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iPod To Eventually Hold All the Video In the World?

An anonymous reader writes "A senior Google exec has been talking up the prospect of iPods that can hold all the world's media due to the plummeting price of storage and its increasing volume-to-size ratio. Google's VP of European operations, Nikesh Arora, predicts that in as little as just over a decade's time, iPods will be capable of storing 'any video ever produced.'" From the article: "Arora believes, mobile is likely to follow the same path. 'Mobile is not going to be a different thing,' he added — and if the mobile industry is to capitalize on the growth of content, it would be wise to ape the development of the internet. He said: 'The mobile industry has to go through the same phases the internet has gone through... Mobile will have the same learning curve. It would be somewhat foolish to leapfrog the stages the internet went through.'"

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  1. Re:Really? by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, but we'll be stuck watching it on those teeny tiny screens.

  2. Apple and the Google by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple: Gee, Google, what are we going to do tonight?

    The Google: The same thing we do every night, Apple ... Try to hold ALL THE VIDEO IN THE WORLD!

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    1. Re:Apple and the Google by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny

      Somehow that mental image lends itself more to Microsoft, don't you think?

      Ballmer: Narf! Poit!

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    2. Re:Apple and the Google by Josh+Lindenmuth · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is just as funny as the story is ridiculous.

      Historically and mathematically Google's claim just doesn't add up. Apple's iPod site claims that their 80GB video iPod can store "up to 6 1/2 hours" of video. Let's be very aggressive and assume that hard drives continue doubling in capacity every 2 years for the next decade. Here's where'd we be after 10 years:

      2006 - 80 GB, 6.5 hours
      2008 - 160 GB, 13 hours
      2010 - 320 GB, 26 hours
      2012 - 640 GB, 52 hours
      2014 - 1.28 TB, 104 hours
      2016 - 2.56 TB, 208 hours

      A 2.56 TB iPod would be quite impressive, but wouldn't even hold every season of The Simpsons, let alone "All the video in the world". Even if they ignored power/size requirements and used full 3.5 inch desktop drives, capacity would only be ~25.6TB or 2080 hours. This isn't even enough space to hold 1 year's worth of network soap operas.

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    3. Re:Apple and the Google by tempestdata · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but he didn't talk about compression, resolution, frame rate or even how many colors in which you'll get to see it. :P

      Seriously though, I agree with you. I think its just some guy making bold predictions to get attention. Like predicting flying cars, or colonies on the moon, plastic disposable houses, or android helpers, etc. Do what I do, and go 'yeah, maybe.. but I'll believe it when I see it.'

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    4. Re:Apple and the Google by aftk2 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Heh, that's 6 and a half hours of video playback, on one battery charge.

      Sheesh.

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  3. Personal storage by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personal storage is something we do now, because networking isn't cool enough. In ten years, it's entirely possible that networking will have increased to the point where the idea of keeping a local copy of ANYTHING will seem weird.

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  4. Capacity. by commo1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What exactly is the estimated capacity for "all the world's [media]". This sounds like one heck of a bold statement when the numbers at the moment are unfathomable for holding a back catalogue of everything broadcast on network television and everything from blockbusters to B-movies from 1890 on, let alone net-generated videos, cable and alternative delivery methods.

    1. Re:Capacity. by grnbrg · · Score: 5, Interesting
      What exactly is the estimated capacity for "all the world's [media]".


      Interesting question... IMDB currently has records on:

      • 363,000 movies released theatrically. (Average of 2 hrs)
      • 367,000 TV episodes. (Average of 30 minutes)
      • 57,000 made for TV movies. (Average of 90 minutes)
      • 51,000 direct to video movies. (Average of 2 hours)
      • 5,300 mini seris. (Average of 3.5 hours)
      Averages are wild-assed (but somewhat reasonable) guesses. Given that the MPEG2 encoding used by DVDs runs at about 25MB/minute or 1.5GB/hour this works out to about 2,000 terabytes for all current known video.


      Assuming storage capacity continues to double every 18 months ( big assumption!), and that we currently have 500G drives commercially available, we can expect to see this capacity in a single drive in less than 20 years.



      grnbrg.

  5. Media files will keep growing by linuxci · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I doubt that there'll ever be an iPod that can hold everything, but then again I doubt the author truly believes it. The more space we have the more we make use of it. 15 years ago a 4GB hard drive would be seen as enormous, now for many people 100GB ain't enough.

    New content is produced all the time, content is also likely to be stored at a better quality as long as space keeps increasing. I'm looking forward to the day of 80GB nanos, to me the nano is the ideal size, any smaller and it'd be awkward to control.

  6. 640k is enough for anybody by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm really tempted to save that article just so I can pull it out and show how naive people were back in 2006. If there is one thing time has taught me, it's that the volume of information expands in relation to your available storage. I mean 10 years ago one of our 500GB modern hard drives could have probably stored all of the video available on the internet with room to spare.

    I do agree that an iPod like device could probably hold enough video (high quality video at that) to well exceed its battery life however (modern iPods have no trouble doing that with music).

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  7. Questionably useful? by Toby+The+Economist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Imagine a video iPod with a nice little screen (640x480) and enough store for your entire video and music collection.

    You can carry it with you anywhere.

    Useful?

    I can usefully take music with me, because I can *listen* while I physically perform other tasks - like being at the gym, sitting down at work while I code.

    But *video?*

    Video is much less useful, because to *watch* you can't be doing other things - your eyes are occupied.

    So I think it's only useful for being portable in situations where you have to sit and *wait* and cannot do other things.

    For me that means just one thing; waiting for the bus and maybe when I'm on the bus, if it doesn't make me feel ill.

    For others, I can only imagine similar situations, e.g. being stuck on a mode of transport.

  8. Re:Really? by Furmy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I think that enough space to hold all the world's video should be enough for everyone"

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  10. Re:Backwards by lordb42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is correct as long as the ratio is storage volume / physical size. It is a bad choice of terms since it could also mean physical volume / storage size.

  11. Re:It already can! by mgblst · · Score: 4, Funny

    The compression scheme has been available for years. It is the decompression that has proved to be a little tricky.