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What Tax Software Do You Use?

r_jensen11 asks: "I know this topic has been asked at least once before, but seeing as how 6 years have passed, I figured the question is due again. It's about that time of the year again when we find out how much we owe Uncle Sam (or as in my case, how much Uncle Sam owes me). Software has changed drastically in the past 6 years, since the previous query I found on Slashdot, as well as many tax rules. Does anyone here use tax software other than TurboTax and TaxCut? I know that there are also online forms I can fill out, but which ones are accessible to people that use OSes other than Windows and Mac OS X? I'd preferably use a program that I can use off-line and store my information locally instead of using eforms, but if I have to resort to eforms, which ones should I investigate and which ones should I stay far away from?"

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  1. i'm old school by east+coast · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's still pen and paper for me, just like d&d.

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  2. H & R Block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have an accountant do your taxes. They're cross platform, less error prone, and in many cases charge about the same price as popular tax prep software costs.

    1. Re:H & R Block by alshithead · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Have an accountant do your taxes. They're cross platform, less error prone, and in many cases charge about the same price as popular tax prep software costs."

      As complicated as the US tax code is, this is the BEST advice for anyone above the poverty level. It is also why our tax code will not be reformed. There are way too many accountants out there who make too much money on handling taxes, and they support the candidates who will keep the status quo. Tax reform is very much needed in the US. I lean towards a flat tax or national sales tax.

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    2. Re:H & R Block by woolio · · Score: 2, Funny

      My only mistake was in filing married, jointly.

      Hmm.... One can only wonder:

      1) Was the mistake in filing as *married* when one is not?
      2) Was the mistake filing *separate* returns with both marked as "married, filing jointly"
      3) Was the mistake getting *married* in the first place?
      4) Was the mistake in filling out the returns *jointly* (or not?) with (or without) one's spouse?

      lol......

    3. Re:H & R Block by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Note!!! H&R block people are NOT accountants!! Sure they have accountants for dealing with buisnesses. But the people who the average joe tax return at H&R block are not accountants and are just trained to fill out the same form you would if you went to their online website...

      In Florida the CPA association filed a advertising complaint against H&R block because several of their commercials implied their people were better than accountants "We'll catch the refunds that your accountant missed" and crap.

    4. Re:H & R Block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a former employee there, I can say Block does not compete on price. They compete by being able to front refunds so people can walk out with parts of their refund.

      The skill level of Block is a little erratic, but then there are scores of "1 W2" returns that are simply too cut and dried to make any serious money for the top Accountants. Block usually does a passable job on these.

      I believe the tax code is not deliberately complex to suit the accountants; some of us get grumpy at being dragged into obscure situations that won't result in any great prep-revenue, but only serve to give a harried preparer room to get nervous. The good preparers put it on hold to dig/ask, despite pressure to get rid of returns.

      The tax code is a combination of "Think of The Injustice to (foo) Group" and ugly language designed to stop sneaky schemes of IQ-180 tax sharks. The rules used by "normal" people fit into under 500 pages, as demonstrated by the retail tax guides at the big bookstores. If you own your own business, or rental properly, or play fast and loose on Wall Street, you have no right to complain about complexity.

    5. Re:H & R Block by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have an even better method. We do a 1040. We had H&R Block do our taxes once. Now I use Turbo Tax online. The nice thing about Turbo Tax is that you can do your taxes without paying until you actually file. I try to duplicate the result myself using the forms, following what H & R did. If I come up with the same number, I just use my form (it's happened the last two years now), and don't pay Turbo Tax to file. It's a great way to verify your results. If in the event Turbo Tax comes up with a better refund, I will use them.

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    6. Re:H & R Block by tchdab1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Having an accountant do my taxes is great for getting my taxes done this year I agree. But it doesn't teach me enough about the process to help me make decisions throughout the following year.
      Doing it myself keeps me informed of what is being taxed and how.
      Having a program helps reduce the time it takes to enter the data and make the calculations and find help and forms when I need them. I can get into it as much as I need to (which you might say is true for an accountant too), I have all the records and processes when I need to consult them later to see what the tax implications are of doing or not doing something, etc.
      Plus to use an accountant I have to assemble all my documentation myself anyway (all the taxable records) which is a major part of the tax effort - once I got all my papers the rest is not so bad.

      Given that, I use one of the major programs, and I don't believe it matters much which you use.

  3. why not just use the forms? by Gothmolly · · Score: 3, Informative

    Print the forms, get a calculator, and do the math....whats the problem?

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    1. Re:why not just use the forms? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I sincerely hope you're kidding.

      Print the Forms, Get a Calculator and...

      Figure out the partial reductions on child-benefits that interact with other parts of the code;

      Disover that when you moved from one state to another you end up with Dual Status state returns;

      You decided it would be fun to rent that side building next to your house to a guy needing a room, and now you have to figure out the depreciation.

      Sorry; software is where Taxes are today. TaxAct, being free as in Beer, is a strong force on the scene.

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  4. TurboTax online by cmeans · · Score: 2, Informative

    As I recall it worked equally well with Firefox as IE last year. We've used it every year for the past 4 years or more. I'm not sure what a standalone program might do for us over the online offering. My returns are simple, but my wife has to deal with Schedule C, and investment stuff, it's served us well, as far as I can tell.

    1. Re:TurboTax online by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      TurboTax online

      I think it's the same service (provided by Intuit), but other students or such like myself who have an AGI of $27,000 or less can go to taxfreedom.com and do their federal taxes online for free. The program this year is actually quite good from both a technical and interface point of view.

      For state income, some states let you do free filing online via their own websites (like UT), but AL, AR, AZ, GA, ID, IA, KY, MA, MI, MN, MO, MS, MT, NY, ND, NC, OK, OR, RI, VT, and WV are all members of the Free File Alliance, and you can usually file taxes in these states for free online.

      I'm a poor student, so my only goal is to get my refund back as fast as possible. Granted, my return is simple, but it took only 6 days last year from submission to direct deposit. In any case, I've found that there's no reason not to file online, especially if it's free.

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  5. taxact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    taxact.com

    already done and efiled - no charge if you go directly to their site. DO NOT visit the IRS site first or you will pick up a cookie which will make them try to charge you for efiling if your AGI is above $52k regardless of how you actually enter the taxact site later.

    1. Re:taxact by rgbscan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Same here. taxact all the way. I use the d/l'd version though. I just feel better about having my tax info stored locally.

    2. Re:TaxAct by mspohr · · Score: 2, Informative

      My TaxCut box for 2006 taxes sitting here on my desk says it works on the Mac and my friend installed it on his Mac so I don't think they've ditched the Mac.

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  6. Hire an accountant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A good accountant will do your taxes for you.

    A great accountant will have a tax loophole named after him/her.

  7. I hope you don't think by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That Uncle Sam returning that nice interest free loan you have given them by over witholding is "Giving you money back". Biggest fallacy in the book, have the standard tax tables overwithold - then make people think "Gee, the government is giving me money - they are so nice".

    If you are getting a large refund - look into talking to an accountant that can tell you how many deductions you REALLY need to be closer to break even. My goal is to hit somewhere between a 100 dollar refund to paying 500 dollars. I can afford 500 dollars, and I'd just assume be making the interest while the money sits in my bank account before giving it to the Man.

    But PLEASE don't take my advise - talk to an accountant (IANAA) to find out what is correct for you

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  8. "At least once before" by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I know this topic has been asked at least once before, but seeing as how 6 years have passed, I figured the question is due again.
    It has been answered several times in the past couple years:
  9. Excel 1040 by __aapopf3474 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google Excel 1040. It works for me. I blew off Intuit after their activation debacle. That and the fact that Office Despot consistently has lower prices for Intuit's products than Intuit's website. After Intuit, H&R Block's product seemed ok.

  10. FreeFile by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over two thirds of tax payers can file online for free. The IRS runs Free File, which helps you to select a service to file through.

    Most of these were browser and OS agnostic last year & a good choice for those with AGIs low enough.

  11. Always found it strange by TheLink · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That there's a market for tax software in the USA.

    Are there other countries where such software would be worth it?

    In the country I live in the income tax system seems simple enough that anyone who is too stupid to figure it out is unlikely to be making enough money to fall in the taxable bracket.

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    1. Re:Always found it strange by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Informative

      You could live in a country that will supply you with free (not Free) software downloadable from the Tax Office website, which walks you through the whole process, step by step, asking reasonably easy questions with decent, context sensitive online help to boot.

      Then after establishing your bona-fides with them using details from a previous tax cheque/bill that was mailed to you, it all gets submitted online to them, with the option of a direct transfer into a bank account of your choice once it's been processed.

      Beats the hell out of paper or the $70-$100 that tax people charge these days for a basic return.

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  12. Re:product activation - turned me away by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh yea, I definately don't use turbotax software. But the online turbotax is really one of the best out there. Used it for the last few years. Lucky for me my wife got a job at a CPA firm last year, with a nice perk of free taxes... Hmm her boss gets to know EXACTLY how much she is underpaid.. :)

  13. The best tax technology on earth by svunt · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...is a qualified tax accountant, which you can access via an online virtual community called OutDoors, which features amazing high res graphics and panoramic 3d first person perspectives. When you locate the tax accountant, he or she will upload your financial data at a staggering speed with his or her eyes and ears, and using the revolutionary HumanBrain processor, calculate the maximum refund available to you.

    It's quite a rush, get ready to ride the mongoose.

  14. Re:How about... none? by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unconstitutional? There's a Constitutional amendment, the sixteenth, that explicitly authorizes income taxes, ratified in 1913. To quote:



    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.




    Now, as most of our rights are guaranteed by amendments to the Constitution (like the right to keep and bear arms), and as most of the time when laws are struck down it is because the violate the terms of the amendments and not of the original articles (particularly those pesky first ten amendments), I think you're going to have a hard time arguing against the validity of the sixteenth amendment.



    By the way, by definition, amendments have priority over the text of the articles - after all, they are *amendments*. Any discrepancy between an amendment and the articles must be resolved in favor of the amendment.


  15. me too by twitter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's still pen and paper for me

    Sure, but it's easier to get the forms with a browser and KPDF than it is to drive to the library. Also, it's easier to add the stuff up with gnumeric than it is to use a calculator. After that, the check's in the mail.

    Of course, all of it's a stupid curse. Uncle Sam knows exactly what you made and has the resources to present it to you over the web. Taxes should be as easy as going to a web site and choosing between "I agree" and "I have something else to report" then doing it.

    I'm going to continue to use paper as long as Uncle Sam does, mostly because the programs made to do taxes have proved themselves less than trustworthy.

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  16. A bigger falacy. by twitter · · Score: 4, Informative

    That Uncle Sam returning that nice interest free loan you have given them by over witholding is "Giving you money back". Biggest fallacy in the book ...

    The biggest fallacy in the book is that fiat currency has an intrinsic value. Look up Alan Greenspan's little essay on the gold standard, and realize that you are not free without a secure store of value. The withholdings are a time consuming but insignificant part of the bigger scam.

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    1. Re:A bigger falacy. by jb.hl.com · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think his point is, rather, that if your currency is not backed by something of value (e.g gold) and then the value of it floats around, it is far too easy to have that value withheld from you in an instant, as you actually don't own anything except paper banknotes.

      Not an unreasonable point, if that IS what he's getting at.

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    2. Re:A bigger falacy. by poopdeville · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The biggest fallacy in the book is thinking that gold has any intrinsic value outside of its industrial uses. And copper alloys are superior for most applications.

      The price of gold is just as arbitrary as the 'price' of a dollar. Having no intrinsic value means that extrinsic value -- price -- is its only value.

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    3. Re:A bigger falacy. by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Backed vs. fiat currency is all just semantics. In either case, the government controls the supply. If a "backed" currency economy collapsed, do you really think the government would let you trade in your currency for whatever it's backed against? Of course not.

      Things are, and have always been, worth what someone is willing to pay for them, and that includes currency. It is impossible to tie currency to an actual standard, because no single thing has the same worth to every person, including gold. Since gold would be nearly worthless in an economic collapse ("You want some water? I need some food, and that shiny metal doesn't look very nutritional!), it's pretty pointless to use it to back your currency. And since everything is in fluctuation in both supply and demand, there's really nothing suitable.

      Currency represents an idea; a measure of something intangible, presumably work done. If people suddenly decide that a currency worthless (or worth less, or worth more), then it is. If the government floods the market with more currency, then it will result in inflation, fiat or not.

  17. Mod Up, people should know this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is part of a negotiated settlement between the IRS and for-profit tax preparation companies during the Clinton years. It, after all, makes more sense for the IRS to offer free software for the public to encourage everyone to file electronically and standardize everything, etc. More efficent for the IRS, and therefore you. But that would hurt some big companies (I'm sure you can intuit whom I mean). Thus a deal was struck a while back, which as far as I know is not promoted/advertised by the tax-prep software companies.

    The result is that people who make less than a certain amount (Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) of $52,000 or less) are entitled to free software by the "Free File Alliance, LLC" (ie, the tax software industry). During the Bush administration, the # of people who has qualified for this has gone down every year...

    The government believes that private industry, given its established expertise and experience in the field of electronic tax preparation, has a proven track record in providing the best technology and services available. In addition, the government believes a partnership with private industry will: provide taxpayers with higher quality services by using the existing expertise of the private sector; maximize consumer choice; promote competition within the marketplace; and meet objectives in the least costly manner to taxpayers.

    FYI.

  18. Re:The joys of TurboTax by akohler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes. It used to be not compatible.

    Now there is a standard tax file format that a lot of software is implementing.

    Quicken and other packages also import this. TurboTax will ask you if you want to import from Quicken. Just say "yes" and then choose .TXF format when it asks you. Smooth sailing from there.

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  19. My Web Browser by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Title says it all. I have an account, log in once or twice a year, and file my taxes. I can do it wherever I am, on whatever computer is available, as long as it has internet access and a secure web browser. Back when I used software, I found I was always waiting for the software patches to come out, and they always came out AFTER most of the features of the software would have been usable (right near the end of filing time, instead of in January during planning time). Now, it's always up to date, and I can check in whenever I want to see where my registered savings and charitable contributions should be to maximize my return. Plus, such sites are generally free for people below a certain income level (and cheaper than tax software for people over that level).

  20. Re:How about... none? by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, because of course it is an entirely rational argument to claim that differences in punctuation invalidate a ratification (they don't), or that Ohio didn't become a state until 1953.