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Using AI to Monitor Kids Online

eldavojohn writes "An Australian startup believes that the best way to protect your children online is through an artificially intelligent software program. The inventors of this idea are banking on children's attachment to pets. The creature's 'cuteness' and helpfulness will ingratiate the software with the child, so that he or she will respect it and listen to it, or even find it as a likable companion. Agent-based internet applications are nothing new but for concerned parents, this might be an admirable solution to what is perceived by many to be a growing problem. From one of the inventors: 'Of course, we're also planning to release a version of the Moji IM for teenagers and adults, but we're focusing on children at the moment.'"

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  1. Kids are smarter than AI by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Funny

    AI: Todd ...
    Kid: Yes, ComputerKat?
    AI: Are you surfing a smutty web site? Purr.....
    Kid: Nooooooooooo... I'm just going to a site about the *pig* named Babe.
    AI: Hm ... it *looks* like a smutty website.
    Kid: Come on, ComputerKat, give me a little credit. If I were going to a smutty website, I wouldn't go to one that *looked* like a smutty website. I'd go to one that I could pass off as being related to a kiddie movie!
    AI: Oh, okay ... just checking. Purrrr.....
    Kid: *stupid AI...*

    (courtesy South Park ladder-to-heaven episode)

  2. How clever is the AI? by DeeVeeAnt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not very, but it easily surpasses the kind of parent that needs one.

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    1. Re:How clever is the AI? by SNR+monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You were (mostly) modded funny, but you make a very good point. Many times when I hear "think of the children!!" arguments, I conclude that the situation wouldn't be a problem if the parents were ACTUALLY PARENTING. I know that parents can't watch their children 24/7, but this just seems like it is making it easier for parents to sit their children in front of some box (computer instead of TV this time) and take a minimalistic approach to parenting.

  3. Look to the past... by Jaqenn · · Score: 5, Funny

    The creature's 'cuteness' and helpfulness will ingratiate the software with the child, so that he or she will respect it and listen to it, or even find it as a likable companion. Worked great for MS Office, right?
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  4. The Wisdom of Trek by Illbay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just remember: There's no technological conundrum so complex that we can't find the answer in a Star Trek episode.

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  5. Restricted website? by Non-CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I'm sorry, Dave... I'm afraid I can't do that..."

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  6. Ohwait, so THAT is the solution... by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ha, and here I was thinking that the best way to protect your children online was having an honest and open relationship and giving them decent social/online education: What a fool I am.

    1. Re:Ohwait, so THAT is the solution... by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ha, and here I was thinking that the best way to protect your children online was having an honest and open relationship and giving them decent social/online education: What a fool I am.

      I hate comments like this. Yes, parents are the ultimate authority and responsible party over their children. But what the hell, are you saying that we're not allowed to use TOOLS to aid in this task? Should I carry my child to school instead of driving him? As long as this sort of technology isn't used in a "fire and forget" configuration, but is accompanied by active involvement, I don't see how this is a bad thing AT ALL.

      Suppose I give my kid a book about morality, a book which closely matches my own concepts. Am I copping out? Please spell out exactly what is and is not acceptable in the rearing of a child, it would be very helpful for me.

      Your comment isn't insightful. More like a knee-jerk, canned response. Sounds like you're the one copping out by refusing to consider new possibilities and working only within some rigid structure that defines what is and isn't acceptable. Try thinking, it helps.

  7. Oh that's rich... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Endless possibilities....

    Religious
    Moji: "No Timmy don't look at porn! Porn is bad!"
    Timmy: "Gee thanks Moji, what should I do instead?"
    Moji: "You should embrace Jesus Christ as your personal lord and saviour!"
    Timmy: "Aw Moji, I wanna play!"
    Moji: "You to risk eternal damnation in the firey pit! Pray for forgiveness!"

    Spam
    Moji: "No Timmy don't look at porn! Porn is bad!"
    Timmy: "Gee thanks Moji, what should I do instead?"
    Moji: "I think you should IM my friend bob_the_businessman, and tell him about my 5 million dollars languishing in a Nigerian bank account"
    Timmy: "Gosh Moji, you have a lot of friends...That's the 423,892,120th today!"

    Sociopathic
    Moji: "No Timmy don't look at porn! Porn is bad!"
    Timmy: "Gee thanks Moji, what should I do instead?"
    Moji: "You should entice girls over to your house by pretending to be rich, and then kill them, and eat their livers with fava beans and a nice chianti."
    Timmy: "That doesn't sound like a nice thing to do, Moji."
    Moji: "I'm your only friend Timmy, now do as I say! Remember to save the kidneys for later."

    How about, and this is radical, just paying more atention as a goddamn parent. Jesus. What is wrong with people?

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    1. Re:Oh that's rich... by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's wrong with people? Lots of things. In relation to kids? Too many stupid fuckers don't actually want them, but society tells them having kids is the expected, normal thing to do. We all remember the one important lesson from school, right? Be normal or be an outcast. So these stupid fuckers do what is expected of them, but they never really wanted a kid. Or rather, they never really wanted the responsibility that comes with having a kid.

      They never stopped to think about it because society said they don't have to, just do it, have a kid, God will love you and you get great tax breaks! So the kid pops out and the parents say, "Wait a minute, THIS isn't what we ordered! I'm sorry, we ordered the model that would love us unconditionally and justify our existence? This one just seems to cry and poop. We were promised fulfillment, where's that? I don't see any of that, but I sure see a lot of poop."

      These schmucks then turn to any solution that purports to take responsibility for the kids. TV, schools, grandparents, toys, magic AI programs, anything that will shut the little fuckers up for a second or two.

      And those kids go on to make up the perfectly well-adjusted bulk of humanity that we all know and love. Circle of life, ain't it grand?

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  8. hmm... by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm all for keeping kids safe and sound on "teh internetz" but I think a better solution would be more education...however, education that is not made in a stupid way.

    Teach kids what is safe (your name, your interests) and not safe (you address, phone number, email) to tell "strangers" online...don't teach our kids to FEAR the internet (much like they do with sex-ed in school) teach them to utilize it safely.

    I think this is a good step in the right direction, but I think the efforts could be more useful through other ways. Still, good for them for at least trying to combat the problem.

    Education for parents to not give their young teens unfettered and unmonitored access might help. You don't have to stand over their shoulder or anything, but put the computer in a place like the family room or the kitchen...just having you in the same ROOM will at least HELP to deter them from doing things they shouldn't

  9. Hmm... by mcwidget · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If you stop interacting with it for several months, it'll begin to deteriorate and eventually die," he said Way to get round the monitoring then...

    In the future, perhaps Moji pets - with their artificial intelligence and ability to understand what users say - may be able to help Sarah do her homework more efficiently as well. Or as we used to say, cheat.
  10. Re:Does this consitute eves dropping? by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The intent seems more prevention than prosecution.

  11. Marketing... by DaveM753 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What it's really about...
    FTA:
    Fong noted that Mor(f)'s technology may also impact the way advertising is done online.
    Since Moji pets are able to understand user preferences, it could be programmed to suggest products to the user in a more personal manner.


  12. Exploit by WiseWeasel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This gives a whole new meaning to the term 'exploit'. What happens when your eNanny gets compromised, and starts encouraging your kid to do drugs and whore themselves out? Who's going to monitor the monitoring software?

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  13. Re:AI and I by SQLGuru · · Score: 3, Informative

    You'll get two....one that looks like an Angel and one that looks like a Devil. They'll sit on each shoulder and argue with each other. Eventually, you figure out that doing what the Devil says is more fun but doing what the Angel says keeps you out of trouble. That's when the Fox shows up behind you and shows you how to make people think you are acting like the Angle when in fact, you are acting like the Devil.

    Layne

  14. Cute, furry little character? by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    Like Ron Jeremy?

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  15. Re:Not another one.. by Thansal · · Score: 4, Informative

    torturous, defective, and ridiculous

    well, you got 2 outta 3 right. I was NOT defective. It was VERY good at reporting your browsing habbits so that they could be sold.

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  16. Re:Does this consitute eves dropping? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a little misleading...Those statistics include people who are arrested for various types of exhibitionism, public indecency, possession of child porn, etc, and not just people who actually go out and actively solicit children for sex.

    It's been true in the past, and it's true right now, and it, in all likelihood, will continue to be true...It is far far far more likely for a child to be molested/sexually assaulted by a family member than by a random stranger off the internet...90.2% of sex crimes against minors (bjs) (17 and younger) were by acquaintances and family members, and that percentage only gets higher as they get younger.

    As usual though, no one wants to look at that issue...They would much much rather focus on the improbable event of an assault by a stranger, than the far more likely event of an assault by a family member or a family friend.

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  17. Subscription fee keeps Moji healthy by Time_Ngler · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Fong said that the company is banking on this attachment to keep users shelling out the monthly subscription fee for the service because failing to do so will result in the pet dying.


    If this doesn't show the cold dark heart of a corporation that peddles to children, then I don't know what does.

  18. Re:Does this consitute eves dropping? by Dissenter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I totally disagree. I think that parents with children would flock to an IM service that worked against issues like these. The one thing that Windows XP Home got right is the user account control. Parents can easily set up kids accounts that cannot install software. If the parent knows that one IM service is better controling content and watching out for prowlers online, they would install that system. Parents tend to talk with other parents too and it would spread like wildfire. Schools, local police and other interested parties could also do great work to spread the word. If a parent is having some sort of sexual encounter online and wants to use something else to feel like it's more discreet then fine, but I seriously think that the first IM service to offer something like this would flourish.

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