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Wii Launches, Sells Out Peacefully

porcupine8 writes "Like the Playstation 3, the Nintendo Wii sold out on launch day this weekend. Unlike the PS3, the launch was a peaceful affair with no reports yet of console-related violence in the US. This may be partially due to the fact that Nintendo promises to have a total of four million units in stores by Christmas, with the bulk of those going to North America. Midnight launch parties on both the east and west coasts ushered the new console in with a bang." Please, if you've managed to snag a Wii yourself, share your opinions below! Update: 11/20 17:25 GMT by Z : A few quick impressions from 24 hours of owning a Wii, and some links on the subject if you Read More. All I have to say so far is pretty positive. I snagged Rayman Raving Rabbids, Zelda, and (on a lark) Red Steel. I haven't had the heart to play Red Steel yet, but Rayman is a great, quirky mini-game game. I think this format is going to be pretty common for the Wii, and I'm actually looking forward to it. Zelda is ... Zelda. I really, really like it, but if you're getting tired of the same old thing you're going to be disappointed. My big complaint is the glacially slow internet connection. I have never owned a Genesis, and so wanted to snag Sonic for some cheap laughs. Purchasing Wii points took about half an hour, and I never actually managed to download the game (despite having paid for it). I'm hoping that today, with less hammering on the servers, I'll have more luck. Expect a more complete review next week. In the mean time, Chris Kohler at Game|Life has had a Wii since last week, and has some considered opinions on its launch issues, and a bit more specifically on virtual console problems.

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  1. Re:That just means... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That Wii gamers are peace-loving pansies, and PS3 users are bad-ass tough guys.
    Or that Nintendo made a console that can sell itself and doesn't need to be hyped by limiting supply to increase demand.

    you know... whichever you prefer.
  2. Why a Christmas Launch? by stealie72 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Nintendo really can have 4 million Wiis in stores by christmas, a late november launch makes sense, but in the case of the PS3, why did they release this late when they know full well they won't even begin to meet demand for christmas?

    Christmas buyers aren't your hard core fanboys who will wait in line to buy the thing, so why not launch it in the summer, get the fanboys set, then work hard to produce enough of your system to keep in in stock for christmas buyers (you know, like MS did). Sony made a major error here, in that lots moms and dads buying the system for their kids are going to wait a full year till next christmas to do so. Meanwhile, Nintendo has Wiis in stock, for 1/2 the price, ready to be snatched up by Santa.

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  3. Wiilief by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm just glad to see some positive press coverage of gaming for once. In terms of friendliness, camaraderie, and just plain fun, the Wii launch stood in stark contrast to the PS3 debacle. I commented some time ago in a thread that I'm a fairly hardcore PC gamer but the Wii was enough to make me consider a foray into console gaming. This launch has only solidified that temptation.

    Good work, Nintendo

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  4. Of course "day 1" is a sellout... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course "day 1" is a sellout...this is one of the oldest marketing tricks in the book.

    If they made 1M units available on day 1 and only 50% sold, the headline would be: "Plenty of Product X left after first day (expect discounts soon)"

    However, when they make 100K units available on day 1 and all sell in a few hours, the headline is "Product X sells out first day (don't expect a discount soon)"

    The whole point is to create a buyers frenzy and match it with artificial supply constraints to ensure everyone pays full price or more, all while getting free press from Slashdot and other media whores with lazy editors...

    1. Re:Of course "day 1" is a sellout... by OS24Ever · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe that's the geniuses at Sony's marketing but it doesn't seem to be the same for Nintendo. I have a nasty flu bug/cold bug and wasn't about to camp out overnight in sub 40 degree weather. Then to top it off my youngest child decided to wake up at 11PM and stay up until about 4AM so I was in no mood to wander over to the nearest target that was selling at 8AM Sunday morning.

      We figured the 36 they told us they'd have would be out of stock shortly, and they were. They told us they had 36 of them and 40 people were camped out front here in Wake Forest, NC.

      They also told us that they will be getting bi-weekly shipments of 'at least a dozen' from now until after Christmas. I had my wife call and she said the guy laughed and said 'good luck though if you want a PS3, nothing like that is coming'. It seems to me that Nintendo did a huge build as much as they could, shipped them, and then is going to keep the pipe full from now until the end of the year.

      Meanwhile PS3 blew their wad quickly, and is going to take months to recover.

      Also speaking as someone who is in product marketing as my day job I can tell you that personally I've never twirled my mustache points thinking 'ooh, let's make one and that'll drive up demand' because people can/do find something 'good enough' to take its place and loosing to THAT kind of a sale sucks more because you've just collapsed your market onto a competitors product. This is my personal opinion at least, maybe there's a secret club of people that do that but not at my level.

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  5. Re:Resell by jimstapleton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought Nintendo was taking a profit on the Wii while Sony was taking a loss on the PS3... So that would mean Nintendo needs to sell one to beat Sony, it Sony sells none, and doesn't need to sell any if Sony sells one.

    That is if you ignore the profit from game sales, and look only at console sales.

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  6. Craigslist by British · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Checking craigslist(Minneapolis), the average Wii console sale price(typically + 1 game) is around $400-450. yes, the jacked-up prices for a Wii are LESS than the street price for the premium PS3.

    Strange, no?

    My favorite sales pitch on craigslist was the person who said they "needed" to unload their PS3, for $1500. Perhaps they shouldn't have bought it 2 days prior for $700, no? I also saw one ad who wanted to sell their PS3 for college books, tuition,etc. Of course, it was for a 4-figure amount. But if you are a broke college student, you shoulnd't be shelling out $700 for a get rich quick scheme.

  7. Parasites by metamatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope the speculators get stuck with consoles they can't shift. I have plenty of money, but I'm not buying from a speculator. I'll just wait.

    It's like domain name parasites. Don't feed them, people, you're only making the problem worse.

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  8. "Camping" out by bilbravo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Best Buys had over 100... I planned on going around 3am, but a friend called and said over 100 people were in line at midnight.

    Went to a Circuit City that had 15, only 4 people in line when I got there at 2am. They handed out vouchers at 7am. Was surprised at the influx of people around 6am. Almost felt bad for the parents who showed up at 10am when the store opened, but yet I didn't. I braved the cold, and had fun with some other fans all the same.

    Relatively little commotion, some people were upset... the employees had a meeting before the store opened and a lot left with empty display boxes, but did it obviously to incite some sort of "envy". A guy in line was friends with all the employees and he told me that they had empty boxes. Seems ridiculous that the manager would allow this.

    At any rate, love the Wii... worth the wait.

  9. Re:Wii Launch Not Going Very Well by illegalcortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Playing devils advocate here (my Wii is doing just fine):

    These days, the only place you'll hear about problems, if they exist, are in web forums. Eventually, you'll get news reports whose source is actually the web forums. Then you'll get anecdotal stories from people who are actually well-known (game reporters, bloggers, Penny Arcade, etc.), which is just as bad as web forums. And if you're lucky, eventually eventually eventually the company will admit there is a problem. But only after tons of people have posted to tons of forums and the news sites pick it up. Even then it's not likely. That's how it has been with problems with just about every console since about the PS1.

    So, while I have no reason to think there are widespread problems yet, I wouldn't write it off because it came from a forum. I just don't know where else you'd be expected to get the reports. It's not like CNN has a test lab of Wiis or something.

  10. Re:xkcd == pure genius by gatesvp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been saying exactly this (minus the pics) for months now. It's good to hear it from someone else.

    This concept of "console sell-out = good thing", just doesn't ring true with me. My little bro had a pre-ordered 360 for last x-mas, but didn't get it until February. B/c we knew he wouldn't have it, nobody bought him the standard set of accessory gifts (controller, Live subscription, games), so for two months MS lost this potential income as it was spent elsewhere.

    I don't know where the pro MS marketers got their ideas, but most people I know, but things in small bursts. Once the console is paid off, they'll buy a controller one month then a game here and a game there. I know very few, if any, people who will hold money in some sort of "personal x-box account" waiting for their next big spend. If there's no x-box accessory, the money just gets spent elsewhere (nice dinner, night at the movies, computer accessory,...)

    I'm probably a rare case, but I didn't buy an XBox 360 b/c I couldn't buy one. It was late January, I'd been interested in owning one for 3+ months, but nobody had any in stock. My local outlets were still filling pre-orders taken in November. So I took the money and spent it elsewhere (bunch of Magic cards). I still don't own a 360, but I'm not unhappy playing my Dance Dance and Karaoke Revolutions (given that penchant, I'll probably end up with a Wii).

    Point is, MS lots tons of "opportunity buys". The console is the biggest barrier to entry, yet the games/accessories are the largest source of profit. If people can't buy a console (even with money in hand), then you've erected an infinite barrier to entry. Inability to buy a console bottlenecks the whole chain from the very beginning. Nintendo obviously has the right strategy here, they sound like the stock to own.

  11. Re:That just means... by Fozzyuw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmmm... this system is still very expensive for me...

    $250 - console
    $49.99 (4) - games
    $39.99 (3) - Wii Remotes
    $19.99 (1) - nunchuck (still trying to find 2 more)
    $19.99 (2) - classic controller (still haven't arrived at our GameStop oddly enough)
    $39.99 - 2gb SD card (Haven't ordered quite yet)
    $20.00 - Wii Points (to purchase Zelda, and have a few floating around for an impulse purchase)

    ===

    $660 - $740 (if you count the 2 Nunchucks and SD I still need/want to buy)

    Of course, I also had this...
    ~$210 - trade-in for games

    Still a lot of money. Though, I'm sure the PS3 will end up even worse when you break it down like above, since their games list price are higher along with the console.

    Cheers,
    Fozzy

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  12. Re: Nintendo Games out sell the competition... by trdrstv · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Nintendo's premier games normally sell in the same quantity (or higher) than Sony and Microsoft's top games do. not sure how Mario Sunshine vs. Halo worked out...

    I do. Super Mario Sunshine sold less copies than Halo, however... Nintendogs outsold Halo 2 and almost every entry of Pokemon outsold GTA.

  13. Re:Resell by Disseminated · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah. While it seems pretty evident that Nintendo is crazy trouncing Sony at the launch point, it's entirely feasible about a year (IF PS3 gets the games) that Sony will once again be dominating the market. Sony's still taking a huuuuge gamble at this point though, because if they don't get the games that make the uber-system worthwhile they're nothing but toast in a year. And this is my first /. post. Yay me! ;-}

  14. Re:Resell by c00rdb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not really, because you know it does cost money to make the systems regardless of a profit or loss. Unsold Wii = -$200, Unsold PS3 = -$850. However Nintendo produced much more as everyone has been so quick to point out. Your hypothetical point is wrong.