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FCC Drops Morse Code Requirement

leighklotz writes to mention a story discussing what some might consider a historic event. The FCC has dropped the Morse Testing requirement for amateur radio certifications. The public announcement was made on Friday. Ham radio operators will no longer have to study Morse, in a move patterned after other western nations. Says leighklotz: "The U.S. joins Canada and other countries in eliminating the morse code testing requirement, after being authorized to do so on July 5, 2003, when the World Radio Telecommunications Conference 2003 in Geneva adopted changes to the ITU Radio Regulations."

231 comments

  1. Bad idea? by Perseid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I understand they want more people back on ham radio, but what will the old-timers think of these code-less noobs invading their clique? And, no offense, but will anyone new care?

    1. Re:Bad idea? by khallow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Heh, it will be easier for me to obtain a license now. I'm now volunteering for a non-profit for which these licenses are useful to have. Probably will learn Morse code anyway since it is a very useful skill to know.

    2. Re:Bad idea? by scsirob · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The requirement to do morse code was to enable HAM's to interact with official emergency crew. Since they abandoned Morse code from operations, there's no need to have this requirement anymore.

      No-one forbids anyone from using Morse code. Those who master it will be able to use it as much as they want, and there's specific frequency ranges set aside for morse code communications. It's just that newcomers are not forced to learn one specific, outdated form of communication to take part in all those other forms, including Amateur TV, digital modes, PSK-31, moonbounce, meteor/rain scatter etc. Those who are interested in communication with minimal hardware requirements will continue to explore morse code.

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    3. Re:Bad idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I gather that hams have opposed this for years, saying that the lower entry requirements will cause their network to be flooded with the radio equivalents of AOL users. A bit like the time when the Internet suddenly became accessible to many, many, people, most of whom were complete idiots. However, I think that ham radio is a niche hobby, and it's unlikely that the changing requirements will really attract hordes of idiots.

    4. Re:Bad idea? by Zadaz · · Score: 3, Informative

      If they want to avoid people who don't know Morse code, they can communicate on the frequencies reserved for it. But hell, for 6 years the only proficiency you needed was 5wpm to get the highest class license. That's hardly communicating.

      That said, you still need to be licensed. It's not like they're giving everyone a gun, a bag of bullets and a case of beer.

    5. Re:Bad idea? by ztransform · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I grew up in an age where Morse Code seemed unnecessary, I remember the discussions about this all the way through university. Still, I decided to learn Morse Code for myself, and although I only passed at 6 wpm I had hoped that one day I would pass the 12 wpm exam.

      I believe that Morse Code is still good to learn, much like ocean-goers could benefit from learning celestial navigation techniques even though GPS has all but obliterated the need.

      One of the skills of a Ham Radio operator is potentially assisting in civil disasters. And having an extra tool for communication (perhaps a weak morse-only signal) is surely of benefit even if it might only be used rarely.

      So to sum up: I understand the reasons for removing the requirement, but I still think Morse Code is a good thing to learn.

    6. Re:Bad idea? by aztracker1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think it is a requirement for ATV, or some of the other stuff mentioned.. I have a few friends that are HAMS, I know one is not Tech certified, only the lower level, and he participates in ATV.. I think the limitations are in frequency band usage, and maybe transition power (though few hams use the max allowed).

      It's kind of a mixed bag though.

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    7. Re:Bad idea? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 3, Informative

      They will denounce it with bitter fury. Morse code requirements are a subject that shuts down rational discussion among hams as fast as abortion or the Middle East does among the general population.

    8. Re:Bad idea? by tomjen · · Score: 3, Funny

      No the hand gun, bullets and beer are reserved for Dick Cheney.

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    9. Re:Bad idea? by rusty0101 · · Score: 4, Informative

      One of the reasons that hams do not use the max allowed power all the time is that hams are supposed to use the least power they can to communicate. Not that they always do. Two hams a block or two apart may be chatting with each other through a wide area repeater transmitting at 50 or 90 watts, when they could be communicating simplex at less than a quarter watt.

      Also transmitting at x watts uses x plus some variable depending on the equipment in use power that has to come from some place. Commercial power, batteries, generators, solar cells, windmills all cost money or significant effort to put a signal on the air.

      Lastly, as odd as it seems to some people, we do not want to cause interference with other services or non-radio equipment. It actually bothers us when neighbors report that they are hearing our signals on their TV, computer speakers, or stoves. It means that energy we want to be broadcast for reception by other hams is being picked up by equipment not designed to receive the signal. Either energy that we want to be in the frequency spectrum we are transmitting on is in another spectrum, or the consumer equipment our neighbors are using has been designed poorly or the like.

      There are also big challenges to seeing how far we can communicate with very little power. There are a lot of hams that contest and communicate around the world on less than 5 watts. You know, the amount of energy that an incandescent night light draws.

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    10. Re:Bad idea? by kefoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even without the code requirement, getting a license still requires a good deal of work. Every class of license exam includes quite a bit of electronics theory that I think will help to weed out the people who aren't up to the qualifications of having a license and previously would have been turned off by the code requirement. On top of that there's the expense of buying (or building) the equipment and setting up an antenna, so I doubt we'll be flooded by morons any time soon.

      In emergencies or during periods of bad signal propogation morse code often offers the best chance for getting a message through. It requires less power than voice transmissions and is easier to understand through the noise that sometimes clogs the bands. That being said, there are enough of us who do know code (and many who use it exclusively) that hams as a group won't lose their utility in those times.

    11. Re:Bad idea? by packeteer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is something that would be nice to know but realistically it has little to no use for most people.

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    12. Re:Bad idea? by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting
      ...what what will the old-timers think of these code-less noobs invading their clique?

      This extra-class "old-timer", who had to pass the 20 WPM code requirement, is all for the change. After WWII, all it ever served as was an artificial non-technical barrier to a technical achievement in a technical hobby. I don't object to anyone learning the code and/or using the code, it has some merit as a low-power communications mode with extremely low hardware requirements (like a mirror or your arms) but I don't favor it being part of the gateway to any set of band or operating privileges unless they come up with a new one like "code endorsement" that is simply a certificate.

      Numerous technical advances have come from the ham radio community. It makes little or no sense to hold back a technical wizard's privileges because his ears or fist aren't good enough for morse code. But that's the FCC for you, historically speaking. Sense isn't exactly their forte'.

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    13. Re:Bad idea? by drix · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can't believe you didn't say "Linux vs. BSD among the /. crowd." :-)

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    14. Re:Bad idea? by ivoras · · Score: 1

      I would hope everyone keeps teaching at least one Morse code: SOS. It's a rarely recognizable international signal and symbol not tied (at least not anymore) to a specific language or culture.

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    15. Re:Bad idea? by Columcille · · Score: 1

      But if you ever lived in the town of Jericho, Kansas, you could use your Morse Code skill to find out what cities had been nuked.

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    16. Re:Bad idea? by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      I go by KiloDelta - the first two letters of my amateur extra call sign. I had to do the 20WPM code and you know what, it's not that hard. In the space of one year I went from my no code tech license to full extra. So now I get to gripe like the real old timers get to gripe when the no-code tech license came around. And I've only been licensed for 15 years.

    17. Re:Bad idea? by GeeBee · · Score: 1

      The old-timers won't think anything. They are dying off. Sorry to be so blunt, but it is true. The code has been irrelevant for years now. Nothing is stopping anyone who still wants to from learning the code. Code lovers can keep on loving it.

      I'm a "no-code" technician. After this goes into effect I'm going to upgrade.

    18. Re:Bad idea? by dem3tre · · Score: 1

      This is a great change!

      Allowing easy entry to the HF bands where most of the "action" is will only help encourage the non-morse active enthusiasts to work on that code now that they can directly participate and experience the benefits that code provides on those long distance contacts. Popular digital modes will surely get a boost in users now too. Not to mention more flexability on who can run the ever popular GOTA stations!

      As someone that has always struggled with code, not being a habitual user, this change gives the average ham (tech class-no code) a reason to stay active in the field now that they're not the crippled step child to a "real ham". Let's face it, in-person events are great at showing the wider population what ham radio is all about and for the no-code techs this is what amateur radio is (low power, distance limited communication) but these events are far and few between -- and chatting on the local repeaters gets old quick. Finally with this ruling the bulk of our community will be able to experience the joys of a long distance rag chew and other daily onair events -- and just might ramp up the excitement enough to work on the next license class or *gulp* learn code!

      This one ruling IMHO just saved amateur radio from extinction.

    19. Re:Bad idea? by Pinkfud · · Score: 1

      I can tell you what one old-timer thinks: Bah! Code-slinging has defined the hobby since the days of spark, and it's still actively used today. (Pinkfud is WAØYSK).

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    20. Re:Bad idea? by uncoveror · · Score: 1

      With no more Morse Code in the future, how will Scotty tap out "get back" to Captain Kirk and bust him out of his cell like in Star Trek V?

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    21. Re:Bad idea? by timeOday · · Score: 1
      I believe that Morse Code is still good to learn, much like ocean-goers could benefit from learning celestial navigation techniques even though GPS has all but obliterated the need.
      I can imagine situations where celestial navigation would work even if GPS would not (though I suspect the reverse is more often the case, due to clouds, mist, and daylight), but it's harder for me to see the value of morse code radio. It's not a different medium, just a different encoding of our alphabet.
    22. Re:Bad idea? by tylernt · · Score: 1
      I don't think it is a requirement for ATV, or some of the other stuff mentioned.
      It's not. Morse was for the HF bands (below 50MHz) which are used for long-range communications. Morse-less hams were restricted to short-range frequencies*, where they could do ATV, PSK31, etc all they pleased.

      *Ok, so 50-54MHZ is sometimes long range, but certainly not often nor reliably.
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    23. Re:Bad idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This idea has been a long time in the making. Not everyone likes it. Some people may abuse HF. Others such as myself have been trained by other hams for years and know better. I am glad that this change has occurred. I think it gives me another reason to get active in radio.

      The Amateur Radio Service has always policed itself, and I think it always will. As long as the community doesn't want another part 95 service. (CB\FRS) it won't become one.

      - KD7SWH

    24. Re:Bad idea? by wwphx · · Score: 1

      It's not going to attract AOL-type users as you have to pass tests on regulations, radio theory, and electronics theory in order to get your ticket. The Morse requirement was from the ITU which regulates world-wide radio. ITU never specified the speed, just that you had to know it.

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    25. Re:Bad idea? by T-Ranger · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yes, because yelling "help", without any indication of the severity of the problem, or your location, on a medium that could have you and your receiver on opposite sides of the planet, is really going to get you help. You might as well start a fire.

    26. Re:Bad idea? by khallow · · Score: 1

      Yes, because yelling "help", without any indication of the severity of the problem, or your location, on a medium that could have you and your receiver on opposite sides of the planet, is really going to get you help. You might as well start a fire.

      I understand that this has worked before. Multiple stations can triangulate the origin of the SOS signal and then notify people in the appropriate region.
    27. Re:Bad idea? by dotfile · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not just a different encoding, it's a completely different method of transmission. Morse code usually implies CW (continuous wave) transmission, which is readable by humans at signal levels far below those usable for voice. It's copyable without the use of a computer or any other specialized gear, other than (obviously) a recevier.

    28. Re:Bad idea? by GigsVT · · Score: 2, Informative

      The 12 wpm test hasn't existed for about 5 years. It's been a single 5wpm test for a while now.

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    29. Re:Bad idea? by fred911 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Even without the code requirement, getting a license still requires a good deal of work" -- NOT!
      Any monkey with a memory can pass an exam where the question pool is published before the exam. VEC's aren't allowed to change 1 word in any of the questions and are mandated what questions to ask.

        If memorization is what you consider a "good deal of work" wait until you have to pass a real test.

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    30. Re:Bad idea? by No2Gates · · Score: 1

      I've been a Tech for 8 years now. Can't wait.

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    31. Re:Bad idea? by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      Morse code sucks.

      That is all.

      - KB0LIG

    32. Re:Bad idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know one is not Tech certified, only the lower level,

      Technician is the lowest level, fyi.

    33. Re:Bad idea? by Myopic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Morse code requirements are a subject that shuts down rational discussion

      emacs is better than vi!

    34. Re:Bad idea? by Metzli · · Score: 1

      The biggest values of Morse Code are that it can be used pretty well on a noisy or congested band and that it doesn't take a lot of power. One can do voice or computer-based communications via battery power, but it's hard to operate as long as someone with a CW (Morse) rig.

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    35. Re:Bad idea? by Metzli · · Score: 1

      I would disagree. I think Morse Code is a pretty cool and quite useful communications method. Having said that, I think that forcing potential hams to learn it really sucks.

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    36. Re:Bad idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ... so I doubt we'll be flooded by morons any time soon.

      You haven't been listening on two meters for the past few years, right? The foul-mouthed baboons congregate there every night, basically comparing dick sizes.

    37. Re:Bad idea? by bplipschitz · · Score: 1

      I would hope everyone keeps teaching at least one Morse code: SOS. It's a rarely recognizable international signal and symbol not tied (at least not anymore) to a specific language or culture.

      It's not tied to a specific language, per se. SOS is not an abbreviation or initialization of any group of words or phrase. It's just SOS.

    38. Re:Bad idea? by Scud · · Score: 1

      Oh happy day!

      I really just want to work data (digital modes) and not voice, but I haven't had much luck learning Morse code (not that I practiced all that much). And I had just started working on it once more after being shamed into trying (yet again) by my extra-rated buddy.

      I've always took the position of why bother with the exams when I wouldn't get the class that I wanted without knowing Morse code?

      And I own an Icom 735 and an Elecraft K2 (in the process of being built) so it's not like I'm not willing to invest time and money into the hobby. I just can't get/won't bother to learn Morse.

      And if I really, really want to talk Morse, I'll use one of the programs out there that do the keying for me. I'm a RTTY/*TOR fan anyways, why would I be interested in learning Morse in the first place? Don't get me wrong, Morse is cool, just as long as my PC does the interpreting. :)

      I really think that this is going to go a long ways towards building up the number of hams out there.

      Now, what to so with my ARRL code practice tape and my Iambic keyer?

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    39. Re:Bad idea? by hammie · · Score: 1

      emacs is better than vi!

      NO WAY! Everyone knows VI kicks ass all over emacs:) Okay I am a ham, and some of the cranky ones are upset by the morse thing. They just need to get a grip on life and learn some fricking Linux.

      What the hell is with all these hams and their stupid Windows programs?????? There is not that much out there for Linux. Some techie crowd.

  2. CQ by oz1cz · · Score: 5, Funny

    dit-dit dah-dit dat dit dit-dah-dit dit dit-dit-dit dah dit-dit dah-dit dah-dah-dit

    1. Re:CQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      dit-dit-dit dit-dit-dah dit-dah-dit dit

    2. Re:CQ by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Funny

      what the heck is a dat?

    3. Re:CQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said just like one of those no-code advocates:

      It's actually dah-dit dah-dit dah-dah-di-dah

      10-4 good buddy?

    4. Re:CQ by paniq · · Score: 1

      manah manah!

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    5. Re:CQ by kefoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      For all those who don't know Morse Code, it says "Interesting".

    6. Re:CQ by sbben · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cut the leet.

    7. Re:CQ by Ngarrang · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cut the leet. I think this might be the first time in history someone has accused of Morse Code of being leet speak. Wow.
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    8. Re:CQ by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      manah manah!

      Doo Dooooooo Di doo doo.

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    9. Re:CQ by mwilliamson · · Score: 1

      dit-dah dah-dah-dit dit-dah-dit dit dit dah-dit-dit

    10. Re:CQ by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 4, Funny

      You kids and your damn rap music. Now get off my lawn.

    11. Re:CQ by UncleTogie · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      manah manah!
      Doo Dooooooo Di doo doo.
      http://www.devilducky.com/media/7452/

      ...and here's the video for the Muppet-Impaired!
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    12. Re:CQ by smenor · · Score: 1

      dit-dit dit-dit-dit-dit dit-dah dit-dit-dit-dah dit dah-dit dah-dah-dah dit-dit dah-dit-dit dit dit-dah dit-dah-dah dit-dit-dit-dit dit-dah dah dah-dit-dah-dah dah-dah-dah dit-dit-dah dah-dah-dit dit-dit-dah dah-dit-dah-dah dit-dit-dit dit-dah dit-dah-dit dit dit-dit-dit dit-dah dah-dit-dah-dah dit-dit dah-dit dah-dah-dit

  3. What the Morse? by CriminalNerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's wrong with the Morse code? Personally, I think that learning the Morse code should be a requirement for radio operation at the very least (or any communications course in general) because the Morse code is very simple to learn and use, and because it is nearly universally recognized. Telling radio operators that they don't need to know Morse code is like telling scientists that they don't need to know the periodic table by heart.

    1. Re:What the Morse? by scsirob · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's nothing wrong with morse code, it's just no longer a requirement to master morse code in order to take part in all sorts of other communication modes. Anyone who wants/likes to practice morse code is free to do so, it's just no longer an obstacle for people who do want to become a HAM operator but have no interest in this single mode of operations.

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    2. Re:What the Morse? by chanrobi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, astronomers definitley need to know their periodic tables.

    3. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I agree. If a person can spend many hours studying (I mean memorizing) the question pool for the various tests now that are handed to folks on a silver platter, they can spend a few more hours learning the morse code at 5 words a minute for Gods sake. Years ago, there wasn't a study guide that had all of the EXACT questions in it to study, now they drop the code requirement - what next? Let's make it just like the CB band. Once again the EXTRA CLASS hams gets screwed. I'll be waiting to see how long it takes the FCC to start trimming the bandwidth now assigned for CW operation on the bands. Maybe we can start taking away "outdated" subject requirements to graduate High School too, like history, and English? That could get the kids into the workforce and college faster and save taxpayers a whole bunch of money. Funny how the FCC announced this on a Friday - usually the day many financial announcements that aren't too favorable are released. I knew that their "public input" was a joke and this was pre-determined many moons ago. I am sure they won't at least toughen the test up a little to make up for the relaxation of the CW requirement. Don't hold your breath.

    4. Re:What the Morse? by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      How much of that periodic table does the scientist down the hall from you know? All 132 elements? (or is it 137 this week?) Is it the table that includes the atomic weight, mass, count of electrons in each shell, normal shell state levels, excited state electron shell levels? Full description of the organization of protons and neutrons? What other elements each element will build a valent or covalent bond with? What color a reducing electron shell move generates as a photon?

      Is it helping him in his job of analyzing and describing the observations of the cosmos? Is it helping her explain how quantum electro dynamics is demonstrating a flaw with the concept of causality? Was there some test they took that demonstrated they knew all the minutia of the periodic table by heart?

      I think you will find that you can easily find scientists who do not know every possible detail of the current periodic table by heart. Just as you will likely find a few hams that can't tell you how Ohms law is affected by a change from DC to AC.

      Morse is a very useful language to know. In some cases far more useful than people who know it expected at one time or another. But that doesn't mean that every radio operator is going to use it for every activity they do on the radio. It can be fun to work with, but that doesn't make it worthy of being a requirement to know or be tested on.

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    5. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is the point of a scientist knowing the periodic table if they are a physist, or something to that effect? I recived my Technicain Lisence in July 05 at age 12, and have been waiting since then for them to drop this requirement. For the person who commented that Morse Code is easy to learn and use, you are wrong. I have tried for some time to learn it(includeing several computer programs passed on by my Elmers) and have thus far failed. The reason I got into Ham Radio was to help communicate during emergencies, this code requirement, however, blocks me form any HF going ons, limiting my range to a couple of miles. This progress will rejuvinate HAM Radio, leading to a safer America.

    6. Re:What the Morse? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Or like telling computer programmers that they don't have to know how to code in machine language.

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    7. Re:What the Morse? by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 1

      That's probably one of the best reasons I have heard for keeping it. It took me nearly two years of working on and off to be able to pass the 5wpm test. I have yet to make a contact using it. I stick with PSK31 and SSB for most of my contacts, but I appreciated it is there and it is amazing to see some of the people who are very proficient with it. It is still the ultimate weak signal communication mode, and combined with Q-codes and other ham lingo, it makes for a nearly universal language to communicate with other hams.d

    8. Re:What the Morse? by Nate+B. · · Score: 3, Informative

      Okay, I probably shouldn't reply to a -1 flamebait, but are you aware that the FCC hasn't been in charge of the tests for some time? The Question Pool Committee (QPC), made up of representatives of each Volunteer Exam Coordinator (VEC), determine what is a part of each license class's exam. The FCC has been trying to back away from Amateur Radio for about 30 years now. This is just one more step.

      If you truly care about the direction the Service is headed, then you need to get involved in one of the organizations and work toward that end.

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      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    9. Re:What the Morse? by fyngyrz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Once again the EXTRA CLASS hams gets screwed.

      How, precisely, were we "screwed" by this change? I took the 20 WPM test, I passed it, I know code and can use it both ways at about 35 WPM (I can't write any faster than that.) I don't feel screwed by having the "achievement" under my belt, as it were. The only way I feel screwed is by the relatively few people who were able to make it to extra, earning recognition for their relevant skills, you know, like knowing how a blinking radio works? I feel screwed by the number of people turned away from the hobby because they found morse too difficult, though they were technically sophisticated. I feel screwed by a government that doesn't follow international treaties any time it wants, but elected to follow this requirement long after it was obsolete, thus trimming the membership of ham radio. I feel screwed by hams who rationalize that "because I did it, YOU have to do it" is a "good" reason.

      Morse code isn't easy for some people. Just because it was easy for you, doesn't mean it is easy for any other individual. I'm a musician and it came to me naturally and quickly, and I think that is why. On the other hand, I worked for months with several hams trying to get them over the 20 WPM threshold, and it never happened despite hours and hours of investment of everyone's time. It was bullshit then, and it's been bullshit for many decades.

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    10. Re:What the Morse? by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll one-up you on that. I have an MS in Chemistry and I couldn't tell you the atomic weight of Tungsten, or even its Atomic number. I imagine that it is a transition metal, and if for some reason I was doing Tungsten chemistry I'd probably take the time to learn a heck of a lot more than fits in a 2cm square box.

      Sure, I have most of the abbreviations memorized, and weights/series memorized for the more common elements. And guess what - I didn't have to memorize them to pass a test! I'm sure that many reading /. didn't start out coding in java, and may not have ever taken a test, but I'm sure that quite a few have half of the normally-used classes memorized as well.

      When I see kids being forced to cram atomic numbers for a chemistry exam I cringe. No wonder nobody goes into the sciences these days! Make them memorize some facts, and don't bother to worry about whether they understand why things work that way... Are we teaching them science (the process of advancing knowledge in a systematic way), or magic (reciting mysterious incantations carefully lest you end up a newt)?

      I know a ham operator (extra class), and while he can key at 60WPM he tends to spend more time doing PACTOR/AMTOR these days, or using computer-assistance with the code. Actually, he has been trending away from operating at all since it seems like all the regulars are dying off (they just disappear and you don't hear about them again). It would seem that the FCC is doing the right thing in trying to transform the hobby.

      Consider that 50 years ago ham radio was cutting edge. People who now build PCs and PHP applications used to build radios and operate networks/relays/repeaters. Now ham radio has the perception of being ancient technology (although I know that it doesn't have to be that way). Memorizing morse code is about as useful as requiring knowledge of x86 assembly to program a computer, or knowledge of UUCP email addresses to use gmail. That doesn't make either of those things useless - but they aren't essential either and if you want to study functional programming you won't find much use in memorizing indirect memory indexing modes.

    11. Re:What the Morse? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      It is still the ultimate weak signal communication mode

      Well, maybe without the assistance of a computer. I'm sure a digital technology with error correction would enable communications at lower power than morse. Morse is essentially a form of digital communications designed to be understood by a person. It also has the advantage that you could probably build a practical radio rig out of stuff you'd find lying around the house (unlike a computer).

    12. Re:What the Morse? by mindstrm · · Score: 1

      The advantages are clear, however, it's not a technical skill; being able to tap out and listen to morse at 20wpm does not tell you how to prevent interference or build an antenna properly.

      It's like computer programmers being required to type at least 100wpm and read code scrolling by at 10 lines per second. It's a useful skill, but has nothing to do with the ability to write proper software.

    13. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may be easy for YOU to learn morse code, but there are those of us that can not do it. Anyone who says that it's easy to learn for EVERYONE is talking with great ignorance.

      As a Tech class license holder who has no chance of learning morse code, I am thrilled at the FCC action.

      The morse code requirement could be compared to forcing anyone who wanted to use a web browser to learn to code HTML or JAVA first. I know a lot of hams that would be left out if that was a requirement.

      73's

    14. Re:What the Morse? by nvrrobx · · Score: 1

      It's probably worth mentioning an organization that works towards that end, for people that are not HAMs or want more info.

      Check out the Amateur Radio Relay League's website: http://www.arrl.org/

          - Rob - KE6FTH

    15. Re:What the Morse? by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with the Morse code? Personally, I think that learning the Morse code should be a requirement for radio operation at the very least (or any communications course in general) because the Morse code is very simple to learn and use, and because it is nearly universally recognized. Telling radio operators that they don't need to know Morse code is like telling scientists that they don't need to know the periodic table by heart.

      Tell that to a quadraplegic. Back in the 1980s I knew a paraplegic, wheelchair bond, who only had partial control of his arms. He could listen to morse code all day long but it was a struggle to key it for him. The only thing requiring morse code does is weed out those who can't or won't learn it. Morse code should be optional not manditory.

      As for the periotic table, in the first half year of high school chemistry my class was required to learn and memorize all of the elements except the transuranic elements, valiance, atomic weight, sign, number of protons, and number of neutrons of the most common isotope. But when I took first semester chemistry in college, a few years later, we were only given a list of about 50 elements we had to know. And then only the number of protons, the sign, and the valiance.

      Falcon
    16. Re:What the Morse? by CyberLord+Seven · · Score: 1
      Morse code was GREAT...back in the day when we could pull tubes, resistors, caps, and discrete transistors from the wreckage of a Nuclear/Natural disaster and put togther a quick rig to spit out RF. You could then communicate with other radio operators, assuming you had some batteries. One such person per neighborhood was all that would be needed for a distant government relief agency to keep in touch with desperate people.

      Skip forward to September, 2005. Imagine yourself in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Now imagine yourself pulling the remains of your CD player, television, and whatever pieces of electronic debris you have available. You need to communicate with FEMA, not that they're going to do anything, but you need to communicate with them. What do you see inside your various consumer electronics items: Surface Mount Devices (SMD) and exotic ICs.

      WTF are you going to do with that shit? Morse code is dead as far as a civilian response in times of emergency!

      --
      We have always been at war with Eurasia!
    17. Re:What the Morse? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      When I see kids being forced to cram atomic numbers for a chemistry exam I cringe. No wonder nobody goes into the sciences these days! Make them memorize some facts, and don't bother to worry about whether they understand why things work that way... Are we teaching them science (the process of advancing knowledge in a systematic way), or magic (reciting mysterious incantations carefully lest you end up a newt)?

      This has become the basis for all institutional education. Don't think, just know.

      When you teach people to learn, they start to learn things that threaten the system. When you tell them what to know, they serve the system very well.

      - RG>
      --
      Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
    18. Re:What the Morse? by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

      I guess I may as well chime in here too. I only ever passed the 5 WPM test (when I was 10) and upgraded to extra after the 20 WPM code requirement was dropped. I'm happy to see it go entirely - it only serves as an artificial barrier to getting people into the hobby. It'd be nice if they augmented the tests with a little bit about digital modes and such, though. Modes like PSK31 can get through in situations where CW used to be your only option, but people need to understand a bit about how they work and how they can be used most effectively.

      It's kind of like in the graphics world - everyone recognizes .jpg and .gif files, and they're easy to use, but there are many, many people that don't understand HOW they work, or why you don't want to save a line drawing in jpeg format, or when to keep something in TIFF. It's that sort of knowledge that separates communicators from appliance operators. I'd much rather see hams introduced to, say, Shannon's theorem than forced to learn CW, when 90% of them won't retain any proficiency over the long term.

    19. Re:What the Morse? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      It's more like telling electronic techs that they don't need to know the resistor color code by heart.

      And I am shocked whenever I see that. The resistor color code order should be used everywhere, and yet I find cable harnesses at work done by old farts years ago that don't follow it.

    20. Re:What the Morse? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      How is "Ohms law affected by a change from DC to AC"??? If you're dealing with AC, you have to work with vector impedances, not pure resistance. Ohms law isn't affected at all, the math just is a bit more complicated. If you degenerate into using anything other than vector impedances when working woth Ohms law and AC, you've started fiddling with witchcraft and tricky approximation forumlas and are headed for trouble.

    21. Re:What the Morse? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      'Computer programming' is a skill you learn by going to a school that advertises 'Learn Computer Programming' on a matchbook cover. So obviously, the 'programmer' learns whatever rote skills are necessary for the kind of programming done at the particular job site. It's very unlikely to involve machine language.

      If you are a computer scientist (professionally accredited or amateur, makes no difference) you need to know a certain amount of machine language to grasp the underlying mechanisms.

      If you're a firmware developer who works with small embedded controllers, it's essential to fully understand ASM, even if you work with a higher level language that dumps an ASM file to assemble and burn into Flash.

      It's pretty similar to Morse and Ham Radio. If you're just going to bounce FM off the local repeater and chew the rag with your buddies, your understanding can remain fairly fundamental. If you're gonna built little rigs into Altoid cans and try to QRP around the world, you need a lot more.

    22. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with the Morse code?

      It's an out dated form of communication and is dificult for some to learn. It was the only non-technical barrier to getting a license. Now that it has been removed I may actualy go take the test just to have the license, even if I never fire up any of my old gear.

      Personally, I think that learning the Morse code should be a requirement for radio operation at the very least (or any communications course in general) because the Morse code is very simple to learn and use, and because it is nearly universally recognized.

      No, it is not simple for everyone to learn. I consider my self to be a fairly well educated person, I understand plenty of complex aspects of electronics, such as capacitive resistance and inductor formulas. I am capable of building AM and FM rigs from scratch. Yet I have never been able to properly memorize the Morse code. Why should I be excluded from a technical hobby because of what is in reality a lingustic skill? Why should there be any requirement as to what language you use over RF? After all Morse code is a language (sort of, though you are encoding english typically). What if the FCC decided you had to speak Japanese to get a license? That would be just as pointless of a non-technical requirement and just as unfair as requiring the use of Morse code.

      And no, out side of mabye the S-O-S pattern, the majority of people in the world DO NOT know Morse code. It is a relativly obscure form of communication these days. And that's fine if some people still use it, great for them. It's a difficult skill to master high speed CW, and I have plenty of respect for those who are able to do so. How ever I don't see why people like my self, who know plenty about electronics but just can't get the hang of Morse code, should be excluded from the hobby.

      Telling radio operators that they don't need to know Morse code is like telling scientists that they don't need to know the periodic table by heart.

      Actually, I agree with this statement. Because a good scientists doesn't bother memorizing facts from tables that can easily be looked up as needed. No, a sharp mind spends time figuring out how to apply and obtain facts, not memorizing data sets. So I would agree that scientists do not need to memorize the periodic table. And if you disagree, well, I can only leave you with this:

      "Never memorize something that you can look up." - Albert Einstein

    23. Re:What the Morse? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Oh, I think you do need to be able to. I don't code a line (I'm not even a CS), but I learned to do 6502 machine language when I was a kid. So how many "programmers" out there can even do "hello world" on the architecture of their choice in machine code? Take your average CS degree student from an average college. I'd bet less than 30% could do it in an hour. Pretty sad, really.

      --
      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    24. Re:What the Morse? by gnu-sucks · · Score: 1

      If morse code is so universally recognized, why is it that most ham radio operators haven't passed a morse code test? Why has morse code been /dropped/ from ITU communications requirements?

      Additionally, your analogy to science is absolute bullshit. Dropping morse code is more akin to dropping the Bohr model for the atom. It's useless.

      The periodic table is fundamental for understanding chemistry. Equally, basic wave theory, antenna resonance, and circuit theory are fundamental to operating with ham radio.

      It's rather narrow-minded to select the first mode of communication for ham radio and decide that this is our fundamental cornerstone. Should computer programmers start by punching cards on a PDP-11?? I mean, come on! I *never* use CW, and I've been on ham radio since I was 12. Yes, I transmit carrier waves, but mine modulate either in phase, amplitude, or frequency. Morse code sure hasn't been fundamental to my use of ham radio. I've even built rigs from spare parts, and never, ever, did I need to know morse code to do this.

      I, for one, welcome our new no-code HF users!

    25. Re:What the Morse? by gnu-sucks · · Score: 1

      Memorizing morse code is about as useful as requiring knowledge of x86 assembly to program a computer, or knowledge of UUCP email addresses to use gmail

      That is one of the most well-said posts in this discussion. Thank you very much. Well done.

    26. Re:What the Morse? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      The easiest way, since you specified 'architecture of choice' is to do an end-run around the system software. The boot sector on a floppy disk can be coded with the 'hello world' program. Instead of booting up an OS, just write the minimal bios-based code to throw a string up in the text buffer on the display.

    27. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations - you passed the 20 WPM CW test on the first try. Many other hams did just the same, so don't feel too proud.

      As for the US "not following treaties" if you have been on the 40 meter band within the last 40 years, you can see how many other countries don't follow treaties by broadcasting right in the middle of one of the best bands at night for DX.

      I guess you would welcome with open arms the dropping of the testing requirement because that is "BULLSHIT" too, correct?

    28. Re:What the Morse? by fyngyrz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It never ceases to amaze me how people can apparently read what you posted, think they've extracted things out of it you never said or implied, then post an angry diatribe in "response."

      You, sir, have managed to create three paragraphs of complete and uniform irrelevance to me or my written opinions on slashdot. In the spirit of HF, however, I will gamely reply: "So, how's the WX?"

      --
      I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
    29. Re:What the Morse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What have I said that in your words is "irrelevant"? I stated facts about 40 meters and that is irrelevant? Why not go into how the bicycle is irrelevant also with the availability of a motorcycle, car, train, and jet airplane.

      Also, I get a kick out of all the posters who think I am 65 years old and in a electric chair. Shows you how much people THINK they know about the guy on the other end. Maybe its all that education they have - it gives you a superiority complex. 10-4 good buddy?

    30. Re:What the Morse? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1
      Telling radio operators that they don't need to know Morse code is like telling scientists that they don't need to know the periodic table by heart.

      Don't worry, darwinism will eliminate the scientists that opt not to memorize the Periodic Table that would empower them with a "back of the mind" reminder that they shouldn't mix the stuff.
    31. Re:What the Morse? by Gospodin · · Score: 1

      But they do! Luckily, for astronomers the periodic table is very simple:

      1: Hydrogen

      2 or higher: Metal

      --
      ...following the principles of Heisenburger's Uncertain Cat...
    32. Re:What the Morse? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Ok, if you insist:

      Congratulations - you passed the 20 WPM CW test on the first try

      I didn't say that. I said I took it, and I passed it. In point of fact, it took two tries. That's one error on your part.

      Many other hams did just the same, so don't feel too proud.

      I never said I felt proud. That's two errors on your part. I wasn't saying that because others passed, or didn't, there was any point to be made. That's three errors on your part.

      As for the US "not following treaties" if you have been on the 40 meter band within the last 40 years, you can see how many other countries don't follow treaties by broadcasting right in the middle of one of the best bands at night for DX.

      My point, which you entirely missed, was that since the US typically picks and chooses what treaties it follows, or does not, the excuse that international telecommunications treaties "required" morse was not worthy of consideration. This has nothing, and I mean absolutely zero, to do with what other countries do, or don't do, on 40 meters or any other band. That's the textbook definition of irrelevant, by the way. And your fourth error.

      I guess you would welcome with open arms the dropping of the testing requirement because that is "BULLSHIT" too, correct?

      Again, nothing I said can possibly be interpreted to mean this, nor do I feel this way. Your fifth error, out of five statements. In other words, your entire post was exactly as I described in the grandparent: It had nothing to do with me. But you couldn't leave it go at that, could you? No, you had to add this:

      Also, I get a kick out of all the posters who think I am 65 years old and in a electric chair.

      And are you saying you got this impression from me, somehow? If so, what did I say along these lines?

      Why not go into how the bicycle is irrelevant also with the availability of a motorcycle, car, train, and jet airplane.

      Because it is wrong, not on-topic, and has nothing to do with the matter at hand?

      ws you how much people THINK they know about the guy on the other end. Maybe its all that education they have - it gives you a superiority complex.

      The only thing working to make me feel "superior" is the amazing level of irrelevance you brought to this conversation. Not one thing you posted in reply to me had anything to do with my posts. Not one thing. I am perfectly ready to discuss any relevant issue, but you managed to not find one. I don't actually feel superior -- that's another presumption on your part -- but I sure do feel like my time has been wasted. If you want to argue a legitimate point, by all means, do so. But don't think you're going to engage me in an on-topic manner with posts like the foregoing; not going to happen.

      --
      I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
  4. What about everyone else? by Loconut1389 · · Score: 3, Funny

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    1. Re:What about everyone else? by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

      I should postfix this with what I meant to say was that the people who don't have morse skills will be missing out on a large part of the communications that goes on in the HF bands. Learn morse so you can actually use some of the limited bandwidth and get further DX- HF isn't pointless without morse, but it sure is more interesting.

    2. Re:What about everyone else? by scsirob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You show exactly why morse code should not be a requirement. It sure is an interesting mode, for those who want to explore limited bandwidth modes and long distances. It has zero use to those interested in UHF/SHF experiments, digital modes etc. The requirement to learn Morse code to access HF would be as justified as requiring people to decode AX.25 packets from memory just to allow them access to their local UHF repeater chatbox.

      --
      To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
    3. Re:What about everyone else? by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

      for the mods- the above actually says something:
      "I suppose this leaves everyone else in the dark?"

      the point for saying so was - people on those frequencies will still continue to use CW and everyone else will not be able to read/understand unless they learn morse anyway!

    4. Re:What about everyone else? by Znork · · Score: 1

      Not being a ham enthusiast, I'd have to ask; arent there computer programs or even gadgets that can easily translate much, much faster than even the best skill one could even hope to achieve?

      I mean, it sounds like using binary code to communicate in ASCII on IRC. It's entirely feasible, but err... so is joining the Amish...

    5. Re:What about everyone else? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Yes. You can even use a computer to send and copy CW at speeds most hams can't keep up with.

      --
      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
  5. Sad Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is eternal September all over again.

  6. Independence day Aliens by xquark · · Score: 3, Funny

    So how will we coordinate our counter attacks when the aliens from independence day come-a-knockin'?
    sms perhaps?

    --
    Arash Partow's Philosophy: Be a person who knows what they don't know, and not a person who doesn't know.
    1. Re:Independence day Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so fast, my friend.

      If you remember the Iranian Hostage Crisis, the only way the hostages could communicate was through tapping on the wall. . .in morse. Now I agree the likelihood of this happening to the average American is in your alien scenario category, but for the hopelessly paranoid, it makes a damn good idea.

      Also, it makes it a lot easier to cheat in class.

    2. Re:Independence day Aliens by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      By finding people who decided that learning Morse Code was worth the effort for some reason other than that it was a license requirement that they never used again?

      --
      You never know...
  7. Hasn't Bruce Perens been pushing this for years? by H4x0r+Jim+Duggan · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is Bruce Perens's thing, isn't it: The World's Most Silly Technology Law

  8. Code requirement by DJTodd242 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being an amateur myself (and have been so for 15+ years) I can picture the screams of horror from all of the 60+ year old operators out there. I'm in my 30s myself, and the code requirement for using the HF bands always seemed rather quaint to me.
    But honestly, it's probably a last ditch attempt to get more people using the amateur bands. The stereotype of the 65 year old retired operator in a motorised chair isn't too far from the truth.
    I forsee the day that usage is low enough that governments can justify clawing back more of the spectrum.

    1. Re:Code requirement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being an amateur myself (and have been so for 15+ years)

      That's an awfully long time to be an amateur. Have you ever thought of going pro? Or maybe your skills just don't cut it. Shit or get off the pot!

    2. Re:Code requirement by Threni · · Score: 1

      > I can picture the screams of horror from all of the 60+ year old operators out there

      The HAM nerds, right? The ones who say you're not supposed to talk politics etc - the rules seem pretty restrictive. Who wants to talk about what kit they've got all the time? Boring. You don't get people on the net constantly going on about how much ram they've got, their broadband modem manufacturer etc. Dropping the morse code requirement is a reflection of reality, not an attempt to shape it. I'm sure these old farts had a similar problem when Latin was declared dead.

    3. Re:Code requirement by ka9qpn · · Score: 1

      The larger problem is the perception of the general public of the average ham radio operator as the old white guy curmudgeon in the basement, surrounded by dusty racks of equipment, interfering with televisions, and growling at kids who show an interest in the Service. It's very hard to keep primary spectrum allocations when people don't know what you do over and above that stereotype. I have said for many years (and was elected to an American Radio Relay League leadership position by saying) that the image of ham radio as a rich old white guy's plaything needed to be supplanted quickly. Ham radio needs to become the premier emergency communications provider. It was proven during the hurricanes of '05 that Amateur Radio worked when everything else was obliterated. When the cell towers and landlines were swept away, it was the hams who were first with the most after the wind subsided. This is the type of selfless service that is growing in Amateur Radio, and the type of service to the community that will be necessary to prevent the allocations from being siphoned off by commercial interests. A codeless license with theory testing appropriate to the license privileges will go a long way to supplying those new operators, as it has in other countries. The implementation of this R&O will begin that process.
      Also, the 'I had to do it, why don't they' is a terrible rationale for disagreement. Times change. There is no widespread commercial or military use of Morse code. It is a pleasant pastime for those inclined. 55 years ago, my parents had to learn Latin and calculus to graduate high school. 30 years ago, I needed to have passed geometry and French. 10 years ago, my son didn't need a language and barely saw algebra. Do we all have valid high school diplomas? Answer: Yes, as the valid requirements for the certification were met at the time. These new licenses are as valid as any earned prior, and these new folks will become the backbone of the Service, just as their predecessors did.

    4. Re:Code requirement by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      If you've been in the hobby that long you know that back in the early 90's UPS made a grab for a chunk of the 220MHz band and got it, only to do nothing with it. Not to mention that the 70cm band is also home to wind profiler radar. You're right and I think we'll be pushed to frequencies below 6m as time goes on because right now we sit on some pretty sweet real estate with allocations in the 400MHz, 900MHz, 1.2GHz etc bands.

    5. Re:Code requirement by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Do we all have valid high school diplomas?

      Ummm. Has your son been promoted to the French Fry machine?

      (not meant as a personal attack)

      Telling kids "math isn't important" is an eggregious form of child abuse.

    6. Re:Code requirement by ka9qpn · · Score: 1

      Ironworker. He got remedial help through the trades. Has a learning disability, too.

      I didn't tell him that math wasn't important, it was all that he could process at the time.

    7. Re:Code requirement by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "The stereotype of the 65 year old retired operator in a motorised chair isn't too far from the truth."

      I'm 47, and while the old operators I've met are an interesting bunch, I can't find enough reason to become an operator myself.
      We don't have anything in common to talk about.

      "I forsee the day that usage is low enough that governments can justify clawing back more of the spectrum."

      Works the disaster response angle.
      MARS (which must have been wonderful in the pre-PC days) is no longer necessary with the advent of email.

      --
      "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
  9. A change which makes sense by wb8wsf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not unhappy to see the requirement go. I've been a ham for
    30 years, and while I have seen useful (very useful) things done
    with code, I was never enamored with the idea of *having* to learn
    it up front. I did, though with struggling and headaches. The
    time came when my elmer gave me the code test and I passed, just
    barely.

          As I see it today, getting people into ham radio is the
    important thing. Having to learn a particular mode before
    being allowed to join just doesn't make sense. And no one
    should think that having to know code was an effective barrier
    for the twits, such that they stayed out. In 1976 I heard
    language on 80M that was a great exercise in George Carlin's
    "7 dirty words"--and most of the speakers were Extra Class
    hams (highest license).

          CW *is* useful though, and I've come to embrace it for
    the VHF/UHF weak signal stuff I've been doing, where at
    time the luxury of a voice just isn't there; things are
    too weak. Also Moonbounce will require me to reall learn
    CW, which I am working towards, equipment wise.

          Yes, its the end of an era. But so what? Technology
    roars along, changing the way we communicate, but it has
    never changed the reasons for the 'why'.

          If you are contemplating becoming a ham, great, please
    do so. If you are a ham and bemoan the lack of CW now,
    get off your duff and start a CW appreciation class!
    Show new hams *why* its cool (and it is, though it took
    me 20+ years to realize that), and get them hooked on it.

    --STeve Andre'
    wb8wsf
    grid sqare EN82

    1. Re:A change which makes sense by snaz555 · · Score: 2, Informative
      CW *is* useful though, and I've come to embrace it for the VHF/UHF weak signal stuff I've been doing, where at time the luxury of a voice just isn't there; things are too weak.


      If you're going to send messages, which is probably what you'll want at low bandwidths, there's got to be better and more efficient encodings and transmission protocols than CW. Off-hand, how about not sending the message in order so transmission errors don't result in consecutive symbols lost, and with CRC/ECC techniques and encapsulation to boost the chances of recovery (and reduce sensitivity to noise/loss). Isn't this the kind of thing that makes experimenting with 'moon bounce' and such fun in the first place? Experimenting with encodings, compressions, recovery methods, heuristics, homing algorithms, etc?

      If I were part of the ham culture I'd be concerned that CW, by providing a predesigned but rather poor encoding and protocol standard, discourages innovation and entrenches mediocrity.

    2. Re:A change which makes sense by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      Off-hand, how about not sending the message in order so transmission errors don't result in consecutive symbols lost, and with CRC/ECC techniques and encapsulation to boost the chances of recovery

      Complexity. Using Morse code, you can send a signal right around the world with pennies worth of electronics. You can cover hundreds of miles on HF with a transmitter that runs off a single PP3 battery and uses a handful of components. You need a bit more than that to calculate CRC, unless you're *really* good at mental arithmetic.

    3. Re:A change which makes sense by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      That's right, and you could build it yourself. The beauty of CW is that it has no electronics overhead. It is a code, but it uses the wetware to "encode and decode" the message. I learned morse code at 5 wpm to get my novice ticket more than 15 years ago, but I never went further than tech because at the time I wasn't all that keen on learning more code. Now, I might go ahead and get higher licenses since it's "just theory." But the question remains, in my opinion, no matter how much you appreciate, respect, or understand ham radio: is there a point to getting a higher class license?

      --
      Flappinbooger isn't my real name
    4. Re:A change which makes sense by W2IRT · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In 1976 I heard language on 80M that was a great exercise in George Carlin's "7 dirty words"--and most of the speakers were Extra Class hams (highest license).

      Sadly, that kind of garbage is still there. Between the plethora of Rush Limbaugh wannabees (with their own gold-plated RE-20s!!), codgers describing their gall bladder surgery and the 4-land "pigfarmers-with-pitchfoks" types displaying all 20 of their IQ points, both 80 and 20m phone bands are painful to listen to more often than not.

      I usually try to catch Riley Hollingsworth's keynote presentation at Dayton, Timonium or some other hamfest every year, and it seems to be a constant - the biggest troublemakers on the HF bands, he claims, are 20-WPM Extras and 13-WPM Advanced-class licensees.

      On the other hand, CW is growing in popularity. Look at the recent big DXpeditions; 5A7A to Libya, 3Y0X to Peter the First Island and others. More QSOs in CW than any other mode, and by a large margin. And 40m CW is always the toughest nut to crack in any DXpedition.

      As for me, I hated CW when I passed my Canadian Advanced license exam in 1981 (15 WPM sending and receiving, 3 minutes solid copy, 100% accuracy required!). I put my key in a drawer after that and didn't touch it again until about 3 years ago. I'm back up to over 15 WPM now, and I'd say 80% of my QSOs today are in Morse. I may not be great at CW, but I sure enjoy using it. I hope the new codeless operators who get into HF will decide to pick up a set of paddles and come down to the bottom of the band and have a go. It really does expand one's horizons. And if you're a DXer, it's impossible to get your totals up without it!

      --
      Cheers, Peter, W2IRT
    5. Re:A change which makes sense by MrBoombasticfantasti · · Score: 1
      You can cover hundreds of miles on HF with a transmitter that runs off a single PP3 battery and uses a handful of components.
       


      I've been looking for a schematic for something like this. Preferably 40 meters, capable of over 4 hours of sustained transmission on a PP3. Range should be at least 50 miles. Of you know of a schematic that can do this, please let me know.

      --
      !ERR: Signature not found.
    6. Re:A change which makes sense by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      I do, but only in dead tree form. Easy enough, but you're going to need a pretty good aerial to cover 50 miles. I'd suggest looking in the ARRL or RSGB handbooks.

    7. Re:A change which makes sense by tylernt · · Score: 1

      What you want is a "mint tin" CW rig, such as the Pixie. Range is much more than 50 miles (depending on antenna), but I don't know what a PP3 battery is or how long it lasts.

      Just Google for "QRP" (low-power) transceivers.

      --
      DRM 'manages access' in the same way that a prison 'manages freedom'
    8. Re:A change which makes sense by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 1

      Dig around in the QRP community. Those folks find joy in creating simple rigs that fit in an Altoids can. And the whole point in QRP (well, a big part of it anyway) is using low power to communicate long distances.

      Start by looking here.

  10. Refining the point by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are plenty of other narrow-band modes well suited for DX, e.g. PSK31.

    A lot of the world, though, doesn't have computers coming out their ears like the rich countries do. But they can turn transmitters on and off.

    The reason to learn code today is for contacting a wide range of people in a wide range of countries, while conserving bandwidth and allowing operation under more difficult conditions. Automatic decoding of human-sent Morse code has been suprisingly troublesome compared to using a human brain for the purpose.

  11. As a relatively new ham operator... by Mystic+Pixel · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I see this from the other side. I got my Tech license last year, and I've been waiting to take the General test because I've been struggling to learn CW. What with trying to finish my EE degree, I haven't had the time.

    I'd heard about this a while ago, and was aiming to get general before it happened (out of pride, masochism, or maybe a little bit of both.) That's more or less moot now. But when I realize that it's a move to get more new people into the hobby, I can understand and appreciate it.

    I'm a member of the ARA at my college and we've been struggling to attract new members - we've got a great shack and solid equipment but only about 3-4 active members. Getting more people into the hobby is important right now; steps should be taken before it becomes a critical problem.

    KB3NIF

    1. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... by Loco+Moped · · Score: 1

      Getting more people into the hobby is important right now; steps should be taken before it becomes a critical problem.

      You want to get more people into HAM radio?
      Outlaw the manufacture and sale of radios which will transmit on ham frequencies.
      I lost interest when I realized that, other than memorizing a few test questions and knowing where to sign a check, there's no skill involved. If you got the cash and a working mouth, you're in. IOW, it's just a more-expensive version of CB radio.
      Force people to actually BUILD their own equipment, and maybe you'll get a higher class of user, one who'll actually appreciate the license to use the airwaves, and who'll have some valuable skills.

    2. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... by Nate+B. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Very interesting. At one time (back in the '30s I believe), it was a requirement that the applicant had to draw the complete schematic of his proposed station as part of the exam. However, to require that hams build all of their equipment would kill the service faster than the naysayers claim dropping the Morse exam will.

      Where would the new ham find the parts to build a radio? Many parts are already difficult to find. You say manufacturers would ramp up production? I doubt it as ham radio has a far smaller user base than Linux and look at the trouble we encounter with manufacturers supporting Linux on their hardware.

      While I think I understand your sentiment, it simply isn't practical. Ham radio today is about emergency communications more than anything else. Hams need reliable and agile equipment to fulfill that role. Nothing discourages hams from building their own gear (or modifying other equipment to work on the ham bands), and many still do either from scratch or by way of a kit. As with Morse Code it should not be a regulatory requirement.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    3. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Struggling?

      I earned my (5 wpm) Novice in 1968 when I was not quite 17, my (13 wpm) general a year later,
      and my Advanced a year after that. Then I started my EE studies in earnest, and got my 20 wpm Extra
      in May, 1972, two years before I finished my EE.

      But, obviously, each of us has different strengths and weaknesses, and varied interests.

      Hopefully, however, we can attract more folks into amateur radio, and train them properly in all
      modes (including Morse Code), so that they can understand what modes are best suited for each
      situation. For me, that includes using CW for weak signal VHF/UHF work, as well as under marginal
      conditions on the HF bands. I know others are quite content to just chatter on the local FM repeaters,
      which is fine. Perhaps we can pool talent to make better use of our spectrum allocations, and
      make our equipment and operating skills robust enough to serve the public interest during emergencies,
      particularly When All Else Fails...

    4. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I don't know that the parts would be that hard to find.

      The restriction would be pretty silly, since the IC manufacturers would make single-chip radios that could be sold in kit form, just throw a few passives around it. Single chip radio transcievers are pretty damn common, for stuff like GPS/Bluetooth, etc.

      What would be hard to find is components necessary to make high power stuff. 10 meters band would still be pretty active, since you can hack up some CB gear to work on 10 meters with very easy mods.

      --
      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
    5. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... by Mystic+Pixel · · Score: 1

      Woah, don't get me wrong. In my ideal world, the requirement would *still* be that an applicant submit the schematics of a proposed xmtr/rcvr, and subsequently, construct it themselves. I find articles such as http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/9708033.pdf very important. I'd go on, but it's quite late; please realize that I understand your sentiments. The problem is, we (the ham radio community) are losing potential members to the compsci/IT field at an alarming rate. Simply put, as much as I wish the situation was different, the ham community can't afford to be that exclusive anymore. Although I'm too young to have experienced it properly, I still regret the passing of a previous age, in the same way that I miss the age before Windows was standard (even though I've only really known the days of DOS, win2.11, and later.)

  12. Re:As a relatively new ham operator... (followup) by Mystic+Pixel · · Score: 2, Interesting
    (follow-up, since I forgot /. doesn't allow editing)

    I don't think the comparisons to Endless September are really justified. The difference is that to get the higher classes, people still have to pass more complicated tests. If they don't enjoy, understand, and appreciate the hobby, what incentive is there for them to do this?

    Sure, the ham world has it's share of inconsiderate jerks (I've encountered some of them on 2 meters myself) but ham radio is different than the internet in a number of important ways. First and foremost, commercial transactions are strictly forbidden.

    Endless September resulted from the commercialization of the Internet: the root cause was that net access was being marketed to the general public. Computers were becoming cheaper and the average person was being told that they *needed* one of these machines. No such thing is happening here. Ham radio still requires a fair amount of technical expertise, and the motivation for getting a license has to come from within. The equipment is still expensive, and violation of the rules still carries FCC penalties. (Which is a good counter-argument, I just realized: AOLers and idiots on the internet aren't subject to FCC fines.)

    Plus, without the commercialization, most people don't really appreciate ham radio enough to get into it themselves. Those that do (by and large) understand the rules and the reasons behind them, and if they don't, their day will come.

    KB3NIF

  13. A change that makes me sad by Cauchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am a ham who has held a Technician license for 9 years now. Technician gives all privs at the higher frequencies, and it does NOT require code. I never got a higher license because I never found time to learn code so this requirement was in fact holding me back. With that said, it makes me profoundly sad to see them drop this requirement as code is extremely useful for many applications, and I think it will significantly reduce the number of people who bother to learn code. I guess I'm just a sucker for nostalgia. It isn't like you needed code to get a license---you could work any and all ham uhf and vhf frequencies with a license that does not require code. With that said, I'll certainly be upgrading my license, sooner rather than later now. :)

    1. Re:A change that makes me sad by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      I think we will see code being picked up by more people who want to learn it to use it for some other reason. We will nearly always have operators who will find no need for the skill, and I suspect we will find operators looking for every edge they can get in a contest. (* like double the points just for each code contact you make.) And others who will be looking for ccdx awards in each band, and each mode. Likewise dxpeditions will end up at some grid square that no one has operated from in over 40 years, who will only operate in CW. You want the QSO for some reason, well they ain't listening in the phone bands.

      I also think that as a result we will find a lot of people even more willing to teach these operators code, because they are watching people learn a skill they want to use, not something they are going to throw away the moment they get their ticket. Architects happen to use computers to do almost everything they do these days. When I was in high school, the architectural drawing class used t-squares, 45 and 30/60 triangles, tri-rules in various scales, French curves, elliptical templates, and a metal shield for erasing lines that went beyond where you planned for them to end up. It took skill to use these tools properly. It's a skill that high school students today are not learning, because using the computer drafting tools is the marketable skill for the industry in general. There will still be architects who choose to learn the skills of old, because they find those skills interesting, and occasionally useful for their own purposes.

      -Rusty - kc0vcu

      --
      You never know...
    2. Re:A change that makes me sad by Phrogman · · Score: 1

      I have a friend who used to do architectural blueprints by hand, and was the only one left in his office who made them that way. He was far, far faster than the guys using the CAD systems to draft up plans. The only time he was slower was when a change to a plan had to be made and they could update just the specific section and reprint it and he was stuck with redrawing the whole thing.

      With regards to the article, I wouldn't miss CW all that much. I had to take a year of it when I was in the Canadian Forces, and never ever used it in earnest during a 10 year career as a military communicator. People used to dread being ordered to "move to alternate means" (meaning break out the key and start working in morse), and it was amazing how many keys were suddenly "broken" when they had checked out just fine when the det was deployed.

      I would enjoy getting into HAM I think, but for the expense of buying the equipment etc. I don't think I recall all that much about radio operations at the moment - other than voice proceedure which I am sure never leaves you - and I am sorry to say I don't really recall my morse all that well despite hundreds of hours in the simulators listening to it and sending it.

      I did meet guys who worked morse all the time, and some of them could listen to it and hear not the code character by character, but entire *sentances* at a time.

      --
      "The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
    3. Re:A change that makes me sad by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      Equipment costs are variable. I picked up a 240 wat multiband multiprotocol transmitter at ahamfest for $300. I may not be the newest radio on the block, but it can get me on the air once I have my general or extra ticket. (granted I need an antenna tuner and some sort of antenna, but one step at a time.

      I have seen shack in a box rigs go on e-bay for under $800.

      Dual band (VHF/UHF) HTs are available for under $100 used, and under $150 new.

      At the same time you can break the bank with acessories or radios. A functioning SDR setup is going to run about $1000. Some of the more impressive contesting rigs are upwards of $15,000. So if you are interested in getting all the bells and whistles, it can get as expensive as you want.

      -Rusty - kc0vcu

      --
      You never know...
  14. Back in the days... by Snarfiorix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having learned Morse code while in the Royal Dutch Navy and a love to tinker with electronic, I created a text- to Morse - to text application on my Sinclair ZX Spectrum K back in 1983 and hooked it up to an old AN PRC 10-A. I had lots of fun sharing the app and testing how fast we could push it (we got it to transmit and receive at 400 words per minute). Then we had the idea to transmit lists of basic code to each other so we could share apps for the old Sinclair... Of course it would end up having to retransmit because interference or some joker cutting in on the frequency.

    We kept tweaking the app until 1989 where we had a IM type of functionality, encryption (!) and we could "attach" binaries or act as a automated relay station. The old Sinclair was an ideal micro to grab your solder iron and make it interface with all sorts of electronics. I remember having much more fun with morsecode and that old Spectrum then when I got my first PC with DOS on it.

    Heck, I think I will head up the shed and dig up the Sinclair and the AN PRC 10-A.

    --
    Supporting MS products doesn't mean you have to like them.
    1. Re:Back in the days... by denttford · · Score: 2, Informative

      Careful with the encryption feature. Using it is an FCC violation.

      Lots of people dislike the FCC content regulations, like this ham, for example.

      --

      Leben Sie jetzt die Fragen.
    2. Re:Back in the days... by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Dude, you are hackerdom personified!

    3. Re:Back in the days... by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Section 97.117 of the Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. 97.117, stipulates that amateur station transmissions to a different country, where permitted, shall be in plain language and shall be limited to messages of a technical nature relating to tests, and to remarks of a personal character for which, by reason of their unimportance, recourse to the public telecommunications service is not justified.

      Jeez... is it just me or does that read like "The Telcos bought and paid for this rule to protect thier income streams?"

    4. Re:Back in the days... by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is based more on the international regulations where other signatory nations used their influence to protect their state owned telephone companies. Note that it is only referring to international communications.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    5. Re:Back in the days... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Actually, that is based more on the international regulations where other signatory nations used their influence to protect their state owned telephone companies. Note that it is only referring to international communications.
       
        I didn't say WHICH telcos... but apparently I had the right idea... stupidity.
  15. I might become one. by CCFreak2K · · Score: 1

    Radio hasn't ALWAYS fascinated me, but growing up with those cheap toy walkie talkies and watching my father (tech class, K6MTT if anyone cares) with his radio equipment (he's collected a lot in the last couple of years), my eyes have opened to the fact that even the regular consume headsets at Radio Shack were peanuts if you devoted time and money to something like that. After I turned to wireless Ethernet, I really got excited to the possibilities of radio. Now that a requirement like this has been dropped, I've become more motivated to getting a license. However, I don't know where to start. Where WOULD I start if I wanted to get a license and, more importantly, the knowledge of radio?

    --
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
    1. Re:I might become one. by Mystic+Pixel · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:I might become one. by stewbee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The ARRL has plenty of books on how to study for the FCC exams. I recently just received my technicians license, which is the most basic license. There are books there that will teach you all of the requirements that you need to learn to pass the FCC exam. However, if you want to learn about electronics, then any Ham will tell you to pick up a copy of the ARRL Handbook.

      I own the Handbook and am an electrical engineer by trade. The Handbook is certainly a book that will give you examples of how to build radios yourself without bogging the explanations down with a lot of math. If you like explanations with more mathematical rigor, then you will have to go elsewhere. However, the book does an effective job of explaining circuits with some very creative examples.

      The ARRL web site also has a directory of local clubs and events. Usually there is a point of contact associated with the club and they can give you a hand.

    3. Re:I might become one. by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      The ARRL Handbook, as good as it is, gets dense rather quickly. ARRL publishes a number of good introductory books. A couple that might be of use are Basic Radio and Understanding Basic Electronics.

      Another good book, long out of print but maybe available used in various places, is Understanding Amateur Radio. I picked up a copy of it back in the early '80s and it helped my self study of electronics immensely.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    4. Re:I might become one. by mmarker · · Score: 1

      I, too, just received my Tech. license. I did get one of the formentioned books from the ARRL which focused on the FCC licencing requirements needed. Somewhat disappointed in the text (it wasn't as in-depth as I would have liked, especially from a "how to operate" standpoint), but that can be made up from other sources like the aformentioned books and listening to people actuallying operating (ok... maybe not so much...)

      I also found some good online websites (I've lost the references...) that will quiz you using the question pools available to see if you know your stuff. Resist the temptation to memorize the question pool unless you understand the "why" behind the questions asked.

      Having said that, if you have a technical background (doesn't NEED to be electrical... this ChE passed easily), and can use some common sense (which helps remebering many of the simple FCC regulations), the test is a simple multiple choice exam. With the online study, and what you learn studying for Technician, you may even be able to pass the General exam as well (I came short by 3 questions...and I didn't even study for it!).

      As for the Morse requirement, I am having a hard time with it. I can hear the differences, but the brain is not doing so well in tying the rhythm with a letter. So, I'm happy that I can progress without knowing it, but at some point I will force myself to pick it up. (Been trying to decode a beacon on 6M around here... I know what it should be saying, but I haven't been able to pick up anything past VVV)

      Good luck!

      KC2QLC

      --
      "the deep things in science are not found because they are useful; they are found because it was possible to find them."
  16. Its the old story by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "_I_ had to learn it, so everybody else for all eternaty will have to learn it, too!".

    Plus the fact that you can create an aweful lot of baseless elitism by practicing a worthless and unneeded skill.

    --
    HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
    1. Re:Its the old story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not go one step further then - Why should people have to take a TEST to get the privledges to operate? Why not just turn the amateur service into a big brother of the CB bands? Maybe put a license on every milk carton. Yeah that's it. Sounds like you tried to learn the code and couldn't and are full of sour grapes, right?

    2. Re:Its the old story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to ranks of new amateurs. One of the new breed that we will be seeing on the ham bands soon with the chip-on-the-shoulder attitude, foul mouth and probably 10 credit cards run up to the max. M O R O N

      oh yeah - and this too: ditdit dahdidit ditdit dahdahdah dah

      As for your last comment - be careful what you wish for as the karma you give to others always comes back to you.

      Thank You FCC!

    3. Re:Its the old story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Plus the fact that you can create an aweful lot of baseless elitism by practicing a worthless and unneeded skill.

      Gee, it's just like owning "rare" diamonds. There are enough diamonds in the world, according to a recent report, that you could give each man, woman and child in the US one cupful of them. But the "elites" prefer to believe that the emperor does have clothes and that diamonds are rare. Just goes to prove elite includes stupid.

  17. learning Morse is like riding a bike by rohar · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In 1988 I took Marine Radio Operating and obtained a Canadian RGMC which required error free 20 wpm Morse Code send/receive and all of the electronics theory and regulations to be a commercial marine radio operator. The holder of a RGMC also was granted a HAM license from the DOT. I ended up in IT and never did work as a Radio Op., or even use my HAM license, but after a year of training, I never forgot Morse Code. I would imagine I would have to practise for a while to send/receive at 5 wpm (never mind 20wpm) now, but it's one of those learned skills that seems to stick. but if I am ever lost at sea...

    D dddd d Ddd d d DdD ddDd dD DdDd D DDD dDd dd ddd dddd ddD Ddd d
    The had to be in characters because apparently ./ considers any amount of .- as 'junk' and won't allow the post.

    I want a cwtext message interface for my cell phone, at least for sending. Has anyone heard of a phone that does that?

    1. Re:learning Morse is like riding a bike by rohar · · Score: 1

      NM, posting it as "code" worked a bit better

      - .... .   -.. . . -.-   ..-. .-.-.-. - --- .-.   .. ...   .... ..- -.. .

    2. Re:learning Morse is like riding a bike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The deek factor is hude?"

    3. Re:learning Morse is like riding a bike by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      I want a cwtext message interface for my cell phone, at least for sending. Has anyone heard of a phone that does that?

      I think there is one. There was press coverage sometime in the last year or so about morse vs sms for sending text messages after a couple of talk show hosts ran contests. It was covered on slashdot and IIRC in the comments you'll find a link to some software that does it.

    4. Re:learning Morse is like riding a bike by pcgabe · · Score: 1

      d = dash dot dot
      g = dash dash dot

      Easy mistake to make, if you're out of practice. ^_^

      --
      Don't put advice in your sig.
  18. double edged sword by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This new rule, is an attempt to bolster the number of people who use amateur radio frequencies. If amateur radio numbers continue to decline, the frequencies available for their use will be returned to the FCC, which will sell the "space" to the highest bidder. Some of the bands are extremely under used, and there are a bunch of companies who would pay top dollar for their own use. Pulling the morse code requirement will enable some who otherwise would not be able to achieve their license. I have mixed feelings. At least the theory requirements are still in place. Unlike when the FCC dropped the "license" requirements on the citizens band (11meter)radios, which caused the band to collapse under the weight of idiots, keeping the written exam will help weed out the noobs. 73's KB0GNK, licensed since 1990

  19. it was inevitable by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    that they would drop the code requirement. Years ago, the maritime (ships) board dropped the code requirement for ship operators. Heck, I think they use satellites or RTTY anyway. With the explosion of computers in communications, morse will be gone in a few years, save for those who still enjoy a good Q-So.

  20. they already have taken back by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    part of the 220mhz band, and some of the HF bands. Unless the usage climbs, look for the FCC to pull more of the UHF spectrum. Those bands are worth big $$$

    1. Re:they already have taken back by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      Errr, which part of any HF band has been taken back? There were some adjustments immediately after World War II, but we have gathered more HF spectrum over the past quarter century, not lost (okay, 27 MHz was part of Amateur Radio until the CB service was created in the '50s). We have gotten 250 kHz in three allocations at 10 MHz, 18 MHz, and 24 MHz in the 1980s and 5 "channels" at 5 MHz within the past few years. Back in the 1980s the allocation at 1.8 MHz also became uniform nationwide and useful to more hams. On HF we have had many gains of spectrum.

      Where we have lost is part of 220 MHz and some portions of certain microwave bands but we also gained 902-928 MHz.

      I expect us to gain more spectrum at MW (probably 500 kHz) within the next decade, but the microwave spectrum is at greatest risk.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    2. Re:they already have taken back by M1FCJ · · Score: 1

      Although this has nothing to do with FCC, worldwide amateurs also gained more space on 7MHz lately. Previously Region 1 was limited between 7.0 and 7.1MHz, now all 300kHzare avaiable. Yay! (I have to get my Yaesu reprogrammed at one point...). I think USA always had that region.

  21. Gnomes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stage 1: Learn morse-code
    Stage 2: ..-.. -. --. .--
    Stage 3: Profit!

  22. Thank God by proxy318 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That was the one thing holding me back from getting my radio license.

    --
    Saying your "phone ran out of batteries" is like saying your "car ran out of gas tanks".
    1. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto. The only things I know are S and O, and I learned those from a commercial on television (advertisement for S.O.S. pads, in which the dirty pots and pans clank out their plea). I'd pretty much given up hope of ever picking up a license.

    2. Re:Thank God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you wait a little longer, the genius' at the FCC will also drop the testing requirements, so we can destroy another hobby.

  23. Survivors Will Need Morse by SkyDude · · Score: 3, Funny

    After the nuclear holocaust, when we emerge from the caves, Morse code will be a necessary skill. So will knowledge of MS-DOS, hand cranking a Model T, using a buggy whip and reading an analog clock. The FCC is being very short-sighted.

    Apparently, so is Slashdot. In an attempt to be humourous, I couldn't post a series of Morse words. It kept rejecting the posting with the reason "Please use fewer junk characters." Huh.

    Damn nerds, what do they know.

    --
    == First cross river, then insult alligator.
  24. Some thoughts from a volunteer examiner by Nate+B. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have been involved with administering amateur radio license exams since 1992 and have overseen two separate exam teams since 1999. So, I have seen us transition from a rather complicated licensing structure to one that is a bit more sane.

    I hear comments that amateur radio is being "dumbed down" to match the output of the government schools. The truth be told, I have witnessed people from many walks of life be thoroughly confused by the old licensing structure. So, there it little doubt in my mind that changes needed to be made. As an examiner, the recent (2000 and now 2006) changes will make my life a bit easier. They also lessen the burden on the FCC's administration of the Amateur Radio Service which is a key factor behind the recent changes.

    As for the Morse Code requirement. When I started my self study of Morse in 1981, I truly believed that I would never be able to pass any test higher than 5 WPM. A few years later I did pass the 13 WPM (1985) and then in 1992 I passed the 20 WPM exam to obtain my Amateur Extra class license. I have used the code at various times throughout my ham radio career, but haven't ever gotten proficient enough at it to carry on a casual conversation with it. I have done well enough to enjoy some radio contests using the mode.

    While I should probably be in the camp that says "I had to do it, all newcomers should too", I am not. In the early '90s the FCC, in response to the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, made an administrative rule allowing anyone to obtain a doctor's statement claiming a disability that granted a waiver of the 13 and 20 WPM exams. As examiners we were required to accept the statement and grant the waiver. We could not question it any way. I personally saw several abuses of that rule and there was nothing I could do. The FCC was very specific in its mandate that only it had the authority to question the validity of any such statement.

    The upshot of this is that due to the medical waivers, the 13 and 20 WPM Morse Code exams had almost become a farce by the time Restructuring (the action that reduced the license classes from six to three and reduced the Morse exam to 5 WPM) was enacted in April 2000. Anyone wanting to operate on HF still had to pass 5 WPM as the FCC deemed that speed not a significant hardship and the USA needed to comply with its treaty obligations which required a knowledge of Morse Code for operators licensed to operate below 30 MHz.

    There are many reasons for hams to learn Morse Code in the future and a lot of them have already been stated here and elsewhere. The debate about whether it should be required knowledge is now moot so it's time for the amateur radio community to work toward the future. Morse Code (or CW) is one mode among many available for the Radio Amateur's use. As such, it can stand on its own and attract those interested in using it. I predict that the use of Morse Code on the amateur radio bands will continue for many years into the future by those that appreciate it.

    Preparing for an exam session will now mean that I just have to prepare the written exams for the three license classes. No longer do I need to drag various pieces of electronic equipment along to conduct a Morse Code exam. This relieves the exam teams of a significant burden and will speed exam sessions up considerably. It will also make exam sessions more consistent as the Morse Code exam was an area where many teams free-lanced and some even prided themselves on administering an exam that was very difficult to pass.

    Based on the elitism that I've seen demonstrated by too many hams over the years regarding the knowledge of Morse Code, I am not one bit sorry to see the exam requirement for it eliminated.

    --

    "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
    1. Re:Some thoughts from a volunteer examiner by bromoseltzer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have been involved with administering amateur radio license exams since 1992 and have overseen two separate exam teams since 1999. So, I have seen us transition from a rather complicated licensing structure to one that is a bit more sane.

      I hear comments that amateur radio is being "dumbed down" to match the output of the government schools. The truth be told, I have witnessed people from many walks of life be thoroughly confused by the old licensing structure. So, there it little doubt in my mind that changes needed to be made. Some questions come to mind about ham radio licensing -

      Why do we have licensing for ham radio? We license ham operators and auto drivers, but not CB/FMRS or Internet users. What's up with that? The idea is that if you're going to "drive" a kilowatt radio transmitter with widely variable frequency and potentially large antenna systems and worldwide propagation, you need to be qualified - to understand the damage you can do to other users and to the public if you don't observe minimum standards, etc. The risks involved with Citizens Band or the Internet are judged to be minor. (debatable, though!)

      Historically (like > 40 years ago), it really did take quite a lot of work and study to get yourself on the air, and the license exams were only part of it.

      Morse Code? Historically (again > 30 or 40 years ago), Morse Code (aka CW = continuous wave) was the only practical way for new hams to get on the air. If you are building your own equipment, this is still true! Minimum knowledge of Morse was a practical necessity, and it demonstrated earnestness. Exactly why it became part of the international convention (1934), I can't tell you.

      Why do we have a volunteer examiner system? Apparently the government, in its wisdom, still thinks licensing is necessary (and a treaty obligation under 30 MHz, perhaps), but it is not willing to allocate the resources to manage the examination program. The VEC exams seem to be a compromise -- not as "serious" as the old FCC administered exams (let me tell you!), but cheap and still a meaningful hurdle to pass.

      Are the license requirements relevant? This is the real question. In olden days, you had to be able to draw or recognize a misdrawn circuit diagram of a Hartley or Colpitts oscillator and know a fair amount of other practical electronics. You had to send and receive Morse at 5, 13, or 20 wpm, depending on license class. Today, other skills are more relevant - digital modulation and signal processing, computer interfacing, Internet services. Few people build their own equipment. The role of Morse/CW is much less central to ham radio, though still very popular for some of us. Reluctantly, I'd say it should have been eliminated years ago as a license requirement. Some of us will always work CW, just as some homebrew their gear and some do their own DSP coding. But it won't be a barrier for everyone else.

      73 de AA6E, "20 wpm Extra Class" ham
      --
      Fiat Lux.
    2. Re:Some thoughts from a volunteer examiner by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      As to the international requirement in 1938, I would suspect that at least part of the idea was to allow amatuer operators to communicate with ships at sea that were in trouble. At the time, ships RTOs consistently used CW to communicate with the ports they were approaching. Due to the nature of the Q codes ships RTOs used, as well as the general numeric nature of much of the information that would be sent, it was reasonable to presume that an Amatuer operator who knew International Morse Code, could communicate with a ship at sea which was in trouble.

      Likewise operators who were going to go into a disaster area at the time would generaly be taking equipment they felt they could work people outside of the affected area with, that was also reasonably portable. I suggest that most people would agree that a portable unit or setup that could send and receive CW in the 30's was significantly smaller and lighter than a similar setup capable of sending and receiving AM. Having some requirement that these operators demonstrate a specific competency with code at some speed was potentially useful in screening who would be operating within a disaster area.

      Not directly related to the above, but it comes up often enough as a question is 'why the three code speed tests? 5, 15 and 20 wpm.'

      Studies over time demonstrated that the student of Morse Code ends up going through three apparent phases in learning code. First is the association of the dits and dahs to the letter. If people associate the sound with an image, or something else pointing at the letter, it takes long enough to dereference the pointers getting back to the letter, that you can not effectively copy code at more than 3 or 4 wpm. So if you set the threshold at 5 wpm, you are ensuring that the operator does at least know what the letter sound association is beyond counting dits/dahs, or other associations.

      There are other stumbling blocks at about 13 wpm, and 18 wpm. Setting test rates at 15 and 20 wpm, allows th operator todemonstrate that they have gotten past those rates.

      Why would the FCC have considered it OK to only use the 5 wpm rate then? Because a good operator will adjust their transmit speed to reflect the remote operator's transmission speed. So if the only operator you can talk to is stuck at 10 wpm, a good operator can still work with them.

      Now that the international body that was requiring code for hf bands has pulled that requirement, countries are modifying their own requirements, and the US is just the most recent country to follow suit.

      kc0vcu - no code tech, Still interested in knowing and using code.

      --
      You never know...
    3. Re:Some thoughts from a volunteer examiner by gnu-sucks · · Score: 1

      Morse Code? Historically (again > 30 or 40 years ago), Morse Code (aka CW = continuous wave) was the only practical way for new hams to get on the air. If you are building your own equipment, this is still true!

      I've built several rigs and repeater systems, and I can't send CW. Not sure how CW would have helped. With today's circuitry, adding a modulation stage to a transmitter is only a few more parts. Granted, this was a much harder endeavor 30-40 years ago, but today, it's cake.

  25. They already did this... by supaneko · · Score: 1

    The Morse code test was required for anyone looking to get a license above "Technician" class. When I took my test to get my "Technician" license five years ago, the Morse code test had already been dropped.

    1. Re:They already did this... by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      But, only dropped for the Technician class and already back in 1991. This action drops the Morse requirement for all classes of amateur licenses issued in the USA. Prior to this action becoming effective, any licensee operating below 30 MHz must have demonstrated a knowledge of Morse Code.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
  26. Savoring the spite of "They should have to too!" by smchris · · Score: 1

    I got my General when it meant showing up at the FCC regional and after the thrill of trying to copy the 13 wpm (65 character/minute) the guy was sending, you had a five minute break before you had to get up before the group and send back to him with a straight key.

    For me, one of the hardest tests I've taken.

  27. Huh? by zeke-o · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't know where you get your information, but I've been an amateur radio operator since the mid-60's and I've never heard of any 'official emergency crew' using CW.

  28. About time with good reasons: by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

    1) It drastically lowers the "bar" to get the more advanced Amateur radio licenses, which benefits everyone all around.

    2) With more ham operators around, it means that in case of a major emergency (e.g., large-scale natural disaster or other calamity) communications will be faster since in a natural disaster just about all other means of communication--TV channels, commercial radio, land-line telephones and cellphones--will not work for some time. Indeed, during the 9/11 attacks in New York City a lot communication systems went down, and ham radio operators were pretty much among the only reasonable means of communication for days.

  29. That's a shame since by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. Re:That's a shame since by Rufty · · Score: 1

      That ignores the time taken to learn it.

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      Red to red, black to black. Switch it on, but stand well back.
    2. Re:That's a shame since by sootman · · Score: 1

      Mod parent +1,000,000. No sense mentioning that the test wasn't performed with a phone with a QWERTY keyboard, of which there are many.

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    3. Re:That's a shame since by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point is that the vast majority of texting is done with a standard 12-key phone pad. If you couldn't beat a couple of old guys with a straight key with your qwerty keypad, THAT would be sad.

    4. Re:That's a shame since by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
      I've learned both, and I found Morse Code much easier to learn, and better thought out. Morse Code is like the Lempel-Zif compression algorithm, i.e., the more common letters have a shorter code representation. Even with a significant assist from the compute power of the phone (auto word completion, etc.), Morse Code just seems more intuitive to me than texting.

      And please, don't even try to call those tiny dots on the phone's case a keyboard. :)

    5. Re:That's a shame since by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not a cell phone (or cell phone app) which takes morse code as input and sends text as normal?

      Or one which takes text and translates it to morse code (perhaps via the rumbler/vibrator normally used to "ring" the phone in silent/polite mode). One could then receive and understand a text message without ever looking at the phone.

      Of course, the next step would be the direct neuron-to-morse code adapter/translator... :-)

  30. I'm glad to see this requirement go. by paenguin · · Score: 1

    I'm an extra class operator and I have been running code practice sessions for the last year on a local repeater in an attempt to get more people into General class or above.

    One thing I have seen is perfectly good operators who are unable to grasp this mode. Either they can't hear it or can't decipher it. The vast majority of these Techs are moral people who will now have a chance to become first class citizens of HF instead of being stuck at the higher frequencies.

    I plan to announce the end of my code practice sessions this Sunday evening at 9 pm.

    Now, if someone wants to learn code, I'll go one on one with them and we'll get it done, but for many people, it's mud. And, now it's no longer required.

    Someone brought up an interesting analogy between learning Morse Code and learning to drive.

    Having to learn Morse Code to talk on the radio is like having to learn to shoe a horse to get your drivers license.

    --
    We should start referring to processes which run in the background by their correct technical name... paenguins.
  31. Anyone remember the Incentive Licensing debacle ? by COredneck · · Score: 0

    Very few people remembered the incentive licensing debacle of around 1963. For those who were licensed, after a certain date, you lost privileges such as frequencies to operate on unless you moved up to higher classes by taking the exams. The "Extra" ticket was one of the items from incentive licensing. Another effect from it was a lot of the ham radio stores went out of business and companies like Hallicrafters, Hammerlund, National lost business and ended up folding.

    Japan for many years did not require code even contrary to old ITU regulations. Because of this, they have many Hams and as a result, a good electronics industry.

    Seems like in the USA, the politicians keep making policies where we keep screwing ourselves. We outsourced manufacturing - a place where a blue collar workers can make a decent living and live a decent lifestyle. We are in the process of outsourcing our computer industry which provides good income for many people. Just for a short term buck, we f*ck ourselves in the long run !

    This change in policy is forward thinking for once. I got my General Class license back in 1983 (with 13 wpm) and Advanced in 1993. I thought about the Extra ticket but haven't had the time. One guy I remembered from grad school got his Extra ticket right before the 13 & 20 wpm exams went away permanently back around 2000.

  32. Re:Anyone remember the Incentive Licensing debacle by autocracy · · Score: 1

    I do think that this may have been one case where politicians listened. The HAM community has always had a large group strongly backing morse code requirements.

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    SIG: HUP
  33. Morse Code Requirement by DoctorPepper · · Score: 1

    Actually, I like this. I've been an Amateur radio operator (ham) for over 16 years now (since August 1990), and had to pass the 20 wpm Morse code exam to get my Extra class license back in April, 1991. I love Morse code and using the CW mode, and am trying to get my code recognition up around 35 wpm (long process).

    That said, I am also an ARRL Volunteer Examiner (VE), and have been for almost as long as I've had my Amateur Extra license. Since the ITU dropped the requirements for Morse code at sea, I have thought that the FCC's requirement for Morse code to get to the HF bands was really out of touch. I'm glad to see they finally rectified this.

    For the hams proclaiming this is the end for ham radio, I say sit down and STFU. Amateur radio needs to evolve with the times, and presenting an artificial barrier to entry to the HF bands was not conducive to this. Why should people have to learn one mode over all the others, that they probably won't ever use, and will forget the next day, just to get HF privileges? Those that want to learn and use Morse code will, the rest will use sideband, AM, FM or one of the ever popular digital modes.

    Amateur radio is under attack from the Internet and from cell phone usage. If we want to preserve our hobby, we need to be flexible in our attitude to the hobby. This is the 21st century, and hobbling an entire hobby to 19th century technology will be the death of it.

    73, Howard
    AC4FS

    --

    No matter where you go... there you are.
  34. Might as well be CB by KC1P · · Score: 1
    Yeah, I'm one of the carmudgeons who passed the CW tests in the old days and think it's a valuable experience for anybody. CW is the true beauty of ham radio anyway -- I mean if you just want to yack with people on voice, couldn't you, like, go out in public and actually get a LIFE with real in-person human beings???

    Anyway much more importantly, the CW tests are as good a way as any to test someone's level of seriousness and discipline. If we just let everyone waltz on in, well that's called CB and it's cacaphony. Many people won't act with even a basic level of maturity unless they're made to jump through a hoop or two (and it could be anything -- it'd be OK if they made us learn ASL instead).

    Finally, it's not as if the CW tests were hard in the first place. I passed the 5 WPM when I was 12 and the 20 WPM when I was 14, and believe me, I'm not a clever guy. All it takes is a little practice. By the time I got the basic alphabet down by getting my mom to quiz me, she knew it too without even meaning to (it was just easier to remember it than to look everything up on the chart). But everyone since then (1978) has pissed and moaned and whined as if it were the hardest thing in the world, and as usual the FCC caved. Well I'll be staying in the CW bands (the ones that are left) where it's safe.

    1. Re:Might as well be CB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think passing the Element 2 and 3 written exams qualifies as letting everyone "waltz right in" to HF. Aside from a few jerks on the local repeaters, Element 2 alone has filtered out most of the cacophony. Maybe things are different in your area.

      Frankly, I'm sort of sad to see the CW requirement dropped completely. To me, however, it's not a filter so much as it's a way to encourage people to learn a mode they'd probably think is impossible to learn otherwise. It's certainly not the fastest way to communicate, but it's extremely bandwidth-efficient and is pretty much the only way to do weak signal work.

    2. Re:Might as well be CB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CW is the true beauty of ham radio anyway

      No, RF technology is the true beauty of ham radio. CW is just one of many ways to use RF, and actualy is the least interesting in my opinion. Packet radio and ATV are much cooler ways of using the technology.

      Anyway much more importantly, the CW tests are as good a way as any to test someone's level of seriousness and discipline

      Oh come off it, there are plenty of technical barriers in the tests that take care of this. You have to be fairly serious to bother learning enough of the technical skills needed to pass the tests.

      If we just let everyone waltz on in, well that's called CB and it's cacaphony.

      We are not talking about letting everyone "waltz in". People still have to pass the tests, they just won't be forced to learn an outdated form of communication that they may not be at all interested in. No one is suggesting droping the tests and making things as open as the CB world. Ham's will still be people who are much more capable than your average person, or CB user for that matter.

      Many people won't act with even a basic level of maturity unless they're made to jump through a hoop or two

      Give me a break, I have heard plenty of immaturity out of even the most skilled Hams. Just because you are smart doesn't mean you won't tell a dirty joke now and then...

      Finally, it's not as if the CW tests were hard in the first place.

      Well, for some of us they are. And with people out there like you self, who seem to have an elitist attitude about learning CW, it makes it difficult for the rest of us to enjoy the hobby.

      Well I'll be staying in the CW bands (the ones that are left) where it's safe.

      The phrase "crotchety old man" comes to mind...

      Well, you have fun keying away about how great life was in the 1950's, and you keep hiding from vulger language since it seems to scare you so much ("where it's safe"?). Mean while the rest of us want to do more than just hand modulate a carrier wave all day... and now we will be able to with out this useless barrier in the way...

    3. Re:Might as well be CB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Couldn't agree with you more. I am a Extra class who was licensed as a novice in 1977 and though I had a hard time at first getting my code speed up to 20+ WPM, I did pass it on the first try in 1985 and still use it to this day. As a DX'er on 2 mtrs and 70 cm, It is the only mode that gets thru during aurora openings. Again, the more people bitch and moan, the more they get their way. What next - no testing? Don't laugh - the way this country is going, I am waiting to read about a lawsuit against the FCC that will try and overturn testing. I won't be at all surprised.
      SK

    4. Re:Might as well be CB by John+Miles · · Score: 1

      Anyway much more importantly, the CW tests are as good a way as any to test someone's level of seriousness and discipline.

      Couple of questions:

      1) How does that explain the behavior on 75 phone? Every one of those wannabe-Rush Limbaughs passed their CW test.
      2) So: built anything interesting lately?

      A ham license is the ticket, not the ride. Nobody really seems to get that.

      --
      Dahlmann tightly grips the knife, which he may have no idea how to use, and steps out into the plain.
    5. Re:Might as well be CB by netcrusher88 · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you're part of the reason that Amateur Radio doesn't look so attractive to people anymore. I'm a Tech class (no code) licensed less than a year before restructuring. Of about seven people in my class, I was the only one to pass novice, much less tech, written exams. Those questions (yes, even the new Technician exam - I've helped people study) are plenty to keep out people who don't give a damn about the hobby. For a time, I was an ARRL member, and there were times when I almost did dedicate time to learn Morse code. But then I'd see a letter to the editor in QST about how removing the Morse requirement (back before the ARRL took an official stance) would ruin the hobby, and how if it happened they'd just go stay in the CW bands and tap out messages too fast for the newbies to copy anyway. The fact is, it wasn't the difficulty of Morse that made me lose interest. I've used systems similar to Code Quick before, and I know it would work for me. I think I didn't want to wind up running into your kind whining about the good old days when CW ruled the airwaves. Fortunately, everyone I've met on the VHF bands that I AM allowed access to has been extremely friendly. For this reason I probably will study for and upgrade to General or Extra in the near future.

      So please, follow through on your threat and stay in the CW bands, at least if you're going to be like that. If you want to see Amateur radio die, you've got the right idea. Don't mentor newbies, don't try to show them just how great CW still is. Ignore them, let them see that they aren't wanted.

      Amateur radio's allure to me has always been the ability to speak to people far away, be it the space shuttle, Iraq, Germany, South Africa, or maybe just a few hundred miles over a regional repeater net. (such as the Evergreen Intertie) Removing the CW restriction makes it easier to achieve this goal for all interested people, and I can see no way that something that can encourage individual, international ties can be a bad thing.

      For the record, I plan to learn Morse code at some point. I always wanted to build and use the Tuna Tin Transmitter. It's just that between High school and now college, family, friends, a job, and so forth, it's hard to find any time at all.

      I've rambled a bit here, so back on topic: don't shun new people. If you think they should know Morse code, then lead them to good resources. Send slow text for them, so they can learn to copy in real-world conditions. Mentor them. Mentor us, I should say. Otherwise, those few remaining CW bands will be a mighty lonely place once your generation is gone.

      -73 and good night de WN5FIZ

      --
      There's an old saying that says pretty much whatever you want it to.
  35. No different by KB3JUV · · Score: 1

    I passed the 5WPM but I think its time for it to go. I've never used it, and I don't think many people will unless they truly want to. Even without the requirement, there will still be plenty of CW on the air, and plenty of people who will go out of their way to learn it. Justin KB3JUV

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  36. It's impossible to join the clubs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well for someone which would love to get their license it almost impossible to join a club. I have been trying to get into the ham stuff over 4 years. All the clubs in the Toronto area refuse to answer e-mails, or just expect the person to be in the university or college. There was one person that was going to teach me, but he was in his late 90's. He's dead now, so I'm out of luck.

    I fed up.... I can't get into HAM radio because the people/clubs are too hard to access. Reading the books is no replacement for interacting with real HAM's.

    I wish the colleges and Universities would just offer courses for HAM. Because the club scene is just does not work. I could sign up get instruction from a professor and write the exam. Done.

    I have a weather station sitting in my backyard which I can't get transmitting weather information by radio.
    I also would love to get into APRS with my car computer.

    It's a exclusive club scene people. Outsiders are not welcome.

    1. Re:It's impossible to join the clubs. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      You could have gotten your VHF license without CW. Once they heard you on the local repeater a few times, the clubs would have been all over your ballsack to get the new blood.

      You didn't try very hard. Most ham clubs do want new members, but if you can't even be bothers to pass the no-code exam first they probably aren't going to bother with you.

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      I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
    2. Re:It's impossible to join the clubs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit.

      I Picked up the Gordon West Technician class study guide in October, and was able to ace the (US) Technician exam in November. I'm no genious (ask anyone around here) and managed to pull it off, so the only thing stopping you is you.

      Do a google search on "canada ham study" or somehting like that and get started. Most of all, quit yer f'n whining.

  37. Morse code for a High School Diploma by InklingBooks · · Score: 1

    Imagine you're in a tight spot and your only communication tool is a radio with a dead mike or a flashlight, not an unimaginable situation. If you don't know Morse code, you're not only in trouble, you're likely to end up dead. Morse or something like Morse (such as the code used by Vietnam War POWs) will always be useful.

    Personally, I think rudimentary Morse code, along with basic hand signing and a useful second language such as Spanish ought to be a requirement for all high school diplomas. If you don't learn it, you'll be stuck flipping burgers.

    But then I think students should actually learn something in high school, a radical idea that apparently runs contrary to what most public schools in this country think "education" is all about. No dodge ball in grade school, it might hurt someone's self-esteem. No courses that take effort in high school, again it might hurt someone's self-esteem. Yes, we can't do anything that might reveal that some of us are lazy and stupid can we? You see that in the whinning posts here. "Oh," they say, "it actually takes effort to learn the code. I can't stand that sort of thing. Trying to think sets my head all abuzzing."

    I might add that Morse code can be very useful today. Tests have shown that people can text message far faster with it than with the kludgy keys sequencies used on cell phones. And the folks who designed Morse code were smart. Vowels that are such a burden to enter with a cell phone that they're left out are a snap in Morse code. E is a dit. T is a dah. You can enter them in a flash.

    And despite what they taught you by implication in publik schul, you're not dumb. You can pick it up in a few weeks using easily available software.

    --Mike Perry, Seattle, KE7NV

    1. Re:Morse code for a High School Diploma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not teach kids how to knit before they can get their diploma?

      You suck, and your kids (if you've been with a woman) hate you.

    2. Re:Morse code for a High School Diploma by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      Imagine you're in a tight spot and your only communication tool is a radio with a dead mike or a flashlight, not an unimaginable situation. If you don't know Morse code, you're not only in trouble, you're likely to end up dead.

      If it's a radio, it had better be ham-band capable; if it's a flashlight, you'd better be across the street from a Hamvention. Otherwise, good luck finding someone on the other end who knows Morse.

      NY0F

  38. Emergencies Demand Morse Code Knowledge by ka1ser+s0ze · · Score: 1
    My ham friend intercepted a boater caught in a hurricane 1000 miles away that could only transmit morse because of radio damage. He informed 911 and they actually rescued the boater.

    If you are trapped and the only way to communicate is by hitting something or the like, morse is essential.


    With morse, you can send a message with a welder, smoke, etc.

    One of the traditions of ham radio operators is their help in disaster areas. Not knowing morse is like... not owning a gun in my book.

    I laugh, on Letterman or Leno or ... they had 2 morse code guys race 2 text message nerds and the morse guys totally smoked them.

    Frankly, I think morse code should be taught in school so that everyone has at least a rudimentary knowledge of it.

    1. Re:Emergencies Demand Morse Code Knowledge by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      You don't need to know 25wpm CW to send SOS with a welder. I think 95% of the US population would recognize SOS in CW, it's been in a zillion movies.

      As for sending position, I'm sure someone could make up some simplistic system to send the numbers (if they even knew their position in such a situation) without knowing the real CW numbers.

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    2. Re:Emergencies Demand Morse Code Knowledge by Dorceon · · Score: 1

      You've just given me a great idea: Using a gun to signal in morse code!

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  39. Its about time. by davmoo · · Score: 1

    There is nothing wrong with code, and I think there should always be some reserved space in the band plans for only cw. Those who enjoy it should be allowed to use it.

    But in the 21st century, requiring the knowledge of morse code to get a ham license is like requring one to successfully demonstrate how to start a hand-cranked auto before one can get a drivers license.

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    I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
  40. End of an era by Man_Holmes · · Score: 1

    What attracted me most to the hobby of ham radio was that it was an elite fraternity. It wasn't that difficult, but it required you to make some effort to join. Contrast that to the mess of CB radio where anyone with the price of a radio can belong.

    The hobby may indeed gain in popularity but the great influx of new operators will change it and not for the better. The move to dumb down the hobby will not end with the elimination of the morse code requirement. How much longer will it be before the anti-morse contingent cheerleaders are lobbying to make the written tests easier or eliminate them all together?

    In a few years the bands will be full of nothing but lids, kids and space cadets. That makes me quite sad.

    Man Holmes
    Licensed 40 years

  41. Shouldn't FCC drop ham radio completely ? by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 1

    After all, ham radio is no more what it used to be: try listening to the frequencies used by radio amateurs, and ask to yourself if these frequencies shouldn't be used for something more useful (emergency services managed by real professionals, wireless networking, broadcasting, etc.). There is no more real experimentation being done today by radio amateurs, and internet offers a better way to communicate, without the trouble of getting a licence, buying a station, raising an antenna, and so on.

  42. Freaking sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was the one thing holding be back from getting my general license and actually transmitting.

  43. Chiming in by TVmisGuided · · Score: 1

    As another VE (volunteer examiner), as well as one who had to learn the code to obtain the Technician-class license some time back, here's my two cents' worth (save up the change for a root beer or something).

    The Morse Code isn't dead. Groups such as FISTS will make sure it sticks around on the ham bands for quite some time. Even non-members will continue to operate it, if for no other reason than the maintenance and improvement of a traditional skill. I prefer to operate digital modes -- SSTV and PSK31 are my favorites -- but I still want to improve my CW skills to the point that I can do some contesting using the code.

    There's still another area where the Morse is not going away yet...that of maritime radio service. An applicant for licensure as a ship's Radio Officer must possess at least a 2nd-class Radiotelegraph License, which requires both a sending and receiving test at 20 words per minute (300 characters/min using the Paris standard). Granted, with the deployment of GMRSS the Radio Officer is becoming less and less a fixture on many transoceanic vessels, but they're still there. Not just them, either...applicants for both Master and Mate licenses still have to be able to copy light signals, which are sent by Morse Code.

    --
    All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuits play only bit parts.
  44. Morse is fun... by guru312 · · Score: 1

    Goodbye Morse Code...

    I've been a radio amateur for 55 years...since age 11. Holy shit, that makes me olde! Learning Morse was a rite of passage thing and one of the peak experiences of my life...along with first parachute jump, first solo take-off and landing, first flight in an airplane that I built and first sex. Well, maybe not up there with the first sex, but you get the idea.

    I spent 2.5 years in the 82nd Airborne Division during Viet Nam. Fortunately from me, not in-country. During my tour with the 82nd, I was one of only two people out of two dozen in my unit who could copy Morse well enough to actually use it as a communications medium during combat. The other person was a career sergeant who happened to get a big kick out of operating with Morse. The point: two dozen or more radio operators whose Army job classification required Morse ability couldn't use it for communications. This was 1960-61 when the most reliable means of communication in the jungle s of 'nam and Cambodia was Morse code.

    Let's see what happens when a nuke war EMP knocks out all our IC-based systems and we have no tube radios for commo.

    Had the Internet existed when I got into ham radio I wouldn't have bothered learning code.

    WB2ZTE

    1. Re:Morse is fun... by n3umh · · Score: 1

      "Let's see what happens when a nuke war EMP knocks out all our IC-based systems and we have no tube radios for commo."

      Uhhh... no, let's not. I'd like to avoid the whole nuke-war thing.

      plus I'd rather have an Elecraft K2 stored in a Faraday cage if it were to happen.

      Tube rigs are great at surviving EMP, but you're not going to run one off your car battery for too long!

      That said, i'm 27, ham for 11 years, and about 80% CW op.

      Dan, N3OX

  45. Not just western nations... by bluto00 · · Score: 1

    more like the whole world.

  46. another article by zogger · · Score: 2, Informative

    He posted an update on this last night at Technocrat

    http://technocrat.net/d/2006/12/15/12273

  47. Few get the real point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CW is brain pleasure. The pros and cons of the practicality it offers is beside the point. Once one has proficiency sufficient to allow the stream of characters to magically meld into words and phrases without effort, then one experiences an altered state that I suspect has ramifications for continued synapse health.

    CW is alive and well, especially in EU. I'd say the Russians are likely the world's best CW ops.

    NH7O

    1. Re:Few get the real point by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      For those of you that have achieved this level of proficiency, do understand that not everyone is able to. And it does work the other way. Years back I helped teach a class that included an older gentleman, a WW II vet. He had been a radio operator in the Pacific and wanted to get back on CW. For him it was like getting back on the bicycle, he was a natural. However, getting him through the Novice written was hard for him and us (the instructors). We finally did it, but he never did get beyond Novice class as he just wasn't able to grasp it. He is now a silent key, but while he was licensed he did get hooked up with some other vets and had a great time on the air.

      Quite simply, some folks can accel at one thing that others find quite difficult. It may have nothing at all to do with motivation. It is just how we are.

      I've also learned not to judge other hams based on their technical proficiency. I just hope that some of the Code crowd can learn to do the same.

      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
  48. Troll by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    9-11 changed everything.

  49. 73 by batquux · · Score: 1

    Fist off, a 5wpm test isn't as much of a barrier as everyone likes to believe, especially the way the test is formatted. Consider that you will get a city, state combo all spelled out...so if you get Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and manage to get ".itts.bur.., .enn....a.ia" you can pretty much guess the rest and you're one character away (period) from having 25 in a row (all you need to pass). Morse code is interesting, give it a chance.

    That said, this is probably overdue. If it seems unfair to the old-timers, remember that the new Technician class test has stuff on it that didn't even exist when they took their Novice exams. If you don't want a bunch of "no-code schmucks" on your bands, remember that most of those DX stations you work now don't have to pass the code either. Things change.

  50. So what happens to Technicians? by blindseer · · Score: 1

    The FCC said that it will no longer maintain separate privileges between Technician and Technician Plus. Does that mean Technicians gain the privileges of the Tech Plus or do the Tech Plus lose its HF privileges?

    People ask why there was a Morse code test to begin with. What I was told at one time was that it was to allow the US Navy, the group that issued Amateur radio licenses way way back when, wanted to be able to order Amateurs off the air if they needed a frequency. This was because while the Amateurs could build what ever radio they liked the Navy had a large number of CW radios which could not be replaced on a whim. I was then repeatedly berated to stop spreading such a myth but was rarely given the real reason that Morse code testing was put into place.

    So, this is the REAL reason that Morse code was required of Amateurs. Long ago when spark gap transmitters roamed the earth there were many different "alphabets" in use. The only way to communicate was with on/off keying, now commonly called CW, using short and long tones and short and long spacing in between the tones one could portray letters and numbers. There was the US Navy code, the Royal Navy code, the American Morse code, the Continental Morse code etc. So unless you knew what the code was it was hard for people to understand each other. So by international agreement they agreed on the International Morse Code. Amateurs were then required to know it since voice communication was rare on the radio at the time.

    --
    I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    1. Re:So what happens to Technicians? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excerpted from http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2006/12/15/104/:

      ... the FCC's action in WT Docket 05-235 appears to put all Technician licensees on an equal footing: Once the R&O goes into effect, holders of Technician class licenses will have equivalent HF privileges, whether or not they've passed the 5 WPM Element 1 Morse examination.

      So, it sounds like they're promoting Technicians instead of demoting Tech. Pluses.

    2. Re:So what happens to Technicians? by sonicsft · · Score: 1

      http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/ DOC-269012A1.pdf:
      > With today's elimination of the Morse code exam requirements,
      > the FCC concluded that the disparity between the operating
      > privileges of Technician Class licensees and Technician Plus
      > Class licensees should not be retained. Therefore, the FCC,
      > in today's action, afforded Technician and Technician Plus
      > licensees identical operating privileges.

      It would appear at the effective date of the order no-code tech licenses will have full tech+code privileges.

    3. Re:So what happens to Technicians? by Nate+B. · · Score: 1
      People ask why there was a Morse code test to begin with. What I was told at one time was that it was to allow the US Navy, the group that issued Amateur radio licenses way way back when, wanted to be able to order Amateurs off the air if they needed a frequency. This was because while the Amateurs could build what ever radio they liked the Navy had a large number of CW radios which could not be replaced on a whim. I was then repeatedly berated to stop spreading such a myth but was rarely given the real reason that Morse code testing was put into place.


      It has been a long time since I read 200 Meters and Down which is a good history of the early days of amateur radio. Your speculation that the code requirement was pushed by the Navy is probably right on the mark. A century ago the Navy wanted regulate wireless, but civilian interests persuaded the government to put the Dept. of Commerce in charge of wireless regulation. Since voice wasn't in common use, the government had to make sure that radio amateurs could be proficient enough in Morse Code to be able to recognize emergencies and possible shut down orders.

      It certainly became a requirement for a more legitimate reason than as some licensing filter.

      BTW, the Navy was still using spark by the time a lot of hams were using CW (which means Continuous Wave and now includes such modes as AM, SSB, FM, RTTY, etc. and not just Morse Code) based telegraphy. However, the Navy and the hams were by that time segregated as the hams were banned to wavelengths 200 meters and shorter (1.5 MHz and higher) while the Navy had the long thought desirable longwave frequencies for their long distance work. However, the hams would have the last laugh as being banned to the shorter wavelengths meant that they were forced to develop CW based telegraphy as King Spark just didn't work very well on the "short waves". They also discovered that CW meant much lower power was required as the bandwidth was narrower and that the shorter wavelengths actually propagated farther! More research resulted in an understanding of the ionosphere and the effect that sun spots have on it.

      It was widely believed back in the day that banning amateur radio to 200 meters and down would be the death of the service. Certainly there were many interests that hoped so. Instead it turned out to be a boon to science and worldwide communications. It is quite difficult to project what the future holds for amateur radio today, but remember, this is a service that has been pronounced dead many times before over the past century.
      --

      "Insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result."
  51. The Sky is Falling... by Qyouth101 · · Score: 1

    I had expected to see more coments about the sky falling in, and it being the end of the hobby, which I did, actually over on qrz.com, however as a No-Code Tech, I am gleefully excited, and have already ordered the theory books for General and up, I look forward to being able to operate in HF.

    K6WLF

    --
    "Technology is too complex today."
  52. Damn! by mrbill · · Score: 1

    I agree with the various reasons for the elimination of the Morse test, but I wanted to pass the 5wpm exam (its a pride/accomplishments thing) before they made this change.

    Now I guess I'll just need to find a ham who is willing to "test" me and say "okay you know it good enough to pass the test" since there will be no more official tests.

    I have nobody to blame but myself; got my Technician license (KD5LQR now K5WCB) in 2000 and have had plenty of time to do it before now.

    1. Re:Damn! by Spookticus · · Score: 1

      I remember when I went to take my cw test all they did was play an audio tape. All you had to do was listen to it and write down what was transmitted and answer questions based on your notes taken. I also got my license just before they re-structured the license,so that makes me one of the few tech-plus's out there. well anyways...heh ~KG4GTF

    2. Re:Damn! by n3umh · · Score: 2

      WCB, just get on the air when the rule change goes through.

      You're automatically going to have general-level CW privileges on 80,40,15, and 10m as soon as the rule change happens, with no tests. Make the most of it, and make your "exam" your first HF CW QSO instead!

      Trust me, it will be scarier and more challenging than the test.

      Dan, N3OX

    3. Re:Damn! by mrbill · · Score: 1

      True, you've got a point there.

  53. HAM radio license requirements by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    Even without the code requirement, getting a license still requires a good deal of work. Every class of license exam includes quite a bit of electronics theory that I think will help to weed out the people who aren't up to the qualifications of having a license and previously would have been turned off by the code requirement. On top of that there's the expense of buying (or building) the equipment and setting up an antenna, so I doubt we'll be flooded by morons any time soon.

    That bring up something I was wondering about, if those who want a license are still required to know enough about electricity to build thier own radio. I'd like to get my license but it's been too long since I've worked with electrical equipment so I no longer retain the knowledge. I've been thinking about getting one of those electric/electronic learning labs that has the solderless boards and different parts and comes with a book or booklet with different projects you can make. Used to be that places like RadShack would have a few different sets but I've only found one or two in stores lately., and none for communications or sw radios.

    Falcon
    1. Re:HAM radio license requirements by kefoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not that you have to know enough to build a radio. On the electronics front it's mainly knowledge about how basic circuits work, like oscillators and amplifiers. Much of the exam is on FCC rules and is simple memorization. Probably the most complicated thing you'd have to do is calculate the resonant frequency of a simple oscillator circuit or the proper length of an antenna for use on a given band, although I'm guessing a little here, since it's been fifteen years since I got my license. The license manuals teach you everything you need to know to pass the exam.

      Look here for an amateur radio association in your area. The members are usually happy to help someone get their license. It's been said that every ham is responsible for bringing someone else into the hobby.

    2. Re:HAM radio license requirements by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. It seems the requirements changed since the last tyme I knew what they were. If I recall right back then you had to be able to build your own transceiver.

      Falcon
  54. Re:Shouldn't FCC drop ham radio completely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thus speaketh the voice of ignorance.

    Ignorance in and of itself isn't bad. It can be corrected. However, being ignorant and proud of it is unforgivable.

    You sir, should learn something about what Amateur Radio is doing today before you make such misinformed assumptions. Publishing your assumptions is evidence of your pride - or is it simple arrogance.

    Now, CW will continue - just not as a barrier to HF access. What's left to be seen is if you'll exercise the will and discipline to learn the truth about ham radio.

  55. Only 10-meter privs... all plans still require CW by thule · · Score: 1

    All this rule change did is allow Tech/Tech-Plus phone/data privledges on 10-meters. Novice/Tech/Tech-Plus do not get phone/data privledges on any bandplan below 10-meter. What does this mean? It means that to anything other than CW, all Novice/Tech/Tech-Plus people must upgrade to General licences. Once a person has at least General privledges they can use almost all the available bands.

  56. No Morse Code requirement?!? by _Griphin_ · · Score: 1

    WTF?!? That seems like any moron can get his or her licence now, that's so not fair!!!

    1. Re:No Morse Code requirement?!? by n3umh · · Score: 2

      All the present no code technicians will automatically get privileges on HF when this thing goes through, and almost all those allocations will be Morse-only! I think it's really clever. You can easily upgrade to General or higher by taking more written tests, but current Tech licensees are going to get an instant upgrade when the new rules go into effect. Good incentive to learn the code anyway.

      Morse communication by on-off keyed CW is hardly going to die. It requires only the most basic equipment and allows a very high signal-to-noise ratio while still being decodable by the human ear. Its narrow bandwidth makes very good use of transmitted RF power when what you're interested in is passing a small amount of information reliably under adverse conditions.

      There are good narrowband digital modes being developed that can give Morse over CW a run for its money as far as getting through in low signal-to-noise situations, but some of them still fall apart in certain propagation situations. A couple of nights ago, I heard Indiana and Maine on 144 MHz from here near Washington DC. The signals were propagated by scatter off of ionospheric ionization related to the strong auroral activity that was going on at the time. This mode of radio scatter causes any radio signal to break up into a severely buzzy, doppler-broadened hash of its former self. Morse can still be copied easily under these conditions; I'm not sure much else can. As far as morons getting their licenses, listen to the entire range of 3600-4000kHz sometime before this rule goes through and ask yourself if the Morse exams are really keeping morons from getting their licenses.

      73,
      Dan
      N3OX, formerly N3UMH

  57. I suspect his will go over on the ham bands about by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    as well as the '90s invasion of Usenet by AOL subscribers. Whatever its disadvantages, I think the Morse requirement filtered out dilettantes, who wound up as faux Southern rednecks over on the Citizens Band freqs. 10-4, good buddy?

    Get off my lawn.

  58. a bit late by RobertinXinyang · · Score: 1
    I think it is definitly twenty and probably thirty years too late. For all intents and purposes, the oldtimer frat mentality has already killed amateur radio.

    For those who wnat to point at opperating nodes or numbers of licensed (not active) hams and claim that it is still vidrant and alive, I say to look at the number curve, not the numbers. In addition to looking at the enumbers, read Bowling Alone to have a firm grasp on what they mean.

    Quite simply, this came too late.

    KD6EVH

  59. NO CW == GOOD MOVE by sciop101 · · Score: 1
    Real Emergency Nets never used CW.

    Real emergencies are local and VHF/UHF voice dominate.

    --
    The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know.[Harry Truman]
  60. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    Nothing says improved quality like reduced standards...

    --
    [o]_O
  61. FINALLY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've tried to pass the test to upgrade from Technician but I keep getting killed on the code portion. I know it was only 5wpm but for some reason I always froze up. How awesome would it be to get general. :D

  62. A recent technician's licencee's perspective by johnny+cashed · · Score: 2

    I recently got my codeless technician's license. I have yet to make my first contact. Here are among my interests in amateur radio:

    1) the lack of centralized infrastructure, hams own the infrastructure, it is decentralized and therefore it can operate when other infrastructures are down (telephone, power, cell towers, provided the ham has his own power source, be it generator or solar or wind). This is primary reason why ham radio becomes important in time of natural disasters.

    2) the ability to communicate over long distances, sorta like having international (and national) pen pals. Sure I could write letters (which are dependent on a working mail service) or send email(again, dependent on infrastructure beyond my control) or make a telephone call (again, dependent on, well, you get the point).

    3) it is non-commercial, so I'm not having to pay fees to communicate, as I own the infrastructure (providing power may or may not have to rely on someone else's infrastructure) Talk minutes, ha, they are meaningless on amateur radio.

    As far as dropping the morse code requirement, I'm all for it, mostly so I can get international contacts, which is hard to do on 50mhz and above. I still may use CW (morse) but I would be doing it through a computer, as I believe I can type faster than I could code, plus I don't have a huge interest in learning code. What I'm saying is, one can take advantage of CW these days, without actually learning to do the code yourself, you can use a computer to do the interpretation. I'm also interested in packet radio, and other forms of amateur radio which take advantage of the merging of computers, radio and now the internet. The lower frequencies enable international communication, in areas which might not have infrastructure, and I feel it is slightly insulting that I have to learn an arcane code just to take advantage of the HF bands. I have a good technical background, I will now persure the upper license priviliges, which I would have done even if I did have to learn code, now I have a much easier time doing it (in my case). Amateur radio covers a huge spectrum of communication modes. Currently, I only have a 2 meter rig, it appears to be pretty quiet in my neck of the woods. I'd love to have other technical friends of mine get into the hobby such that I can play around with it.

    I think the most important rule in amateur radio is to not be an asshole or a prick and intentionally interfere with others, and to play nice with other operators.

    Also in light of our (the US) government's meddling with our civil liberties, I believe that the number of proficient ham radio operators should increase. I believe that if the government starts to really crack down on free speach, amateur radio can provide a morally correct outlet of free speech and communications to concerned citizens. I understand the ease of locating active transmitters, but I also believe that a group of technically proficient operators could really make secure communication possible in times of national crisis. I know that amateur radio is, in our currently fuctioning society, supposed to be in plaintext (or speech) and that encryption is not allowed (generally, I do believe their are some special exemptions), but in times of crisis, sometimes the rules have to get thrown out the window. I'm not advocating any amateur operator engage in rule breaking, but I merely mention it because I feel it is a real possibility that "underground" secure communication might one day be a necessity. Owning the infrastruture is vital to this end. I also believe this is why wifi can play an important role, as it provides networking and communication independant of infrastructure.

  63. Re:Shouldn't FCC drop ham radio completely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound like you have no idea what is going on mister. There is a lot of experimentation going on in ham radio, mostly at the UHF and above bands, so before you make any comments, please get your facts straight. if you are just listening to the HF bands, you are missing the story.

    As for doing away with the ham bands - you're wish probably will come true in the next 30 or 40 years. Money always trumps everything else in this I-want-it-now-at-any-cost environment we live in now, so the lobbyists will funnel their millions upon millions of dollars to the lifer do-nothing politicians, come up with a unified theme to BS the public, and take away the ham bands too. So, be careful what you wish for as you may get it.

    Also, I'd like to know how someone can "experiment" doing moonbounce, digital packet communications, or auroral contacts over the internet. You have a lot to learn about amateur radio.

  64. Re:Shouldn't FCC drop ham radio completely ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    emergency services managed by real professionals

    Yo, craphead, where the hell have you been living?

    In the first place, who'll pay for these "professionals"? The government certainly won't. They'll outsource it to some bullshit corporation (probably in India or South Korea) who will do it on the cheap. If they're in the affected area, they'll never be available when needed. Look at the fucking Katrina disaster -- the "professionals" ran around like a monkey fucking a football, leaving the heavy lifting to the amateurs who drill constantly (unpaid, on their own time) for this kind of stuff.

    Remember the word amateur means one who loves the work, not some dipshit of a corporate drone who can't see beyond his next paycheck and will bail out to take care of his own interests when the crunch comes. Like the bastard New Orleans "professional" cops who bailed at the height of the disaster.

    By the way, the corporations will demand to be "incentivized" with free or lowball-priced spectrum for their own use, thereby making a gift of public funds to those who need it least in our society.

    Fuck you very much.

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  66. Mixed feelings by sambion · · Score: 1

    I've been a technician class since '95. I've also been studying Morse code since '95 as well in an attempt to upgrade. Unfortunately I can't seem to master it. I think it has something to do with the way I process and relate sounds. (Maybe that's why I got a D+ in music appreciation, my lowest grade in college.) If I could have rigged the Morse output to a light for the tests, I think I would have done much better, alas, try talking a V.E. (Volunteer Examiner) into that one. As far as the comments go by the people who say: it's easy, I did it with a minimal amount of effort so you should be able to. Well, everyone should be required to take calculus before graduating from college, it makes you much more of a critical thinker, oh, and don't worry, its easy I did it so can you. What is simple for one may be nearly impossible for another.

      I am currently studying physics and am considered by most of my friends to be a total geek, yet I chose to build a simple BJT circuit to control an LED rather than a HF radio for my electronics class because I would most likely never be able to use the radio in the near future. Now I'm kicking myself all over my living room. Oh, well, that will be next summers project for when school gets out again.

      As far as the mixed feelings go, I'm pumped about not having to learn something I've spent the last 11 years studying, I'm also disappointed. I will probably still learn it once I can start listening to real conversations or rig the output to a light in my spare time. At least I can now continue my geekiness on upper bands. I have been held back by a requirement that really serves no purpose to an electronic geek. I will now spread the happy/sad word to many of my cohorts up at the college next semester and maybe we will see more licenses coming back on the air and more experimenting. For those of you who are wigging out about the experimentation, don't forget, that's what Amateur radio is all about, tinkering around and innovating on ideas, and you can't innovate without experimenting first.

    Maybe I'll have someone to talk to on the VHF bands once the word has spread. Right now the VHF in my area is dead. I haven't had a contact in almost a year. My area is losing Ham operators because all the old coders are dying off, and no new licensees is replacing them.

    Anyhow, I've rambled enough. I'm off to look for the manual for the General Class license.