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Scientists Make Item Invisible to Microwaves

Vicissidude writes "A team of American and British researchers has made a cloak of invisibility. In their experiment the scientists used microwaves to try and detect a copper cylinder. Like light and radar waves, microwaves bounce off objects making them visible and creating a shadow, though it has to be detected with instruments. If you can hide something from microwaves, you can hide it from radar and visible light. In effect the device, made of metamaterials — engineered mixtures of metal and circuit board materials, which could include ceramic, Teflon or fiber composite materials — channels the microwaves around the object being hidden. When water flows around a rock, co-author David R. Smith explained, the water recombines after it passes the rock and people looking at the water downstream would never know it had passed a rock. The first working cloak was in only two dimensions and did cast a small shadow, Smith acknowledged. The next step is to go for three dimensions and to eliminate any shadow."

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  1. I know a recently-shampooed poodle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that would love to be invisible to microwaves.

    1. Re:I know a recently-shampooed poodle by jalvear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, I know a few hot dogs in my fridge that would like to be invisible to microwaves.

  2. Why should Harry Potter have all the fun? by the+Gray+Mouser · · Score: 2, Funny

    The article mentions that doing the same thing to light waves should be possible.

    How long do you think till you can pick up a Cloak of Invisiblity at your local MegaMart?

    1. Re:Why should Harry Potter have all the fun? by thermopile · · Score: 5, Informative
      I was on a selection committee for DARPA to look into this stuff a few years ago.

      Negative Index of refraction Materials (NIMs), metamaterials, or whatever you want to call them, are relatively easy to make in the microwave region, since the wavelengths are on the order of centimeters. Thus, using a special arrangement of rings, loops, and wires, you can craft a lattice-like material that exhibits negative refraction. Technically, it has a negative magnetic permeability (mu) and negative permittivity (epsilon).

      This has all kinds of weird implications. The group velocity is still in the forward direction, but the phase velocity goes in reverse. Evanescent waves propogate, not die off. Perfect lenses can be made. Measurements LESS than the wavelength of light can be taken. There was a list of implications in the August issue of Scientific American, I believe.

      Anyhow, this works great at the ~cm scale. Visible light is hard as hell: the scale there is on the order of nanometers. And the copper or silver or tungsten wires used to make the metamaterials have MISERABLE magnetic losses at these small scales, so mu is no longer negative. The energy no longer propagates in the medium. As of three years ago, there were no promising candidates for solving this problem. There was an outside hack at using carbon nanotubes -- which may or may not maintain their permeability down to small scales -- but it was a long shot at best. Arranging the little guys would have been devilishly difficult.

      Glad to see that Pendry, who's been in this field almost as long as Veselago, is still making good strides. Even if they can't get to the visible wavelength, NIM's have spectacular applications for microwave antennae.

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    2. Re:Why should Harry Potter have all the fun? by shafty023 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But when you walk to the aisle with all of the cloaks how will you find them

    3. Re:Why should Harry Potter have all the fun? by avirrey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not as smart as thermopile, but I will say that the definition of 'invisible' for the most part should be limited to the human visual range. While this may be the ultimate goal the truth is that our 'detection' of a massive range of frequencies across the spectrum is so advanced, that anyone hiding behind a 'vision inhibiting' cloak could still be detected by other methods. Again, I'm not a hard-core physicist, but I would assume if you do some sort of city-sweep with X-rays you should be able to pick up spectral anomolies since these cloaks presently work in the micro-wave range. Somebody please explain this better if you understand what I'm saying... LoL.
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    4. Re:Why should Harry Potter have all the fun? by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny

      How long do you think till you can pick up a Cloak of Invisiblity at your local MegaMart?

      Maybe you can already, but I've never seen one myself.

  3. hmm, by joe+155 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm unsure about the water claim, although it is true that you can't tell the difference that doesn't mean that it's not different, the water has been moved all over the shop, but it looks like it hasn't been affected.

    Other than that if they make something invisable from visable light then it wouldn't be able to see anything, so a person would be blind or a bot would be virtually impossible to navigate, because you couldn't see it or track it...

    Still, very interesting idea.

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  4. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 4, Insightful
    FTA:
    A team of American and British researchers has made a Cloak of Invisibility. Well, OK, it's not perfect. Yet. But it's a start, and it did a pretty good job of hiding a copper cylinder.
    So, we'll just just change his name to Harry Copper.

    This title is absurd. Invisibilty?

    The research is very kewl though, and i hope it progresses. But why not lay off the stupid titles, and produce results based on kewlness or usefulness, instead of what can be termed with a popular buzzword. Information Technology is bad enough from its buzzword infusion. Must we destroy legitamte research/discoveries as well?
    1. Re:Moo by twostar · · Score: 5, Funny

      someone using the term "kewl" is complaining about buzzwords?

      *Ring* Hello?
      Hi, this is the Pot calling. Is the Kettle in?

  5. Yay for TV Dinners by Odin_Tiger · · Score: 4, Funny

    This will allow for more variety in TV Dinner desserts, because they can just shield it so only the stuff that needs to get nuked will get nuked. w00t!

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  6. You know you are a fat geek when... by B5_geek · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know you are a fat geek when...
        the first thing that came to your mind when reading this summary was:

    "Oh cool, no more burnt and undercooked mini-pizzas!"

    I really should go outside more often.

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  7. Bah! by Clazzy · · Score: 5, Funny

    They could've posted a pict...

    Oh, wait. Never mind!

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  8. Just talking... by nathan+s · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..from my ass, so to speak, but I imagine you could leave certain frequencies uncloaked, enough to slip in, say, remote video from a drone flying nearby or surveillance cameras in the area or GPS satellites in the case of bots. Perhaps a super-advanced version could shift cloaked frequencies on the fly in order to prevent jamming/detection of the video source even. I dunno, if this works in the first place it seems like there should be ways around the "blindness."

    1. Re:Just talking... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd say the simplest is just to make a few small holes in the cloak. If they are small enough they will be overlooked. Attach a small camera to the hole, and you've got a good chance of a wide field of view with a dust-mote sized hole.

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    2. Re:Just talking... by MightyYar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just think of the military uses. All you have to do is convince your enemy to use this on the roof of all their sensitive laboratories.

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  9. Quite some time. by AltGrendel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This was already addressed to some degree in the SciFi book "The Last Mortal Man". The reasoning for making them illegal was that the criminal element used them to evade law enforcement. I'm sure the DHS would have alot to say about this.

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    1. Re:Quite some time. by the+Gray+Mouser · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ok, on a serious note then:

      How long till we see military issue suits? They wouldn't have to be perfect to be a big help to infantry in medium cover terrain.

      Of course, almost anything military gets a civilian version eventually, so we're back where I started.

    2. Re:Quite some time. by toddbu · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The reasoning for making them illegal was that the criminal element used them to evade law enforcement.

      This assumes, of course, that the criminal element (or anyone else for that matter) will be able to use the cloaks successfully. Think about how hard it would be to rob a bank. If you're wearing the cloak then how does the teller know that you're there demanding money? Perhaps you just want to cloak the getaway car. How do you find it back when you're done with the job? Even if you remembered where you parked it, finding the door handle would be problematic. If you could turn the cloak on and off then maybe you'd be ok, but with this particular technology it doesn't look like that's possible.

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    3. Re:Quite some time. by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And the biggest beneficiary of infantry invisibility suits? Guerilla fighters.

      Sure, they won't get them right away. But you better believe that they'll try to capture them, and any state sponsors that they have immediately try and produce or otherwise acquire them. Big armies, trying to cloak things like tanks driving down the stret, will have a much harder job at it than fighters simply hiding themselves and their RPG, already in the shadows or buildings. Not to mention things like pressure or vibration-triggered mines/IEDs won't be affected, which also benefits guerilla fighters on their own turf.

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    4. Re:Quite some time. by Rei · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's silly. The teller can hear you.

      Even if there was no "on-off" button on this, it would be trivially easy to "make" one. Paint water colors on all or part of the object that you can wash off. Tape on visible objects. Put a cover over it. Etc. This assumes that the cloak *itself* isn't flexible, allowing you to take that on or off.

      Also, I doubt it'll be perfect invisibility. Even if, to the naked eye it appears perfect, I doubt it would to custom goggles analyzing the scene. Surely there are some wavelengths that it won't work on (from the sound of it, you need to customize a layer of this for a *specific* wavelength). Or the polarity could be thrown off. Or all sorts of other things.

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    5. Re:Quite some time. by XenoRyet · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The real issue, and the major downside to a cloak of this nature, is how do you see where you're going while you are wearing it?

      If it's diverting all the light around you, there's no light to get in and hit your eye so you can see.

      The solution would be much more complex than the basic cloak. You'd have to let some light in, but make sure it didn't get back out again. I can see that being problimatic.

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    6. Re:Quite some time. by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure any relatively non moronic criminal would quickly work out how to maximise the benefits of being totally invisible and avoid the risks you have mentioned. For example if you were invisible you wouldn't need to ask the teller anything, just follow someone into the secure area of the bank, hang around for a while seeing where all the keys etc are kept and then wander into the vault stuff as much cash as you can carry under your invisibility cloak and wander out again. I don't see why you'd need a getaway car but assuming that you did then cloaking it when you parked it would be a stupid idea, you'd only activate cloaking if you were actually being pursued and trying to hide. With a cloak of invisibility and half a brain you should never be in any situation where you're being pursued.

    7. Re:Quite some time. by beyowulf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I suppose they'd have to make the cloak invisible to the visible spectrum and provide goggles to see the non-visible(Infared, UV) spectrum.

    8. Re:Quite some time. by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It just means that organized combat would evolve to take advantage of them also. Ever since WW2 we've been moving to smaller and smaller units working as independent organizations, then re-combining to carry out more complex tasks. With the introduction of cloaking technology you'd see the extreme end of that. 4-8 man squads operating independently on foot and light vehicles, hunting down guerrillas the same way the currently hunt us. Biggest obstacle to us doing that NOW is that we're so easy to identify. If we could have small units operating all over a city, totally invisible to anyone...well, good luck trying to plant IED's, or even gathering at your buddy Ahmed's house to discuss tomorrow's plan of attack.

    9. Re:Quite some time. by gutnor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You only need 2 little holes of 5 mm and you have all the lights needed for your eyes. Considering the likely imperfection of the invisibility suit, it is likely that when you can spot the holes, you are already close enough to detect the wearer.

    10. Re:Quite some time. by JasonTik · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You'd have to let some light in, but make sure it didn't get back out again.

      This would be devastating to the cloaking effect if the same wavelengths were let in that you were trying to cloak against. Your cloak would make the area it covers darker by not passing all light.

      If you were trying to cloak against visible, you would have to use microwave or something else to look at things with to avoid this.
    11. Re:Quite some time. by borawjm · · Score: 5, Funny

      The real issue, and the major downside to a cloak of this nature, is how do you see where you're going while you are wearing it?

      Use your feelings, you must

    12. Re:Quite some time. by AikonMGB · · Score: 2, Funny

      It occurs to me now (after the fact, of course) that said blind person would have far less fun in said ladies' washroom...

    13. Re:Quite some time. by gnomino · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's the use of that if everyone else has the same thing?

    14. Re:Quite some time. by iluvcapra · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The way you describe it, military cloaks of invisibility would seem to be plainly illegal under the Hague Conventions, supposing that killing an enemy while you are invisible translates as a "treacherous act," by Article 23. Also if you engaged in combat under a Cloak you would be necessarily trading in your protections under GC1 and 3.

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    15. Re:Quite some time. by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nonsense. Well, the Hague convention art. 23 bit is nonsense anyway. You could argue that we already "kill treacherously" because we employ camouflage, snipers, artillery, landmines, etc. Any such argument would be just plain silly though. The treachery part of the Hague conventions refers more to things like poisoning, or getting your prostitutes to "distract" them while you sneak up and slit their throats (sound unlikely? think about how old these conventions are). As to the GC, you're absolutely right. However, the reason that these convention came about was in order to protect civilian lives. Basically, we, as soldiers, deliberately make ourselves into targets. While our uniforms may come in camouflage colours they're also extremely easy to identify once seen, so what we're really doing in any built up area is strapping giant bullseyes onto ourselves saying "shoot me, and not the guy in the blue jeans and 'fuck you' shirt". What terrorists do, by not identifying themselves in a similar manner, is place civilian lives at greater risk. If I can't tell an enemy from a non-combatant I'm more likely to shoot at anyone that looks threatening, whereas when the bad guys all wear the same colour there's really no excuse for shooting a civ. So, the cloak, while possibly violating the word of those specific Geneva Conventions, would uphold their spirit. While soldiers would no longer be easily identifiable, you also wouldn't be likely to mistake a civilian for a soldier. Why? Because the soldier would, when in combat, always be either in uniform or invisible. Either way he'd look nothing like the civilians around him. Based on that, I could see those conventions being modified to work with the new technology.

  10. TERRIBLE NEWS! by abscissa · · Score: 2, Funny

    What!! This is awful!! It means my microwave item-detecting device, which I walk around with to detect objects and random items, will now be obsolete!!

  11. Re:bad analogy by wyldeling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Both follow the path of least resistance. It just happens that most of the time light follows a straight line. A mirage is an example of when light doesn't follow a straight line.

  12. I have a perfect cloaking material right here... by thrill12 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...in my home.
    Only funny thing about it is.... I can't find it.

    I bet if I could find it though, I'd win the Nobel prize.

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  13. meta-materials by lgw · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you can hide something from microwaves, you can hide it from radar and visible light.

    I don't think this follows, at least when we're talking about metamaterials. So far no one has invented metamaterials for optical wavelengths, as metamaterials rely on complex structure that's somewhat wavelength specific. It's easier to play "fool the photon" with microwaves (because of the longer wavelength) or X-rays (because of the higher energy) than it is with visible light. (Xiang Zhang's experiments in extending near-field effects of visible light are a very different mechanism, and are lumpedin with metamaterials simply for lack of a better term.)
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    1. Re:meta-materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually that's not true. Metamaterials *have* been invented that work in the visible (although at the red end of the spectrum where wavelengths are longer) and there have been metamaterials which work in the near-IR for some time now. You are absolutely correct that fooling a microwave is easier, however fooling X-rays will be enormously difficult - x-rays have wavelengths on the order of the spacing between atoms in a solid, hence creating nanostructures with a "repeat unit" on this order is virtually impossible. It still may be possible to create something with scattering features on this wavelength using exotic arrangements of subatomic particles (complicated interfering standing waves in an electron resonator possibly) but this increases the difficulty by orders of magnitude further!

  14. Was Anyone Else Thinking... by Banner · · Score: 3, Funny

    Romulan Bird of Prey? (Or equally, the small Klingon ships also armed with the cloaking device?).

    Sorry, grew up on waaaay too much startrek :-)

    1. Re:Was Anyone Else Thinking... by angelasmark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You obviously didn't grow up on too much star trek. Any true trekkie would know that its a Romulan Warbird and a Klingon Bird of Prey...

    2. Re:Was Anyone Else Thinking... by OfficialReverendStev · · Score: 5, Funny

      You obviously didn't either. Somebody bring me the learnin' stick. You're both technically right. The Romulan Bird-of-Prey (from TOS, small white-ish ship with the bird painted on the bottom) did have a cloaking device, as did the Klingon (and Romulan) D-7 Battlecruiser. In the TNG era the Romulan Warbird (big and green) and the contemporary Klingon ships (Bird-of-Prey and Vor'Cha). Now, go play. I have a phaser to polish.

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  15. "In effect the device, made of metamaterials..." by FirmWarez · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah, so the ship is the cloaking device! So much for putting on pointy ears and stealing it.

  16. Has anyone seen David Smith? I searched the lab... by Wonderkid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently, he had an accident with the targetting mechanism.

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  17. Backpack of Invisibility? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll go out on a limb on a series of "ifs" (and maybe a bag of physics naivetes), but let's say we perfect this manner of imperceptibly "derefracting" light. And let's say we also complete the ambitious work identifying and manipulating gravitons, still hypothetical. Could we "cloak" spaces and matter from any interaction with our universe, not just electromagnetic? Maybe the Stong and Weak Forces would remain for interaction, but practically, outside the tiny diameter of a nucleus, could anyone notice?

    Could a "gravity cloak" create subspaces operating as independent universes? Could we contain matter too highly interactive for current use safely? Like a tiny black hole conveniently near a device it's powering, or a pair coupled into a wormhole for "faster than light" travel through custom-folded space? Vast amounts of stuff crammed into pocketsized spaces.

    Maybe the old playground philosphers choosing between "teleportation or invisibility superpowers" will finally have a lab to figure out which is really better.

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    1. Re:Backpack of Invisibility? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2, Funny
      Could we "cloak" spaces and matter from any interaction with our universe, not just electromagnetic?

      It's already been done. But you don't even have to cloak gravitons. What do you think all that dark matter is? It's intersolar sprawl, and the aliens use the cloaking so that we don't keep bothering them, asking for technology.
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  18. Stealth Ship by rlp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds like a better version of stealth. I recall reading that an early attempt at a stealth ship did TOO good of a job of dispersing microwaves (compared to background reflection of empty ocean) and showed up as a moving 'hole' on surface radar screens. Assuming that this technology could be applied to bending light around an object, it would need to do so without creating obvious distortions.

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  19. I have a cheaper way to do this by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Funny

    I make myself invisible to microwaves by unplugging them, or turning off the lights.

    Sneaky little buggers, always watching you and beeping at you to take your dinner or coffee out ...

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  20. There are a lot of naysayers around here . . . by mmell · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Without debating the practical aspects of invisibility, I do have to wonder if this could be useful as some sort of radiation shielding? If they're able to do it for more energetic forms of e/m than microwave radiation, it seems to me that it would make an excellent shield. It doesn't have to be perfect invisibility, allowing me to "peek out" of the shield is fine. It doesn't even have to be non-detectable - I don't mind a visible "energy distortion" or "energy turbulence" or whatever - I just don't want to get fried.

    Yes, I know - this won't do that much against baryonic radiation, but for e/m . . .

  21. Re:Color me dubious by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, but to dismiss something like this because it's still possible to detect the cloaked object would be in error. Think about the camoflauge gear militaries already use. You can still see them. HOWEVER, if you're not looking carefully enough, it's a lot easier to miss them in certain environments. The point of cloaking or camoflauge is not to make you undetectable, but to make it require more resources to detect you, just like the point of encryption is not to make the data unreadable to others but to make the threshold required to read it (in terms of money, time, etc.) high enough.

    An infiltrator who appears as a dark spot will still be much more effective in how he's so hard to detect.

  22. What about radiation from the object? by MrHops · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems to me, even given perfect invisibility, that the object in question would radiate energy all by itself.

    Do some spectranalysis, and you immediately know something fishy is going on. (Copper won't radiate like the ground, for example)

  23. Re:bad analogy by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    fluids follow the path of least resistance. Light follows the path of least time.

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  24. Re:Microwaves? That's nothing! by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 2, Funny

    Already done. Scientests have been invisible to human women long before slashdot was even conceived

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  25. Picture here! by thepotoo · · Score: 2, Funny
    Pictures are now live at http://www.microwavecloakingpicture.com/.

    Amazing stuff.

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    1. Re:Picture here! by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The site seems to be cloaked from the HTTP spectrum.

  26. Re:Actual invisibility is useless by DrKyle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's this thing called a pinhole camera, it's a relatively new advance. By allowing this pinhole of light in with the proper equipment just enough light could be absorbed to allow the user to navigate. Of course there would be a visible pinhole floating in space, but could you reliably pick it out at a distance of more than a few feet?

  27. Fermat's principle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    To expand: light following the path of least time is known as Fermat's principle. Fermat's principle can in turn be derived from Feynman's path integral formulation of quantum mechanics; it is related to the principle of least action. Feynman's book QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter has a lay derivation of Fermat's principle from path integrals (due to constructive superposition of quantum phase differences).

    1. Re:Fermat's principle by wyldeling · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Point. Let me clarify. Mathematically, they are the same thing. The principle of least action applies in both cases, just the path the minimizes the particular Lagrangian (T - V) (or Hamiltonian (T + V), if you prefer) differs depending on the potential energy. (Both methods are applications of the Calculus of Variations. ) Either way, it is a minimization problem and the same techniques apply. So, as far as I'm concerned, they tend to blend together.

  28. finally! by Gospodin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll be able to heat up my Chef Boy-R-Dee without taking it out of the can!

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  29. A Cloaking Device? by Ltar · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is a violation of the Treaty of Algeron, the romulan empire will not stand idly by and watch as you disturb the delicate peace between our peoples! Hand over your research and all of your devices to Romulan high command at once, or they will be taken from you.

  30. Grammar Nazi by dosun88888 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You didn't point out a single spelling mistake in the original post. You're certainly not the Definition Nazi.

  31. They're making this WAAAAAAAAY too complicated. by frogstar_robot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just paint the copper cylinder pink and turn on a cheap and simple Somebody Else's Problem Field.......

  32. Re:Vulcan-level tech? by ScaryFroMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Technically, Romulans are Vulcan.

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  33. The failure of moderation by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's this thing called a pinhole camera, it's a relatively new advance.

    And, folks, here's a case indicating the limits of moderation by the unwashed masses. A pinhole camera is the very oldest type of camera. Having no lens, it can be made with a box and (gasp!) a nail. It is known to have been known about by the Chinese somewhere in the 5th century B.C, and Aristotle in 4th century B.C. Oh, how a small bit of research in widely available knowledge could have saved the parent poster from looking like a dolt!

    But this worthless (and incorrect) piece of wisdom gets moderated up by the clueless who don't take the time to understand what the !@# they're reading.

    Just when I start to get hope for mankind, I see something like this...

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  34. Whooooosh! by djeca · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's this thing called sarcasm, it's a relatively new advance. By stating a clearly false proposition in the proper tone of voice a touch of humour can be added while still conveying to the reader the intended meaning. Of course on the Internet the tone of voice can be lost, but what sort of moron would fail to realise this?

  35. so it's not INVISIBLE... by JhAgA · · Score: 2

    That story has a totally misleading title. I even filled a complaint about it in BBC Complaint section, which follows:

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    I'm writing because I feel cheated by the above news story, which is entitled "Experts create invisibility cloak". Is it now the most popular story in BBC's website, according to the top stories link, but it is totally misleading.

    INVISIBILITY means "not visible; not perceptible by the eye", that CAN NOT BE SEEN. Now, the story isn't about making something NOT BEING SEEN, but about a cloack that deflect microwaves! The story even reads:

    "In principle, the same theoretical blueprint could be used to cloak objects from visible light. But this would require much more intricate and tiny metamaterial structures, which scientists have yet to devise."

    So, the title could be easily corrected to "Experts give huge step towards invisibility", but to assert that they "created an invibility cloack" is totally wrong and misleading. BBC has alwasy been a brand synonymous to credibility in news. However, I'm sure that if stories like that keep hiting the front page, just to attact readers, that will suddenly deteriorate. I'm ashamed.

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  36. Not only that by phorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But a moving object is still traceable, as it will physically disturb the environment around it. A human will trample vegetation, break branches, or leave footprints etc. A tank will leave track prints, stir up a whole lot of dust, and many other such things.

    So this technology would be most useful for hiding static vehicles/persons, or perhaps even moreso for hiding buildings (think, a whole, semi-invisible bunker).

    I wonder how it would affect sound waves as well. Perhaps sonar would pick up things that radar would not. After all, a mirror or glass might be used to distort or reflect light, but does little against sound...