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Birth of an Island

slashmojo writes that while some islands are sinking, last August another rose from the ocean, formed by volcanic activity and caught in the act by a passing yacht. From the article: "What looked like a brown stain on the South Pacific turned out to be a spectacular drift of floating pumice stones stretching more than 16 km — and an indication an island was being born nearby... 'We are getting emails from volcanologists saying this is so rare.'" Here is the blog post of the yachtsman who photographed the nascent island.

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  1. Praise Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    God giveth and God taketh away....
    all balances out in the end we are just a small part of His PLAN

    1. Re:Praise Jesus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Time for the no sarcastic jackasses in 2007 magic!
      Abracadabra!
      Crap, that guy's still here.

    2. Re:Praise Jesus! by Inverted+Intellect · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Call it what you will, but I'm not one to consider a proclamation of belief in a personal god to be 'Insightful'.

      For those unaqainted with the subject of newly-formed islands, the only previous recorded example was Surtsey, just off the south coast of Iceland, which appeared in a volcanic event in 1965 or so.

      Surtsey has been a neat case-study in the colonization of land-life in an area previously devoid of it, but has unfortunately (yet wisely) been off-limits to non-scientists.

    3. Re:Praise Jesus! by jbrader · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Compare August 12 with the age of the Earth. It's a new island.

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    4. Re:Praise Jesus! by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is also Krakatoa, but it behaves more like a recursive island.

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  2. Natural floater? by CRC'99 · · Score: 4, Funny
    What looked like a brown stain on the South Pacific turned out to be a spectacular drift of floating pumice stones stretching more than 16 km


    So when the earth gets a floater in the pool, it's one big mutha. Try fishing that out with a net ;)
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  3. So... we lose one, we win one. by markana · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds fair.

    First one to the new island gets the prime beachfront property! :-)

    1. Re:So... we lose one, we win one. by Sparr0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      First one to the new island gets shitty landlocked property. LAST one gets beachfront :)

    2. Re:So... we lose one, we win one. by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      First one to the island gets mildly radioactive beachfront property that will either blow up in another eruption or get washed away by big waves. Save it for the great-great-grandkids.

  4. This is so awesome by PurifyYourMind · · Score: 3, Informative

    You usually think of these structures as having been around for at least as long as civilization, but clearly the Earth is ever-changing... very cool.

    Here's a decent intro to island formation:
    http://www.hawaii.edu/environment/ainakumuwai/html /ainakumuwaiislandformation.htm

  5. Supercool by presidentbeef · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope scientists can get some cool information out of his. And perhaps footage of the island forming...maybe some time-lapse photography or something. That would be neat-o.

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  6. Re:Grr by presidentbeef · · Score: 3, Funny

    "So" is not a synonym of "very".

    I think you meant: "So" is so not a synonym of "very".

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  7. I spy with my rich eye. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "slashmojo writes that while some islands are sinking, last August another rose from the ocean [CC] [MD] [GC], formed by volcanic activity and caught in the act by a passing yacht."

    See. I told you rich people are good for something. :)

  8. Really neat, but... by khendron · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is really neat, but doesn't it strike anybody as odd that they decided to sail
    *towards* an active volcano? Were they trying to get a last minute entry into the 2006 Darwin Awards or something?

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    1. Re:Really neat, but... by niktemadur · · Score: 3, Insightful
      From the blog:
      After cleaning the water filter the Yanmar diesel started again. Thank God! Without wind we would have been stuck in a sea of stone if the motor had failed. Next thing to check was the other water inlets. Some minor pumice particles but nothing serious. But the bottom paint were scrubbed away at places along the waterline, Maiken has an ablative paint so it was just doing what is supposed to do. Like we'd sailed through sandpaper.

      So you're right of course, and in case of doubt, one should err on the side of caution. But in a situation like this, the opportunity to witness a spectacular one in a million event, then to see a gigantic patch of pumice floating by...whew... that's gotta be a flood of adrenaline. Most sailors don't even dream of witnessing something like this, it's so far out there. Hell man, you just gotta inspect that thing up-close, you take as many precautions as possible, but some safety will get thrown to the winds. Chalk another one up for curiosity.
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    2. Re:Really neat, but... by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Most sailors don't even dream of witnessing something like this, it's so far out there. Hell man, you just gotta inspect that thing up-close, you take as many precautions as possible, but some safety will get thrown to the winds. Chalk another one up for curiosity.

      A true sailor would rail against nature like a madman, with wild eyes and a raised fist silhouetted against the sky dramatically. Probably something along the lines of :

      "Damn you, nature! That patch of ocean was mine to sail, MINE I say! And now you've taken that from me! Damn you to HELL! But I'll have my revenge yet! Global warming will bury this island before the century is out - mark my words! The game is not yet over, Nature, not by a long shot!"

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  9. I'm convinced... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Between recent plans to map under Greenland's ice to find the home of the Elder Things and Shoggoths, and now this, I think it's obvious H.P. Lovecraft's prophecy is coming true.

    All glory to Cthulhu.

    1. Re:I'm convinced... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's the city of R'lyeh arising from the slumbering depths!

      Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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  10. Someone lands on it, plants a flag and yells... by aapold · · Score: 4, Funny

    First post!

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  11. Mother nature is ticked at being... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...caught in the act by a passing yacht.

    Nosy environmnetalists and their cameras. Worst than the paparazzi on a Saturday night.

  12. So isolated, but so populated by maggard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its fascinating that something like this, in the age of of satellite monitoring, global communications, Google Earth, can happen without vulcanologists aware of it. Its possible that military organizations detected it & then dismissed it as outside their purview & didn't pass it on, in any case it's unfortunate that such a rare event escaped study. Hopefully we'll soon see automated earth science 'anomaly' expert systems processing realtime data and alerting relevant specialists.

    On the other hand, it's impressive that there were people there! That the human species is so ubiquitous on planet Earth that a random bunch of folks happened to be sailing in proximity, in what was historically one of the most isolate places on the planet. It really does bring home that there are now more folks alive today then have died in the history of our species, that we're now regularly witnessing these one-in-a-million (but what is that to six billion?!) events!

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    1. Re:So isolated, but so populated by I'll+Provide+The+War · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:So isolated, but so populated by SmashedSqwurl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, as soon as I saw this article, I went on Google Earth and looked for it. It's there!

      Here are the coordinates: 18 59 25.13 S, 174 45 46.40 W

      Naturally, I immediately made a placemark.

    3. Re:So isolated, but so populated by ImpShial · · Score: 2, Informative
      It is amazing that someone would be around to witness this. With the population explosion we've seen in the last 20 years, it makes you wonder how crowded our solar system is going to be in 200 years.

      But... (a bit off-topic)

      maggard wrote:

      It really does bring home that there are now more folks alive today then have died in the history of our species This is actually an urban legend. Demographers put the estimate at roughly 80 billion dead throughout history. Modest estimates put the total number of people alive today at approximately 6% of the total of all people who have ever lived.

      Links:
      http://www.economist.com/diversions/millennium/dis playStory.cfm?Story_ID=346605
      http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/dead.htm
      http://www.rateitall.com/i-885386-the-number-of-pe ople-alive-today-is-greater-than-the-number-of-peo ple-who-have-ever-died.aspx
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  13. Who owns it? by TheBismarck · · Score: 5, Funny

    I call dibs.

  14. Re:Claim by MPHellwig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite simply, you claim it's yours and it's yours unless somebody else with a bigger gun says so.

  15. Birth of an Island, Rise of a Nation... by mikeisme77 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if I saw an island being formed, I would anchor my yacht offshore, wait for the land to cool, then plant a flag claiming it in the name of my new sovereign nation... Even if it's just a small island, it would still be cool to be the ruler of an island nation...
    A man can dream...

    1. Re:Birth of an Island, Rise of a Nation... by Teancum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please look at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Making_an_Island for some further information and sources.

      In the early 1970's, there was a Las Vegas developer who ended up going to an atoll that was technically in unclaimed international waters and "built" an island by dumping extra material on this group of submerged rocks to the point that there was a portion that stayed above water during high tides, technically new territory just as you have suggested.

      BTW, this was also near the Tongan islands, so this is also relevant in this situation.

      What happened afterward was that a group of Tongan soldiers "invaded" the newly formed island and asserted sovereignty by "occupying" the island in the name of Tonga. Instead of formenting an international incident, the developer relented and gave up his attempt to build his own South Pacific version of Monaco.

      I'm not sure what would have happened if this developer had his own "army" that would have defended the island, but it certainly seems like Tonga would consider it justifications for going to war if it happened near one of their islands. I'm curious what the Tongan government may have to say about this new island in their general domain.

    2. Re:Birth of an Island, Rise of a Nation... by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Well by all accounts the Tongan soldiers where very minimally if at all armed. Clearly if you are trying to set up a new sovregn nation state an army to defend your nation is critical. There are plenty of individuals in the world with sufficient wealth to pull this off.

  16. Re:Claim by BrianH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Depends on where its at. This particular island lies within the already recognized territorial waters of Tonga, so it belongs to them. Since most new islands would form in volcanic chains with pre-existing atolls and islands, this is likely to be the case the vast majority of the time.

    If you did manage to spot an island forming outside of the territorial waters of another nation, the biggest gun rule generally applies. You can claim it yourself and try to create your own nation, but good luck defending it when someone with bigger guns than you decides to grab it. Until you have a settled population on the island, nobody is going to care that some lone nut got kicked off a speck of rock in the middle of the ocean. He who had the biggest guns wins. Until you actually get a population, nobody is going to recognize you as a nation. As a example, the Republic of Minerva was set up in the 1970's on infill located on an unclaimed atoll...basically, a bunch of dirt was piled on an atoll to create an artificial island. Nobody paid much attention to the island or the builders claims, and eventually Tonga sent their army over, evicted the guy, and claimed the island for themselves. Since there was no actual population living on the island, little attention was paid to the "invasion". The people involved in building the island still whine about their claim and call themselves the "government in exile", but without a population to represent or an army to defend themselves, they're little more than a paper organization. The island, as I understand it, was allowed to erode back into the sea. Only a few narrow spits of land ringing the reefs remain.

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  17. Leave it pristine by banditski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks we should agree to leave this new island pristine and uninhabited and study it as nature takes hold? I think it would be fascinating to watch as plants then birds then whatever else begin to colonize the island. Perhaps in a few hundred to a few thousand years we'd see some natural selection a la Darwin's finches on the Galapagos Islands.

  18. Satellite pictures by cosmol · · Score: 2, Informative

    What a great story for the new year, but it should be said that this island formed this past august.

    Someone posted these links to satellite pics on the blog page.

    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA01899

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/sh ownh.php3?img_id=13971

  19. I was actually out there... by mclearn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No kidding. I was sailing from New Zealand to Vanuatu when this happened. Our ham radio was awash in traffic as this thing surfaced. The problem with pumice is that it floats on the water and reduces the surface tension. When your boat goes through it, you get all your expensive ablative paint scraped off...and then you sink a few feet into the water. If you don't have enough freeboard (the amount of boat height from waterline to decking), then you *will* sink. The other thing is that you can't actually use your motor very well, so you have try to sail out...this is obviously a problem during nighttime when you can't see anything and you end up running right into it. That'll wake you up.