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4 GB May Be Vista's RAM Sweet Spot

jcatcw writes "David Short, an IBM consultant who works in the Global Services Division and has been beta testing Vista for two years, says users should consider 4GB of RAM if they really want optimum Vista performance. With Vista's minimum requirement of 512MB of RAM, Vista will deliver performance that's 'sub-XP,' he says. (Dell and others recommend 2GB.) One reason: SuperFetch, which fetches applications and data, and feeds them into RAM to make them accessible more quickly. More RAM means more caching."

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  1. Turn SuperFetch off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "More RAM means more caching."

    Well, Duh...

    Remember the $40/Meg RAM days?

    1. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      I remember the $40/MB RAM!

      $100,000 for 16K? Teehee, and you had to build a new wing for it.

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      Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    2. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by Who235 · · Score: 5, Funny

      What I think is needed is a way to see what ram is used by superfetch and maybe even for what.


      Vista: RAM is very important to your system. Are you sure you want to look at your RAM?

      You: OK

      Vista: Are you sure? Anything you do might cause your computer to perform poorly. Are you sure?

      You: OK

      Vista: Really? Cause I don't think you'd even know what to look for. Are you sure?

      You: OK

      Vista: Really?

      You: OK

      etc. . .
    3. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by r00tman · · Score: 5, Funny
      Translated for teh interwebs:

      Vista: O rly?


      You: Ya rly!

    4. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Vista only uses 75%? What crappy caching.

      Linux can manage to fill all 2gigs of my home server's memory fairly easily. Said server only hosts my blog and the odd other thing.
      Its basically all cache.

    5. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by fbjon · · Score: 2, Funny

      CTRL+SHIT+ESCAPE
      Can't control your bowel movements?
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    6. Re:Turn SuperFetch off by MindKata · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thats a great way to improve its performance.

      Then they could cache all that RAM into a new system file and call it pagefile2.sys

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  2. heh heh by User+956 · · Score: 4, Funny

    4 GB May Be Vista's RAM Sweet Spot

    But I'm guessing it's going to be a sticking point for most consumers. At least, the ones without a sugar daddy.

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    1. Re:heh heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      But I'm guessing it's going to be a sticking point for most consumers.
      What do you mean? I'm getting 8 GB so I'll be ready for SP2!
  3. Great idea Microsoft! by linuxkrn · · Score: 5, Funny


    1) Cache contents of entire hard disk to RAM
    2) Claim performance boost in Vista
    3) Profit!

  4. Article in a nutshell... by diesel66 · · Score: 5, Funny

    More RAM == Better!

    This message brought to you by: Article in a Nutshell (TM)

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  5. He must still be running by thammoud · · Score: 2, Funny

    Display write and a 3270 emulator.

  6. More RAM by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    means more CASHing!

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    Never been known to fail..."
    1. Re:More RAM by ThePengwin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft: "Hey dell"
      Dell: "What?"
      Microsoft: "Want some of this?"
      *Microsoft waves a bunch of cash in dells face*
      Dell: "Yes please :D"

      You can Imagine the rest...

    2. Re:More RAM by klebermagno · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mr. Steve Jobs, Release MACOX for common PC x86. PLEASE!!! You will make money

    3. Re:More RAM by csnydermvpsoft · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can Imagine the rest...

      I think there was a cigar involved.

  7. To be safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...640 GB should be enough for everyone.

  8. Re:Pre-emptive strike! by dotgain · · Score: 5, Funny

    "640,000 DIMM slots ought to be enough for anyone"

  9. Re:Bad news for intel here.. by Ucklak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cue Vista copying the Mac.....

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  10. Re:4GB? 64bit here we come! Lets just hope *nix wi by db32 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They have great 64 bit offerings. You just have to purchase 32 licenses for their 2 bit offerings to get there.

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  11. Re:Pre-emptive strike! by RulerOf · · Score: 1, Funny

    640 gigs ought to be enough for anybody.

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  12. Translation by truthsearch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Translation:

    It's FUD that you need more RAM.

    I always need more RAM.

    (Yeah, another logical /. post.)

  13. Re:I disagree by wall0159 · · Score: 5, Funny


    Heh. And Apple's "super slick" interface runs just fine on my three year old iBook (800Mhz G4, 640mb RAM) and I typically have >15 applications open at a time.

    I know this is not a reasonable comparison, as Windows can't open 15 apps at a time
    (joke)

  14. Re:What? by WhyDoYouWantToKnow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Genuine question, what functionality would I gain by going to vista and quadrupling my ram?

    The satisfaction in knowing that you are no longer using an operating system that directly contributes to the decline of Microsoft's profits?

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  15. 4 Gig is recommended.... by devphaeton · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....if you don't want Vista to run like OSX.

    Besides, this will just accelerate the "faster and cheaper every month" rule for hardware. It's a good thing(tm)

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  16. Egads! I fear the return of [cue scary music] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    emm.sys. That should send waves of chills through the grey-hairs here!

  17. Re:What? by fyoder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Genuine question, what functionality would I gain by going to vista and quadrupling my ram? I don't think there's any Linux distribution that can match Vista when it comes to DRM (digital restriction management). I'm a Linux user as well. Fedora Core 4. Should probably upgrade, but it just works for the most part, so there's not a lot of incentive. Not sure what the advantages are of this DRM stuff, everything I've read about it actually sounds kind of like something I wouldn't want. But if you're into it, it sounds like Vista would be a much better choice than any distribution of Linux. Though Novel has a relationship with Microsoft -- perhaps they'll come out with a DRM rich Linux distro for all the Linux users who want DRM. Personally I'm going to wait and see what the advantages of DRM are before switching.
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  18. Re:Seriously by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

    > people watch and store videos and music on their computer -- sometimes simultaneously.

    Sure, you can watch video with a 800 Mhz, 256 MB, Windows 2000 box. But you can't do all the real-time encryption / decryption operations required for modern DRM systems. So we're SO MUCH better off with today's faster machines and Vista.

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  19. Re:I disagree by scoot80 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You fellas have computers in outback Queensland? :P

  20. Dealing with Vista by crontabminusell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am I the only one reminded of the Infocom game Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy whenever someone describes their experience with Vista?

    Corridor, Aft End
    This is one end of a short corridor that continues fore along the main deck of the Heart of Gold. Doorways lead to aft and port. In addition, a gangway leads downward.

    >go south
    That entrance leads to the Infinite Improbability Drive chamber. It's supposed to be a terribly dangerous area of the ship. Are you sure you want to go in there?

    >go south
    Absolutely sure?

    >go south
    I can tell you don't want to really. You stride away with a spring in your step, wisely leaving the Drive Chamber safely behind you. Telegrams arrive from well-wishers in all corners of the Galaxy congratulating you on your prudence and wisdom, cheering you up immensely.

    >go south
    What? You're joking, of course. Can I ask you to reconsider?

    >go south
    Engine Room
    You're in the Infinite Improbability Drive chamber. Nothing happens; there is nothing to see.

    >look
    I mean it! There's nothing to see here!

    >look
    Okay, okay, there are a FEW things to see here...


    (the above with all due respect to Douglas Adams, Steve Meretzky, and Infocom)

  21. Vista as Martin the depressive robot by wass · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your post makes me wonder whether Microsoft might eventually add various personalities to the Vista warnings.
    Eg, as Martin the depressive robot :

    OS : You are about to visit a web page. It sounds like fun, but I'm just stuck being a boring OS assistant. Do you really want to go there?
    You : Yes
    OS : Figures, I'll never have even a fraction of the fun you're having using this computer. That page wants to run a flash application. Are you sure you want to go to that web page?
    You : yes, dammit
    OS : You are annoyed at me, I'm just a dumb lowly Operating System security warning system. You probably don't even care about me at all. Do you want me to stop nagging you?
    You : YES, PLEASE shut the hell up
    OS : Oh, that's great, I've been programmed with state of the art security warning information, and you just don't want to appreciate my pathetic self. Are you sure you really want to turn me off?
    You : YES, go away and never come back.
    OS : Fine, I'll just sit here in my own misery, and hope that you turn me back on one day, which you probably won't.

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  22. Re:THis is obscene! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    With Vista you get better DRM so that the pirates cannot steal your movies and credit cards.

  23. Re:I disagree by Snufu · · Score: 0, Funny

    and I typically have >15 applications open at a time. Ha! You lie. You really expect us to believe there are 15 different applications available for the Mac?
  24. Re:I disagree by animaal · · Score: 1, Funny

    I know this is not a reasonable comparison, as Windows can't open 15 apps at a time And the Mac doesn't have 15 apps. Unless you mean 15 instances of Photoshop?
  25. Bill Says... by dintech · · Score: 2, Funny

    4GB ought to be enough for anyone.