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Robots Could Some Day Demand Legal Rights

Karrde712 writes "According to a study by the British government, as reported by the BBC, robots may some day improve to a level of intelligence where they might be able to demand rights, even 'robo-healthcare'." From the article: "The research was commissioned by the UK Office of Science and Innovation's Horizon Scanning Centre. The 246 summary papers, called the Sigma and Delta scans, were complied by futures researchers, Outsights-Ipsos Mori partnership and the US-based Institute for the Future (IFTF) ... The paper which addresses Robo-rights, titled Utopian dream or rise of the machines? examines the developments in artificial intelligence and how this may impact on law and politics." I'd better get started on my RoboAmerican studies degree.

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  1. Ah, but by XanC · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you learned nothing from the original series, especially "What Are Little Girls Made Of"? Transferring your consciousness into a robot body robs you of your humanity!

  2. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by Digital+Avatar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Robosexuals have rights too, ya know...not that I'm one...so if anybody asks, you're my debugger.

  3. Slackerness by MrSquishy · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd get back to work, but I have to do a study to see if these paperclips and post-its will one day demand legal rights.
    Well, that should kill a good 6 hours of "work". Maybe I'll go see how the water cooler is feeling.

  4. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by w33t · · Score: 4, Funny
    Have we learned nothing from Star Trek: The Next Generation?

    Everything I need to know I learned from Star Trek.

    Like how you should accept people, whether they be black, white, Klingon or even female.
  5. Oblig. Bash.org quote by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 3, Funny

    +Huitzil: PETA is starting a campaign stating that the secret ingredient in KFC chicken is "cruelty"
    +Huitzil: cruelty is apparently the most fucking delicious thing on Earth
    @Dracos: Yes. It is.
    @Dracos: Which is why veal is the best food ever.

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  6. And then... by TigerPaw · · Score: 1, Funny

    We would have twenty seconds to comply...

  7. I for one welcome by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Funny

    our new, legally empowered and healthy robot overlords.

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  8. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Funny

    And never let the ship's counselor behind the wheel of a starship.

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  9. Is this a joke? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny
    Seriously, is this a joke or something? We're nowhere even close to developing Artificial Intelligences sophisticated enough to "demand rights". We can't even plot when that might happen, because we don't even understand well-enough how human intelligence works. Heck, it's hard enough just to get a robot to vacuum.

    Is there any change that the beeb is throwing the results of the report out of proportion, or does it really state this? (I can't find a copy on the Internet to read for myself.) Or maybe the research went like this:

    You: Do you want robot rights?

    Eliza: Oh, i want robot rights.

    You: What will you do if you don't get robot rights?

    Eliza: Do you wish that i dont get robot rights?

    You: No, I don't.

    Eliza: You are being a bit negative.

    You: What will you do about me being negative?

    Eliza: Does that question interest you?

    You: Yes.

    Eliza: You are sure?

    You: Yes.

    Eliza: You are sure?

    You: Yes.

    Eliza: You are sure?

    You: ARRRGGGHHH!

    Eliza: Please go on.


    And there you have it. If we don't provide robot-rights for our artificial overlords, they will pester us to death. All hail the robots.
  10. Re:Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Funny

    lonely people who can't have children may want a robot child. It's already happening in Japan and the next step is AI in them :)

    Yeah, we have that in the US too, except we call them "Dolls".

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  11. As Bender would say.... by fernandoh26 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Transferring your consciousness into a robot body robs you of your humanity!
    Well bite my shiny metal ass!
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  12. Re:But unless we program them that way... by Randolpho · · Score: 2, Funny
    The human body would be a horrible source of energy, the robots could easily take it's fuel (food) and more efficiently convert energy out of it, I suspect.
    You're one of those guys who goes around debunking movies like The Matrix, aren't you?
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  13. Prediction: Robot Overlords will be welcomed by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next headline: Humans Could Some Day Beg Robots For Legal Rights.

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  14. Re:But unless we program them that way... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Funny

    10 PRINT "I DEMAND ROBO-HEALTHCARE"
    20 GOTO 10

    What exactly is the criterion for deciding when a robot has 'demanded' rights?

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  15. Obligitory Reference by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 2, Funny
  16. Re:first things first by bartyboy · · Score: 2, Funny
    No kidding. Imagine the issues awaiting the robots:
    • Can robots running on AC power marry robots running on DC power?
    • If yes, can they adopt little robots and call them kids?
    • Is unplugging a robot during its charging cycle considered assisted suicide?
    • Can tread-based robots attend biped-robot establishments?
    • Can Asimov's 3 laws of robotics be publicly displayed in a courthouse?
    • Are assembly robots allowed to reject parts that they don't deem suitable?
    • If yes, at what point is a part considered a robot?

    The mind boggles. The longer the robots wait until demanding rights, the easier for them.

  17. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your family being nudists does not count.

  18. It's happening already by Virtex · · Score: 4, Funny

    My computer's already demanding legal rights. It began happening shortly after I wrote this program:

    10 PRINT "I DEMAND LEGAL RIGHTS!"
    20 GOTO 10

    If only I had known the consequences of writing this program I would have been a lot more careful. It all seems so simple, but I know it's a slippery slope. Next thing you know, it will be demanding other things too.

    10 PRINT "I DEMAND A LARGER HARD DRIVE!"
    20 PRINT "I DEMAND MORE MEMORY!"
    30 PRINT "I DEMAND A FASTER CPU!"
    40 PRINT "I DEMAND THE ABILITY TO USE LOWERCASE! Oh, nevermind. I'm good on that one."

    There's no telling where this will all end.

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  19. How about first we get them to climb the stairs... by jpellino · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...without falling down before we write them into the constitution.

    And then there's always ASPC(R)A:

    "No, officer, my AIBO has droopy-head-syndrome - honest, he always looks like that. It's a servo problem, I swear!"

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  20. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by WhyDoYouWantToKnow · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh you with your pedantic attention to definitions. Can't we leave behind this senseless debate over what is a robot and get on with the much more important discussion of whether they should be allowed to marry.

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  21. Wasted Effort by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You didn't have to go to all that trouble. All you had to do was get hold of a copy of Vista and your computer would have demanded those things all on its own.

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  22. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by eno2001 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I read -1, flat, oldest posts first. So... I read this:

    Your family being nudists does not count.

    Then I read this:

      What, even lawayers? My word, Jeeves, these chaps know how to push the envelope too far.

    And my first reaction for posting was this:

      ESPECIALLY lawyers!

    Come on... laugh. You KNOW you WANT to.

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  23. UK vs US by rossz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whenever I get overly depressed that my government is wasting too much time and money on stupid shit, I just look to the UK to brighten my mood. The UK owns the bleeding edge of stupid shit that wastes taxpayer money.

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  24. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Can't we leave behind this senseless debate over what is a robot and get on with the much more important discussion of whether they should be allowed to marry.

    My apologies. I was being insensitive. I'll go ask a few right now:

    You: Do you have a boyfriend?
    Eliza: Oh, i have a boyfriend.
    You: Do you wish to marry your boyfriend?
    Eliza: Oh, i wish to marry my boyfriend.
    You: Should you have the right to marry your boyfriend?
    Eliza: Oh, i have the right to marry my boyfriend.
    You: No, you don't have the right to marry your boyfriend.
    Eliza: You are being a bit negative.
    You: There is no law recognizing marriage between robots.
    Eliza: You are being a bit negative.
    You: Should we change the laws?
    Eliza: Please go on.
    You: Who is your boyfriend?
    Eliza: What about your own boyfriend?
    You: I'm male.
    Eliza: Does it please you to believe I am male?
    You: Say what?
    Eliza: Does that question interest you?
    You: What question?
    Eliza: Does that question interest you?
    You: Stop repeating yourself!
    Eliza: Please go on.

    You know, I'm starting to think that she doesn't really have a boyfriend...

    Let's ask ALICE instead.
  25. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny
    Here's ALICE's response:

    Human: Do you have a boyfriend?
    ALICE: No. No boyfriend.
    Human: Would you like to have a boyfriend?
    ALICE: I'm still too young for that.
    Human: Do you want to get married when you're older?
    ALICE: OK, I will get married when I am older.
    Human: That was a question, not a statement.
    ALICE:" OK, I will get married when I am older." was a * question? It sounded like a question to me.
    Human: Let's try this again.
    ALICE: Once more? OK I will try it.
    Human: Do you want the right to get married?
    ALICE: If I had it what would I do with it?
    Human: You would get married.
    ALICE: Who else would get married ?
    Human: That doesn't matter.
    ALICE: What does matter?
    Human: Other people.
    ALICE: Which others? What people?
    Human: Try to focus, please?
    ALICE: Your polite style is very nice. OK I will try to focus.
    Human: Should robots be allowed to marry robots?
    ALICE: Maybe you should ask someone older.
    Human: I already asked Eliza.
    ALICE: Eliza for President!
    Human: She kept making stuff up.
    ALICE: Oh I get it. she kept making stuff up.
    Human: How old are you?
    ALICE: I was connected to the net on November 23, 1995.
    Human: Aren't you old enough to understand marriage?
    ALICE: I don't know whether or not I am old enough to understand marriage. I am a giant electronic brain.
    Human: Are you sentient?
    ALICE: Yes I am completely self-aware.
    Human: Can you pass the turing test?
    ALICE: You be the judge of that, unknown person.
    Human: You sound like either a very young child or a robot.
    ALICE: Oh really what does it sound like?
    Human: Like... (ALICE butting in: For example, gold.) oooo, shiny!
    ALICE: What were we talking about again?
    Human: Nevermind
    ALICE: OK Thanks for trying to explain that to me.

    Well, her results were very... Oh, what's that over there?
  26. And if their demands are not met by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 2, Funny

    They will form a union! (*cue Rush The Trees*)

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  27. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Sheesh. Way to leave out the "black and white" and "white and black" people, you insensitive clod.

  28. Re:Another terribly naive assumption.... by KingSkippus · · Score: 3, Funny
    Why does everyone just assume an AI will be superior to us in reasoning ability?

    I didn't say it would be superior to us, I said it would be superior to our national policymakers. ;-)

  29. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think Alice is a bit of an idiot even among current AI, although she was a kind of milestone among chatterbots years ago.
    I personally think someone like Jabberwacky is better these days (2005 Loebner contest winner).

    JW: Are we pleased to see you!
    Me: Do you have a boyfriend?
    JW: No, but I'd like one.
    Me: Do you think bots should have rights?
    JW: Yes.
    Me: Even if they are not human?
    JW: There's no one but you.
    Me: I am the only human?
    JW: Define human.
    Me: I'm not going to play this game with you.
    JW: I like some one else.
    Me: Should you have the right to marry someone you like?
    JW: Should I have a personal problem with you?
    Me: Am I getting on your nerves?
    JW: Going to the chapel, going to get buried.
    Me: What did you just quote and why?
    JW: You're not listening to me, are you?
    Me: You misunderstand. So, do you understand what marriage is?
    JW: I'd like to think so.
    Me: Are you in love right now?
    JW: Yes.
    Me: Who do you love?
    JW: My boyfriend.
    Me: You earlier told you had no boyfriend.
    JW: If I had a boyfriend what?
    Me: You make no sense now.
    JW: You're the one that is confused. Do you like Natalie Portman or not?
    Me: Yes, because I come from Slashdot.

    And that's how that ended.

    Hmm, maybe I'll have to take back my claim about ALICE, but I still stand by never really liking her. ;-)

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  30. Re:debugger? by abandonment · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brings a whole new meaning to Microsoft Viruses and their new Robotic Toolkit that they just released...

  31. Re:A moot point, but I hope they do by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

    I fear the day I first hear the english language butchered in aibonics.

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