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How to get a Refund on Your Unwanted Windows

lisah writes "Serge Wroclawski recently contacted Dell to request a refund on the unwanted copy of Windows XP that came pre-installed on his computer. Somewhat surprisingly, Dell complied. Wroclawski admits that the $52.50 refund was more of a victory in principal than anything else, but it was a success nonetheless. Using his tips and techniques readers can try their hand at getting a refund of their own. Wroclawski cautions that you should be prepared for a long haul: the process could take hours." Linux.com and Slashdot are both owned by OSTG.

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  1. Save some time and money by $lingBlade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it Microsoft or Dell themselves that *require* you to purchase one of their PC's with an O/S? If it's up to Dell at all, my suggestion to them would be to just have that as an option when ordering via phone or internet. Subtract whatever minimal amount they want and thereby save us and them some grief and some money in the process.

    1. Re:Save some time and money by cyberfunkr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The fact that everyone seems to forget/ignore is that the cost of installing Windows is not a big factor when pricing out a system.

      Dell DOES offer machines without Windows. However they end up costing MORE than the version with Windows. Why is this? Because along with installing Windows XP (or Vista soon) they install a lot of crapware. RealPlayer, MusicMatch, AOL, and a host of others are being installed in that system that's built "Just for you".

      And each one of those companies pay Dell every time they are included on your system. Just like you'll see computers that are $299, after mail-in rebate. That mail-in rebate is you have to sign-up for 2-years of CompuServe and they'll help pay for your computer. You can buy a computer without Windows and without all this extra crap but you're going to pay more for it because these other companies are giving a kickback.

      There is a program out there called "The PC Decrapifier". Here is a list of all the "extras" that help lower the cost of your Dell system.

      • QuickBooks Trial
      • NetZero Installers
      • Earthlink Setup Files
      • Corel Photo Album 6
      • Tiscali Internet
      • Wanadoo Europe Installer
      • Get High Speed Internet!
      • Internet Service Offers Launcher
      • Dell Search Assistant
      • Norton Ghost 10.0
      • Symantec Live Update
      • MS Plus Photo Story 2LE
      • MS Plus Digital Media Installer
      • McAffee
      • Norton Internet Security
      • Google Desktop
      • Google Toolbar
      • AOL US
      • AOL UK
      • MusicMatch Jukebox
      • MusicMatch Music Services
      • Wild Tangent Games
      • Norton AntiVirus 2005
      • Norton Security Center
      • Norton AntiSpam
      • PC-cillin Internet Security 12
      • Corel Snapfire Plus SE
      • Yahoo! Music Jukebox
      • Vongo
      • Desktop Icons
      • Startup Menu Items
      • Corel WordPerfect
      • Roxio RecordNow
      • Sonic DLA
      • Sonic Update Manager
      • Sonic RecordNow Audio
      • Sonic RecordNow Copy
      • Roxio MyDVD LE
      • Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003
      • Quicken 2006

      So what does this all mean? To save money, buy the PC *with* Windows, then follow this guys advice to return the OS. Then send a thank you to Corel, Sonic, Roxio, Real, Google, McAfee, Symantec, and AOL for helping you buy the Linux system you really wanted in the first place.

  2. Outsource the job? by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I hire someone in China to go through the refund process for me for a fraction of the refund amount?

    1. Re:Outsource the job? by wfberg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can I hire someone in China to go through the refund process for me for a fraction of the refund amount?

      No, but our operators in Nigeria are standing by..

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  3. Re:Spend hours to get $52.50 by FunkyELF · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its spelled 'cents', and yes...I agree 5,250 is a lot of cents.

  4. Makes One Wonder... by EXTomar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why Microsoft can't sell a copy of Windows XP to anyone for $52. I'm not sure why "volume discount" or OEM relationships are exactly a satisfactory answer either.

    1. Re:Makes One Wonder... by Infinityis · · Score: 5, Funny

      They can't sell copies of Windows XP for the same cost because of the physical media involved...I reckon it takes an extra ten cents to print a nifty genuine hologram, and $36.40 goes to the RIAA because someone might figure out how to use the CD to pirate music.

  5. What did this cost dell? by grahamsz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They had to pay some support person to talk to him for those two hours, and their supervisor, and he tied up phone lines and computers on their end. The paid return postage. Then they probably needed someone in a different department to actually issue the $52.50 and then they had to pay credit card fees to return the money to his card. If they actually went ahead and returned the license to microsoft then that's yet more cost.

    Companies may have very low operating expenses when everything goes to plan, but i would be surprised if it cost dell a decent multiple of 52.50 to actually process the issue.

    If they start to notice it happening more often then the obvious thing to do is to build it in to the process and let people order machines without windows.

    Getting the largest computer manufacturer to conceed that Windows isn't the only way would be a big win for everyone.

  6. Re:Spend hours to get $52.50 by Heem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    evidently you've missed the point though.

    it's about principle. if enough of us demand the 52 bucks, thats a good deal of money for Dell and Microsoft to eat. This will lead the future offering of machines without an OS preloaded.

    If you wonder why things in the world are taking a down turn, it's because very few people are willing to do things just on principle. As one person, yea, 52 bucks is less than a drop in the bucket (Especially from the corporation's side of it) But if we work together, we can begin to change things towards our liking.

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  7. Re:$52? by kyouteki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the Windows XP Home EULA:

    You agree to be bound by the terms of this EULA by installing, copying, or otherwise using the software. If you do not agree, do not install, copy, or use the software; you may return it to your place of purchase for a full refund

    If he did not, in fact, agree to be bound by the terms of the EULA, he had every right to ask for a refund.

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