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Can the Web Survive v3.0
robotsrule writes "The battle lines between skeptic and evangelist are already drawn. Either way, Web 3.0 will either be the new face of the Web that launched a thousand empty business plans, or the tipping point into a vastly more exciting phase of the Web. This Web 3.0 article asserts that the marraige of artificial intelligence to the infrastructure of Web 3.0 will dramatically accelerate our capacity for distributed problem solving. However, it also issues dire warnings on the potential hyper-euphoria that will accompany it."
Well, Web 2.0 Journal is already reporting that it's been "a couple of crazy days in the Blogosphere," but clearly that will be just a ripple compared to the tsunami that this article is certain to unleash. In the month that the Web turned sweet sixteen it is almost obscene to think that anyone should be deluded into thinking that a phenomenon this young could possibly already be moving into its third era. From childhood to le troisième âge, with no adolescence or even middle age. Please, let's bury "Web 3.0...now!
I'm actually surprised to see this on slashdot. "Web 2.0" is a useless buzzword that only gets used by marketters and other clueless internet users who think they're talking about something that actually exists. The web doesn't have versions, why is anyone refering to it as 2.0? The web undergoes evolution and there is no difinable differences between 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 so why is anyone using this ridiculous buzzwords?
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If we ever want a good web, the current mentality must be disposed of..
The web today is built on transferring documents and everything else is a hack on that...we need something more unified, easier to code...something that will put the client and server side together in an intuitive way, not the AJAX crap flying around ATM...
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I just dont get this ! its like someone built and people used web 2.0, and there is now talk of web 3.0
I dont see anyone around much web 2.0 ? i myself scarcely chance on sites that use this so-called web 2.0 stuff, let the clients who us ask for such 'web 2.0'ish developments are rapidly declining too.
what i am starting to think is these web 2.0, 3.0 shit are just buzzwords invented to sell more books, courses, certificates and such to the interested community.
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We barely need Web 2.0!
We have one?
Seriously, I never even noticed this supposed Web 2.0. Who decides these arbitrary numbers for a continuous process?
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Who the fuck came up with Web 2.0? I've never heard any mention of it except for articles off Slashdot. I refuse to acknowledge Web 2.0, or versioning the World Wide Web in general. As far as I can say, Web 2.0 (and now 3.0) is a way for struggling tech writers to have something to write about. The web's not the sort of thing you can assign a version number to. It evolves, but not in such a precise fashion. Tech writers: find a new topic that is meaningful. Here's a free one, encryption. Go!
"hyper-euphoria" == "investor ignorance"
... and were emptied.
Every time something big comes along a bunch of idiots with money say "I have a great idea! Let's give a bunch of buzzword-laden high-school dropouts billions of dollars of our hard-earned money in the faint hope they have the slightest idea what they're talking about!". This invariably attracts millions of additional idiots, who cry "Brilliant!" in unison, and proceed to hand over all of their disposable income. In rare cases that works, somewhat (see: Apple Computer) but in most it simply results in vast funds disappearing like smoke up a chimney.
Of course, the aforementioned idiots are the first to point fingers and start shouting "fraud" and saying things like "how could anyone have known?" when the whole scam comes tumbling down and they're in debt up to their iBalls. Or maybe it wasn't a scam, but just a really stupid idea that didn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of ever earning a profit. Yes, I know, sometimes stupid-sounding ideas do pan out (see: Fed Ex) but it's not common.
One may call this phenomenon a "tech bubble" if that eases the pain, but it's still another euphemism. Ultimately it is greed and stupidity at work, in roughly equal proportions, tempered by a complete lack of judgment. One aspect of the human mass-psyche that desperately needs work is this: just because a bunch of other people are doing something stupid is no reason to jump in yourself. It's still stupid.
I prefer to think of it as if millions of checking accounts suddenly cried out in pain
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
"Web 2.0" == Bubble 2.0
It's a way for people to score some easy money off investors that have short memories when it comes to hype about the internet.
Web 3.0? That's a word that people started using because they wanted be the first using it, even though it means nothing. At least there is some description of "Web 2.0", albeit vague and rather silly. Web 3.0 can't even say that much.
seems kinda like the pot calling the kettle black
'web 1.0 - the basic 'web. You click on a link and you read the page.
/.)
... ? What's next? Almost everyone is online socially and professionally. They can do just about everything online that they do in real life. Aside from the direct neural interfaces and "consensual reality", what is left? And who is left off-line who would need to get online to do it?
'web 1.5 - the basic 'web + databases. You can post your comments to someone else's web site. (yay
'web 2.0 - online sales. Amazon.com, eBay.com, PayPal.com, etc. The drive was to get out of the "brick and mortar" business model and get online.
'web 2.5 - because personal selling such as eBay could be considered a step above corporate selling such as Amazon.
'web 3.0 - LiveJournal, MySpace, etc. The drive to get your diary online. Pages for everyone, without the need to maintain your own website. The 'web is opened up to the angst-ridden ravings of hundreds of thousands of teenagers (and people who are still, emotionally, teenagers).
'web 4.0 -
I don't think the applications the author is talking about are really valid. They're much more easily addressed by simply chatting with the people you'd already talk to, and you're probably already chatting with them online anyway.
Web 2.0 is considered to have begun with the introduction of XMLHttpRequest and Dynamic HTML. Their introduction in IE 5 was a discrete event.
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True, the Web was a bubble, but that was then, this is now. This is totally different. You see, there's been a paradigm shift. The old fogeys who just don't "get it" are going to be left in the dust, but you, you can be in on the ground floor. This bubble is going to expand forever.
Benjamin... pssst... just two words: "Web 3.0."
(And if that doesn't work, I have an incredible deal involving arbitraging international postal reply coupons).
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