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Microsoft to Launch Zune in EU

An anonymous reader writes "Happy with the sales from the little brown music player here in the states, Microsoft is working to launch the Zune media player in Europe by the end of the year. According to the Washington Post article, they are trying to have a realistic outlook on the entrenched Apple product line. They're not trying to play catch-up at the moment ... they're just trying to get on the map. From the article: '"Our next round of introductions will probably be in time for the holiday of this year." [Jason Reindorp] said Microsoft planned extensive research with focus groups in Europe to see how it could be modified for a European consumer. He said the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category, according to the latest data, and that it was still in line to sell over a million units by June 30, the end of its current fiscal year.'"

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  1. Soon... by RichPowers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Europeans will be excitedly squirting all over the place!

    1. Re:Soon... by FyRE666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...it was still in line to sell over a million units by June 30...

      I didn't realise there were that many stupid people out there... then I remember the guy that was voted into the Whitehouse *again*...

  2. Focus groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Microsoft planned extensive research with focus groups in Europe to see how it could be modified for a European consumer.

    Preliminary results suggest that European consumers would like it to be "less crappy".
    1. Re:Focus groups by i_should_be_working · · Score: 3, Funny

      Preliminary results suggest that European consumers would like it to be "less crappy".

      Those snooty Europeans, think they're better'n us do they?

    2. Re:Focus groups by rucs_hack · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I suspect it will be in for a very hard sell.
      The main problem is the perception that it wasn't built for the consumer, but for the media producers. This is another one for the bargain bucket if you ask me.

      I'm sure the designers were able to convince themselves that users want Zune style restrictions in their media experience, but history shows that people will gravitate towards the simplest device that meets their needs, and the Zune isn't it.

      The sad thing is there is probably some kickass hardware in the thing, but it's been tasked, as I said, to suit media producers first, which is the wrong way round.

  3. Fo Shizzle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah right, after Apple launch iPhone by June, these will sell like umbrellas in a submarine

  4. The "30 GB cathegory"? by Martin+Kallisti · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It might be prudent to ask how many different players the "30 GB cathegory" consists of. This sounds like the Zune's total market share is very, very small.

  5. Re:Greetings! by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, since squirting certain songs won't be possible, maybe I should

    wel-
    come
    Europe
    to the
    anti-
    social

  6. 10.2 percent? by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

    He said the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category

    How specific do you want to be? How about this:

    He said the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category, and 100 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte Zune category.

    1. Re:10.2 percent? by sinan · · Score: 5, Funny

      He said the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category

      "If you can't make the numerator rarger, make the denominator smarrer."

            -- Guy Kawasaki - The Computer Curmudgeon

  7. Possible reason for the move by kanweg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that because they have a big stockpile of unsold zunes?

    Bert

  8. Re:iPod? by shawnce · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually one exists, available in black and white.

    Of course it is a funny statement to see coming from Microsoft.

  9. Fishy Numbers by Triv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category, according to the latest data...

    That's fishy to me because it sounds like they mean of concurrent sales (meaning it wouldn't include people who bought 30gb iPods when Apple still made them in that size).

    What that means is, of all media players sold this year that store 30GB of data that aren't iPods, the Zune has a 10% market share which, factoring in Apple's huge part of that market, is much, much smaller a percentage than it sounds like.



    Triv

    1. Re:Fishy Numbers by sangreal66 · · Score: 3, Informative

      the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category, according to the latest data...

      That's fishy to me because it sounds like they mean of concurrent sales (meaning it wouldn't include people who bought 30gb iPods when Apple still made them in that size).

      What that means is, of all media players sold this year that store 30GB of data that aren't iPods, the Zune has a 10% market share which, factoring in Apple's huge part of that market, is much, much smaller a percentage than it sounds like.



      Triv

      The latest iPod comes in 30GB and 80GB. Where are you guys getting this notion that Apple no longer makes 30GB iPods? A quick visit to apple.com will prove that untrue.
    2. Re:Fishy Numbers by WaZiX · · Score: 5, Funny

      What are you talking about? They have HUGE market share on Brown/30 GB/Freescale i. MX31L processor ARM Core/3 Inch QVGA LCD screen(320×240) MP3 players!

  10. Re:iPod? by _xeno_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    You're right. My 5G iPod is actually a 27.82GB model according to the Capacity field in iTunes.

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  11. It wasn't on Sale Here? by WaZiX · · Score: 5, Funny

    With all my excitement over Zune, I actually didn't realize it wasn't even on sale...

  12. I've got a Zune by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My impressions:
    • The wireless feature is fairly useless. It would be nice if lots of people owned Zunes, but I don't see that happening.
    • The Zune software is really blah. That's unfortunate. I wish the Zune hardware interfaced with Windows Media Player 11, which I like more than iTunes. (The iTunes software is one reason I didn't get an iPod.)
    • The killer feature, to me, is the unlimited download subscription service. I've been having a lot of fun with that.
    • And finally, it's amazing to me how much money can be spend on a massively bad marketing campaign.
  13. Even fish would find that statement too fishy. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MOD PARENT UP!!

    This statement sounds fishy: "He said the Zune had a 10.2 percent market share in the U.S. in the 30 gigabyte category, according to the latest data,..."

    I suspect most people don't buy the 30 GigaByte iPod. I suspect that the "latest data" is only for new sales, and doesn't take into account all the iPods already sold in that category.

    I also suspect that the "latest data" is a complete lie. Most people who call themselves marketing professionals are professional liars more than anything, in my experience.

    I'd like to know how many people with no knowledge of MP3 players bought a Zune to give to someone as a Christmas present. I'd like to know how many Zune owners are dissatisfied with them.

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  14. Low bar by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Happy with the sales ...

    I guess their expections were rather on the low side.

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  15. The market share percentage is misleading by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The market share percentage is certainly misleading when you look at the raw numbers: the Zune was introduced in November, and by June (7 months later) they say they will have sold 1 million. On the other hand, Apple sold 21 million iPods in the last quarter alone, and over 8 million in each of the previous 3 quarters.

    In other words, by June Apple should be selling about as many iPods every 10 days as there were Zunes sold in 7 months. Put it that way, and it's hard for Microsoft to brag about.

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    1. Re:The market share percentage is misleading by Platina86 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But in 2001, the marked for mp3 players wasnt that big. Like it is now. So its a little misleading. When you are saying it that way.

  16. So wait... by Kohaku+Nanaya · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're going to launch the Zune in EU, but not in Canada? Do they fear our ability to legally download over here? Oh well... even if it isn't that, I never expect Microsoft to do things logically a lot of the time.

  17. Ballmer said 20-25% of all hard disks models by Peter+Bonte · · Score: 3, Informative

    And now its just 10.5 % in the 30 gigabyte category? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo Ballmer really has no clue at all. :P

  18. When You Head up the Zune Product & Ballmer... by BoRegardless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is your Boss, you had BETTER be quick & nimble with the BIG WORDS, & the HOT PLANS, & the NEW MARKET ENTRY at the NEXT HOLIDAY season, & (most important of all)...

    You had best get your RESUME OUT THERE NOW, and get that FLACK JACKET & HELMET on because you never known when chairs are going to fly again.

    None of this is surprising to anyone I've talked to. No One!

    What I am hearing from diehard PC users I run across is subdued speculation, and NOT about Zune. The speculation is all whether VISTA will mean anything to them.

    I pity the project managers under Ballmer, because their stomachs must be tied in a knot 24 hours a day. Been there, done that, and you can't survive long that way.

  19. -better- europeans by mbaudis · · Score: 4, Funny

    we certainly think so. but then, we lack the outstanding politicians the current u.s. of a. is graced with ;-)

  20. European modifications.. by pesc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft planned extensive research with focus groups in Europe to see how it could be modified for a European consumer.

    Beige?

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  21. Europe collectively..... by edwardpickman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yawns

  22. Opinion on the Zune by rjdegraaf · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Check out the video on the Zune Player (very funny, but true).


    It discusses:
    - MS Zune's does not work with MS Windows Vista
    - MS Zune's incompatibility with (even) MSN Music Format (you have to rebuild your music collection)
    - 4 registration's before buying music from the Zune music store (when player installs, MS passport, Music Store Website, Tag registration)
    - Zune points for buying music, to mislead consumers on the price of music (1 Zune point > 1 dollar, thus 0.79 ZunePoint looks cheaper)
    - Zune player WiFi music share expires songs shared after 3 times listening or 3 days (whichever comes first)

    Hilarious!

    See also: CNN.com ridicules Zune Player