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The Top 5 Games of All Time
An anonymous reader writes "The guys over at trusted reviews have come up with lists of their top five games of all time. There are some obvious choices and some very obscure ones, but on the whole its interesting reading. See how their lists compare to yours."
This list sucks!
Have all of these news/blog sites run out of things to write about because it seems this year everywhere has been inundated with dam lists.
Starcraft isn't that good of a game worth mentioning? Knights and Merchants?! Age of Empires?
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If the title meant ALL TIMES, then yes, chess or some card game would likely win. Same as Bible is the ultimate bestseller of all times.
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Tch. Everyone knows that the real top 5 are:
1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2. Halo 2
3. Half Life 2
4. Counter Strike
5. Battlefield 2
All my 11-year-old neighbors told me so.
If it doesn't include Pong, then it's not a real list.
What is this blasphemy doing on slashdot?!
This certainly isn't an "of all time" list. The vast majority of the games are from the last 15 years and it's very heavy on console games (No Zork? Or Pac Man?). As a gamer (tabletop, arcade, PC, and even consoles) I have NEVER understood the appeal of gaming consoles. 20 years ago consoles were a worthwhile investment since they could smash computers in every area except input (mouse/joystick/keyboard vs. crummy gamepad). At this point computers smash consoles in every area, and two genres (FPS and RPG) are literally impossible to realize with the crippled input devices provided with your typical console.
Quality of layout and choice of graphics aside, this is really a pointless review. But who exactly are these people at TrustedReviews.com? Since when do they exist, and why are we supposed to trust them?
And why does Slashdot keep posting what they write again and again?
and I just puked advertisements.
Not that my opinion is worth a damn, but it's free.
bzflag, because it remains the premiere open-source 3d multiplayer game, in my view.
Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.
Tempest, because it represents the pinacle of the vector game. No, it wasn't the most advanced one, but best in terms of gameplay, look, adictiveness, and quite frankly, unit sales.
Robotron, because it is the best adrenaline pumping game ever made. Retire the cup.
Pac-Man, because of its sheer iconic status. There were games before Pac-Man, and games after Pac-Man. But anyone can look at any game and immediately be able to say with certainty which group it belongs in. No other game of its time can say that.
Honorable mention goes to Myst, which, like Doom to the FPS, represented a redefinition of the adventure game.
You're welcome.
I'm sorry, but the ol' days of Bungie before they got bought out by Microsoft (man, at the time I was thinkin' that was a cold day in hell) had one of the best games of all time. Marathon. Little is it known but this game gave _birth_ to the rocket jump. The story line was friggin phenomenal. It could be scary as hell. Coming out just a year after doom, it made all the right changes (larger deathmatches, multiple floors per level, etc). And let us not forget the game that gave birth to the age old crazy AI video game meme. That was a golden egg for sure.
and one more thing... Frog blast the vent core!!!!
Please allow me to hate the creator of the 120-character limit: *HATES*. Thank you.
Ahh - this it the list of THEIR favourites. Not yours, or mine, but theirs... If you can convince them that they like Scrabble or Chess better than the games in the list, then maybe they'll update the list for you.
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It's already slashdotted... here's the CC link.l e.aspx?page=8102&head=0
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What? The particular game which I would have included if I made the list myself wasn't named? What an outrage!
Blessed are the 1337, for they shall pwn the earth.
See how their lists compare to yours
My #1 favorite game is "hide the sausage". Wonder why they didn't list that one.
Push Button, Receive Bacon
Mario 64 instead of Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World?
Ocarina of Time instead of Zelda or A Link to the Past?
Jedi Knight instead of KotOR?
Formula 1 GP instead of Gran Turismo?
Unreal Tournament instead of Quake?
No Starcraft?
No Final Fantasy (take your pick) or, at the very least, Chrono Trigger?
No Grand Theft Auto?
I'm missing a bunch I know, but I've only been thinking about this for a few minutes.
Nobody even went oldschool and mentioned a true classic like Donkey Kong, Pit Fall, Pac Man, or Space Invaders.
Which video games are the "best" is ultimately pretty subjective, but they've picked sequels that undeniably weren't the best in their series even. Everyone's got their "out there" pick for an obscure game that they happened to get hooked on, but how can you put those in a "top 5 games of all time" list when there are absolute masterpieces that are basically the same game done better?
Glad I didn't bother to RTF this A and just skimmed the list of games.
Game... blouses.
Chaos page in list
:)
I remember this game only after reading that... and man, yeah it was great. I think I got the whole game free on a cover cassette of Your Sinclair!
That really brought back memories, and just for that I thank those guys for their lists.
Ok, I've been a gamer of various sorts for approaching 30 years, and the only game on their list that I think belongs in a top TWENTY is Doom.
Top 5, in no particular order.
Zork
Adventure for the Atari 2600 (Warren Robbinett forever)
Civilization II (sorry, Civ fans, Civ 2 is the definitive version)
Utopia for the Intellivision (the FIRST widespread RTS)
Asteroids arcade version
These aren't even my top five favorites of all time, but the ones I feel deserve even more recognition than they got (ESPECIALLY Utopia, we wouldn't have Starcraft without it). They pioneered generations of games, and their influence is still felt today.
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For those interested, here is the complete list:
Riyad:
- Resident Evil 4 - Nintendo GameCube
- Chaos - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Dungeon Explorer - PC Engine
- Blade Runner - PC
- Riyad: Mario 64 - Nintendo 64
Stu:
- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - N64
- Lords of Midnight - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Civilization - PC
- ICO - PlayStation 2
- Half-Life - PC
Benny:
- X-Wing vs Tie Fighter - PC
- Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 - PC
- Counter-Strike - PC
- Unreal Tournament - PC
- Shenmue - Sega Dreamcast
Gordon:
- Kick Off - PC
- Sim City - PC
- Tetris - Nintendo GameBoy
- Championship Manager 2 - PC
- Formula 1 GP - PC
Spode
- Commander Keen - PC
- Lemmings - PC
- Doom - PC
- Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - PC
- Day of the Tentacle - PC
OK - Lets forget that
- It was the first truly 3D 8 bit game
- It had 8 galaxies, each containing 256 solarsystems to explore
- It had missions, and police ships as well as pirates and traders, and the ability to be either
But fer Chrissakes it was coded into 18Kbytes of handcrafted 6502 machine code. That alone deserves a mention!Remember kids! Guns don't kill people - Americans kill people.
The complete lack of "Elite" on these lists must be a conspiracy! I thought maybe they were all kids, but one of them at least names Lords of Midnight, which was pretty awesome. Nowhere near as good as elite though.
I realise that it's all for the ads, but realistically, each page has a lot of content, with screenshots, detailed rundown of the game etc. It's a lot better than I've seen on other sites.
If there are 5 reviewers (I didn't count), then a game a page plus some extra fluff for intros and you have 29 pages.
Why don't you click on a few ads though? ;)
WHy is Total Annihilation not on any of those lists, it is still the best RTS ever made, well, as far as I am concerned, anyhow.
Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.
No, that was Wolfenstein.
I liked Doom better, but it was Wolf which reinvented the genre.
This list looks much more like a bunch of people trying to prove their gaming 133TN355 by claiming obscure favorites. I'll site as an example Dungeon Explorer. For starters the author of the article refers to the system it came out on by its Japanese name "PC Engine" rather than what it was marketed as in the US, "TurboGrafx-16", which is what most American gamers would know it as (I myself was confused for a few minutes until I remembered this fact). Then there's the very fact that this person is naming it one of their top 5 games ever. I've played Dungeon Explorer. Allot. Me and my older brother played the hell out of it when I was younger. It was great. But to call a slightly more advanced Gauntlet one of the best games of all time is absurd.
There's plenty of other examples to go from on the list (like naming civilization instead of civ2), most of which is comprised of good games that didn't sell well, are really old, came from systems most people didn't own or some combination of the previous three. "Good games" is the key phrase here too. Most of the games on the list are in fact good games, they're just not, for the most part, top 5 list worthy.
So in summary, I felt like I was reading an article written by those kids we all knew in school who wouldn't listen to anything that sold over 10,000 albums just so they could look cool.
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Given the sparkling coversational gems I hear on the internet on a regular basis; 'lol wut' or 'OMG, LIEK, U KNOW!?', I'd say a paragraph per page is about all the average internet reader is capable of, given that they seem to find 'Dick and Jane' challenging reading material.
It tried to make the list, but it died of dysentery :(
Who plays console games? I mean, seriously, do they even have a market percentage these days?
I can't believe no one mentioned System Shock II!
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How can you fail to list Three Gorges Dam?
You know, when I played Beta 7, they were saying the same thing about Beta 6?
Fast-forward half a decade later, and they're saying the same thing about CS 1.6! A decade from now, I'll hear kids bitching about how Counter-Strike 7 was so much better than CS 8.5.
not my cup of tea, for comparison half life's DMC (Death Match Classic) mod played along these lines
1. spawn
2. run towards nearest big gun
3. kill people
4. die hilariously
5. repeat = fun
and counter strike, (which admittedly i havent played much since one of the original beta's back in 99) goes something like this
1. chose from vast array of guns in a menu and not being a firearms expert have no idea what's what or what's any good about them
2. spawn
3. try to find players on other team, half of whom are camping
4. die from single bullet shot to toe
5. wait 20 minutes for round to end
6. finally repeat = suckage
obviously the former falls into the arcade category and the latter into tactical, so whilst it's most certainly a question of taste i prefer my games to place their emphasis on fast furious fun
If you don't risk failure you don't risk success.
Every time I hear 'realistic' and 'counter-strike' in the same sentence, I tend to laugh.
What maps did they remove that you liked?
Let's get this straight.
Wolf3d invented the FPS genre.
Doom perfected single player FPS and invented multiplayer FPS.
QuakeWorld perfected multiplayer FPS.
Both Doom and Quake were so good they both deserve to make the top 5. As good as Quake is, the single player can't hold a candle to Doom. In fact, I've never seen another game that packs the visceral punch of Doom single player. The sheer quantities of enemies and satisfying weapons (especially the double-barrell shotgun in Doom 2). In Quake it was like, okay, now fight 3 guys, now fight 4 guys. Whatever happened to pick up a chainsaw, lights start strobing, and a wall drops behind you with 100 zombies behind it?
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I agree that this is one of the most amazing games ever. Not only did it bring us some technical innovations (at the time) such as the ability to look up and down to aim your weapon, dual triggered weapons, etc., but it was one of the first FPS games to actually have an amazing, intricate plot.
If you haven't played it, go for it.
"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks
Yes, this has been done to death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_and_video_ga mes_that_have_been_considered_the_greatest_ever does a good job of keeping score.
I bought an N64 just to play Super Mario 64. 3 Shigeru Miyamoto!!
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Exactly, and to further illustrate the impact of the game hardware-wise, Quake primarily drove the demand for 3Dfx Voodoo cards via the development/availability of the minigl driver for the game, hence kickstarting what now is today the multi-billion dollar GPU industry.
"Get off the cross - we need the wood" - Tori Amos
I think the space sim is a genre that hasn't seen much action in the last seven years because it's already been perfected by Freespace 2. Let's talk about a game where you have a little fighter flying amid literally miles-long capital ships firing giant beam weapons at each other. Where there's gameplay moments and mid-mission plot surprises that just bowl you over. Where you have complete control over three squads of wingmen and you can see (and target) every subsystem on every ship. Where you actually have to make targeted strikes on these subsystems using bombers and covering fire to take down big targets. Where you fly into the middle of really awesome nebulae that do crazy things to your ship's sensors.
:P
And most notably, where the devs were pimp enough to put a clause allowing completely free redistribution to friends and acquaintances in the EULA, and it's now legitly open-source. Leading to the creation of beautiful graphics packages that breathe new life into it. (video). Anyone who thinks they might enjoy this game and hasn't tried it yet, you owe it to yourself
What would be interesting though would be a top 5 games slashdot commenters play eg:-
1) Trolling
2) Providing a link to the ad free version of the article
3) Saying something totally obvious but because you write more than a paragraph hoping it'll get modded as insightful
4) Karma whoring
5) Karma whoring other posts (eg mod parent up please!)
Video Game cheats, hints a
Quake 3? That the game where they make you jump around in space using big jump pads as if you were in some kind of friggin' Super Mario jump'n'run just so that your mate who's been perfecting his Railgun skills all month can just pluck you from the sky before you even make it to the yellow armour? You must have been the one with the Railgun if you call that perfect and balanced :)
The top 5 games of all times, in no particular order:
1. Ms Pac Man : the best Pac Man game and the most successful coin-op ever.
2. World Of Warcraft : best multiplayer game ever.
3. Half Life : best FPS single-player game ever.
4. Civilization : best strategy game ever.
5. Tetris : best action puzzle game ever.
What about Duke Nuke'em Forever? The term "ALL TIMES" includes future times (and even far-distant future times).
Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. --Mark Twain
1 -- Angband, and the Roguelike genre in general
2 -- The great 8 and 16 bit console RPGS -- no Phantasy Star, no 2D Final Fantasy, no Secret of Mana?
3 -- MMORPGs. I hate them, I don't play them, but to have none at all is strange.
4 -- Alpha Centauri, greatest Civ game.
5 -- Planescape: Torment.
I'm also surprised a bit by the absence of both the X-Com and Total War series.
I can understand omitting 2 and 5 if you don't have a soul. But the others are inexplicable!
Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
Yeah, but this is "Trusted Reviews" - if we can't trust them, then who can we trust?
RTFM; please, I beg you.
Sorry, I'm not reading an article that gives someone's opinion of the top 5 games but runs 29 pages. They can scam their advertisers some other way. How does this crap even make it to slashdot. Don't we have admins or something who exercise some discretion over the selections?
This game is still selling in the stores. Ten bucks, new. Patches still come out for it (it's still supported). Even if I didn't like the game I'd have to admit that it belongs in any "top X of ALL TIME" list of video games. The game has been selling for what, about ten years now? How many other video games in any genre are still selling in "ordinary" stores after that much time? You can still buy Starcraft at Walmart, Hastings, Best Buy, etc.. This fact alone makes it an objective cause for it to be listed. The fact that such considerations were not done tells me this is just a "i like these games and my opinion matters" production. Big deal.
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