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Scientists Predicting Intentions

An anonymous reader writes to tell us German scientists claim to have the means of predicting decisions of high level mental activity. "In the past, experts had been able to detect decisions about making physical movements in advance. But researchers at Berlin's Bernstein Center for Computational Neuroscience claim they have now, for the first time, identified people's decisions about how they would later do a high-level mental activity _ in this case, adding versus subtracting."

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  1. Suspicion by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My first reaction is suspicion.... suspicion of a whole lot of possibilities regardless of whether or not this work has any validity. For instance, I've talked with more than one DOD general who was interested in military applications of electroencephalograms for "mind reading" and such. Certainly there are some applications for lie detection such as the P300, but one has to be very careful about the structure of the interview so as to not attempt to extract non-meaningful information from an evoked potential. My concern is that a whole bunch of additional DARPA type money will suddenly be thrown at the problem and claims will be made that will further impinge upon individual rights and freedoms waaaaaay before even the science is understood (not that understanding science is an excuse to stomp on civil liberties).

    My more immediate concern is of the claims that are being made. The fundamental problem of course is developing a global signature for mind reading that is clean enough to derive robust statistics, keeping in mind that individuals brains are far from uniform in their anatomy, physiology or wiring. Work I performed more than a decade ago revealed similar cortical mapping patterns on subjects who performed tasks and then imagined performing those tasks. Certainly it is possible to determine volitional movements based upon our knowledge of neuroanatomy and statistical averages of wiring, but predicting "intentions" is a whole other ball game. The article is light on details and I've tried a search on more in-depth content, but if they are labeling "intentions" as complex behaviors, my eyebrows will be raised. For instance, determining which of two buttons to press invokes a whole series of kinesthetic volitional programming that should be able to be determined by mapping pre-motor cortex. However, if "intentions" are whether or not to engage in complex behaviors are what they are talking about, there is much more complex circuitry to consider including the possibility of imagery or imagining an action versus actually volitionally engaging in that activity.

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    1. Re:Suspicion by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      My first reaction is suspicion

      As I knew it would be!

    2. Re:Suspicion by BWJones · · Score: 2, Funny

      OK, I almost sprayed coffee all over my keyboard and displays. Somebody mod this as funny!

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    3. Re:Suspicion by yali · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here's how this stuff works. Step 1, scientist do incremental, meaningful, but boring (to those outside their specialty) work. Step 2, media picks up on story and puts overreaching spin on story. (Alternatively, the scientists, the journal, or the university's PR office puts out a press release supplying overreaching spin to credulous journalists.) Step 3, everybody sits back in wonderment at a finding that essentially establishes what we already knew: that mental processes take place in the physical brain.

      Parent poster is right about the special demands of individual prediction. The basic science might be incrementally useful - trying to ultimately understand how future planning/intentions take place in the brain. (And given the breadth of mental operations that could be considered "intentions," there are probably hundreds of more studies that need to be done before that question can begin to be answered.) But going from a scientific explanatory mode, where you have potentially large samples and budgets and cooperative subjects, to prediction of individual behavior is a huge leap. Just look at a much older psychometric approach, the TAT, which is okay for research but lousy for individual prediction. Brain scanning may well turn out to be the next TAT, for precisely the same reasons.

      Part of the problem is that a lot of this work is being done by medical researchers and neuroscientists who have no basic training in psychometrics. They're just reinventing old mistakes (but wasting a hell of a lot more money this time around).

    4. Re:Suspicion by venicebeach · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, fMRI will never be able to predict intentions in real time due to the hemodynamic lag, and is currently practically impossible to analyze online due technical limitations. What they did was use information which occured before the decision to predict which decision was later made. However, this analysis was done after the decision was made . That is to say, after the scans were over, the data from the few seconds before the decision was found to be predictive of which way the decision went. So it's not like they really knew what was going to happen before it did.

    5. Re:Suspicion by drfireman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no question that fMRI researchers have an ugly history of reinventing old mistakes. But I don't know that a lack of training in psychometrics is the problem. More to the point, is it really true that "going from a scientific explanatory mode, where you have potentially large samples and budgets and cooperative subjects, to prediction of individual behavior is a huge leap?"

      Well, sort of. My impression is that this has little to do with a lack of training in psychometrics, but a lot to do with the more general problem, evident to anyone who reviews the occasional fMRI article, that researchers like to make unquantified (or improperly quantified) observations. Most often the data are there, just not analyzed properly. This is really just a basic issue with the use and reporting of inferential statistics.

      That said, I don't honestly see that it's a big issue here. It seems like the authors did something sort of reasonable and drew mostly reasonable conclusions (I say this without having given it the close reading I reserve for research I really care about). My sense is that the desire to overextend the results is coming more from the reporting of the article and less from the reporting in the article. In other words, it's not clear to me who needs the training in psychometrics.

  2. devil's advocate by User+956 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    researchers at Berlin's Bernstein Center for Computational Neuroscience claim they have now, for the first time, identified people's decisions about how they would later do a high-level mental activity _ in this case, adding versus subtracting."

    A big portion of the work of prosecution in this country is spent proving intent. For example, the funny-looking guy that hangs out at the playground. Is he a creep, or is he just a birdwatcher? Obviously, a scanning device would figure that out pretty quick.

    (... And I guarantee you that's the same kind of argument they'll make when pushing this thing, too. Because it's all about protecting the children. even at the expense of your fourth amendment rights.)

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    1. Re:devil's advocate by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can prove intent, but intent is not enough to get a conviction: you need the act to have been committed or attempted too. There is no crime of having intent to rob, but there is one of robbery (theft) or of entering a house with intent to rob (burglary). If people start being prosecuted for mere intentions, then you need to fix the law, not worry about mind-reading devices (which after all are just the messenger).

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    2. Re:devil's advocate by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Turns out he is both, he is watching the birds trying to figure out which one to molest. Who would have guessed?

  3. Pre-Crime by biocute · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean like what Tom Cruise did 5 years ago?

    1. Re:Pre-Crime by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, this technology will far and away make crime a risky business. Whether your name is Mohammed or Jerry Maguire, this should be able to separate out the real criminals without any collateral damage. Hopefully though this stays in the hands of a few good men who make all the right moves - ones who aren't swayed by the color of money - or else our society could collapse into a war of the worlds.

    2. Re:Pre-Crime by Dan+Slotman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huh. Insightful is it? I just see a lot of Tom Cruise movie titles strung together. Where I come from, that's a joke!

  4. I, for one,... by Joe+Random · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...intend on welcoming our mind-reading overlords (as they well know).

  5. I randomize lots of things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just because I like variety in my life, I use an external randomizer (flip a coin, roll a die) to decide lots of things...do I go down 10th Street or 9th Street?
    I'm now seeing that this was a very wise decision....
    I do a lot of sub-optimal things, but at least I'm not predicatable

  6. Re:Cool I think by Joe+Random · · Score: 3, Funny

    Truly you have a dizzying intellect.

  7. Whoa. by FlyByPC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Adding and subtracting is "high-level" intellectual activity, now?

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  8. Yes, but... by Halo1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... can they also predict dupes?

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  9. neat but... by symes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then they studied which type of patterns were associated with different intentions.

    "If you knew which thought signatures to look for, you could theoretically predict in more detail what people were going to do in the future," said Haynes.

    Which isn't a million miles from... "we observed that just before our participant scratched their nose they raised thier hand". Using this observation we were able to predict when participants were about to scratch thier nose. And did so with an accuracy rate of 70%."

    Don't get me wrong - I think this research is very interesting - but a little over egged at this moment in time.

  10. Re:A bit ambiguous by Toonol · · Score: 2, Funny
    What is likely, is they can't tell whether you will buy a PS3 or an XBox 360

    Sheesh, I can tell you that... they ain't gonna buy a PS3.

  11. Actual research article by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

    As usual, the linked artice is sparse on actual details. Here's a link to the actual article in Current Biology:

    http://www.current-biology.com/content/article/abs tract?uid=PIIS0960982206026583&highlight=haynes

    The full text requires a subscription, but I've pasted the abstract below:

    Reading Hidden Intentions in the Human Brain

    When humans are engaged in goal-related processing, activity in prefrontal cortex is increased [1, 2]. However, it has remained unclear whether this prefrontal activity encodes a subject's current intention [3]. Instead, increased levels of activity could reflect preparation of motor responses [4, 5], holding in mind a set of potential choices [6], tracking the memory of previous responses [7], or general processes related to establishing a new task set. Here we study subjects who freely decided which of two tasks to perform and covertly held onto an intention during a variable delay. Only after this delay did they perform the chosen task and indicate which task they had prepared. We demonstrate that during the delay, it is possible to decode from activity in medial and lateral regions of prefrontal cortex which of two tasks the subjects were covertly intending to perform. This suggests that covert goals can be represented by distributed patterns of activity in the prefrontal cortex, thereby providing a potential neural substrate for prospective memory [8, 9, 10]. During task execution, most information could be decoded from a more posterior region of prefrontal cortex, suggesting that different brain regions encode goals during task preparation and task execution. Decoding of intentions was most robust from the medial prefrontal cortex, which is consistent with a specific role of this region when subjects reflect on their own mental states.


    Also, the final paragraph from the conclusion, which discusses where they'd like to go with this in the future:

    Taken together, our results extend previous studies on the processing of goals in prefrontal cortex in several important ways. They reveal for the first time that spatial response patterns in medial and lateral prefrontal cortex encode a subject's covert intentions in a highly specific fashion. They also demonstrate a functional separation in medial prefrontal cortex, where more anterior regions encode the intention prior to its execution and more posterior regions encode the intention during task execution. These findings have important implications not only for the neural models of executive control, but also for technical and clinical applications, such as the further development of brain-computer interfaces, that might now be able to decode intentions that go beyond simple movements and extend to high-level cognitive processes.