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Koreans Advised to "Avoid Vista" for Now

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the as-long-as-warcrack-still-works dept.

An anonymous reader writes "The Chosonilbo reports that several government ministries in South Korea are advising users not to install Windows Vista, at least until popular online services can be made compatible. The problem is that ActiveX is pervasive in the Korean webspace, employed by everyone from web games to online banking. Upgrading to Vista is expected to render many of these services unusable. Portions of the popular "Hangul" word processor, a major competitor to Office in that country, are also not functioning under Vista. The Ministry of Information is planning to publish compatibility information for popular websites, and urging users to carefully research the implications of upgrading."

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  1. Server side FTW! by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Many people ask me why I insist on server side web apps unless there is absolutely positively no way around it. Now they know why. Client side processing means client side requirements. Server side processing means the client can be using anything from a PC with Firefox to an iPhone with... oh wait :P

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  2. why even use ActiveX? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ActiveX is pervasive in the Korean webspace.
    They should move to something that work in linux, mac os, and windows.

  3. Only prudent. by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm actually a MS user and I don't have a rabid irrational hatred of them like many around here. However, I'm not moving to Vista anytime soon. First, there's no compelling reason for me until DX10 games start hitting. Second, Vista is new and has many known issues, including performance issues. Third, all kinds of crap is going to break.

    I think we're going to see Vista be the most slowly adopted OS Microsoft has ever released.

    1. Re:Only prudent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I don't have a rabid irrational hatred..."

      I don't have a rabid irrational hatred of Microsoft either, just a rational one.

    2. Re:Only prudent. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm actually a MS user and I don't have a rabid irrational hatred of them like many around here.

      Neither do we. We have a perfectly rational rabid hatred of them.

      Seriously though, that preamble was unnecessary: it's perfectly okay to be a happy MS user and not be so hot about installing a new product from them. But hot or not, one of these days you'll have to bite the bullet anyway.

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  4. Re:isn't everyone? by The+Bungi · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I thought all businesses were avoiding Vista...

    Maybe you shouldn't use Slashdot as your source of news? Just a thought.

    A company in the midwest I do some consulting for just did a 1,200 desktop test rollout to one of their divisions. They didn't have any legacy problems and were upgrading to Office 2007 anyway, plus they had fairly new machines.

    Like XP vs W2K before, Vista uptake will necessarily be slow, but eventually it will be installed everywhere. In fact, I'm guessing it will be even a bit more successful than XP because all those Windows 2000 holdouts are probably overdue for a machine upgrade as well.

  5. Re:isn't everyone? by spun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm surprised to find a windows consultant claiming that a new version of windows will be successful. It's almost as if his business depends on people paying him to install this kludgy piece of crap, but that just makes no sense.

    Okay, sorry for the sarcasm and the cheap shot.

    I think perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Vista will not be a complete flop, but it will sell well under what Microsoft expects.

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  6. Re:I used to think... by yoasif · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cross browser/OS compatibility isn't important at all?

  7. MS just can't win can they? by GFree · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They create ActiveX; it's has its uses but the security flaws are far too large to ignore.

    People criticize MS for ActiveX, so...

    They remove ActiveX; now there's less of a push for it but existing ActiveX systems are screwed.

    People criticize MS for removing ActiveX, so... ...

    PROFIT?

  8. Re:isn't everyone? by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Vista will not be a complete flop, but it will sell well under what Microsoft expects.
    Unfortunately, build quality and commercial success are quite unrelated. It will be a success. Windows is too entrenched for any other outcome. If Vista is proven to cause spontaneous human combustion then maybe, just maybe, it will be unsuccessful from a sheer number-of-deployments stance.
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  9. Re:I used to think... by yoasif · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not just make it a Windows app then? I'm sure any company that has a Intranet also has VPN, so offsite computing isn't a problem. Also, a Windows app would work even if Apache/IIS went down, but the DB backend stayed up.

    It's disengenuous to ignore that ActiveX is a technology that is meant to use MS's dominant presence on computing to balkanize the web.

  10. Re:Korea.. what a strange place by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Most of them still using CRT's yet high spec computers for gaming.

    Maybe you didn't get the memo, but CRTs are superior to LCDs for gaming in every way but the usual reasons to buy LCD, size and weight. LCDs have one resolution, CRTs can do many resolutions (and true multisync CRTs, which are admittedly a rarity these days, can do all KINDS of things.) The best LCD has a refresh rate and is chunky compared to a CRT, which has persistence due to phosphors.

    SED is supposed to address the issue of persistence, but won't solve any of the other issues.

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  11. Re:isn't everyone? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I go to University Surplus Equipment auctions where the small businessmen who sell to 'Joe Windows' buy the used machines cheap. Believe me, there is a thriving business for used PCs. So much so that now Dell is trying, in the false name of 'recycling', to suck all the old gear back to Dell Central so they can make sure it's dismantled and (most likely) shipped to China for disposal.

    A lot of the buyers of the used PC gear at auction now are people of color, who recycle/rebuild for their local communities. Lotsa good stuff gets out to people who can make good use of it that way. It's only a matter of time before these people discover they can continue on using the inexpensive machines much better and even use current software by not letting anything Redmond touch the hard drives.