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Hacker-Built PC Scans 300 Wifi Networks At Once

An anonymous reader writes to mention an Engadget post on an incredibly powerful wifi scanner. The 'Janus Project', as it is called, can sniff 300 networks simultaneously. It stores and encrypts the data as it receives it, for later use. From the article: "In addition, the Janus Project has an instant off switch, which requires a USB key that has a 2000-bit passkey and a separate password to regain access. What's under the hood? Williams packed an Ubuntu Linux machine running on a 1.5GHz VIA C7 processor with an Acer 17-inch screen into that snazzy little rugged yellow box. Oh, and the closed case is waterproof too, in case you need to transport Janus Project on a whitewater raft to your next hacking hotspot. We don't doubt someone will." The post leads to a tgdaily article, which offers more details.

121 comments

  1. Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bush would be proud.

    1. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Informative

      The poster isn't wrong, from the thg article

      After the Instant Off switch is hit, a USB key with a 2000-bit passkey and a manually entered password are needed to access the computer. Williams said that even if someone managed to grab the USB key, they would still have to "torture or bribe me" to get the password.

      In the UK, the RIP act allows you to be thrown in jail for 3 years for not supplying the encryption keys, in America I can quite easily picture this guy wearing his leather hat and some fetching orange clothing.

      After all, his box does look like the computers the criminal ring leaders use in most movies.

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    2. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by Sillygates · · Score: 1

      I could imagine that too.....when did withholding information (passwords, etc) become illegal? wasn't there some law aginst forcing someone into self incrimination in the US?...I kinda remember something like that...no couldn't be...

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    3. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or get a job offer from the NSA.......

    4. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by hazem · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you are not under arrest, and if they are simply investigating, you don't have as many protections and you can be charged with interfering with a federal investigation. There's some kind of legal "trilemna" that is considered unethical - but is often used by the government to get around the "self-incrimination" issue:

      Your three choices are:
      1) answer the questions/comply with information requests - which ends up incriminating you
      2) refuse to answer the questions - now you can be charged with interfering with the investigation
      3) lie - and now you're lying to a federal investigator, which is also a crime

      Sure, the 5th ammendment says you're not supposed to be compelled to testify against yourself - but you have to be arrested before that protection really comes into play.

      Oh, I know, if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about... because the government never makes mistakes, never does things out of malice, and never has an agenda other than liberty and justice for all.

    5. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      It's much better to simply keep a second key in a secure location and introduce the key you have in your posession when you're caught to the business end of your boot. It's not destroying evidence, just the means to get to the evidence.

      Of course, be ready to face the full force of the authorities' revenge for daring to stand up to them when they do something wrong.

    6. Re:Just another way to get thrown into Gitmo. by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      Law-enforcement isn't your only adversary. It's just a good one to model because it's an adversary with lots of resources at its disposal, and not necessarily completely trustworthy.

      No information technology is going to give you significant protection from the courts except in very limited circumstances.

  2. Just about time by grammar+fascist · · Score: 1

    Time to enable encryption on your wireless network. It's not foolproof, but it'll make you a smaller target.

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    1. Re:Just about time by DeadboltX · · Score: 1

      Encrypted networks ARE the target when it comes to wireless "hacking"

    2. Re:Just about time by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 1

      I hate to be needlessly cruel, but did you even read the fing summary? It's about SCANNING, not necessarily hacking; if you have 250 users worth of unencrypted data, and 50 users with strong encryption, you'll probably find that the encrypted ones aren't worth your time.

      I don't think that this machine can scan, decrypt, and record 300 WiFi Networks in real-time.

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    3. Re:Just about time by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Did you even read the article?
      In addition to scanning for wireless traffic, Williams says the computer can break most WEP keys very quickly by focusing all eight wireless cards on the access point. Using a combination of common utilities like airreplay, airdump and aircrack, Willams said, "When I use all 8 radios to focus in on a single access point, [the WEP key] lasts less than five minutes." However, he added that some retail wireless access points will "just die" after being hit with so much traffic.
      ...
      Williams is improving the Janus computer to crack wireless networks even faster. He is optimizing software routines to use the C7 chip to crack WPA and WPA2 protected networks without the use of Rainbow tables. He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.

      No, it can't decrypt traffic from 300 networks at once, but it can certainly crack one that's encrypted with some of the most common algorithms rather quickly. It's more than just a recording device. Although, if it really can crack networks that quickly, then concievably you could crack all the WEP-enabled networks in range, and then start logging all the traffic on all the networks that you could hear, encrypted and not, for later analysis.
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    4. Re:Just about time by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 2, Informative
      It is pretty good at cracking WEP

      In addition to scanning for wireless traffic, Williams says the computer can break most WEP keys very quickly by focusing all eight wireless cards on the access point. Using a combination of common utilities like airreplay, airdump and aircrack, Willams said, "When I use all 8 radios to focus in on a single access point, [the WEP key] lasts less than five minutes." However, he added that some retail wireless access points will "just die" after being hit with so much traffic.
    5. Re:Just about time by Leto-II · · Score: 1

      He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.

      Oh come on... That just makes him sound like a nutcase.

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    6. Re:Just about time by Leto-II · · Score: 1

      And that's what happens when you forget to add a slash and use the preview button. :(

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    7. Re:Just about time by gklinger · · Score: 1

      Too true. Secure wireless is an oxymoron. If it's wireless, it's insecure depending only upon on how determined the snooper is so if your data is sensitive, don't broadcast it. The only way to fully guarantee the integrity of your wireless network is to disconnect your WAP and bury it in the backyard.

    8. Re:Just about time by deragon · · Score: 1

      What if you use a strong VPN between your wireless computer and your access-point? Granted, there is no proof that encryption cannot be cracked, but up to this day, strong encryption is considered pretty secured.

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    9. Re:Just about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

      Incorporate 802.1x with token based two factor authentication using EAP with TKIP, MIC and rotating broadcast keys followed by AES256/SHA1 IPSec VPN connection utilising DH Group5 PFS (rekeying on short timeframes) and with token based two factor authentication to obtain network access and you're on your way to a secure wireless network.

      Easy.

    10. Re:Just about time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is a mis-quote.

    11. Re:Just about time by epee1221 · · Score: 1
      He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.
      "Breaking SHA-1," as in a preimage attack? Has anyone even managed to do this "quickly"?
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    12. Re:Just about time by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      Oh, nifty! I guess it replays recorded (encrypted) frames, hoping to capture the replies (even if they're just NAKs) in order to use them to get the IVs needed to crack the WEP key.

      Yet another reason why encryption without authentication (or doing something with messages that have failed authentication besides dropping them to the floor) is a bad idea.

  3. Already a common feature by Kagura · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In addition, the Janus Project has an instant off switch, which requires a USB key that has a 2000-bit passkey and a separate password to regain access.

    I use a hammer, you use an instant-off switch that you'll never be able to turn back on. At the end of the day, at least one of us will have released some pent-up frustration and anger. :)

    1. Re:Already a common feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PFFT, that takes too much effort. Just douse the thing in a 2 litiers of cocacola, a couple bottles of BBQ sauce, and then you piss on it. After that, you seal it up forever with an excessive amount of ducttape. The guy who gets it will wonder what kind of wierd alien device he's found...only to realize it's covered in something far more fierce than unkle heshie's after-thanksgiving serenade.

    2. Re:Already a common feature by legoburner · · Score: 2, Funny

      Must feel great when he has the USB key in his shirt pocket, leans over a railing on top of a cliff or tall building and then the USB key leaps for freedom. 'Nobody turn the computer off... PLEASE!!'

    3. Re:Already a common feature by Raelus · · Score: 1

      What about thermite? (I think that's the right episode.)

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  4. Re:Terrorists by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    Just refer them to this post.

    When they trace the VoIP calls back to your network, just tell the cops; "Um, yeah, I saw those guys leave, just as I as pulling up. They were using my secured network without my permission, then they entered my secure house and took my snacks from my child-proof cabinet. Then drove off in my locked car, carrying my secured weapons safe..."

    Just add network access to the list of "secured" items that can be taken.

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  5. This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by w9ofa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The one watt amplifiers mentioned in the article almost guarantees that this device is operating outside the FCC part 15 rules.

    I know everyone on /. hates the FCC, but consider how many nearby wireless networks might be effectively DoS'ed while he is trying
    to hack some schmuck's WEP key.

    1. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you're using this device, you most likely don't care about Part 15.

      -b

    2. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Maybe he's running it as part 95?

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    3. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the contrary, the FCC regulating my microwave not to interfere with my WiFi or my wireless phone I like.

      The FCC regulating whether or not i can say FUCK on the radio, I don't.

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    4. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean part 97 (part 95 is for CB/FRS, and they say no power amps. 97 is amateur radio)
      Somehow I doubt it. Only channels 1-6 have everything within the amateur band at 2.4GHz,(channel 7 bumps up to 2.453GHz or something, and the amateur band there ends at 2.450 GHz) and you can't be running encryption if it is being used for amateur radio use. (Very few expections).

      Now if everything used in it were manufacture certified to be part 15 (so no amp probably, manufacture certified antennas) they might be able to have it pass part 15.

    5. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > guarantees that this device is operating outside the FCC part 15 rules

      Since the ISM band is allowed 1 Watt and it uses an omnidirectional antenna, it is obviously legal. Why would you lie and claim it isn't? What is your agenda? Are you pushing a competing product? Are you making money off of your lies? Trying to discredit an inventor just so you can make more money? Paid shills like you are sickening. Idiots like you are ruining Slashdot with your spam.

    6. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe since part 15 rules say that if the amp and antenna used in the system are not approved by the manufacturer it isn't part 15 compilant? (They can always get it certified, otherwise it is illegal)
      (using an unoffical antenna with out getting the system certified is illegal, part 15.204. The amp can only be used with the system as a whole is certified by the FCC) (Nice pdf from the FCC that mentions the whole system bit, quoting the relevant parts (answering some myths about part 15 and how it applies to WiFi)

    7. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Sillygates · · Score: 1

      yeah? well?.....I hope that your microwave can accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.

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    8. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course on /., this is "insightful". To me, it's just juvenile egoism shining brightly.

      "I like the way the rules help me in one way, I don't like the way the rules constrain me in another way."

      At some point, the organism understands that society - the collective "we" that live together - cannot exist without compromise, and the essence of compromise is empathy.

      Perhaps you might consider that some of us would prefer that you pollute your own yard, not the collective commons that is the public airwaves.

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    9. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by w9ofa · · Score: 1

      The FCC rules actually regulate by field strength, which is why my earlier post says "almost guarantee". It is possible that he is attenuating the signal such that the field strength meets limitations, but since he is most likely using antennas with gain, it is highly likely his system is transmitting at a field strength higher than 500 microvolts/meter at 3 meters from maximum gain.

    10. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by espo812 · · Score: 1
      To me, it's just juvenile egoism shining brightly.
      Maybe his particular statement, but I will come to his defense.
      "I like the way the rules help me in one way, I don't like the way the rules constrain me in another way."
      Well in one instance the rules are forcing devices to not interfere with eachother, a fairly useful form of government regulation. In the other case the regulation puts a constraint on the First Amendment ("Congress shall make now law [...] abridging the freedom of speech"), an illegal form of government regulation. The Constitution prohibits the Congress from authorizing the FCC to regulate speech. I would tend to think the Constitution prohibits the Congress from creating the FCC in the first place, but that's an argument for another day.
      Perhaps you might consider that some of us would prefer that you pollute your own yard, not the collective commons that is the public airwaves.
      You're free to change the channel. Society does not benefit from the violation of the First Amendment.
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    11. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      The FCC as a technical regulatory body is great. Those are the set of rules I agree with. However, the decency on the airwaves set of rules, I don't.

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    12. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in other words: you're a sad old fuck who has watched too much tv? You know it's a pretty lame excuse for a detail-controlling government.

      "Perhaps you might consider that some of us would prefer that you pollute your own yard, not the collective commons that is the public airwaves." Yeah, but you still want to drive a car don't you? :)

      so long sucker!

    13. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      The one watt amplifiers mentioned in the article almost guarantees that this device is operating outside the FCC part 15 rules.

      False.

      802.11 is considered to be direct sequence spread-spectrum. According to 47 CFR 15.247(b)(3), the limit is 1W for this purpose.

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    14. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by w9ofa · · Score: 1

      I'm not denying that 1 Watt amplifiers are totally leagal, but doesn't that imply that the antenna is going to be low-gain in order to meet the field strength limits?

    15. Re:This device is against FCC Part 15 rules by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      I'm not denying that 1 Watt amplifiers are totally leagal, but doesn't that imply that the antenna is going to be low-gain in order to meet the field strength limits?

      As a DSSS system, 802.11 is regulated on a power/gain rather than field strength basis. You can have up to a 6dB antenna gain before you have to start peeling back you transmitter power to comply.

      From there, if you have a point-to-multipoint system (which is what this box would be), you need to drop back dB-for-dB for every dB over 6. For example, with a 9dB antenna, you need to trim back transmitter power by 3dB, bringing you down to 500mW.

      As long as the antenna is under 6dBi gain, he is legal.

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  6. Sell? by SocialEngineer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sorry, but I don't see much in the way of commercial application for this thing - we know standard wireless networking encryption isn't secure. We know it can be cracked, and it can be cracked with just 2 cheap laptops to capture the data. There isn't much more of a need for proof-of-concept anymore.

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    1. Re:Sell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you have to use 2 laptops?

      amateur.

    2. Re:Sell? by jpardey · · Score: 1

      Ever heard of industrial espionage? Park your car in front of your client's specified target, and let the packets flow. Also good for stock traders. Amateurs would be interested. The military probably already has similar cheaper devices.

      And I would pay for his hat.

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    3. Re:Sell? by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      I believe they make no such claim as being the first of its kind with this capability; think of it more as need to waterproof-said-concept.

      *ducks

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    4. Re:Sell? by walt-sjc · · Score: 1

      The military probably already has similar cheaper devices

      Oh, not so sure about the military, but you know the FBI / NSA / CIA have them - BUT I bet they are not cheaper. EVERYTHING the government does costs more. After all, it's not like they guys buying shit are using their own money now... Network General has been making network sniffers for years, but their $20K boxes really don't do much more than a cheap laptop running ethereal(wireshark) and other misc open source tools.

    5. Re:Sell? by SocialEngineer · · Score: 1

      Technically, no, but it is much more efficient (in my experience) to use two.

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  7. WEP is going to be ... by b1ufox · · Score: 1
    ..history sooner or later.

    Why? Because of WEP 's broadcasting nature smart people make things like Janus Project and capture your data and may break WEP security.

    This is known to cyptanalysts long before so it is superseeded by WPA(Wi-Fi Protected Access) and WPA2 standards.

    But yes WEP is stil used to avoid casual snooping :).

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  8. Smaller Target? by mashtb4 · · Score: 0
    Isn't the object of wireless hacking to find your way into a 'secured' wireless network. That would make you a bigger target than an open network. With an open network, the least they could do is read ALL of your data.
    <sarcasm />
    I still believe you should encrypt it, but at least use something other than the standard WEP encryption. Even WPA or WPA2 would be a better solution than using standard WEP encryption.
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  9. What kind of hammer? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Funny
    There are so many hammers to choose from!

    (OMG - and you thought Geek sites were bad - "hammernet". Sheesh!)

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  10. :o\ by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From his Riviera hotel room and using a 1W amplified antenna, Williams said his Janus computer was able to capture data from 300 access points simultaneously. He said over 2000 access points were scanned and 3.5 GB of traffic was captured during the entire convention.
    ...
    Williams told us that he has spent a few thousand dollars building the Janus computer and hopes to make his money back by selling commercial versions to big companies and government organizations. "Maybe one day I could get the military to be a customer," said Williams.
    Forget the military, how about corporate espionage?

    I imagine that'd be a bit more productive.
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    1. Re::o\ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing he made it look so inconspicuous. Nobody will suspect a thing when I'm walking around Intel headquarters with my cleverly camouflaged bright yellow suitcase.

  11. Re:Terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but with a secured network it is too difficult to prove.

    There is no such thing as a "secured" network, that concept should not be hard to prove at all.

    "Your honor, we asked Linksys and Microsoft to come to this court or provide certified letters that the wireless system my client has and the wireless card running on his MS Windows XP machine is and always has been 100% secure, they refused."

  12. I wish them good luck! by Browzer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Williams is improving the Janus computer to crack wireless networks even faster. He is optimizing software routines to use the C7 chip to crack WPA and WPA2 protected networks without the use of Rainbow tables. He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.


    1. Re:I wish them good luck! by keeboo · · Score: 2, Funny

      He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.

      move.l <key>,d0

      That was easy.
      I'm not sure it's possible in x86 processors though.

    2. Re:I wish them good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THAT WAS A MIS-QUOTE!!!

      ~Kyle

    3. Re:I wish them good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When pigs fly!

      Or maybe when pigs are proved to equal non-deterministic pigs...

    4. Re:I wish them good luck! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, if you read the documentation for the VIA Padlock hardware encryption/decryption engine, you would realise that they talk about realtime encryption/decryption, its not a software operation, its a set of on-die commands.

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    5. Re:I wish them good luck! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1
      He is also working on breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle.

      RISC is so passe nowadays.
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  13. So use VPNs. by Randseed · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You'd think by now that people would go ahead and use WEP or WPA, but tunnel traffic over a VPN even to internal sites. That's what I do. While someone may be able to crack my WEP or WPA keys, all that gets them is the ability to access the VPN port on the router. Everything else, including traffic to internal machines, is dropped unless it comes from the VPN. And since the VPN address is on a seperate subnet, the WAP won't route the traffic if you force your IP address to be open, but appear as the VPN IP address.

    Obvoiusly not foolproof. I need to get all the machines to drop the traffic unless it's routed through the router. In other words, it doesn't matter where it comes from, but the machines will only listen to traffic coming in off the VPN subnet, and then only listen to that if it's being routed by the internal router. That keeps someone from being cute somehow and confusing the network by plugging something in with an IP address that's on the VPN subnet; since it wouldn't come via the internal router (VPN server), the machines would go "Uh, WTF?"

    1. Re:So use VPNs. by canuck57 · · Score: 1

      You'd think by now that people would go ahead and use WEP or WPA, but tunnel traffic over a VPN even to internal sites. That's what I do. While someone may be able to crack my WEP or WPA keys, all that gets them is the ability to access the VPN port on the router.

      That is because you truly take wireless security seriously where as 97% of the people do not. This is the ONLY proven way to secure wireless short of unpluging it. In such cases like this, all a hacker could do is DoS you, which is minor.

    2. Re:So use VPNs. by walt-sjc · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't bother with wep at all. My AP is wide open, and connects to a dedicated interface on my gateway server. Similar to your setup, the only ports open on that interface are for VPN - other than that it's stealth. No point in the additional encryption that just slows things down without proividing any real security.

    3. Re:So use VPNs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You'd think by now that people would go ahead and use WEP or WPA, but tunnel traffic over a VPN even to internal sites.


      Oh for crying out loud. I work at a top tier research university and all but a few of our profs either can't be bothered to even set a WEP key on their home WAP or are too ignorant to do so. I'd hate to see the numbers with Joe and Jane Sixpack.
    4. Re:So use VPNs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell me how. I would love to do this. Is there a tutorial somewhere for it?

      Would this be easier with Hamachi (if you ignore its own privacy issues)?

    5. Re:So use VPNs. by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1
      This is the ONLY proven way to secure wireless short of unpluging it.

      Silly me! I thought one-time pads were the only proven way to secure a wireless network. :P

  14. Some corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The "2000 bit passkey" is really the disk encryption keys for loop-aes. See http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README . They are longer than 2000 bits.

    The disk encryption keys are stored on USB and decrypted via passphrase (key encryption key) using a custom init process that mounts the encrypted loop-aes disk(s) and does the pivot_root / exec init into the target. This gives you full disk encryption booting from a trusted read-only kernel+initrd iso image. (or hdd bootloader)

    The "instant off" is the key zeroisation mechanism where loop-aes keys (rotated in memory) are flushed and the disks are now inaccesible. A reboot and passphrase auth with USB key device present is then required to get back to a working state.

    The use of 8 radios means most of them are in monitor mode attached to different antennas. There are two amplified cards (1W teletronics in line) which can be used for injection / active attacks, but 2 transmitting radios is about the limit practically speaking due to 802.11MAC / CSCA.

    The WPA/WPA2 cracking references WPA-PSK dictionary attacks / cowpatty speedup via the Padlock hash engine SHA1 instruction. This gives you about a 10-20x increase in dictionary attack throughput but is still slow compared to most attacks. Many other kernel functions (loop-aes, IPsec, entropy in /dev/random) and user space applications (openssl, openvpn) are also tweaked to utilize the padlock core described here: http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/padlock/hardw are.jsp . Montgomery multiplication offload is still in the works...

    [The "breaking SHA1 and RSA encryption in a single processor instruction cycle" line appears to confuse the implementation of these primitives (SHA1/MontMult) in a single instruction. These are not cracked by a single instruction.]

    The comment about government sales is likely due to the fact that this system is well over FCC EIRP limits, thus restricting commercial sales to military or emergency services.

    Additional images here:
    http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/coderman42 /?action=view&current=janusbox.jpg&refPage=&imgAnc h=imgAnch3
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    1. Re:Some corrections by tritox · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward AKA Kyle Williams

    2. Re:Some corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The comment about government sales is likely due to the fact that this system is well over FCC EIRP limits, thus restricting commercial sales to military or emergency services.

      Do we have to worry about the device falling into the wrong hands? Or tentacles, for that matter.

    3. Re:Some corrections by PureFiction · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward AKA Kyle Williams

      guess again... :)

    4. Re:Some corrections by PureFiction · · Score: 1

      Do we have to worry about the device falling into the wrong hands?

      Accidental sterilization due to prolonged RF absorbtion is a serious problem. Also, a bottle of excedrin helps keep the microwave headaches at bay...

      [but seriously, use a properly keyed VPN over wireless and you're in good shape against any attacker.]

  15. R.I.P. WEP 1999-2006 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nail. Coffin.

  16. Article Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Basically: Don't use "pencil" as WEP password.

    1. Re:Article Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Basically: Don't use "pencil" as WEP password.

      I use "bruceschneier" as my WEP password and therefore, is uncrackable.

  17. How...? by Gemini_25_RB · · Score: 1

    Yea, I couldn't even grasp what it truly meant here. Is Williams looking for an algorithm to break SHA1 and RSA? Did he prove P = NP yet?

    1. Re:How...? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 1

      If we account for reporter incompetence, it seems he is claiming that he is looking for a way to determine that the hash doesn't match, in constant time. Probably working under some assumptions about the length, etc.

      But considering how mangled that sentence is, theoretically, I'd wait for a claim directly from the source before claiming crackpot.

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  18. Missed a critical feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A nice big red panic button that dials a good lawyer if you get caught.

  19. I already did this by shawn443 · · Score: 1

    first I code named it Preparation H. V2 is called the Allen Parson's Project.

  20. Snazzy little yellow box? by Ec|ipse · · Score: 2, Informative

    FYI, it's a Pelican box, I have several that I use for SCUBA diving.

    1. Re:Snazzy little yellow box? by kop · · Score: 1

      Well I wish you lots of succes traveling with your equipment now.
      You must be some kind of terrorist with all these snazzy little yellow boxes.

  21. Cool...but huh? by bettse · · Score: 0

    2000-bit passkey? I'm not a cryptographer, but aren't these usually in powers of 2?

    300 networks simultaneously? The picture appears to be Kismet and that uses channel hopping, so unless he's got 300 wireless cards packed into that (not that it couldn't be done), I'm skeptical

    encrypting the captured data? unless he fears the device being captured, I think that's unnecessary

    ~Eric Betts

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    1. Re:Cool...but huh? by PureFiction · · Score: 1

      See the clarification post. The passphrase is used to decrypt disk keys for loop-aes which contain more than 2000 bits of entropy. (23400 bits / 2925 bytes across 65 key lines to be precise. see the loop-aes readme for more detail)

  22. Also in the next version by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, he has also announced that the next version of the Janus project will be powered by the Easter Bunny running on a very small, internally mounted gerbil wheel.

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    1. Re:Also in the next version by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps you mean the Energizer Bunny.

      The Easter Bunny would just melt into a chocately mess.

  23. Simpler version scans almost as many by noidentity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SSID="linksys" (or SSID="default")

    1. Re:Simpler version scans almost as many by t1n0m3n · · Score: 1

      I use "linksys" as my SSID for my honeypot network. It confuses the security accessment teams that scan our networks. Quite funny at assessment reporting time.

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  24. 283 * 0 = 0 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The WiFi bandwidth has 17 data channels, each of which can be controlled by only one network at one time. How can a single node sniff more than 17 networks simultaneously.

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    1. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by misleb · · Score: 1

      17 theoretical channels, but only 11 are used in the US. As for sniffing multiple networks on the same channel, it is possible if they are far enough apart and you are between them. You could pick up both as long as they didn't happen to send a packet at the same time. But 300 distinct networks at a single location? Seems far fetched to me.

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    2. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by anethema · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, while 11 channels are claimed, there really are only 3.

      1, 6, 11.

      Any other channels are just varying degrees of overlap with these 3.

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    3. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      each of which can be controlled by only one network at one time.
      Multiple networks can "share" a channel. No one "controls" a wifi channel.
    4. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Only a single AP can transmit on a single channel; APs sensing existing other APs on a channel jump to another. Only a single network is on each AP. Therefore, only a single network is on each channel at one time, though a single network can jump among different channels.

      Maybe if you're between 2 APs separated by more than their transmit radius, but less than double it, you'll get both "sharing" a single channel, because they each can't sense the other to switch. But that'll make your own node unable to arbitrate the collisions.

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    5. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can use directional antennas and sniff more than a single network on a channel.

    6. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easy when you stop assuming that 802.11 has much in common with conventional (ala TV, FM radio) broadcasts, because the two are very different.

      Watching the 802.11g traffic at work on a spectrum analyzer shows that it's pretty quiet unless it has something to say, unlike TV and FM radio which are -always- noisey even when nothing is going on.

      So when it's busy doing nothing/being quiet, it's easy for another network to transmit on that slice of spectrum. If they're all lightly loaded networks, this sort of arrangement can work pretty reliably.

      When they both speak at once, packet loss might happen. But it's the same sort of loss you'd experience from a cordless phone, or a leaky microwave, and the protocol is designed to allow for some of that.

      Things turn a bit more iffy when there's massive data transfers happening on one or more networks at the same time on the same channels, but that is generally pretty infrequent, particularly in the context of the networks this device is geared toward.

      For example: I once sat on the second story of a house in a quiet neighborhood and was able to connect to three different (unencrypted) networks cohabitating on channel 6, without difficulty and without repositioning the antenna. They all seemed to be lightly-loaded, and all seemed to work quite well enough for general web browsing. (Of course, being the kind person that I am, I decided to play frequency coordinator for the block and reassign those three APs to channels 1, 6, and 11 to minimize overlap and maximize potential bandwidth for future freeloaders.)

      Further anecdotes include a recent hotel stay. I found that the place I was staying in was nice enough to provide an access point sitting on channel 1, with a slow DSL account. However, the hotel across the street had also had an access point on channel 1, but with a much faster T1.

      My BitTorrent client vastly preferred upstream performance of the T1 across the street, so that's what I used. It worked fine.

    7. Re:283 * 0 = 0 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      So apparently the time division of a channel is "first-come, first served". It seems like a "good" strategy for maximizing bandwidth on one's own network in a contentious space is to flood the segment with null packets, blocking other networks from getting a hold on the channel, until real data is swapped in with real packets. With no cost per packet, I don't know why nodes wouldn't practice that defensive "goaltending" strategy as a matter of course.

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  25. Original Post by Columcille · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The link above is to a blog which links to a blog which links to... It seems the original info came from http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus _project/ more info is available there than at the site linked at parent.

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    1. Re:Original Post by Columcille · · Score: 0, Redundant

      okay I am an idiot, I overlooked that parent does indeed include the tgdaily link at the end. Moderators... hit me hard.

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  26. love the picture in the tgdaily article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have neither a fancy hat, nor a yellow wifi-scanning PC.

    However, my penis is touched by a woman regularly[*]. I win.

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    [*] Just to clarify, this woman is 1) human, 2) alive, 3) not related to me, 4) not paid by me to perform this service, 5) does not require electricity to perform this service.

    1. Re:love the picture in the tgdaily article by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Funny

      > However, my penis is touched by a woman regularly. I win.

      I've told you before, we don't want to hear about the herpes clinic.

  27. 300 networks? by misleb · · Score: 1

    I'm skeptical. If all you had to do to recieve faint signals was to amplify the antenna, then everyone would do it and you'd have awesome range without needing to increase the signal strength. But it doesn't work like that. The higher the gain, the more noise you get. And with all those people broadcasting on overlapping channels along with normal interferrence, noise is exactly what you're going to get.

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  28. Why modded overrated? by dch24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Okay, this is one of the most informative posts ever. People are thinking this is Williams, the original guy who built the box (even though the thread credits someone else).

    I don't see how that post could be modded overrated. If I get modded troll and otherwise ignored...

  29. K9 version by ms1234 · · Score: 1

    The K9 version of this project will lack the J in the beginning for sniffing.

  30. Start your engines. by Overfiend1976 · · Score: 1

    Let the wardriving games commence.

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  31. Why? by NetRAVEN5000 · · Score: 1

    I'm sure this is a misquote.

    He can already crack WEP in under five minutes, I could see where he could possibly crack WEP in a single "for" loop or something using recursion (in which case why would it need to loop? Maybe if something goes wrong, the router doesn't respond or something).

    And then SHA1 and RSA encryption would be his next target, and eventually he'd get it to where he can crack that in a single "for" loop.

    1. Re:Why? by Yvanhoe · · Score: 1

      A loop, by definition, usually takes several cycles to execute...

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    2. Re:Why? by alx5000 · · Score: 1
      From GP:
      I'm sure this is a misquote.
      1. Read. 2. Write reply. 3. Re-read. 4. Post.
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    3. Re:Why? by NetRAVEN5000 · · Score: 1

      Only if the end condition is not met in the first cycle.

    4. Re:Why? by AJWM · · Score: 1

      1. Read. 2. Write reply. 3. Re-read. 4. Post.

      5. ???
      6. Profit!

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    5. Re:Why? by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1
      A loop, by definition, usually takes several cycles to execute...

      Usually, but not in VHDL.

  32. Re:Why the confusion? by PureFiction · · Score: 1

    i don't know who suggested/queued the original article intro posted by Zonk. i am involved on the software side and posted the anonymous corrections (prior to recovering this long idle acct) since neither Kyle nor myself were contacted prior to publication to verify technical details in content as evidenced by the couple of mis-quoted or mis-interpreted points above.

    or perhaps this is all an elaborate rouse designed to make you think in that direction... ;)

  33. Interesting by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    So what exactly does he do with all those purloined keys?

    I employ two of three possible methods to secure my network, MAC filters and WPA keys. So I was thinking, how does this deal with MAC filters. Then it came to me that the first two octets of the MAC are easy - Intel has a pretty big lock on wireless, as does Broadcom. So that's 65,535 fewer combinations to look for. But where it gets interesting is in the last four octets. That leaves 4,294,967,296 possible combinations. Not that you couldn't brute it, but that coupled with the WPA keys might take more than five minutes to crack.

    So the Janus project is interesting, and they'll score lots of keys. But I don't see the overall usefullness.

    1. Re:Interesting by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Presumably they just wait until someone else joins the network, listen to their MAC address, and use that. Since it's a bus network, it isn't even always obvious when you have two conflicting MACs.

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  34. Re:Terrorists by madcow_bg · · Score: 1

    ...but with a secured network it [hacking] is too difficult to prove.
    There you have it. Even a less-savvy judge will be convinced that it is possible and feasible, if there are tools like that mainstream.

  35. Referencing Judge Dredd is not funny by Typingsux · · Score: 1

    Drop the leading letter off the name of your project then it would be funny.

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    1. Re:Referencing Judge Dredd is not funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Roman mythology, Janus was the god of gates, doors, doorways, beginnings, and endings.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_(mythology)

      Not everyone's education starts with 1995 movie references.

    2. Re:Referencing Judge Dredd is not funny by Typingsux · · Score: 1

      "Not everyone's education starts with 1995 movie references." It's called the Janus project. Thanks for the attempt, but you just made yourself look foolish, coward.

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  36. I don't even bother with WEP/WPA by pestie · · Score: 1

    I don't even bother with WEP or WPA - I figure it'll just slow things down. My home wireless router is running OpenWRT, so setting up WPA is an ass-ache anyway. I MAC-locked the wireless to keep the drooling masses from connecting (clueless neighbors, etc.) If the client has a correct MAC, they can get an address from DHCP and talk to my OpenVPN port. That's all. If someone were determined to DoS me, they certainly could do so in this arrangement, but then you can DoS wifi even if it's running WEP or WPA, too - those provide no protection against a flood of forged disassocate packets, for example. And I do have to worry about security holes in OpenVPN or dnsmasq (which does DHCP from the OpenWRT box), but this is an acceptable security/convenience trade-off for me. It's just a home network, after all.

  37. reading problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Forget the military, how about corporate espionage?
    Isn't that done by big companies?
  38. MAC filtering is useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even windows users know how to sniff your MAC and clone it. WPA is good, though; while it's certainly crackable the crack's too hard to bother with when there are plenty of unsecured (or WEP-secured) networks available.

    I tested kismet and aircrack on ubuntu dapper a few weeks ago and it readily cracked dozens of WEP keys; but I could only get WPA keys through dictionary attacks, which is annoyingly time consuming and thus not worth the effort.

  39. What?! by crhylove · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure most of us are strongly in the Bill of Rights camp. And that means freedom of speech, which I believe FUCK is a part of.

    Go back to church and don't hurt yourself by attempting to think. Leave that to us science and nerd types, please.

    rhY

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    1. Re:What?! by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      While I understand it's intellectually easier for you to simply dismiss my comments as those of some religious nutjob, I'm afraid I don't fit your view. Haven't gone to church in years, not even sure I believe in the idea of God. So where does that leave you?

      Let's go back to the topic, perhaps?

      So you claim that the right to say "FUCK" is established in the Bill of Rights. So by your logic, I can say FUCK wherever I want? Oh wait, no, I can't. Dozens of court cases (many going all the way to the Supreme Court) regulate speech and reconcile this with the US Constitution as being in the public interest.
      - The First Amendment does not protect statements that are uttered to provoke violence or incite illegal action.
      - You do not have a constitutional right to tell lies that damage or defame the reputation of a person or organization.
      - June 1973 (Miller v. California), the Supreme Court held in a 5-to-4 decision that obscene materials do not enjoy First Amendment protection.
      - The courts have agreed that in times of war, there may be reasons to restrict First Amendment rights because of conflicts with national security.
      - Courts have agreed that the necessity of certain medical procedures (abortion clinics) may not be infringed by protesters exercising their right to Free Speech.
      - To ensure a fair trial without disclosure of prejudicial information before or during a trial, a judge may place a "gag" order on participants in the trial, including attorneys.
      - Even the time, manner, and place come into play - distribution of information should not impede the flow of traffic or create excessive noise levels at certain times and in certain places.

      This is entirely setting aside the 'public/private' property rights and communal goods rights that we all own as the airways are, I believe, public property but with private leaseholds on it - I don't frankly know the details of that status. I *believe* that part of the lease terms are to comply with FCC decency guidelines. Since you find this particular word so precious, I'll put it in a context that helps you understand: if you sign a FUCKING contract, you'd better FUCKING well conform, or be FUCKING subject to the FUCKING penalties that you FUCKING agreed to by signing your FUCKING name. Does that make sense?

      So you claim you can say FUCK and it's protected speech. I'd say that essentially yes you can, with a number of caveats. I'd further say that I have, oh, about 200 years of caselaw on my side with English common law stretching back further than that.

      Like the egotist who wrote the post to which I was referring, you can't apparently understand that the social contract requires that EVERYONE moderate their behavior - even you - so that we can all get along with a minimum of acrimony and maximum happiness. OMFG you can't say FUCK whenever you want? Whatever will you do? Perhaps learn a few more adjectives that you can use that the GENERAL CONSENSUS agrees aren't vulgar.

      It might even broaden your mind and bring you to understanding that people with whom you disagree might simply be people with a different viewpoint, and not all dismissable as religious wing nuts.

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