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Power Suit Promises Super-Human Strength

anthemaniac writes "LiveScience is reporting out of NextFest on a Japanese-built power suit that amplifies the strength of its wearer. The onboard computer is hooked up to sensors that monitor natural movements, then it inflates cuffs to boost lifting power. The Power Assist Suit could be used by hospital workers to move heavy patients, the researchers say."

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  1. Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let the Mech Wars BEGIN!

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Brickwall · · Score: 3, Funny
      You have it wrong.

      Iron Man lives!

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    2. Re:Let me be the first to say... by icj · · Score: 2, Funny

      They are currently working on a model that can only be piloted by teenaged schoolgirls in the event a giant monster attacks earth.

    3. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Epistax · · Score: 4, Funny

      No no. This is just why you never make a character with more than 4 strength; it's just a waste. The suit gives you plenty to hold the largest weapons with no penalties and lets you put points into the far more valuable int and agi.

  2. Starship Troopers anyone? by Scooter's_dad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now all we need are little jet packs on the ankles.

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    1. Re:Starship Troopers anyone? by idonthack · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Combine this with the recently renewed efforts by the marines to develop a system to deploy soldiers from space, and we're pretty much there.

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  3. Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While the application of strengh-enhancing "suits" to care centers like hospitals and nursing homes may be unique, the idea has been around forever in both Sci-fi and military research programs. Battery life is the main issue for real suits, and this one with 30 minutes of power is no different. Unlike military applications, though, 30 minutes ought to be plenty to assist in the movement of heavier patients or simply augmenting the strength of waif-like Japanese nurses. In the battle theater, though, 30 minutes is woefully short.

    Other possible applications is in the rescue operations in the aftermath of a large earthquake or hurricane. We use tools to augment our strength all the time, from the fork to the forklift, we use these tools to do things that we just can't do ourselves.

    I welcome our new Japanese mecha suit nurse overlords.

    1. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 2, Funny
      In the battle theater, though, 30 minutes is woefully short.

      You've obviously never seen an arnie movie ;) In 30 minutes he can defeat an entire army with a bag full of weapons, and save his daughter.
      This suit could allow Arnie to do it in 15 at least!!!

    2. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by NinjaFarmer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually 30 minutes for a supported combat air drop could be pretty useful. 30 minutes of human mobility tank could be used to sieze a drop zone or helecoptor landing site. After that you lose the strength and mobility on the suit, but you still have the heavy weapons and special forces soldiers in those suites on site. Getting the suites OUT may be a problem, and the entrance is anything but subtle, but if you are going for real "shock-and-awe" type of assault a powered suit like that would be pretty good.

    3. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by briancnorton · · Score: 2, Insightful

      30 minutes is an eternity in modern battle. Most firefights last a few seconds.

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    4. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by lymond01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, for military purposes, the suit doesn't really need to be small, or even fit through a standard door frame. Like a post above, Starship Troopers (the book not that...other thing) had a suit that made them over 7 feet tall and could carry all kinds of ordinance. Probably room for more than 30 minutes of battery life in a suit like that. Just need to build the motor with enough power to lift the giant duracells. (Possibly solar cells for desert runs?)

    5. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by krunk4ever · · Score: 2, Informative
      This reminded me Berkeley's Exoskeleton project: BLEEX
      http://bleex.me.berkeley.edu/bleex.htm

      The Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) funded the BLEEX project in 2000. Last November, U.C. Berkeley's Human Engineering and Robotics Laboratory, successfully demonstrated the first experimental Exoskeleton in which the pilot (i.e., the wearer) could carry a heavy load, while feeling only a few-pound load.
    6. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm imagining a nerd putting on one of these suits and approaching the bully who's been taking his lunch money. After 29 minutes of playing with his new super strength, he finally taps the bully on the shoulder. It's about this time that his battery dies. The camera pans to the side so we can only hear the gory details: wham, wham, wham! Shoop. Then the camera pans back to show our hero sitting in a trash dumpster, checking his battery. Supervolt. Nooooooo! Tune in for part two when our hero is sure he'll get even with the bully once and for all, now that his Supervolt battery has been replaced with a Sony one. Go get him, tiger.

    7. Re:Knock knock. Who's there? U.S. Military by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Funny

      sony battery? i have to assume the sequel involves painful chemical burns?

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  4. Dull by cowscows · · Score: 4, Funny

    Moving heavy patients? Was someone having a contest to see who could come up with the most boring use of super-human strength?

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    1. Re:Dull by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Moving heavy patients? Was someone having a contest to see who could come up with the most boring use of super-human strength?

      It may sound boring to you. Sounds like a really good idea to me...my mother, formerly a nurse, suffered a career-ending neck injury when she had to move a patient by herself in an understaffed nursing home. (The patient suffered from senile dementia, became combative, and she fell with the patient on top.)

      After fifteen years, two surgeries, and various physical therapies, she still has significant pain and disability.

      Sure, I want to trade in my Subaru for a mecha as much as any geek. But anything that prevents other nurses - the people who have the most impact on keeping you alive when you're hospitalized - from suffering a similar fate, sounds like a damn good idea to me.

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    2. Re:Dull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Flinging fat people around like trailers in a tornado is boring to you?

      Holy shit man I have to be at your next party

    3. Re:Dull by slack-fu · · Score: 3, Funny

      You forgot to start that reply with... "You insensitive clod!"

    4. Re:Dull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure, I want to trade in my Subaru for a mecha as much as any geek.

      I'm sorry. Owning a Subaru automatically disqualifies you from owning a mecha.

  5. Let's get them all out of the way by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. What could possibly go wrong?
    2. I for one welcome our new power-suited overlords!
    3. Does it transform into a semitruck?
    4. Put Rico's Roughnecks on standbye.
    5. Now we need to find a whining Japanese teenage boy who will be required to share living quarters with lots of hot girl and who be the only one who can pilot the mech to save the world.
    6. All hail our giant cyborg President! May death come quickly to his enemies!

    OK, we now return you to your regular Slashdotting.

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    1. Re:Let's get them all out of the way by triffid_98 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Gekigangar Punch?

  6. Keep Out of Reach of Children by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Okay okay, okay, you can have all the cookies, Sandy; and I swear I won't tell Mommy, I swear!"

  7. Yeah yeah, patients etc. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 5, Funny

    My question is where are the dual minigun mounts?

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  8. Oh my god by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this suit gets a short while somebody is in mid-lift I hope it makes it on YouTube.

  9. In other words by Hao+Wu · · Score: 4, Funny
    The Power Assist Suit could be used by hospital workers to move heavy patients, the researchers say.
    Or even fat people, possibly....

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  10. And 2 years prior... by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2, Informative

    The DARPA funded BLEEX was prototyped to allow soldiers to carry 70 pound packs across flat and sloped terrain with hopes of 150 pound capacity in the next 6 monthes.

    Both are wonderful applications for exoskeleton technology; between the nature of asymetrical warfare and the retirement of the baby boomers, I think we're going to see alot more veterans and grandpa's go robo. Now if we could only improve that 30 minute battery...

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  11. 'Elbow cuffs' by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this thing works buy supplying extra force at the joints, as it appears, then doesn't it carry a serious risk of injuring the extremities? For example, the suit might give you enough power via your elbows to lift something very heavy, but all that power is also being transferred through your wrists and fingers, which as far as I can see are unsupported and unaugmented. The amount of stress it could potentially put on those joints is a little worrying.

    I would think a system that covers the entire limb in questions would be far safer...

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    1. Re:'Elbow cuffs' by asuffield · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This exact point was raised by Masamune Shirow, many years ago (in Ghost in the Shell, I believe). A fully cyborg arm, attached to a test stand, could easily lift a one ton weight - but attached to a human body, attempting to do the same would simply rip the arm out of its shoulder socket. The point was that only total-conversion cyborgs, or near-total-conversion, would gain any significant boosts in ability to beyond the level that could be accomplished by a normal human - limb replacement is good enough in the case of injury, but wouldn't let you do very much that you weren't already able to do.

      Presumably a full-coverage powered suit would have a similar effect, compared to limited augmentation of a few joints or limbs. Of course, there is the additional problem that human joints aren't designed to move very fast for a sustained period of time, and driving them at high speed with external actuators may cause injury.

  12. Re:Power suit by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Read Starship Troopers and ask which version the guys at DARPA will fund.

    This is from Japan. Their militaristic ambitions are still low (though perhaps on the rebound), while they have an aging popultion.

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  13. alternate uses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The Power Assist Suit could be used by hospital workers to move heavy patients, the researchers say.
    "

    Or to defeat godzilla, wichever happens first.

  14. The real question is... by magicnico · · Score: 3, Funny

    What OS is on the onboard computer ?

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    1. Re:The real question is... by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      What OS is on the onboard computer ?

      Windows, of course. And it works just fi

  15. Re:SNL by PDXNerd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or at least pick you up - here are some better pics and a whole slew of great information from the horses mouth. http://www.we.kanagawa-it.ac.jp/~yamamoto_lab/pas/ index.htm

  16. Missed the most important one of all... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. What could possibly go wrong?
    2. I for one welcome our new power-suited overlords!
    3. Does it transform into a semitruck?
    4. Put Rico's Roughnecks on standbye.
    5. Now we need to find a whining Japanese teenage boy who will be required to share living quarters with lots of hot girl and who be the only one who can pilot the mech to save the world.
    6. All hail our giant cyborg President! May death come quickly to his enemies!
    7. But does it run Linux?

    Well, does it?
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  17. Sounds like the birth of a fetish... by AmazingRuss · · Score: 5, Funny

    Japanese + nurses + mechasuit

    1. Re:Sounds like the birth of a fetish... by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Japanese + nurses + mechasuit

      Maybe they can use them to fight off the tentacles?

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  18. Ready to Wear by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was at the NextFest last night, and I checked out the exoskeleton. If you think you get a blister when you wear shoes a little too big/small, you'll see how you get several inches rubbed off when you wear one of these contraptions. Maybe by the time they replace our outer layers with some synthetic materials we'll be ready to wear these things all day.

    There was a really cool android chick, extremely realistic, which didn't seem to mind at all as the humans grabbed and pulled at "her" body. Now that's something we'll probably have people wearing out more pretty soon.

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  19. Once this is in use... by John+Guilt · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...will there be a grandfather clause allowing me to keep voting?

    (What if the younger, semi-socialist R.A.H. had written "Starship Troopers"? He was still had that hazed-in loyalty to the military....)

  20. Wininng by __aawdrj2992 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this mean I can now use my nerdy prowess as a physical advantage?

    I.E.: finally win a armwrestling match for once in my life.

  21. Rifleman's Creed v1.1 by __aawdrj2992 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is my powered armor suit. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My suit is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
    My suit, without me, is useless. Without my suit, I am useless. I must fire my tatical nuclear ordinance true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me.
    I must vaporize him before he shoots me. I will...
    My suit and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
    My armor suit is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its negative force feedback. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my powered armor suit clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
    Before God, I swear this creed. My suit and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life...
    So be it, until victory is Terra's and there is no enemy, but peace!

  22. Re:Great.... by lahvak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now wreckless teens will be using these things to flip over my Honda.

    You mean they will do that to have a nice wreck, so they won't be wreckless any more?

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  23. Voice Activated by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, coming from Japan, the super-powers of this suit will be voice-activated. And not just regular-voice, or sotto voce, the wearer will be required to shout-out the desired function as it is being used.

    Fat-Person-Lifting Super-Strength!!!!
    New-Bride-Over-Threshold Ultimate-Lift!!
    Giant-Cherry-Blossom Power-Tree-Shaker!!!

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  24. Re:Queue the anime jokes! by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Funny

    You also misspelled "seppuku." : )

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  25. What's the price tag? by TheLink · · Score: 4, Informative

    If it's really expensive and stays expensive, it may be cheaper to hire someone strong enough to do the job. In lots of places the cost of labour is lower than in Japan.

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    1. Re:What's the price tag? by rabiddeity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem is, Japanese society is highly xenophobic. I'm burning karma here, but this is from someone who has lived here for several years. They wouldn't let foreign workers into the country to do simple labor, for fear that they'd overstay their visas and cause crime and not learn to speak Japanese. Say what you will, but a racially/socially/economically homogeneous population has done loads to keep Japan's crime rates comfortably low, and they like it that way.

      So from that perspective, robotic assists seem like the way to go. Sick, but true.

  26. Creations of Favorite Mario Powerup? by FireMotion · · Score: 2
    Yay!

    This poll comes closer and closer:

    Favorite Mario Powerup?
    • Mushroom (Super Mario Bros.)
    • Fire Flower (Super Mario Bros.)
    • Tanooki/Racoon Suit (Super Mario 3)
    • Kuribo's Shoe (Super Mario 3)
    • Cape (Super Mario World)
    • Metal Cap (Mario 64)
    • Rocket Nozzle (Mario Sunshine)
    • Mega-Mushroom (New Super Mario Bros.)


    (Okay, we already had the mushrooms.)
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  27. Does it come in... by sam991 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Orange? Or Green?

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  28. The difference between Japan and the US by mrjb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Japanese first think of the suit as a way to help (nurses) in hospitals.

    As usual, the first American thought is how this could be used in war.
    I find this a bit tiring at least. Don't you guys see how brainwashed you are?

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    1. Re:The difference between Japan and the US by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And the ever-righteous European is the first to turn a story about an augmented strength device into a slam on the US.

      Anyone who has seen Aliens or played MechWarrior can see the obvious potential military uses of this device.

    2. Re:The difference between Japan and the US by l0cust · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I find this kind of generalisations more than a bit tiring:

      Ooh Japan builds super-strong robots to help the hospital nurses => cute japs !!111

      Some (supposedly) americans thought about military use as soon as they heard about it => WTF!!!11 sick-death mongering-carnage loving-americans !! You guys are soooo brainwashed !

      Just relax. If something stimulates the imagination then it is bound to be talked about. I am sure this power suit has its origin in some kid's dream who wanted to have super strength to beat up all the bullies or simply to be a superhero. Not every idea which has its origin in the quest for power is without possibilitis of constructive use. Countless people have been inspired by sci-fi books and movies which depicted wars/fights/gadgets used for general fighting and violence but a lot of them ended up creating something which helps the weakest sections of humanity to this very day.

      [for the hyper sensitive]No I have no particular feeling for or against Japanese,Korean, Mongolians, Americans or humans in general.

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    3. Re:The difference between Japan and the US by arthurh3535 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Gee, stereotype much?

      While the US has/have been working on exo-frame type technology for military purposes, it is not a purely "American" concept. USA and Japan have both had fictional characters based on "power armor" and such. Iron Man, Knight Sabers, Starship Troopers.

      Though isn't it interesting that the mundane or boring use is the first wide-spread use is going to be a pragmatic use?

      Innovation comes to where it is needed first, not where we necessarily want it to go.

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  29. Two other ways of achieving super-strength... by rinkjustice · · Score: 2, Interesting

    no suit required.

    Glycogen Super-Compensation carbload, which basically means glycogen stores in the muscles and elsewhere are first stripped using a ketogenic-style diet and primed with light resistance training, then followed by a massive refeeding of high-glycemic carbohydrates for 24 to 48 hours. The result of this supercompensation of glycogen stores is huge muscles and a massive surplus of strength and endurance. I kid you not.

    Enhanced Neural Drive which is basically tricking the central nervous system into thinking the upcoming load you will bear if heavier than it really is, thus making it feel light.

    There are probably others I can think of, but I just woke up ;)

  30. Re:We really need this by Elemenope · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heck, you could make personal armor three times thicker, stick on an antigrav pack, and still that fscking heavy plasma...wait...oh, hell.

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  31. Yes, I know I'm shallow... by sacrilicious · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... but all I want this for is so I can put it on and then scream, "Get away from her, you BITCH!"

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  32. Re:SNL by eck011219 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thanks for the link. I'm assuming it doesn't amplify strength enough to worry about breaking your wrists beyond the metal sleeve - I wonder, though. Anything that amplifies strength runs the risk of exceeding the limitations of the actual body underneath, you know?

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  33. Re:gasoline? by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 2, Funny
    "In the future, our soldiers will be gas-powered!"
    If you've ever eaten at an Army mess hall, you would know that they already are!
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