But what's the alternative? In this sense capitalism isn't so much a "kind of thinking" as it is a force of nature. I'll agree with you that WE, the idiot masses, aren't naturally selecting news that's "good for us" over sensationalist crap, but what's the alternative? If you say the problem is that WE are picking our programing then do you suggest the alternative must be regulation by some outside party? But, there is no outside party! If the masses don't get to choose what they get, then they get what some individual chooses for them. What makes that individual qualified?
No, I think the only alternative is to do what the GP suggested and keep our inlfuence as consumers of the media and just USE IT. Of course natural selection is hard to utilize when there are about 5 TOTAL corporate sources disseminating all those hundreds of channels, newspapers, magazines, movies, and music into our lives. That's where we need to flex our populous might, but it's just another problem aided by our willing complacency.
Thanks for the response, my questions are sincere tho I can understand they might not necessarily be seen as such.
Ok so... The politician was publicly satirized and responds publicly. The child was mocked/tormented/whatever by the bully "publicly" (i.e. in front of all the other kids) what stops him from responding on the same stage that the bully operated on? Sure he won't have a "press conference" but can he not still stand up for himself and make a public showing to counter the bully's acts?
It seems apparent then that the difference between the kid and the politician is that the politician was by choice a public figure before the "bullying" whereas the kid could have been FORCED by the bully into the public eye. So it seems to me not so much that the kid was bullied (since he still CAN defend himself) it's that the bully has forced him into an arena that he didn't want to be in.
If the kid likes to operate in the public eye anyway then there is no problem IMO. But if he doesn't, I think this is where the issue that may or may not need addressing lies. So then, I say we need to ask what measures help a kid who wants to just be left alone? How much of a right does the kid even have to just being left alone? How practical is it in real life to expect to be just left alone?
What exactly do you mean by someone being or not being able to defend themselves in the distinction you make? What means does the politician have to defend himself from satire that the schoolchild does not? What has deprived the schoolchild of these means? Why can they not be granted to the schoolchild?
For all intensive purposes your wright. Its to bad I don't have no mod point's but if I did I would of. Irregardless, you'r point is much more affective then the usual drivel around hear.
I don't disagree, but what's the difference between lazy/delusional kids at a tech school and all the lazy/delusional kids going to a regular university because they've had it drilled into them to "just get a degree, ANY degree, if you want a decent job"?
The only God that can't be disproved is one that constantly morphs in the face of criticism.
Any time someone tries to define exactly what their God is, and what it can do, I can provide a sound argument against the possibility of its existence.
I'd like a ticket for this ride!;-}
My God is the entirety of existence with space, time, energy, matter, our own free will, and other as-yet-undescribed-by-man properties being it's components and qualities; and its purpose (as best as any individual human can comprehend) is simply to be. Our lives are simultaneously the experiencing of, and playing out, of God's plan. My God is not a conscious persona as we understand ourselves to be, however (as previously stated) we conscious personas are an aspect of God.
"What IS real? If by real you mean what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain" --Morpheus.;-}
Just wanted to say "ditto"!;-} After they reduced my rate I figured I'd go ahead and upgrade since I was thinking about it anyway and then they went and emailed me that little nicety. Then they lowered the price on my upgraded plan.
Blockbuster does have a good thing going by letting you return/rent at the store, but Netflix is keeping me as a customer because of its service and selection.
After falling deeply madly in love with SSX3, I thought dnL soda and the Honda Element were pretty cool things.
Not to mention the many albums from Astralwerks artists that I've bought as a DIRECT result of that game... tho that might be a seperate issue.;-} I got to sample and enjoy that particular product integrated in the game as the soundtrack, rather than just obtusely associated via in-game advertisement.
No one should settle for a shitty job out of desperation. SETTLE- as in staying there. All I'm saying is folks should actually try to achieve what they want even if the odds are against them. And further more the consumer is under no responsibility to subsidize their employment in a shitty job, counter to the parent's insinuated claim. (yeah raging communist propoganda, I know. Oh wait, no, it'd be the COMPLETE OPPOSITE instead.:rolleyes:)
I explained it poorly and the Trolls feasted on my bones. Live and learn.
Thank you, CiderJack, for helping drive me actually to the point.;-}
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At most, you could collect as much energy as the sun has.
[chance + your actions + the actions of others] > [your actions]
Yes?
God mode doesn't work in Nightmare. ;-}
Pfft! Everyone around here is a jerk! You... me... this jerk...
But what's the alternative? In this sense capitalism isn't so much a "kind of thinking" as it is a force of nature. I'll agree with you that WE, the idiot masses, aren't naturally selecting news that's "good for us" over sensationalist crap, but what's the alternative? If you say the problem is that WE are picking our programing then do you suggest the alternative must be regulation by some outside party? But, there is no outside party! If the masses don't get to choose what they get, then they get what some individual chooses for them. What makes that individual qualified?
No, I think the only alternative is to do what the GP suggested and keep our inlfuence as consumers of the media and just USE IT. Of course natural selection is hard to utilize when there are about 5 TOTAL corporate sources disseminating all those hundreds of channels, newspapers, magazines, movies, and music into our lives. That's where we need to flex our populous might, but it's just another problem aided by our willing complacency.
Well that sure beats the hell out of a car analogy!
He didn't pluralize "intro", he abbreviated "introductions".
...measuring the mass of the universe when we still don't know how many angels can fit on the head of a pin? :o
That's what I thought to. But I didn't pre-order and I got it /shrug.
Bonus!
They took time away from orking a cow to bitch at you? zomg! :o
Thanks for the response, my questions are sincere tho I can understand they might not necessarily be seen as such.
Ok so... The politician was publicly satirized and responds publicly. The child was mocked/tormented/whatever by the bully "publicly" (i.e. in front of all the other kids) what stops him from responding on the same stage that the bully operated on? Sure he won't have a "press conference" but can he not still stand up for himself and make a public showing to counter the bully's acts?
It seems apparent then that the difference between the kid and the politician is that the politician was by choice a public figure before the "bullying" whereas the kid could have been FORCED by the bully into the public eye. So it seems to me not so much that the kid was bullied (since he still CAN defend himself) it's that the bully has forced him into an arena that he didn't want to be in.
If the kid likes to operate in the public eye anyway then there is no problem IMO. But if he doesn't, I think this is where the issue that may or may not need addressing lies. So then, I say we need to ask what measures help a kid who wants to just be left alone? How much of a right does the kid even have to just being left alone? How practical is it in real life to expect to be just left alone?
What exactly do you mean by someone being or not being able to defend themselves in the distinction you make? What means does the politician have to defend himself from satire that the schoolchild does not? What has deprived the schoolchild of these means? Why can they not be granted to the schoolchild?
For all intensive purposes your wright. Its to bad I don't have no mod point's but if I did I would of. Irregardless, you'r point is much more affective then the usual drivel around hear.
I don't disagree, but what's the difference between lazy/delusional kids at a tech school and all the lazy/delusional kids going to a regular university because they've had it drilled into them to "just get a degree, ANY degree, if you want a decent job"?
Well I reckon you owe me a cupie doll!
I've logged thousands of hours of minesweeper.
I should enter a tournament or something.
(Dammit... Imagine an inverted question mark in front of that... now I know why people post this kind of crap AC...)
Que?
I'd like a ticket for this ride!
My God is the entirety of existence with space, time, energy, matter, our own free will, and other as-yet-undescribed-by-man properties being it's components and qualities; and its purpose (as best as any individual human can comprehend) is simply to be. Our lives are simultaneously the experiencing of, and playing out, of God's plan. My God is not a conscious persona as we understand ourselves to be, however (as previously stated) we conscious personas are an aspect of God.
"What IS real? If by real you mean what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain" --Morpheus. ;-}
But few for E?
There's gotta be a ST2 reference round here somewhere...
Just wanted to say "ditto"! ;-} After they reduced my rate I figured I'd go ahead and upgrade since I was thinking about it anyway and then they went and emailed me that little nicety. Then they lowered the price on my upgraded plan.
Blockbuster does have a good thing going by letting you return/rent at the store, but Netflix is keeping me as a customer because of its service and selection.
Doh! You're right! I'll go start living a meaningful life now. Thanks for the advice! :D
After falling deeply madly in love with SSX3, I thought dnL soda and the Honda Element were pretty cool things.
;-} I got to sample and enjoy that particular product integrated in the game as the soundtrack, rather than just obtusely associated via in-game advertisement.
Not to mention the many albums from Astralwerks artists that I've bought as a DIRECT result of that game... tho that might be a seperate issue.
No one should settle for a shitty job out of desperation. SETTLE- as in staying there. All I'm saying is folks should actually try to achieve what they want even if the odds are against them. And further more the consumer is under no responsibility to subsidize their employment in a shitty job, counter to the parent's insinuated claim. (yeah raging communist propoganda, I know. Oh wait, no, it'd be the COMPLETE OPPOSITE instead. :rolleyes:)
;-}
I explained it poorly and the Trolls feasted on my bones. Live and learn.
Thank you, CiderJack, for helping drive me actually to the point.