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Sony Under Investigation by DOJ

An anonymous reader writes "As the DOJ continues its investigation into RAM price fixing, it has started looking at Sony's operations. With all the negative press Sony has been getting, this couldn't come at a worse time." From the article: "The Japanese company received a subpoena from the Justice Department's antitrust division seeking information about Sony's static random access memory, or SRAM, business, company spokesman Atsuo Omagari said. 'Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry,' the company said in a short statement."

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  1. Ram! by Ninjaesque+One · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ram is going to get cheaper
    Hooray! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram!
    Cheaper, faster, bigger, smaller
    Hooray! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram!
    Now that people aren't makin' it expensive
    Hooray! Ram! Ram! Ram! Ram!
    It's gonna get cheaper!

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  2. Holy FUD Batman! by toleraen · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry," the company said in a short statement. (Emphasis mine).

    So the DOJ appears to be investigating every manufacturer, and there is no info even hinting that Sony did everything wrong.

    Oh, now I see, it's a Zonk post.

    1. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, because we wouldn't expect a quote from Sony about the status of a DOJ investigation into Sony to be, you know, biased anything.

      -stormin

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    2. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny
      Holy FUD Batman!

      Hey, leave me out of this!
    3. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      FTA:

      "Earlier this month, U.S.-based chipmaker Cypress Semiconductor Corp. said its SRAM operations were also under investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice."

      That's one other company under investigation. Maybe the investigation is industry-wide, maybe it's not. There's no reason to assume Zonk is more biased than Sony. I mean, who could possibly be more biased about the fate of Sony than Sony?

      In any case "everyone else was pricefixing too" (or whatever the charges, if any, turn out to be) is hardly likely to make the damage of this story go away. We've got ridiculous PS3 prices, the whole Sony DRM fiasco, the exploding laptop batteries, and now this. Even if this was an industry-wide problem, it's not like Cypress Semiconductor Corp has exactly had front-page news of any kind recently. This is like strike 4 for Sony, strike 1 for everyone else. The fact of the matter is that Sony is far, far more vulnerable to this press than another company due to both previous bad press and the vulnerable financial position they're in running up to the launch of the PS3.

      I think I see vultures starting to circle...

      -stormin

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    4. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "So the DOJ appears to be investigating every manufacturer..."

      Incorrect.

      "....and there is no info even hinting that Sony did everything wrong."

          Not coherent enough to be incorrect. It's a story about the impact of a DOJ SRAM (as opposed to the DRAM part which apparently caused your 'every manufacturer' confusion) investigation into a long and established company already suffering a number of other self-inflicted wounds. Why the tizzy, do you own Sony stock bunky?

          For my part, Sony shifted from an engineering to a IP-lawyer/marketing driven company almost 20 years ago. They're a pox and their demise would be welcome news.

    5. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry," the company said in a short statement. (Emphasis mine).
      I'll amend your selective emphasis a bit:
      Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry," the company said in a short statement.
      Does it look a little different now? I think we've all learned to never take the statements of a company under investigation at face value -- they've shareholders and executives to protect, after all.
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    6. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by toleraen · · Score: 1

      Except that you're comparing two companies that are structured in completely different ways. Sony has several divisions: games, music, movies, electronics, with a wide variety of products in each category. Cypress Semiconductor Corp makes....semiconducturs. It's all they do, that's what they're known for. The DOJ is going after Sony Electronics, which is sort of the "sub corporation" that makes the memory. They have nothing to do with "ridiculous PS3 prices" (did they get sued for this?), or the DRM fiasco (do you mean rootkit?). Bad press with batteries isn't going to make people stop buying sony branded music, or seeing sony branded movies. No one is going to look at this and go, "omg boycott sony!", and actually follow through with it. Sony is big enough to absorb the blows from minor news such as this.

      And I'm pretty sure Zonk is more biased against Sony than Microsoft is. I'm pretty sure that guy just looks around for bad sony news, even if it's meaningless (see this article).

    7. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Speare · · Score: 1

      I agree Sony's other problems add to this, but as for those questioning the "industry-wide" aspect of this news, consider this: it's not price-fixing if it's just one company involved. Seeing all the other price-fixing stories out of the semiconductor industry recently, of COURSE it's an industry-wide investigation.

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    8. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by OSS_ilation · · Score: 1

      Yup, the DOJ went industry wide with their search for wrongdoing and found that it was Sony that stunk the most.

    9. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well DUH. For price fixing to work it HAS to be industry wide. That doesn't mean that Sony's not in especial scrutiny or not suspected of being the prime mover behind the fix.

    10. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by MeanderingMind · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you, but the editors don't look for news. They only can post what other people submit. Zonk happens to be the editor who posts most of the stuff related to video games, which includes a lot of anti-Sony stuff.

      And also, it isn't meaningless. Even without the PS3, a huge company like Sony being investigated is news. They may just be another company in the queue, but that doesn't meant that it is insignificant.

      This investigation is poorly timed for Sony because they are already struggling against everything else that's gone wrong for them. Topping it off with a "Hey guys, guess what? We're next up for being investigated for price-fixing! Ain't that good news?" certainly doesn't help their position.

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    11. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by kabocox · · Score: 1

      In any case "everyone else was pricefixing too" (or whatever the charges, if any, turn out to be) is hardly likely to make the damage of this story go away. We've got ridiculous PS3 prices, the whole Sony DRM fiasco, the exploding laptop batteries, and now this. Even if this was an industry-wide problem, it's not like Cypress Semiconductor Corp has exactly had front-page news of any kind recently. This is like strike 4 for Sony, strike 1 for everyone else. The fact of the matter is that Sony is far, far more vulnerable to this press than another company due to both previous bad press and the vulnerable financial position they're in running up to the launch of the PS3.

      Yeah, but you got to think another 2-3 or 6-7 big headline news stories like this and how long will it take for people to just ignore most news about Sony? The sad thing is you'd have people still buying Sony products or ask just before they make the purchase, "Sony hasn't been in the news because of this product, have they?" before buying it.

    12. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 1

      Except that you're comparing two companies that are structured in completely different ways

      Do you really think that matters? I realize that Sony is a conglomerate of rather disparate companies - but so far it looks as though all have of them have been misbehaving. Furthermore, that's kind of the breaks of sharing a brand identity. You sink or swim together.

      Even though electronics has nothing to do with, say DRM, when either screws in an extremely public fashion up it's bad for the other. And when all the divisions (or several of them) start screwing up you start to ask questions about just how compartmentalized the company is: and whether it matters. If they're all bad independently they're still all bad.

      I realize I'm oversimplifying, but so will the market, the media, and the average consumer.

      -stormin

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    13. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 1

      You do have a point that if it's price fixing there's more than one company involved. For price-fixing to work you have to have collusion on a near-monopoly scale. That means you have to have enough market share to get a monopoly. It does not mean you need the entire industry - especially if you're counting by company as opposed to market share. One or two "giants" with 40% each of the market can collude, leaving a dozen small companies out in the cold. Furthermore, one company can shoulder more responsibility if they initiate/direct the collusion.

      Now I don't know anything about the SRAM industry. I don't know how much marketshare SONY has, how many companies there are, etc. And none of us know who - if anyone - initiated and directed the price-fixing. But it's a bit naive to assume that if price fixing was involved everyone was in on it. More than 1 - certainly (unless you're a monopoly), but everyone? Not necessarily.

      -stormin

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    14. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but you got to think another 2-3 or 6-7 big headline news stories like this and how long will it take for people to just ignore most news about Sony?

      I don't think it will work like that. Humans like narratives. We like good guys and bad guys. These news stories are definitely putting Sony more and more as "the bad guy" instead of "company with great products". Consumer anger, in my limited experience, works on a kind of tipping-point basis. No one really cares until it hits a point where it becomes, suddenly, an issue. Sony's DRM escapades would have been enough alone, I think to get them in serious trouble with the consumer if it weren't for the fact that it's a rather technical issue and the CDs effected weren't exactly #1 with the nerds (as though any major-label CDs could be). Still, it had an effect.

      I expect some real consumer backlash, especially when it comes to products that are extremely dependent on marketing: consoles. If the PS3 were the hottest thing since sliced bread (ugh, another awful business metaphor) they'd be fine, but with the PS3 already under serious criticism they really don't need to annoy their possible consumers. Angry consumers can do a lot of damage short of a boycott. Buying less, buying slower, buying later - any and all of these behaviors could really hurt Sony because they're so vulnerable right now.

      -stormin

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    15. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by feepness · · Score: 1

      Does it look a little different now? I think we've all learned to never take the statements of a company under investigation at face value -- they've shareholders and executives to protect, after all.

      Ok, how about taking the company statement with a teensy bit of logic:

      Either Sony fixed prices for all companies all by themselves, or the investigation does comprise a signifcant portion of the manufacturing base.

      My monkey brain selects number two. This knee-jerk Sony-bashing stuff is getting kind of weird.

    16. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1
      This knee-jerk Sony-bashing stuff is getting kind of weird.
      I don't think it's weird -- I think it's a natural reaction to the comedy of errors that is currently Sony. Sony has destroyed their brand reputation among a significant subset of their consumer base by shipping defective product, by attempting to cover that up, by shipping product with consumer-harming add-ons, by making poor management decisions, by making promises they can't keep... etc.

      Sure, some people take it a little far -- but it's Sony that has bashed themselves, others are just making note of it. I for one am refusing to purchase Sony products until I see evidence that they've cleaned up their act.
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    17. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not a troll.

      Who gave the retard mod points again?

      Something is not a troll, just because you disagree with it, ass!

    18. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >So the DOJ appears to be investigating every manufacturer, and there is no info even hinting that Sony did everything wrong.

      LOL

    19. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Ullteppe · · Score: 1
      So far, Cypress and Sony have officially said that they are being investigated. Makes sense that the other big players in the SRAM market will be investigated as well. If I remember correctly, four companies were implicated in the DRAM price fixing debacle. Makes sense that they check this out now, since there was price fixing in the DRAM market, and that this has happened before in the SRAM market as well.

      Anybody know if there has been price fixing in the NAND flash market as well?

    20. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I mean, who could possibly be more biased about the fate of Sony than Sony?"

      Who can know more about Sony than Sony?

    21. Re:Holy FUD Batman! by theStorminMormon · · Score: 1

      I see why you post as AC.

      -stormin

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  3. Next weeks news by Gerocrack · · Score: 1

    Soon we will learn that all VAIOs are made from the souls of slaughtered orphans.

    1. Re:Next weeks news by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      don't forget the display made from tortured kittens

    2. Re:Next weeks news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The sad thing is that not one of us would be surprised at the news.

    3. Re:Next weeks news by DrLazer · · Score: 2, Funny

      DVD+R is made of people!

      PEEEEEEEEEOPLE!

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    4. Re:Next weeks news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or batteries made from unexploded munitions

    5. Re:Next weeks news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on, they didn't use the *whole* orphan.

  4. Are you sure isn't not just by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...the author of TFA that's painting the ugly picture on this issue?

    "As the DOJ continues its investigation into RAM price fixing, it has started looking at Sony's operations."

    "'Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry,' the company said in a short statement."

    So in other words...

    DOJ: "Let's see... next on the list is... Sony, you're up."

    Greimel: "Lookit! Sony fucks up yet again, and then there's a PS3, and the 'sploding batteries, and Iwo Jima, and..."

    Really now, the majority of TFA seems to be about Sony's other fuck ups rather than any incriminating substance regarding the inquiry.

    1. Re:Are you sure isn't not just by CaptainZapp · · Score: 1
      Greimel: "Lookit! Sony fucks up yet again, and then there's a PS3, and the 'sploding batteries, and Iwo Jima, and..."

      You forgot the BMG-Sony rootkit.

      I really resented that.

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  5. Little do they know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    'Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry,' the company said in a short statement.

    The DOJ is expected to find that all evidence shows Sony to be innocent, all thanks to Anne in accounts who played a recent Celine Dion CD on her workstation.

  6. So..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean I can finally buy 256 of ram for less than $500 from them... whereas the DDR counterpart is like 40 bucks...

  7. Try again by slicknick1986 · · Score: 1

    Nice try, Zonk. Nothing to see here, move along.

    1. Re:Try again by OakDragon · · Score: 1
      Nothing to see here, move along.

      Can I modify my /. settings to auto-post this for every new story? :)

      (I am not making a statement about the quality of the stories; I am making a statement about how often I've seen this lately.)

  8. DOJ looking at sony's static ram dealings? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Wow static ram.. is that still around and used by someone?

    1. Re:DOJ looking at sony's static ram dealings? by spun · · Score: 1

      CPU Cache. Router buffers. CMOS RAM. Hard disk buffers. CD and DVD drive buffers. Static RAM is used anyplace where speed or low power consumption are important. Slow static RAM uses less power than DRAM, while fast static RAM is much faster than DRAM.

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    2. Re:DOJ looking at sony's static ram dealings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you an idiot? Do you even know what static ram is? Why don't you do some research before you open your mouth and realize that static ram is what your computer's cache is made out of and is critical to the operation of all major CPUs, particularly the latest greatest ones with their larger L2 caches.

      For those who don't know, static ram is a type of ram composed of six transistors per bit. It is many times faster than dynamic ram which is what you use for your "memory" in your computer. That is composed of a transistor and a capacitor per bit and is much cheaper, but it is much slower and has to constantly be polled (hense dynamic) while static ram just requires power to be applied to stay on (hense static). Static ram is not the same as SDRAM. SDRAM is infact dynamic ram.

    3. Re:DOJ looking at sony's static ram dealings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow static ram.. is that still around

      It's not going anywhere - it's static.

  9. hmm by Leviance · · Score: 1

    just another sign the God wants the PS3 to fail and the evil mother company perish.

    1. Re:hmm by gamer4Life · · Score: 1

      If that were the case, the XBox and the XBox 360 would have failed long time ago ;)

  10. soon to be followed by... by grapeape · · Score: 1

    Investigations into the Blue Laser shortage. Seriously though, what the heck is going on at Sony, first its the Batteries, then the "laser shortage" and overpriced console, now its price fixing? When I was a kid sony stood for unequaled quality and innovation, now it seems to stands for "might last until the warranty expires, if your lucky". What has changed?

    1. Re:soon to be followed by... by Kingrames · · Score: 1

      So in other words...

      "Say it ain't so, Blu-Ray... Say it ain't so!"

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    2. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Don't forget the Sony CCD sensor recall which affected almost 190 digital camera and camcorder models from eight manufacturers, as well as certain other products such as PDAs with built-in digicams.

    3. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like something out of a horrible Star Trek episode.

      "Keptin, ve don't have enoff lazers!"

    4. Re:soon to be followed by... by j79zlr · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that be "might last until just before the warranty expires, if you're lucky."

      I don't find myself all that lucky when something dies right AFTER the warranty expires.

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    5. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've changed. You've become a Microsoft fanboy, that's what.

      Honestly, the reasons you state are ridiculous. "Overpriced" console...hardly.. it costs way more to manufacture, and it has better value than an XBox 360. Laser shortage? Is that any indication of quality? Perhaps their standard of quality is so good that they don't accept substandard lasers.

      Microsoft is getting into your head, that's what.

    6. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was a kid sony stood for unequaled quality and innovation, now it seems to stands for "might last until the warranty expires, if your lucky". What has changed?

      Funny how my PS2 from 2001 which has been used as the only DVD player I have and as my primary game console is still working without a problem. I didn't know the warranty lasted 5 years? Oh wait, it doesn't you were just being an ass. My bad.

    7. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony still makes the best LCD TV's bar none. Despite all the negative hype (I guess the Microsoft-is-evil and IBM-is-evil meme's got too boring) Sony still makes excellent products.

    8. Re:soon to be followed by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What has changed?

      Well, Sony was created by 4 engineers.
      Then there was the first CEO who was not an engineer (1993)
      Now if I'm not mistaken they have the first CEO who's not japanese and not an engineer (a English guy with a master in Arts I believe? Like in Dilbert...)

      'should have bought some 'puts'

    9. Re:soon to be followed by... by MeanderingMind · · Score: 1

      If it costs me $100 to make a single paper napkin and I charge you $10 for it, is it overpriced?

      Overpriced is difficult to define. For the grandparent the PS3 is overpriced. The PS3 isn't worth $500-600 to him regardless of how much it cost to make.

      The point my initial hypothetical question makes is that no one in normal circumstances would pay $10 for a paper napkin. Paper napkins aren't that expensive! To many people the PS3 is in a similar boat. Consoles aren't normally priced so high even at launch. To many, it is overpriced for what they want to do with it. They aren't looking for a media center, a PC, or a Blu-ray player. They want to play MGS4 or FF13. The PS3 is a little pricy even for people used to spending $300-$400 dollars at launch.

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    10. Re:soon to be followed by... by grapeape · · Score: 1

      wow that would be a meaningful reply if I owned an xbox or an xbox360 but currently all I have is a PS2 (my second one...the first one died) and a Gamecube...try again.

    11. Re:soon to be followed by... by grapeape · · Score: 1

      Your very lucky, I have a dell laptop that didnt explode in the nearly two years I've owned it to, but I still sent the battery back. I've gone through 2 ps2's the one have now is flakey (reads disks most of the time, sometimes the lights on the front just flash, have no idea what thats all about). I never said all sony products will die on you it just seems their quality control has gone to crap, like most everyone else's.

  11. I'm sure price-fixing is industry-wide by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "As the DOJ continues its investigation into RAM price fixing, it has started looking at Sony's operations."
    "'Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry,' the company said in a short statement."
    So in other words...
    DOJ: "Let's see... next on the list is... Sony, you're up."
    Well, how could a price-fixing inquiry NOT be industry-wide? The whole mechansim of price-fixing is that you get everyone in the industry to set prices at an artificially high level. Any industry member who didn't participate would break the scheme, as long as they had the production capacity.

    So, when people say that Sony isn't being singled out, that they're just one of many... that's exactly the point of the investigation.
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    1. Re:I'm sure price-fixing is industry-wide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So, when people say that Sony isn't being singled out, that they're just one of many... that's exactly the point of the investigation.

      Yes! You've made step one. You've correctly noted that Sony are not being singled out by the DOJ.

      Now see if you can just make step two, Sony IS being singled out by Zonk. Read the headline carefully. Count the number of companies referred to. Count them again. Concentrate. Is there only one? Is it Sony?

      Final step, the hard one, simultaneously hold in your mind the results of step 1 (Sony not singled out by DOJ) and step 2 (the posting does single out Sony). Concentrate. Think hard. Focus. See what people are saying yet? No? Try again. Concentrate.
    2. Re:I'm sure price-fixing is industry-wide by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Well, first, if you're going to post like such an ass, you should at least have the cojones to not post as AC.

      Second, did you read the article? Was the article not specifically about the DOJ's initiation of investigations into Sony Electronics? Did the article even give more than a passing nod to other companies that the DOJ is currently investigating? Did you even RTFA?

      Why are YOU upset that the summary reflects the article? Just because the focus of the article happens to be Sony? Or because you enjoy hopping on the anti-Zonk bandwagon?

      Here, try something that may be beyond your intellect:

      1. Read the summary.
      2. RTFA.
      3. Does TFS reflect TFA? If not, go ahead and criticize. If so, shut your piehole.

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    3. Re:I'm sure price-fixing is industry-wide by dorianh49 · · Score: 1

      I could be wrong, but I thought that this particular industry-wide RAM pricefixing started with Micron convincing the other memory makers to stifle Rambus by artificially DEFLATING SDRAM prices. Once Rambus was out of the picture, they started raising prices beyond the stratosphere and blamed it on a tsunami in Asia somewhere.

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    4. Re:I'm sure price-fixing is industry-wide by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      IIRC, you're absolutely right. Either way, though, it requires collusion to set the price at an artificial level in order to derive some non-competitive advantage (in this case, to drive Rambus OOB).

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  12. Go Get Em! by jmagar.com · · Score: 1

    After their rootkits on CD's I'm surprised that the DOJ hasn't been chasing these guys more aggresively.

  13. Not the first news of SRAM price fixing .. by djtachyon · · Score: 1

    IIRC, there have been lots of articles talking about industry-wide price fixing of SRAM. Many companies actually admitted to doing so, especially in the late 90's. Just glance at the related stories.

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  14. Some questions to think about. by edusmoreira · · Score: 1

    Well, but isn't feasibility of imports a mitigating factor when looking for collusion evidence? I mean, is it possible to fix prices for SRAM, given its low degree of differentiation? Is the distribution channels and contracts with OEMs such a bottleneck in the downstream?

    1. Re:Some questions to think about. by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      Collusion to fix prices is only really possible in the situation you describe: the product is a commodity. If producers can differentiate their product on something other than price - quality, location, etc - and charge more for it than the comparable products, then there is no incentive for that producer to join a price fixing scheme. But when products are a commodity, there is nowher to compete BUT on price. Hence, producers get together and artificially set the price higher than it would otherwise be, so as to increase profits for all producers.

      See the DeBeers cartel for an example.

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  15. static? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

    Static RAM? COME ON, SLASHDOT! You aren't even trying anymore!

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    1. Re:static? by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1
      What's wrong with static RAM?

      From wikipedia:
      SRAM is faster than DRAM and is used where speed is the prime requirement such as in CPU caches and router buffers. It is also used for external caches, DRAM burst circuits and in its dual-ported form for digital signal processing circuits. Modern FPGAs contain significant amounts of embedded SRAM.

      Slow, low-capacity SRAMs are used where low power consumption and low cost are the most important requirements, as in battery-powered backup RAM. SRAM is less dense than DRAM, due to a more complex internal structure, it is therefore not suitable for high-capacity, low-cost applications such as PC memory.

      The power consumption of SRAM varies widely depending on clock speed. Fast SRAM is much more power-hungry than DRAM, and some ICs can consume many watts at full speed. Slow SRAM, such as the battery-powered "CMOS" RAM on PC motherboards, can have a very low power consumption, in the region of a microwatt when sitting idle.

      Hobbyists have often preferred using SRAM instead of DRAM, due to the ease of interfacing. SRAM is significantly easier to work with and faster to implement than DRAM. There are no refresh cycles, as required with DRAM. The address and data buses are usually fully accessible, rather than multiplexed. SRAM circuits usually require only power, ground, address/data, and three controls: Chip enable (CE), Write enable (WE) and Output enable (OE).

      Small SRAM buffers are commonly found in hard disk, CDROM and CDRW drives, even in mini disc recorders. Usually 64 to 256 kbyte (and more), they buffer track data, which is transferred in chunks instead of direct byte writes. SRAM is both fast to access, and easy to control by a microprocessor (CPU).
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    2. Re:static? by kckman · · Score: 1

      "Their", as in "Their time is valuable." "There" as in "There is a bear there" "They're" as in "They're running out of time" Before criticizing someone's grammar, be sure that your own is correct.

    3. Re:static? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1
      It makes no since that people spend there time studying English, sense its clear their not learning they're own language
      "Their", as in "Their time is valuable." "There" as in "There is a bear there" "They're" as in "They're running out of time" Before criticizing someone's grammar, be sure that your own is correct.

      woooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!!

      Also, you missed "sense" and "it's." You completely fail at naziism.
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  16. Couldn't come at a worse time? by curecollector · · Score: 1

    With all the negative press Sony has been getting, this couldn't come at a worse time

    Or couldn't come at a better time.

  17. Re:Oh No! by Svet-Am · · Score: 2, Funny

    man, that would've been a good name for the Lewinsky scandal...

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  18. Price fixing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anybody understand what 'price fixing' is? Like if I refuse to work for less then 50$/hour, am I price fixing? If a lot of us refuses, is it price fixing? If my baker tells me he won't sell me bread for less then 100$/loaf is it price fixing? If he sets ('fixes') the price to 1$ is it price-fixing? Don't you think that when you mark goods with a price-tag, it's actually....fixing the price?

  19. Hands Up by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

    If anybody thinks this will amount to much, really?
    "You there, at the back, you have your hand up, no? Oh it's your hat, sorry my bad."

  20. thank you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you dislodged my blinders a bit.

    What's the price of freedom? It's the hard work and vigiliance required to not let it slip away. Be careful in what you trust; be careful not to lose all trust.

    Trust a company to want to survive above all else.
    Trust a politician or CEO to want power above all else.

  21. The completely toothless DOJ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... which *convicted* Microsoft and still wasn't able to get any meaningful penalty - you expect them to have any effect on Sony? Yeah, right.

  22. Relax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know why anyone cares, they'll only have a few at launch. I mean you won't even see it on the shelf until--

    I'm sorry, what did you say? RAM? You mean they make something else?

  23. FUD or Spin or Just BS? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    >>"Sony intends to cooperate fully with the DOJ in what appears to be an industrywide inquiry," the company said in a short statement. (Emphasis mine).
    >So the DOJ appears to be investigating every manufacturer, and there is no info even hinting that Sony did everything wrong.

    So, you feel that Sony's spin on this is highly credible? It also seems to me that allegations of price fixing might involve more than one company in an industry, since it would be pretty hard for a single company to fix prices without collusion from their ostensible competitors.
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  24. Massive damage by OSS_ilation · · Score: 1

    That's all; just a Sony-coined phrase that has literally come full circle to describe the very company that used it to begin with.

  25. I Feel Kind of Bad by MrCrassic · · Score: 1

    Even though recently Sony has been making a lot of fudge-ups and bad press, I kind of feel bad that Sony's having to deal with this now. This is the company that fought for better quality video, made portable audio a lifestyle, and innovated/invented several concepts that we could not live without. My family and I trusted the Sony brand for years, and it will be sad to see them getting closer and closer to another great example of a management failure in our business classes.

    1. Re:I Feel Kind of Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A company cannot rest on it's laurels and profit while doing terrible business unless you feel bad for them because you enjoyed said laurels.

  26. oh know, only $673 million in profits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    poor poor sony.

  27. Tongue? Cheek? by splutty · · Score: 1

    I think you completely missed the humour in that signature :)

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    1. Re:Tongue? Cheek? by kckman · · Score: 1

      Irony is best served with an LOL or ROTFLMAO. Sometimes I can't wrap my brain around grammar as humor. Thanks for the heads up

  28. Re:Oh No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was going to suggest "RAMpage", but that one was taken by Foley

  29. Microsoft lobbyists in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, SCO is behind this.

  30. Sony not corrupt enough ... yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This just means that Sony hasn't bribed, err, contributed to the campaigns of enough power and money-grubbing slimebuckets, err, politicians yet. I think there's enough brainpower left at Sony to follow the Microsoft model of buying your way out of political trouble. Just give them some time.

  31. You know what is even sadder then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...People still buying Sony products or ask[ing] just before they make the purchase...?
    Is the crap people like you and others online are spewing.

  32. Re:Oh No! by trupoet · · Score: 0

    Hrm I'll have to retreat to my RAMparts to RAMp up on the RAMifications of this.

    But don't let me RAMble and don't worry I wont run RAMpant with it.

  33. The downside to being a conglomerate by tepples · · Score: 1
    Except that you're comparing two companies that are structured in completely different ways. Sony has several divisions: games, music, movies, electronics, with a wide variety of products in each category. Cypress Semiconductor Corp makes....semiconducturs. It's all they do, that's what they're known for.

    This is one of the downsides to being a conglomerate. Perhaps the bad press about Sony combined with loss of market share across the board might encourage other companies not to overdiversify.

    Bad press with batteries isn't going to make people stop buying sony branded music, or seeing sony branded movies.

    Even if not, it will sure keep them from buying a Sony portable CD or DVD player to play them on, or a Sony PLAYSTATION 3 console with the SIXAXIS controller powered by a Sony rechargeable battery.