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Vista Can Run Without Activation for a Year

An anonymous reader gave us a heads up on this article for people who like putting things off. It begins: "Windows Vista can be run for at least a year without being activated, a serious end-run around one of Microsoft's key anti-piracy measures, Windows expert Brian Livingston said today. Livingston, who publishes the Windows Secrets newsletter, said that a single change to Vista's registry lets users put off the operating system's product activation requirement an additional eight times beyond the three disclosed last month. With more research, said Livingston, it may even be possible to find a way to postpone activation indefinitely."

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  1. And how long.... by Tanuki64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...does it run with activation key? SCNR :-)

    1. Re:And how long.... by jkrise · · Score: 3, Funny

      Until Service Pack 1 comes out.
      Or until you insert an Ubuntu CD.
      Or until you stop the messy Windows Update service.
      Or you keep posting negative comments about Microsoft on Slashdot.

      whichever is earlier.

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  2. Why bother? by BiggyP · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since microsoft have made it perfectly clear that they don't want anyone running their OS without paying, why continue to try, how about giving one of the many shiny desktop linux distros a go instead?

    1. Re:Why bother? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is what they say, but I don't think that's true. They rather have me running Vista illegally than running Linux legally. Why? Because it increases their market share, which in turn benefits to them. I am also more likely to choose Windows in my business decisions or demand Windows Vista from my employer because "that is what I know".

      For students and poorer people they damn well want them to pirate Vista.... They might one day become paying customers.

      Piracy is a form of advertisement, as odd as it may sound.

      (I run Debian Etch, thank you very much)

    2. Re:Why bother? by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Piano doesn't come with WGA. And I don't need a DRM key to play pieces out of a book :-)

      That automatically tips the favour to the piano.

      Tom

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    3. Re:Why bother? by value_added · · Score: 4, Informative

      She has to run a windows application for her work and it doesn't work under wine so I got the free vmware player but got stuck because you need the commercial version to create a virtual disk.

      Maybe try using the free vmware server product and get unstuck?

    4. Re:Why bother? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But the attitude of these guys was just take it, we don't care which surprised me a lot.

      Not me... You have to realise that many IT people are not real IT people. Some just ended up on the job. They don't care about licenses. Heck, even those that studied IT often don't care. The prime task to them is: "Get it work". That this implies a pirated Windows is irrelevant to them. (Often they don't have to care because the company they work for has a Volume License anyway).

      This is mostly an ethical question. Even more so than a legal one. To me at least... I don't really care that it's illegal to pirate, but I care about not *being* a pirate. However, many people do not make that distinction: "it'll get the job done, and that is enough". I admit to pirating Windows XP (I got a volume license copy), but I slowly but surely phasing out all my illegal copies to Linux or stick with the OEM copies I have. It's one of the reasons that my brothers machine runs XP Home instead of my highly customized XP Pro installation. It came with his OEM computer and is legal... but it does give me much more grief than my customized pirated versions....

    5. Re:Why bother? by bigdavex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put Gentoo CD in drive, install, no need for license key bullshit. When I get bored I play the piano, or if music isn't my fancy I turn on the xbox and play something.

      Right, you have to do something while it compiles.
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    6. Re:Why bother? by rucs_hack · · Score: 5, Funny

      1: Put gentoo cd in drive
      2: wade through the initial setup in the voluminous manual
      3: try to work out how the hell textmode web browsers work
      4: discover gnome won't emerge and compile because you don't have -tk set as a USE flag
      5: Try to figure out what the fuck a USE flag is anyway
      6: Spend a day trying to set up X.org
      7: mistakenly try to compile Openoffice from source
      8: wait...
      9: wait....
      10: wait....
      11: Find that your config files need updating.
      11: Realise Gnome is screwed because you updated the config files wrong
      12: Give up on Gnome, try to install KDE
      13: wait..
      14: wait....
      15: wait.....
      16: find that something you want is masked, unmask it. Smiling happily as it compiles
      17: slowly realise that you've done something very very bad...
      18: Give the fuck up and try Fedora instead

    7. Re:Why bother? by BiggyP · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, it could be argued that an ubuntu, fedora, mandriva, suse, well, just about any non source system, could be up and running somewhat quicker and with less fuss than a Gentoo installation.

    8. Re:Why bother? by HAKdragon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why not demand that Blizzard port it to OpenGL and other OSes so that you can have the freedom to run your computer how you see fit?

      All of Blizzard's 3D games (and even Diablo II), have the ability to run using OpenGL. That's how they work on the Mac. (Yes yes, I know by other OSes you probably meant Linux.)

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    9. Re:Why bother? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Sir,

      We have asked your piano tuner to forward this letter to you in advance of our filing lawsuit against you in federal court for copyright infringement under the auspices of the recently passed Copyright Act for Analog Playback (CrAAP). We represent a number of large record companies, including SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT, Universal Music Group, and Warner Music Group, as well as all of their subsidiaries ("Record Companies,") in perusing claims of copyright infringement against individuals who have illegally played copyrighted works on their pianos to an audience.

      We have gathered evidence that you have been infringing copyrights owned by the Record Companies. We are attaching to this letter a sample of the sheet music found in your stool drawer. In total, you were found to be potentially playing to an audience 321 songs, a substantial number of which are songs controlled by the Record Companies.

      The reason we are sending you this letter to you in advance of filing suit is to give you the opportunity to settle these claims are early as possible. If you contact us within the next twenty (20) calendar days with proof that you have destroyed any mecxhanism for the analog playback of potentially copyrighted music, we will offer to settle the claims for a significantly reduced amount compared to the judgment amount a court may enter against you...

      IF WE DO NOT HEAR FROM YOU IN TWENTY (20) DAYS WE WILL FILE SUIT AGAINST YOU IN FEDERAL COURT.

      Sincerely, Douchebag McNumbnuts

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  3. Again I say! by arpy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Tag it: "defectivebyaccident"!

  4. How long before Microsoft patches Vista by lthown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, they do have this little windows update thing that sends out updates, I'm sure it's mostly trivial for them to fix the flaw

    1. Re:How long before Microsoft patches Vista by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True, windows simply is not trustworthy. I mean automatic updates are something great, but a company, which uses such a system to further their own interests and not that of their customers is simply unacceptable.

      100% agreement with you. Notice, though, how (at the end of TFA) Microsoft's position is that product activation is for the benefit of their customers. Something along the lines of "products hacked to avoid activation may be faulty" and such. So, a forced patch through Windows Update would be 'for the good of the customers', to save them from the perils of running WGA-less Windows. War is peace, and all that.

      One can only hope that in the long run such anti-consumer activity will come back to haunt them.
  5. Why Vista? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, delaying activation is fine, but why would you want Vista in the first place? My laptop died recently and I bought a replacement Thinkpad. It came pre-loaded with Vista Business. I gave it a try for two weeks.

    - Despite having 1GB RAM, the laptop ran like a glued snail.
    - Network speed was inconsistent and seems to be bound to movements of the sun.
    - Many printers (including my HP 2600n) are still unsupported. Not sure if this is HP being their usual crap self or just a complete inability to get Vista to play properly with network printers.
    - Aero. Why?
    - So many features like "Map Network Drive" have now been moved so they can only be access from specfic areas like "My Computer"
    - The updated XP style for control panel etc is really frustrating.
    - When opening some MS Office 2007 applications, the screen would corrupt then everything would hang for about 3 minutes.
    - Maybe a problem with Vista's sound libraries? Music sounded tinny through Vista, but cleaner in XP on the same machine.

    Anyways, enough of that bollocks. I've wiped the whole disk and installed XP pro again.

    1. Re:Why Vista? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Many printers (including my HP 2600n) are still unsupported. Haha. You were suckered into the age-old "host based printer" scam. "Host based" printers don't internally support a standard printer language like PostScript or PCL. Instead, the printer only supports a proprietary protocol which requires a specialized, vendor-provided OS-specific driver. Only in a few cases have people been able to reverse-engineer a subset of these protocols.

      A major disadvantage to this for consumers that it allows manufacturers to "sunset" older printers.

      That's why I only buy standards-based printers - it allows me to decide when my printer is no longer viable. All of my printers are more than 10 years old, and I have no plans to retire any of them.

      Printer manufacturers don't provide host based printers in order to save inordinate amounts of money per unit - the chipsets required to support PCL and/or postscript are very inexpensive. This is all about vendor control.
  6. That is intentional. by nietsch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On the one hand MS tries to make life hard for the small time infringers (most of them), but on the other hand they still need to be number one of most infringed software, so there needs to be a backdoor. They need to be the most infringed because the infringers are the easiest turned customers. If there were no ways to get around MS licencing tricks, there would be no more potential new customers when the next release of Windos arrives.
    My Father decided to buy a fresh Vista licence after using illegal versions before. That lasted about 3 days, then he decided to switch to linux (no, it had something to do with a 64bit intel compiler that was beer-free on linux only).

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  7. This isn't news by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are hacks out there to modify the countthe activation timer so that it never times out. The cracking group Parardox also supposedly released a crack that is suppose to emulate a bios to bypass the activation process all together.

  8. Edit the SkipRearm Key by Dekortage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft tells ya how to do it.

    How long before we see this as a Slashdot user name? "Hi, I'm Skip -- Skip Rearm."

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    1. Re:Edit the SkipRearm Key by SkipRearm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hi ! I'm Skip, Skip Rearm.

    2. Re:Edit the SkipRearm Key by SkipRearm · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not new, I'm just reactivated every once in a while...

  9. Very Exciting, but already done by ehaggis · · Score: 5, Funny

    My Linux box runs for at least a year without activation also.

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    1. Re:Very Exciting, but already done by daranz · · Score: 3, Funny
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  10. Re:More DRM madness by aeschenkarnos · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is the first time I've heard of Windows Activation being referred to as DRM.

    Digital? Check. Rights? Check. Management? Sure looks like it to me.

  11. Security Update for Windows Vista (KB666666) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Download size: 773 KB , less than 1 minute
    A security issue has been identified that could allow you to compromise your Windows-based system using regedit and gain control of your licensing destiny. You can help protect our destiny by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you wil be required to restart your computer.

  12. Re:Just extends the captive marketshare... by value_added · · Score: 4, Funny

    the so-called sysadmins in Corporate settings who will not learn ipconfig, iptables and basic Unix commands..

    $ ipconfig
    bash: ipconfig: command not found

    $ echo "alias ipconfig=ifconfig" >> ~/.bashrc

    It's never ceased to amaze me the sheer number of workarounds one collects when using or administering Windows systems. To say nothing of endless variations of regkeys and values that must be memorised, but change frequently enough to remind you that the sum total of your knowledge is mostly a collection of useless trivia.

  13. Round and Round and Round It Goes... by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It doesn't stop pirates.

    But it does deny access to paying customers... some of Microsoft's biggest and best customers.

    So Microsoft needs to put in a backdoor so that their support professionals can take care of those customers over the phone.

    But if you're telling hundreds of people about a backdoor, sooner or later it will leak.

    So Microsoft will need to patch the backdoor.

    But if they do that, once again, they'll be screwing their best customers.

    So they'll need to open another backdoor. Quite possibly the new backdoor will be opened by the very same patch that closes the SkipRearm backdoor.

    Microsoft doesn't benefit from this. Microsoft's customers don't benefit from it. The only people who benefit from it is the computer trade press and Slashdot, which is assured of an endless stream of news stories to talk about.

  14. Re:Just don't bother... by jslater25 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I find to be horribly ironic is that Vista is everything that many users ASKED for. They wanted shiny graphics. They wanted a calendar on the desktop; they wanted to see search capability on the Start menu. IE7 was something IE users requested. Task switching (displaying folders like a Rolodex). My Computer is now simply named Computer to help lessen the confusion. Something called a Breadcrumb Bar. The list goes on.

    Now, before everyone starts bashing me, please note I did not say ALL users asked for this. Nor did I say ANY /. users wanted any part of this. In fact, any techno-literate person would prefer not to have the added processes that Vista has running all the time. Personally, I don't see much point in going to Vista because I don't want a calendar on the desktop, I don't want to sacrifice my collection of games for the few that MS has added only for Vista. I prefer few processes running in the background to optimize my system for what I want running, not what MS believes I should have running.

    Unfortunately for those in an office setting, many will be forced to go to Vista when OEM dealers stop offering XP as an option. I know my office will be looking at Vista within a year because we are too lazy to buy XP licenses and reinstall Windows XP after wiping the HDD of Vista.