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Sony, Nintendo Announce 'Fixes' For Their Consoles

Gamasutra reports that both Nintendo and Sony still have a few kinks to work out from their newly launched systems. It may seem funny to an onlooker, but the spectacular Wii strap blowouts are being taken very seriously by Nintendo. People are evidently 'even more excited' by playing the little white console than the company anticipated, and they're investigating the possibility that the straps aren't strong enough. Meanwhile, Sony has updated the PS3's firmware to 1.30 in an effort to take care of the much-complained-about resolution scaling issues. Ars Technica (and several other sites) are saying that the fix doesn't really do anything, despite Sony's reassurances. From that article: "The priority of resolutions has been changed, putting 1080i over 720p. So if you prefer 720p as a resolution, be sure to uncheck 1080i as a possible resolution on your television, or else games that support both resolutions will automatically display at 1080i. Of course, if you uncheck 1080i as a resolution, your Blu-ray movies will display at 480p. So you'll have to just manually switch the resolution yourself depending on what you're doing ... If you have a 720p set, not only has Sony not fixed the scaling issues, they've made the process of playing games and watching movies less user friendly. Sony really wants you to upgrade into a 1080p set, and they seem to want to punish you if you don't have one."

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  1. Sony... by Mysteerie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sony, fix the price first!

    1. Re:Sony... by DotWarner · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, Sony, fix the price! You've already got all that experience doing it in the music industry, so it should be easy!

    2. Re:Sony... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just because Supply and Demand don't always make sense, doesn't make the relationship any less real. The eBay sales are proof that, based on demand, the price wasn't near high enough, and there is nothing immoral about Sony charging what the market will bear...Not like there isn't cheaper competition.

      Now, you may say that people who pay thousands of dollars for a game console are ridiculous, but people have been paying a hell of a lot more than that for gaming computers for years, and if you view the PS3 as a midrange gaming computer, it's dirt cheap.

      Heh. I sound like a Sony fanboi...I have zero plans to buy a PS3/360/Wii any time soon, I just think they're taking way the hell too much flak for a price point that is selling out. That should be the goal for any company.

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  2. Cushy retirement job by DingerX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Okay, so before it was: "If my machine doesn't show 1080p, fall back on 720p, and 1080i (only) is screwed". Now it's "If my machine doesn't show 1080p, fall back on 1080i, and everyone else is screwed".

    So it went from a minor annoyance to a severe problem?

    Who put Don Rumsfeld in charge of patches?

    1. Re:Cushy retirement job by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Well, there are known knowns and known unknowns. The 1080p to 720p problem was a known known, but the 1080p to 1080i problem was a known unknown. But, we didn't know that it was a known unknown until it became a known known. But the best solution is still unknown, apparently."
      -- D. Rumsfeld on the Sony high-def concerns

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  3. You know... by Kirin+Fenrir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sony actually has good hardware with the PS3, despite all the FUD. But if they don't pull their heads out of the sand and overhaul the software, they're going to lose a lot of customers.

    I am a PS3 owner. Wake up, Sony.

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    1. Re:You know... by KDR_11k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sony has ALWAYS has great hardware.

      You don't have anything from the Playstation product line I take it?

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    2. Re:You know... by Afrosheen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm a PS3 owner that has had one since November 17th. No waiting in line on that day, just a nice preorder (5th place) so it was a stroll into the shop at 9am. Now for the gripes.

        Here's what Sony needs to fix that I've uncovered so far.

      1. Allow background downloading from the PS3 network. Every device known to man that's internet-enabled can do more than one thing at a time. There's no excuse for this.
      2. Upscale my DVDs. I know, you want me to buy Blu-Ray discs, and I plan to, but meanwhile I have a whole library of titles that are constrained to the shitty 480p resolution. Why? Everyone and their dog makes upscaling DVD players nowadays. All I'm asking for is 720p.
      3. Upscale my PS2 games. I don't want to play Final Fantasy XII or anything else in 480i or 480p, so why force me? Also can you do something about the fact that all the games look *worse* than the original PS2?
      4. Fix the bluetooth controller issues. More than once I've been in a firefight in Resistance, only to have my dude stare at the ground and strafe hard left. Unacceptable. In NES parlance I'd call it a controller-thrower moment.
      5. Is there even one good reason why every video I watch, be it Blu-Ray or DVD, needs to be letterboxed? Hello..there are like 80 lines missing from the top and the bottom of every movie. Widescreen video on widescreen set should not equal letterboxing.
      6. Digital optical audio output. Why is this such a problem on the PS3? Sometimes I get no sound..most of the time I do. I was playing 2 player coop with my friend on Resistance..and one level had no sound except for a dude yelling commands/comments at us in game. The next level, the sound was back. WTF?

        This is about all I can think of right now. Some should be easy fixes, others who knows.

  4. Heh... by Otter · · Score: 5, Funny
    People are evidently 'even more excited' by playing the little white console than the company anticipated, and they're investigating the possibility that the straps aren't strong enough.

    Even by Zonk standards, this is some impressive spinning -- it's not a defect, it's just that the fantasticness of the Wii is so all-encompassing that the designers couldn't have anticipated how much players would love it!

    Microsoft should have come up with that: "Players are so exhilarated by the 360 that they can sometimes set the carpet on fire!"

  5. If you look... by Shados · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you look at a wiimote from the more recent batches (especialy if its one that got sent by nintendo because of a defect or another, as a replacement), and compare the straps, the newer wiimotes have much, much better straps. So its already fixed in the newer batches, as far as I can tell.

    1. Re:If you look... by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

      They didn't expect Americans to be fit enough to smash a television, and even should the unthinkable happen, the player would surely die of the shock of destroying his God.

      Ooh, I'm going to hear it for that one.

  6. Fix Your Wiimote by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're honestly worried about the strap breaking on your Wiimote, check out this quick how-to on flickr. Just use some heavy duty fly fishing line to reinforce it.

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  7. Re:foobar by dj961 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Welcome to the world of console gaming, now with patches.

  8. It's time to stop the lawsuits by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a warning screen before each game to tightly grip the Wiimote. I wouldn't blame Nintendo for my inability to grip an object. On a related note, society on the whole is far to sue happy and I'm of the opinion that they should institute a mandatory penalty for bringing frivolous law suits.

  9. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Suggesting that Nintendo needs to be sued because people misuse the product, to a degree far enough beyond sensibility that it is almost laughable, makes me want to suggest suing microwave manufacturers because microwaving a baby makes a real mess.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nintendo has been very adament about using the seatbelts provided with the controller, but the seatbelts break anyways and take out thousand dollar TVs with them. I'm not sure why you're laughing.

      I don't know why the other guy is laughing, but I'M laughing at the dopes with broken thousand-dollar TV's because they somehow thought that the motor skills they developed as toddlers were no longer applicable.

      If you do not maintain a grip on an object in your hand, it will not stay in your hand. The wrist lanyard was never intended to be a primary restraint.

  10. Re:foobar by payndz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is something I seriously don't get about the latest generation of consoles. Every previous generation, one of the plus points was that once you buy the console, that's it - everything Just Works (tm Apple). Now the first thing you have to do when you switch on is download patches? WTF?

    How long before the first console game that requires patches just to get rid of all the v1.0 gameplay bugs?

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  11. What spin?! by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, I'm sorry, but I don't agree at all that this is some type of spin. Nintendo designed the Wiimote to what they felt would be appropriate safety standards when used responsibly and with a modicum of common sense. How exactly it is their fault that a bunch of people are far too overzealous for their own good? The strap is there for backup. The Wiimote should never have left the people's hands in the first place.

    This whole thing might convince me to put some adhesive rubber strips on the Wiimote for a better grip, (get your minds out of the gutter, guys...) but it's not Nintendo's fault if I act like a freaking maniac and the Wiimote flies out of my hand because I'm swinging it faster than I should or need to.

    As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo is taking the high road by saying that they're going to look at making the wrist straps more secure whereas they could just as easily say, "The Wiimote wrist strap was not designed for people who don't know how to control themselves properly" and leave it at that.

    And, no, that's not a troll or a flame. I'm just so tired of people pushing things beyond their limit of tolerance due to their own lack of self-control and common sense then blaming the manufacturer for it. If you buy a car, never take it out of first gear, red-line the engine by going 50 MPH, and end up in the hospital when the engine explodes, that's not the car manuacturer's fault for not making the engine more tolerant of your bad actions.

    Nintendo just gained some credibility in my book.

    As for Microsoft, I'm not as willing to let them off the hook. People have been putting consoles on the floor since the days of the Atari 2600, so that is not an unrealistic expectation. Yet Microsoft designed the 360 and its power supply to be a small toaster oven. They could have put a bit more planning into the heating/cooling system of the 360.

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    1. Re:What spin?! by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nintendo designed the Wiimote to what they felt would be appropriate safety standards when used responsibly and with a modicum of common sense.

      And then released it to the gaming public!! The height of irresponsibility!

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  12. Fix the Wii`s European Virtual console by palad1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The european virtual console is stuck @ 50 hertz, the games are about 15% slower and the screen has ugly black borders around it.

    As much as I am a nintendo fanboy, I really must admit they badly botched the it on this one...

    So please make eu games run @60Hz and use the overscan... pretty please?

  13. Re:come on by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I disagree about the sole use of the lanyard. I think it is specifically for keeping the wiimote handy while you grab your soda, or pick your nose, or whatever. It is NOT a restraint device. It is the *EXACT SAME THING* that has been on every digital camera ever. It is meant to save the camera when you drop it, NOT save the guy you try to throw the camera AT.