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SCO Vs. Groklaw
Conrad Mazian points us to an article in Forbes reporting that the SCO Group is trying to subpoena Pamela Jones of Groklaw. Except they can't find her. A few days ago PJ posted a note on Groklaw saying that she is taking some time away from the blog for health reasons; she didn't mention any SCO deposition. SCO's lawyers apparently believe that "Pamela Jones" does not exist and that Groklaw is penned by a team of IBM lawyers.
See her wikipedia page. It lists her as author of several articles and co-author of a book. At some point she had to meet with editors or sign a contract, information about all of which is probably subject to subpoena. If SCO hasn't looked into this they're just spreading FUD. (The wikipedia article is the first listing when googling "Pamela Jones," for goodness sake: linky
And here's a memorable quote from that post, where she's explaining her reasons for resigning:
Money is nice, but integrity is everything. --PJ, Groklaw.
Truly an amazing lady.
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That's the service GoDaddy uses when you chose "Make this domain private". They hold the registration and then just forward all the e-mail (and US mail too I believe) to whatever they have on record for you.
Most registrars have something similar.
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Optimism. There have been several cases where GoDaddy and DomainsByProxy gave up that information, even without subpoena - notably, recently, a certain security blog that got a lot of coverage on Slashdot a week or so ago.
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Whoever modded this down is an idiot. The fact is, Daniel Lyons at Forbes has a long history of attacking Groklaw and Pamela Jones. I believe he even once published the address from a 'whois' lookup on groklaw.net, believing that it was Pamela's address. Luckily she'd used a P.O box (or something) in a different state to register the domain. But that gives you indication of the ad hominim attacks that SCO and its supporters indulge in.
Just do a Google search. Sadly, many of these articles have been linked from here on Slashdot, giving Forbes and Daniel the page hits they desire.
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<a href="http://yourURLhere">Your text here</a>
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It was actually posted to Slashdot ages ago. Of course, it's very old and he might well have changed it by now. I have absolutely no idea whether this information is still accurate. Here's a copy of that old post:
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End Reader Licensing Agreement
By reading this, you agree not to sue me and not to use this information in any illegal manner.
Here's all the contact info you should ever need for Mr. McBride.
The SCO Group
355 South 520 West
Suite 100
Lindon, Utah 84042 USA
801-765-4999 phone
801-765-1313 fax
Contact SCO online
http://www.thescogroup.com/company/feedback/index
Darl C McBride
1799 Vintage Oak Ln
Salt Lake City, UT 84121-6539
Darl's home phone #: (801)424-2006
Darl's office phone #: 801-932-5820
Email Darl: darl@sco.com
"To comply with any applicable laws, government rules or requirements, subpoenas, court orders or requests of law enforcement"
If they really wanted, they could probably subpoena this registrant for the information.. to the next one in the chain.
Doubtful. All of her sources are court filings (which are matters of public record) or things like SCO's own press releases (which are also public), so what's to protect?
Well having followed Groklaw almost from outset, and having watched a very distasteful episode where SCO paid a journalist to track down Pamela, who then posted an article showing pictures of PJ car, house a mother I pretty certain from that alone PJ is a real person.
Added to that I've spoken to her on the phone and exchanged over the last few years perhaps a couple of dozen emails, she seems very real to me.
BTW, the article I mention above was withdrawn almost if not totally by all the websites that carried it and indeed some news editors resigned from their posts in protests at what they and many others saw as a gross violation of privacy.
All the details can be found on Groklaw itself, and Im sure creative use of the internet archive can bring back the disappeared articles no problem.
And finally, whilst I have no idea about the status of PJ health, I can say from the conversation I had with her a couple of months back I was left thinking she felt pressured and harassed (she didn't say that, it was just the impression I got), I can also confirm from conversations I've had with her she holds herself to a very high level of integrity in what she does and says.
That SCO are trying to find her again, after the last debacle just leaves me with an even bitterer taste in my mouth with SCO, something I didnt think was possible.
It's no secret that PJ treasures anonymity more than most people, very careful and maybe is slightly paranoid (though I don't think there's anything wrong with that)
I've heard that a few people have met her in person, though most people don't talk so much about it because she likes her anonymity and most public figures respect that.
Besides, if you read Groklaw enough you'll realise she's definitely one person and pretty definitely a woman. To tell the truth I really wouldn't be surprised if Pamela Jones isn't her real name, but to tell the truth names are not something I really care about. (strider, by the way, is not my real name)
ibiblio has hosted GrokLaw for years. But I am not Pamela Jones. We also host Eric S. Raymond's site. But I am not Eric S. Raymond.
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This is nasty!
This article is like an old family reunion, Maureen is there, Enderle makes an appearance... no Darl, though.
Frankly I don't have time to be Pamela Jones; being Paul Jones is a full time job with too much overtime! And GrokLaw existed quite a while before coming to ibiblio -- as did Eric S. Raymond's site.
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FTA: The SCO vs. IBM lawsuit won't go to trial until a related case, SCO vs. Novell (nasdaq: NOVL - news - people ), has been decided. That case, which is scheduled to be tried later this year, is the one for which SCO is attempting to take a deposition from Jones. All this talk about IBM is irrelevant. She is being deposed in the Novell case.