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Hypoallergenic Cats

Lambticc writes "The BBC is running an article about how a US firm has successfully bred cats to reduce the production of the protein which causes an allergic reaction. Since the result was achieved through selective breeding, there should not be any complaints from the anti-GM lobby." From the article: "The cats will not cause the red eyes, sneezing and even asthma that some cat allergy sufferers experience, except in the most acute cases. Despite costing $3,950 (£2,104), there is already a waiting list to get one. Allerca first started taking orders for genetically engineered hypoallergenic cats back in 2004."

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  1. Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You already reported it in 2004.

    1. Re:Dupe by TekPolitik · · Score: 3, Informative

      It wasn't even new then. There's an entire breed, called Siberians, that have been known to have this quality. All that seems to have happened here is selective cross-breading to get it into other more conventional species.

    2. Re:Dupe by rishistar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And what they fail to point out to the people buying these cute cuddly kittens is - what happened to the many 'unsuccessful candidates' in the breeding program?

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    3. Re:Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      1. Dogs take big piles of steaming shit wherever they please. Every cat I've had finds an area of loose earth and digs a hole, covering it over after he has finished. A dominant unneutered tom may leave his faeces uncovered, but if you let such a beast roam free, you're an idiot.

      2. The cat by its temperament is unlikely to attack a human, its natural prey being always smaller than itself; when outside its own territory, if it confronts a giant, it prefers to flee. The fox, a locally populous wild creature, exhibits similar properties, making it mostly harmless(tm). The wolf/dog, on the other hand, has evolved to confront prey its own size, thus has far more potential for aggression against humans.

      3. The cat by its size is unlikely to cause damage to property.

      3. As if this wasn't enough, the cat is not a pack animal like a dog, not considering its owner the pack alpha. The average dog (like the average human human, pretty much) is naturally subservient, which is why you can train it, and are responsible if your training fails. This may explain why, at least under English law, you have far greater responsibility for the actions of your dog.

      6. Any sufficiently larger animal, human or otherwise, would show no qualms about killing me.

      In summary, you get service from dogs, to whom you present orders, but companionship from cats, to whom you can only present reasonable propositions.

  2. Heh by B3ryllium · · Score: 4, Funny

    But when will they finally breed the North American House Hippo!? Huh? That's what I want to know.

    1. Re:Heh by Mistshadow2k4 · · Score: 4, Funny
      they already do, you can usually find them eating at macdonalds, or any other fast food joint. beware though, if they get ahold of your credit cards, they will spend it all at the mall, and some wont put out, till after you put a ring on thier finger
      Another variety sits around in its underwear all day, watching TV while drinking beer and refuses to help out around the house.
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    2. Re:Heh by rpbird · · Score: 3, Funny

      Our friend Mr. Evolution actually created those, and elephants the size of dogs. I kid you not. Weird things happen to creatures stranded on islands. Sometimes they get really large (the Dodo), sometimes they get really small (tiny elephants and hippos). Unfortunately for those pet lovers out there, our distant ancestors found these island species and ate them all. Kinda reminds me of Futurama and the last can of sardines.

  3. Patents? by giminy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope they annoyingly patented what they did (though I don't get how to you specifically patent selective breeding), or the first two owners of frisky felines will put them out of business.

    Maybe they'll sell one gender of cat?

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    1. Re:Patents? by Duckz · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can only get spayed or neutered animals from them.

    2. Re:Patents? by QuantumFTL · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can only get spayed or neutered animals from them.

      And that, my friend, is why I release all of my pets under the GPL. What an outrage!

  4. Re:Yes, but they are now shipping! by Psykechan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get yours now from petsovernight.com.

  5. Breading? by dmwst30 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hrm...selective breading of cats...wonder how that works. Extra crispy or regular? Corn flake or bread crumb or batter? How do they keep the cats from eating it?

    ("The BBC is running an article about how a US firm has successfully bred cats to reduce the production of the protein which causes an allergic reaction. Since the result was achieved through selective breading, there should not be any complaints from the anti-GM lobby." if they fix this one)

  6. I for one welcome our new hypoallergenic overlords by KNicolson · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know every time I've got some pussy, I've had terrible rashes and itchiness, although I've never had to pay as much as $4,000 dollars for them.

  7. Re:Artificial species by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

    You might want to wait for the second model year. There's still some question about whether they're just selling cat oil or not.

    KFG

  8. I posted this idea to Usenet back in 1992 by Jon+Noring · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As noted in a prior comment to Slashdot, I proposed this idea to Usenet in 1992 (link to Google archive of my original article included in my prior comment.) Of course, I'm tooting my horn, but Allerca actually did it. Good luck to Allerca.

  9. The real question by iknowcss · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real question is, though, will they taste as good?

    Good BYEEEEE karma

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  10. I have one thing to say about that... by Brad1138 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ACK! phftt!

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  11. Re:Selectively Breaded Cats by momerath2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "selective breading"?

    Maybe it has something to do with catbread?

    (more, originals)

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  12. 38 million households own a cat?? by stox · · Score: 4, Funny

    No one "owns" a cat. What they really need to say is that there are 38 million households where the cat(s) tolerate the presence of humans. In most cases, the cats will have trained their humans to fulfill their every whim.

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    1. Re:38 million households own a cat?? by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 5, Funny

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      Get off my damned keyboard you whiskerfaced devil!!!

    2. Re:38 million households own a cat?? by allanj · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've heard it like this:

      The Dog sees the Man serving food and water and generally taking care of it and loving it. The Dog concludes: "Wow, he must be God".

      The Cat sees the Man serving food and water and generally taking care of it and loving it. The Cat concludes: "Wow, I must be God".

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  13. Why pay $4000 for a cat? by Derwood5555 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why pay that much for a cat when theres plenty of dogs out there that are already hypoallergenic.
    Take the Basenji for example. It's hypoallergenic, doesn't bark, grooms itself like a cat, and dislikes water like most cats.
    And while they don't bark, they do make a yodeling type of noise.

    And, you can usually get one for quite a lot less than $4000.

  14. Re:I for one welcome our new hypoallergenic overlo by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I know every time I've got some pussy, I've had terrible rashes and itchiness, although I've never had to pay as much as $4,000 dollars for them.

    As Norm MacDonald once said:

    • Norm: How come whenever we go out it always costs me a couple hundred dollars?
    • Woman: Because I'm a prostitute.
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  15. Sphynx cats by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know a guy who is allergic to cats, so they got a couple of sphynx cats. Hairless, so no dander problems. Look a bit like Yoda. In fact, kind of repulsive. And I'm a cat lover.

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  16. Re:Selective breeding vs GM? by aXis100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No amount of natural cross-breeding will result in tomatoe vines with glow-in-the-dark fish genes.

    The anti-GM activity is due to the proliferation of new protiens in existing foods that will trigger new alergies/diseases. Also with plants once they start releasing pollen you cant control it.

  17. Hypoallergenic by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interestingly, it's a marketting term - it has no legal meaning per the FDA, which is why cosmetic companies feel free to use it; they are not saying you won't be allergic to this or that any FDA approved testing has been done. Yet people think it means something so they buy hypoallergenic products.

    As one marketeer put it during a presentation - "My job is great - I sell a product that is 90% air and people pay a premium for it!!"

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  18. Good! by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, that's just good business sense for them - but it also helps reduce the number of strays on the streets, and gets people used to sterilizing their pets.

  19. Siberian cats by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A torrent of anecdotal evidence claims that this breed, a more normal looking one, doesn't make allergic people wheeze and break out. On the other hand neither my allergist nor our late cat's vet has seen anything to confirm that in the professional literature.

    They're also very expensive.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_(cat)

    1. Re:Siberian cats by ortholattice · · Score: 2, Interesting
      My experience was the opposite. I'm only very mildly affected by most cats - we have a tabby at the moment - but a few years ago we had a Siberian. We gave it away because my eyes would water so badly when I was around it. (OK, I was constantly brushing it, too, which didn't help. Unfortunately it would only let me touch him, and in fact developed such a strong attachment to me, constantly begging for attention, that it was a nuisance.)

      I had never heard this anecdotal evidence. Perhaps if I had, the problem wouldn't have happened, because I would so strongly believe that it couldn't? Mind over body can be mysterious...

  20. Re:what about the non-selected cats... by mdhoover · · Score: 3, Funny

    Surplus cats were sent to universities worldwide for helping out with the quantum computing effort. They go through a lot of cats that way...

  21. Re:Selectively Breaded Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mmmm. Sweet and Sour Cat; General Meow's Chicken; Cat with Broccoli; can you send over some fried rice too? The last night programming crew is hungry.

  22. Why this is news by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, this is obviously good news anyway for people who don't want a Siberian.

    1. Have you seen a Siberian? The Siberian isn't just another body shape or fur pattern, it's something as big as your arm. It's a _huge_ cat. It's bigger than some dog breeds. (And legends have it that some are also actually able to function as a dog, because at that size it feels a lot less threatened by someone human sized. So it _can_ defend its territory from a human, if needed. I wouldn't know if it's myth or not, though.)

    Now I'm all for large cats myself, but I can also see why someone would want a standard 5 pound lap cat instead.

    2. The Siberian isn't anywhere near allergen-free. In fact, no natural cat breed is, from moggie to lions and tigers. The Siberian does produce a lot less allergen, but for some people it's still too much. So producing cats with even less, would still be welcome news for a lot of people.

    3. The Siberian only has less of the cat-speciffic protein. I.e., it won't help anyone whose allergy is to something else. E.g., someone with a generic allergy to fur, will still be just as allergic to the Siberian as to any other cat breed. Basically, if holding a rabbit or petting a dog also gives you an allergy, getting a Siberian won't help at all.

    I don't know if this new breed addresses this third point, but it IS one area where improvement is possible.

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  23. Piracy? by noidentity · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sure these are copy-protected cats. I can't wait until someone pirates one! Cheap hypoallergenic cats with eye patches for everyone!

  24. he's right by r00t · · Score: 3, Funny

    Small cats belong in North Africa, maybe China, and areas generally around there. They do not belong in the New World or on any island.

    Yeah, there are other predators. Owls are dying because cats eat all the easy prey!

    Humans cause mass extinction, sure... by supporting cats. This is especially bad near beaches, because that is where people like to live. Rare beach mice are going extinct. Without them, the beach grass dies and then the beach erodes.

  25. Re:Selectively Breaded Cats by 2centplain · · Score: 2, Funny

    And "Sesame Kitten."

  26. Selective breeding is "GM" too by mi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We have been "genetically modifying" animals through selective breeding for millenia.

    It is not neccessary to introduce bits of cells (the narrow understanding of "GM") from other things to modify genes.

    If agriculture was invented today, it would've been banned...

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  27. I have a Siberian by Smallest · · Score: 2, Informative

    she's only 8 pounds, not huge. her parents were a bit bigger, though.

    i have some pretty sensitive (not severe, just very easily activated) cat allergies, but I haven't have any symptoms with our cat. before we got her, as a test, we went to the breeder's house and i stayed in the 'cat room', with five aduts and ten kittens, for an hour - just to make sure i was symptom-free. no problem at all.

    i'm also taking Zyrtek, but that's not supposed to be all that great against pet allergies.

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