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New Stargate Series In the Works
Skythe writes "Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works: 'The new series is in the concept phase, and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. No concept for the show has yet been revealed.'
Gateworld also reports despite the cancellation of SG-1, the series is likely for a 2007 debut. I wonder if the direct-to-dvd movies will any influence on the new series, and what the concept behind the show will be?"
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. . . as long as it doesn't involve either (a) a prequel to Stargate SG-1, (b) aliens with big, floppy ears and a jamaican accent, (c) weird time travel/space-time continuum plot lines, or (d) William Shatner!
You know, they should totally make a Stargate movie! That would be awesome!
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:) I'm kind of disappointed about the alleged "stargate universe" reboot in the rumored sequel, considering that SG-1 picked up fairly nicely from where the original movie left off. It should be entertaining, in any event.
Given the production quality of SG-1 and Atlantis, I'm looking forward to any new Stargate series that comes out.
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But that's exactly what I'm saying they should do - rename it Stargate:The Uncharted Territories or whatever the hell and just keep going like we were before. Why invent a 3rd series when we practically already had one?
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can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?
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Why not another Star Trek? Oh wait, with some minor modifcations, Stargate is Star Trek.
And with some minor modifications Star Trek is Doctor Who which with some minor modifications is Battlestar Galactica which is very similar to Lost in Space which seems a lot like Futurama, a show that brings back memories of Andromeda which is like that old show...
Science fiction based around space travel is simply a variation on a theme. Some guys have this thing (Stargate, Enterprise, TARDIS, Galactica, Jupiter 2, Planet Express) that takes them around the galaxy and they meet these bad guys and they have to outwit them and they do nice things and sometimes bad things and gosh that's all there is to it.
Some have more direction (new BSG, DS9) than others which just wander around (TNG, Dr Who) while some do a bit of both (SG1). Nobody is claiming that Stargate is a brilliant new idea, just that it's an idea it's been well executed and well received (based on it's 10 years on the air if nothing else).
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I've heard that they may try to simultaneously (or at least in scarily close succession) make a spinoff movie for SG1 and make a sequel to the original movie... as if they were two completely separate things. Which, if you look at the turns that SG1 has made, isn't too far from the truth.
What about Stargate SG1 The new class.
But you are right it may as well be a new series as much as the cast and focus of the show has changed. I still really like the show but it has changed quite a bit in the past few seasons. After all how many plot lines can you have with the G'ould being the only real enemies. They also have / had the replicators but they are too static as character group to be of interest for too long.
Can we please please please not have another jarring character like McKay like in Stargate: Atlantis? Not only is he completely over-the-top antisocial, but he seems to make everyone around him lose any sense of tact that they might otherwise have had.
And that formula of having McKay/Carter start explaining the technical details of something, only to be interrupted by the superior officer who doesn't understand the jargon, is getting very very tired. Please kill it.
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Or possibly.. Stargate: Miami/New York/Las Vegas The same old shit with a different filter on the lens. or how about Stargate: SVU Finally... we can prosecute all those anal probing bastards.
Unfortunately, all the technical jargon would have to be in an incomprehensible dead language.
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...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel. You're not watching Doctor Who then, obviously.Seriously, of all the villains, he is the one I really like. OK, doesn't have to be the early years, I want to see Cliff Simon playing the character. But showing the other side of the fence could be interesting.
IMHO, of course.
Note: I'm from Germany and we're just getting the ninth season, so for me the Ori are still pretty new and fresh. But I'm already getting tired of it. Gone are the daays of exploring the galaxy in order to find new technology to defend Earth - now we have huge-ass warships and pretty much everyone who can hold a gun is our friend. And the Ori are so ridiculously overpowered that suspension of disbelief is getting hard; after all they could easily win by sending priors with planet-devastating powers to Earth and a couple other important planets. It's essentially a battle between godmoders.
If the show keeps going on like this it's no wonder it didn't survive. As much as I like SG-1, it's too similar to Dragonball Z for comfort.
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IMHO the series is in dire need of a reboot, which is why I find myself enjoying Atlantis more than SG1. With a show like SG1 it's far too easy to rely on prior-knowledge and previous episodes, which rewards long-time fans but make the show increasingly unapproachable by new viewers. Since the show isn't gaining many fans, it experiences a net loss of viewers until it inevitably starves itself out and gets canned.
With Atlantis character development has to be pushed, enemies are still fresh, mysterious, and menacing. Part of the thing with the Goa'uld at the beginning was how little we knew about them. We didn't know their customs, we didn't know too much about their physiology, and we certainly had no idea how to beat them. Part of the problem right now is that they've killed off all the bad guys, necessitating the need to create ever more powerful bad guys - and now we're literally fighting gods. The show's also drifted away from the Stargate-y roots. I enjoyed episodes where the gate would meet strange new enemies through the gate, not... by going to hyperspace and waging intergalactic war in ginormous battlecruisers. Please. Leave that to Star Trek.
How about a crossover? CSI: Chulak or Jaffa CIS? Or maybe Stargate: Impossible?
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Actually, one of the things that i found interesting was having the terran military develop technology that let them actually compete with the alien species surrounding them. This could have been really fascinating, but they developed so quickly, and with so little effort, that it really wasn't that interesting. I think they missed a huge opportunity there. The ground they covered though is fascinating, SG-1 went from running around on foot, and having to flee or leave behind anything they couldn't carry, to being able to teleport buildings, use energy weapons and shields, and travel in hyperspace. I wish they'd been more introspective about it (although i guess O'Neil's character didn't really lend itself that).
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Oh well, SG-1 was always soft scifi. Maybe i'm just a hard scifi geek complaining too much
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In what way is it exclusive? Perhaps it excludes plot, character development, and good writing?
It just means that the dipshit who submitted it took the headline of TFA "Exclusive: Third Stargate series in development" and mangled it into his summary without apparently understanding the journalistic meaning of "exclusive".
and its called ...
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The Stargate team encounters a powerful new enemy known as the 'Cylons'. When things start to look bleak for Earth, they are aided by a mysterious space / time traveler in a British police box.
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Gotta give a nod to Battlestar Galactica on Fridays. They've had their slow spots, even some of the deus ex machina endings to wrap up a storyline in the space of a single episode, but it's still gotta have some of the best writers I've seen. I love the show.
Plus, the eye candy isn't too shabby...
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It may have been unwatchable children's drek, but there was an animated Stargate: Infinity as well as the current two shows.
Then, I can guess that most language you've learned are :
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- Using alphabets for writing (as opposed to ideograph or syllable writing systems).
- Maybe even using some form of latin alphabet (as opposed to greek or cyrillic)
Reading is the most easy for you because you're quite familar with the symbols used to write language. The written form of words is the only thing that is actually new to you. Your eyes and your brain is already accustomed to the shape of most letters your going to encounter (you obviously are accustomed to latin alphabet, and maybe cyrillic and greek aren't too alien for you). If you had to start to learn chinese, Korean (with its very own concept of "alphabet disguised as a syllabary"), japanesse (OMG !!! 3 different writing systems !), old egyptian (Hieroglyphs), old Sumerian (Cuneiform), alternate forms to write old Greek (Linear B wasn't even designed to encode greek words), old bulgarian (using Glagolitic) old Mayan (no, no. these aren't complexe beautiful painting, they are writings), reading won't be that easy, because you'll have to put up with a completly new writing system, that doesn't look like anything you're used to.
SG happen to describe a universe where most human cultures were kept to a more ancient and primitive form.
Most old real-life human civilisation had mostly an oral tradition, people spoke much more than they wrote those language. Being illiterate was quite common and normal. Writing was only a small very specialised job done by specifically trained people/slaves (scribes). Both because of it and in consequence of it, writing wasn't a practical simple system, but a very complex one, with thousands of different symbols. Language of similar linguistic groups may use completly different writing system (because of its complexity writing wasn't carried over by people over cultural evolution, but may have been reinvented adhoc when needed for very specific purposes) old greek is a good exemple (you have Linear B used during Mycenian times, then a long period of purely oral tradition, then the Greek alphabet being adopted). It's the opposite of modern situation (were Latin is the most pervasive form of writing and due to computer and internet popularity is even used in language that traditionally never used it : like romanji).
In the fictional universe of Stargate this may translate that only earthlings did evolve their writing systems into something practical and easy to learn (in the movie, writing was showed to be forbiden). Most other population may have kept a lot of different and complex writing, some of which aren't even alphabet but much bigger character sets (syllables or ideographs).
In which case, for a team to be able to communicate in the fictionnal SG universe
- for spoken language
they need to learn some basic words in most language. As language are supposed to be primitive, they're expected to speak different dialects of mostly old Indo-European language. This concretly could mean learning a dozen or so translation for most common words needed for basic communication. The rest is usually dialectal difference and can be completed with guess work as dialogue is going. (And as experience in other language accumulate this is becoming even easier). The actual barrier isn't as much the vocabulary as the potential social faux-pas that could exist in a fictionnal setting where culture and civilisation are scattered into a lot of small and separated sub-groups accross the galaxy.
- for written language
They would need to learn several writing systems, most of which consists of thousands of different symbols and unlike spoken language, can't be grouped into closely related groups. Also, when you're not sure about the meaning you can't just ask the text to explain it.
To make comparison with other fictionnal situations : You're m
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...and what the concept behind the show will be?
I'm guessing it will involve a bunch of Air Force nerds who travel through a magic gate to other planets which all oddly resemble either California or British Coloumbia, and once there, do whatever the Star Trek crew did in whatever episode of Star Trek the script for this particular episode of the new Stargate was lifted from. And they'll throw in a popular nerd or two from some other nerdy show to ensure that nerds bother to watch.
Maybe the gate acts like the TARDIS, and emits a telepathic field that automatically translates the native language into the native language of the traveler and vic versa.
Of course, the gate can only translate verbal language and not written language like the TARDIS. That is a result of the Ancients not being as technologically advanced as the Time Lords.
That being said, I think the Doctor needs to get to the Pegasus Galaxy asap. They seem to have ZPM's and sense the Eye of Harmony doesn't work anymore (hence why the Doctor has to refuel the TARDIS from time to time) it could turn out to be useful. At the very least, he won't have to make continuous trips to Cardiff.
Hmmm, I wonder which provides more energy, an artificial black hole, or Zero Point Energy...
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