is that RPGs don't get released every single year, and they tend to be fundamentally different. Anyone who says that Oblivion and Morrowind are the same - a few minor details, never played them both. The baldur's gate series is fairly close to what you're saying, but Neverwinter Nights is quite dissimilar to baldur's gate. I have not played Champions of Norath, so I shall not comment. But I will comment that D&D Online and World of Warcraft aren't even close to the same as far as gameplay mech goes. For the most part though, the games in the series you mentioned often involve a core engine rewrite, whereas the Madden games seem to only get engine upgrades each console generation, yet they charge full price for it. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining because it obviously works for them. EA would probably be long gone by now if they didn't have their EA Sports line-up.

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    9. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by BeeBeard · · Score: 4, Informative

      And you know, many of the more savvy gamers (who don't like to pay money for stupid add-ons) update the rosters manually anyway. It's 100 percent doable on the PC, and I'm told that you can even do it on the XBOX. There is still a cottage industry in providing recent roster and graphics updates for older NBA Live XX, Madden 'XX, and NHL XX games. Google "NBA Live roster update", for example, and you'll see what I mean.

    10. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      arg, the one time I forget to use my HTML tags. . .

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    11. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Who says it's the same people buying it every year?

    12. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "I admit that I've never been fond of sports games, just play the sport"

      You are aware that the two aren't mutually exclusive right? I love playing in a wide variety of sports and I also like playing video game versions of a much smaller subset fo sports. Though is I could manage to find 22 people willing to play tackle football, I'd almost certainly pick that over Madden.

      "why do people keep buying the newer game? Slightly better textures? New player rosters?"

      Player roster updates are nice. The textures tend to improve slowly enough that 07 may look similar to 06 and 06 may look similar to 05 but 07 looks markedly improved over 05.

      There's almost always one "big change" in the yearly Madden games. In 06 to 07 they're added the ability for you to control your lead blocker then your running back on running plays. I haven't tested it myself yet but if it works it's a welcome addition. I can't count the times there's a hole opening and my bonehead blocker runs off in the wrong direction or doesn't block the right player or even just breezes past a blocking assignment forgetting all about the guy with the football.

      Last year the "big change" was QB vision. It was ok. It certainly adds a level of complexity in a good way to the game. Some smaller changes included a sane system for running QBs. In 05 you had to toggle between a run mode and a pass mode as the QB. In 06, the run functionality is bult into the passing system (and the AI generally does a good job of knowing if you're on the run).

      I think 05 was when they brought out hot routes. Hot routes let you aubible a position on the fly. That is so sweet when you scan the defense and see a hole/mismatch. I probably use a hot route once out of every three passing plays I call, especially when I get a linebacker on a receiver or a soft defense with less than 10 to go for a first down. 06 even gave me a hot route to tell my fullback to stay home and block for when the o-line is getting pounded.

      Overall, Madden does a good job of bringing enough to the table to get you to at least heavily consider the new version. Personally, I set my price based on how good it is each year. 06 was worht $28 and when it got to that point I bought it. I'll make a determination on 07 as soon as I get my hands on it.

    13. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As far as I know, the NFL's storyline is the same each year. Now, what I want to see is a football video game that *really* mimics what happens in the *real* NFL. Want to bribe a ref? Try it. Honeytrap the other team's key players? Do it. Dope your players? Hook 'em up. Tactical penalties to injur others? Assassinations? Fixing matches? At least make it an option.

      The problem is, I ... don't think that game would go over well with the Jack Thompson crowd.

    14. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by CPE1704TKS · · Score: 1

      At least at Fry's in the Bay Area, on the day it comes out, Madden is usually around $35 as opposed to $50, so that is always the best price point to get it at.

    15. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by Physician · · Score: 1

      The Tecmo series of football games on the SNES and Genesis (the best set of football games ever) has updated rosters available on the web each year for those with emulators.

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    16. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by F_Scentura · · Score: 1

      The target market hasn't been changing radically, to my knowledge.

    17. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Screw Jack Thompson, that game wouldn't go down well with the NFL itself.

      Though I think there have to be at least one or two football manager sims that allow you to take the illegal route...

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    18. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't play counterstike, just kill terrorists, or freedom fighters, depending on what random country you were spawned.

    19. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      But football games are based in the 'real' universe. What you do in the game is somewhat of a reflection of reality.

      You can sit around and talk about the game with football fans who don't even play Madden.

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    20. Re:All that different from Madden 06, 05, ... etc by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      That game has been made- it came out last year.

      It's called, 'Blitz: The League'.

      Fun game. Take a look: http://blitzleague.com/

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  4. Sentence Structure? Cell Structure? by codefrog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Resurrecting a sales slump? Sounds like Sony will be all over THAT action...

  5. Interesting by hey! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Compare this to PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHEST opening weekend box office of 135,634,554.

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    1. Re:Interesting by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good analogy. They both suck, and they both have rabid fanbases that will eat up sequel after sequel.

      OK, so I'm bitter. Sue me.

  6. Probably a bigger deal for Xbox 360 users by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    After having experienced the incomplete version of Madden 06 for the XBox 360, fans of the series were probably foaming at the mouth for a version of the game that didn't feel quite so rushed. Also, unlike Madden 06, this one is more likely to look and feel like a true next gen title.

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    1. Re:Probably a bigger deal for Xbox 360 users by casualsax3 · · Score: 1

      Actually, this one is missing features that the regular Xbox and PS2 version has this year as well :(

  7. And in one month... by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 1

    I will start seeing Madden 07 in the bargin bins... it didn't get many good reviews.. But sales are good for it because this is the ONLY NFL game you have to pick from.

    1. Re:And in one month... by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 1

      I still maintain that the NFL license shouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately the only games that lack the NFL license just tend to suck from the core gameplay elements. Blitz: the League was a good idea, unfortunately it was executed poorly. I think my fondest memories of a football game have all come from Mutant League on the genesis. Personally, I'd like to see less uberrealistic football games, and more simply fun games.
      I mean, who wants to see the sweat piling up on some fat linesman's asscrack anyway?

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    2. Re:And in one month... by Ryunosuke · · Score: 1

      the sales bin is the only place I buy madden from. i just bought 2004 actually. The fact that madden sells as well as it does says alot for the sad shape of the gaming industry.

  8. Almost unbelievable by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think people see why getting an exclusive NFL license was well worth it. Football is a sport that just seems to be invented for consoles.

    On a side note I've owned Madden almost every year since the Sega Genesis. The 360 version is the best one I've played hands-down. Gameplay is very realistic (need to focus on run to open up pass, defensive play calling most important I've ever seen), zoomed-in graphics are breathtaking, and the high-definition photos of each player are a great addition.

    I love having a real-life ESPN ticker on the bottom. The UI itself is very smooth and intuitive. The mini games are a blast when you have a few friends over but don't want a longer competition between just 2 people.

    1. Re:Almost unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seriously...is it really breathtaking? It's a fricken video game!

  9. I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand what is so popular about these Madden games. It seems that they just get rehashed every year with a few roster changes and people are all over them like there's something significantly new about them.

    1. Re:I don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can say pretty much the same thing about any mainstream genre. How much of a difference is there between versions of Splinter Cell, Grand Theft Auto or any First Person Shooter made in the past 5 years? You may say that the story or gameplay dynamics change but that only matters if you care about the story or gameplay mechanics.

      You and I may not understand the appeal, but to several people I know adding a feature that makes a player play better/worse on rainy days to more closely match the players real world performance is a huge deal; and (at the same time) to many people the difference between Halo and Battlefield 2 isn't noticable.

  10. I wish that people would stop encouraging this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you keep buying crappy recycled games, the industry will keep making them.

    1. Re:I wish that people would stop encouraging this by GundamFan · · Score: 1

      "You kids, stop having fun, think of the big picture"

      If people like these games and want to buy them then that is what EA is going to make.

      It's not that the consumer has no choices (well they don't now... other than not playing a football game)... it's that the consumer has choosen to buy this game on a yearly basis so that is what EA is going to make. If it had no redeaming quality it would not sell.

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  11. You might say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's doing Madden-ingly well.

  12. Yey... by Chaffar · · Score: 1

    Lame cookie-cutter game makes record profit, thanks to its identical gameplay to its 235 previous outings, making sure that the "established fanbase" would not get confused. Sports-game licences. They're gold mines I tell you. All you need is a team of graphic artists that'll make sure that the hideously pixellated polygon-version of players look somewhat like the real guys. I'm assuming that they found out how to make the controls/gameplay balanced after all these years.

  13. To be fair by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 1

    A movie ticket's price should not really exceed 10$, while Madden '07 retails at 59.99$. It's apples and oranges. For the sales to be comparable Madden would have to score 678,172,770$ in sales - a highly unlikely conjecture.

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    1. Re:To be fair by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 1

      I think that depends what the companies care more about. Do they care more about how many people see thier product or how much money they make from it? If its the later, then its a fairly relevant comparison.

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    2. Re:To be fair by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      When my friends and I go to a movie, we each pay for a ticket.

      When I have friends over to play games- we all play the same copy of the game.

      If I had to pay per person for my copy of Halo, I would have paid for at least 10 players by now. Many of whom have never played Halo anywhere else.

      Also, when I am done watching a movie in the theatre, I can't sell my ticket to someone else. I can do that with a game.

      So it isn't an apples to apples comparison, but there are a lot of other factors to look at.

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  14. Easy to break records when your the only one by grapeape · · Score: 1

    Since EA locked up the NFL license with a 5 year exclusivity contract they have eliminated any competition. Its not hard to break sales records when the sheep only have one choice. Strategically you have to admit it was a good move for EA after getting their asses handed to them last year by Sega and Take Two, eliminate the comptetion then you dont have worry if your product is up to par or not. I fully expect the next five years to be similar to the Sega Genesis years of Madden same damn game different stats and price.

    What I really hope happens is that Midway, Sega, Take Two and Nintendo step up and show that gameplay trumps licenses. Midway is already starting with Blitz: The League coming out this fall, a few years ago they were told to tone the violence and t&a down by the NFL. Now that they license is gone, I fully expect Blitz to be completely over the top and probably alot of fun. Something like Mutant League Football would be great and no license would be needed.

    1. Re:Easy to break records when your the only one by joshetc · · Score: 1

      Madden was new once, and didn't have a liscense. Then it got popular. THEN it got a NFL liscense.

      Whats to stop all these other companies from doing the same thing? Anyone remember controlling #4 on Green Bay back in the late 90s?

    2. Re:Easy to break records when your the only one by grapeape · · Score: 1

      The difference is money, EA paid over $300 million to eliminate competition. Back in the early days there wasnt budget for licensing and companies were lucky to get an endorsement much less a contract with the entire league, also player association and league right were completely separate making any licensing deals awkward.

      To be fair Take Two did quietly stick it to EA and locked up 3rd party rights to Major League Baseball, but they did it a much more generous way, by getting only 3rd party exclusivity the only major player affected is going to be MVP baseball from EA. High Heat from Microsoft and MLB from Sony are not affected.

  15. Can someone tell me a difference between versions by neo · · Score: 1

    I'm mean really...why are people buying this every year? Just new players I assume. Talk about a ripe market for opensource gaming.

  16. It's not because 07 was that great... by mmalove · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's because '06 blew. Every magazine I read indicated that if you had 05, not to bother with 06. So now you've got all your rabid foaming at the mouth by every year's game crowd, combined with the more conservative skip a year or two crowd, all lined up to buy the game.

    08 projection? Don't even bother making the game. Sell a box with last year's game in it again, then make waves in 09. That's what six figure salaries suits call "a three-year-plan".

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  17. PS3 in trouble? by neg+ebx · · Score: 1

    A couple of people almost touched on this but I'm curious if anyone else thinks this means the PS3 is in trouble. Obviously the have sold more copies than there are XBox 360s (if my numbers are correct). How many of you would buy Madden 07 (assuming you would buy it all) for you PS2 only to buy a PS3 in a few months?

  18. How about production costs though? by DG · · Score: 1

    Those box office numbers (and, I assume, the Madden sales numbers) are revenue, not profit.

    What was the cost of production of Madden '07?

    What was the cost to make PotC-DMC?

    Those would be interesting numbers to see.

    DG

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  19. Piracy by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 3, Funny

    One industry insider reports they would've "earned eleventy billion dollars if it hadn't been for widespread video game piracy and used game sales."

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    1. Re:Piracy by PSXer · · Score: 1

      That's not even a real number

  20. Best football game ever was... by Glacial+Wanderer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My favorite football game of all time was Techno Bowl for the NES. I think the reason I liked it was because it was less like football than any other football game I ever played. In single player mode the AI was a little lacking (ok a lot lacking), but it was a great two player game. In these modern football games I seem to do best when I just let the AI play the game for me because it's better than I am...

    1. Re:Best football game ever was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was way ahead of its time. Glowsticks and ectasy, who knew! Oh, you mean TECMO Bowl :D

    2. Re:Best football game ever was... by lpangelrob · · Score: 1

      Quarterback drops back... back... back... back... back... back... goal line... throws... touchdown!!!

      I myself was a fan of the 100-yard pass completion on a 1st and 10 at the goal line. :-)

    3. Re:Best football game ever was... by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      I need to go back and play that one again. There's also Tecmo Super Bowl for the Genesis, and I don't remember if it was better. I do remember that it had more plays, though.

    4. Re:Best football game ever was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tecmo, who made Tecmo bowl (and currently do stuff like Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden), recently released a statement that they're going to be "agressively supporting" the Virtual Console classic ROM service on the Nintendo Wii (such a bad name). So it seems pretty likely that Tecmo Bowl will be available again!

      Well, you know, without just downloading the ROM illegally for free...

    5. Re:Best football game ever was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean ECSTASY. Though that eck tay zee is pretty good too :D

  21. Re:Can someone tell me a difference between versio by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    On a similar note, I've been saying for years (mostly by talking to myself) that the Superbowl should be converted into a pay-per-view only event and that the NFL should charge $50 to watch it. People will bitch and moan about it at first, but football fans appear to be sheepish enough that they'll bend over in the end to watch it no matter what. Naturally, Superbowl parties will become more popular as individuals group together to spread the cost. I think the NFL could even throw in a few commercials and still get away with it.

  22. Decline of Game Quality... by b1ad3runn3r · · Score: 1

    This is why. Doing nothing nets profit. Go out on a limb and try something new and you might fail. But oh boy oh boy, rehash last year and you're set.

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    "Reality continues to ruin my life" - Calvin and Hobbes
  23. 2007 is better than 2006 so far by CPE1704TKS · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got Madden 2k6 and hated the QB vision. It complicated an already complicated game, and was totally unnecessary. What they need to do is make other parts of the game more realistic, like the timing aspect of throwing balls, not add some unnecessary complexity with which direction the QB is looking. For example, you can basically throw to a player at any point in his route and he will grab for it, whereas in real football that is impossible. The other thing that is very annoying is that defensive backs covering wide receivers can go and block throws even with their backs to the ball. In 2007, QB vision is now an option to increase the accuracy. Great idea, it decreases complexity. It also adds more features to make the running game more unique. I would say 2k7 is a step above, but I'm going to be playing it in earnest this Labor day weekend to see how it really cuts the mustard.

    1. Re:2007 is better than 2006 so far by ScottAuth · · Score: 1

      QB Vision was an option in 2006's version, it was just on by default. You could however turn it off.

  24. I know... we'll call it by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    Grand Theft Football?

    McMahon's WWE Touchdown?

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  25. Madden Schmadden by Atomic+Punk · · Score: 1

    I miss the old atari football game circa 1978 at the local pizza joint.
    http://www.thelogbook.com/phosphor/1970s/f.htm

  26. Re:Can someone tell me a difference between versio by neo · · Score: 1

    How is that a similar note, exactly?

  27. Re:Can someone tell me a difference between versio by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    Well, the parent post said: "I'm mean really...why are people buying this every year?"

    So, I figured if they're buying Madden every year, they'd buy a Superbowl PPV package every year, which is something I've been saying for years (mostly by talking to myself).

  28. Football is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ronaldo! Zidane! Beckham! Pelé! Stoichkov! Zico! Maradona! ...oh wait, you mean the WRONG kind of football.

  29. Send in the TROLL!!! by DubiousCustomer · · Score: 1

    Because there was only ever one good football game. Woot.

  30. I call bullshit on waiting. by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People don't wait till the next system to play games right now. They buy the next system to play the next games. EA's slump: A product of a stale market of games. I've never heard of anyone saying "This game sounds fun, but I'd rather not play any games for a year and wait till the PS3 comes out to play games".

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  31. Gods and jocks by Cybert4 · · Score: 1

    Look, the stereotype of /. is that we are transhumanists. Nothing else matters.

  32. Clueless by Cybert4 · · Score: 1

    What is this an antislash plant?

  33. Not possible by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    NFL licensing is prohibitively expensive. No licensing, no NFL player models, and no real time ESPN/NFL stats.

    At best you're stuck with "alternate football league" games in open source.

    Other than that, yes, you're right, football is never going to evolve, it's ripe for becoming an open source game market.

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    1. Re:Not possible by neo · · Score: 1

      Oh, it's possible... I just leave the logo's, name fields, and player stats open for configuration files that I open in XML format for anyone to edit. Voila... any league you want you can make.

  34. Best Buy offer by GrayCalx · · Score: 1

    Best Buy in my area was offering a deal where if you purchased a Samsung TV + Xbox 360 + controller + Madden 07 you got $300 off. Since I was in the market for 3 out of the 4, I went ahead and bought them all, then turned around and traded Madden on CraigsList.

    Thats it. Just wondering if some deals/specials like this drove the sales up slighty.

  35. No Co-op mode! by freebfrost · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was willing to give the 360 version a chance, and then found out that the game doesn't support co-op game play, so I can't sit at home and play this with my friends.

    Not only is that functionality not in the 360 version (nor is Owner mode, audibles, and other features), but that co-op play was *removed* from the Xbox and PS2 versions as well. So, for my friend who likes to sit down and play on the same team with his son - too bad! I only play Madden with my friends on the same team - too bad for me!

    Basically EA has said this game is no longer for people who play together. Its for those who play alone or who just want to use Xbox Live to trash-talk other players in an online game...

    Pathetic.

  36. Hmm...vanilla or...vanilla? by Pearson · · Score: 1

    No news story I've seen about this has mentioned that EA has an exclusive license to make NFL video games. I think that has a huge bearing on their numbers. If you want the latest rosters and stats, then you can choose from a wide variety of, um...Madden. That's it.

    The fact is, Sega was making a better product and undercutting them on cost and EA saw the writing on the wall. I think the NFL did a terrible disservice to the fans by selling out to EA.

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  37. Not worth it by Arkaein · · Score: 1

    I've been a big fan of the Madden series for as long as it's been on the current gen systems. Madden 2002 was the first game I bought for Gamecube, even before I had the console. I only started getting the game every year because my roommate bought 2003 (mainly for updated rosters) and I found that they had introduced the best feature every: the ability to design custom formations and plays. I even started a website based around this specific feature. Say what you want about geeks and sports, custom playbooks offer more hacakbility than just about any RPG video game you'll find.

    Sadly, this iteration blows hard. Tomorrow I'll be taking my copy back for a refund after experiencing lockups with the both the original disc I bought and a replacement. The lockups have only occurred for me when using custom playbooks, but without these the game is worthless to me.

    I also think that EA has basically given up on improving core gameplay on current gen, and have gone into a see saw mode where they twiddle settings each year but don't really improve anything. In 2002 and 2003 passing was easy and big were made to the outside. In 2004 (thought by many to be the best version produced on current gen, and in my opinion the most balanced version overall) inside running was improved. 2005 and 2006 strengthened defense to the point that running became difficult and defensive backs super human at times. Now in 2007 it's back to big outside runs and deep passes, and a more arcade-like feel than the series has had since 2003.

    Ironically, the visibility of my website led to me writing part of a Madden 2007 strategy guide for 1up.com that will be posted in a few days (I agreed to do this well before playing the game and experiencing the bugs, especially on Gamecube as I used a preview of the PC version for research). I think what I wrote is good, and applies pretty well to almost any version of Madden, but I in good conscience I would not have written it if I had known that the game would turn out like this.