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France Opens Secret UFO Files
Radon360 notes that France has become the first country to open its files on UFOs. A new website lists over 1600 sightings dating back to the 1950s.
"The online archives, which will be updated as new cases are reported, catalogues in minute detail cases ranging from the easily dismissed to a handful that continue to perplex even hard-nosed scientists.
Known as OVNIs in French, UFOs have always generated intense interest along with countless conspiracy theories about secretive government cover-ups of findings deemed too sensitive or alarming for public consumption."
Je, pour une, bienvenu notre nouvelle ONVI maitre!
Will code for new sig.
Honestly, if the French government though there were UFOs, they wouldn't bother to cover it up, they would just surrender.
"Si vis pacem para bellum" -Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
Does anyone know the correct link?
Radon360 notes that France has become the first country to open its files on UFOs.
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Because Radon360 is a twat.
May 2006:
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FreedomOfInform
will the database contain a field on whether or not the aliens looked delicious?
Ze truth iz out zere
If you consider UFO to be what it actually means, that it is an object in the sky for which there is no current explanation, then that's fine. Ball Lightening was a 'UFO' till it was explained.
To believe that these unexplained things are extra terrestrials is a huge leap, and one I would tend to scoff at. Not least because the whole 'flying saucer' and 'greys' crap only appeared in the US during the early cold war, with greys not being named till later.
I will never believe that an advanced race can travel all the way across the inconceivable distance between stars, and be dumb enough to crash. Nor that they would travel that far and buzz people on their own, which is all that has supposedly happened.
Not once have they made proper contact and opened a dialogue, or established a visible presence. That's would be like Christopher Columbus landing in America, blowing a rasberry at a native American, jumping back in his ship and heading home without another word. It's just silly.
Most alien visitation theories read like children's stories, and most 'the aliens operated on me' stories read like early memories of visits to a dentist mixed with sexual fantasies.
And yet I do believe that other life exists, to do otherwise is to be a fool, given the size of the universe.
I do not, however, subscribe to the 'aliens are morons who can't steer a ship, and like to cut on us some from time to time' line of thought.
Why do people keep wanting to babble on about this idiocy? I want them to keep quiet about it - if you have to be a UFO-nut, I am certainly not interested in it.
Sheesh, ACC offered my this planet for a nice quiet vacation, but everywhere I see people babbling about UFOs...
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"Comment servir l'homme ?" (How to serve man ?)
is a cooking guide....
Juste loved this old TZ episode
-- a true frog from France ^^
Surprised by the bad translations in the comments, here's a more appropriate one (no, online translation tools are not as good as humans): Je, quant à moi, souhaite la bienvenue à nos nouveaux maîtres OVNIs.
;-)
Additionally, it's not "secoupe volante" pour rather "soucoupe volante" (flying saucer) (see other comment on parent). And if they wanted to be our masters and already made contact, since they would have the technology to reach us, I guess they'd already be our masters. (well, looking at our politicians' behavior, maybe they already are!
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The French are looking to prosecute any UFOs who aren't using open standards for their communications.
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it many cases, it was simply clouds or optical illusions, which are not even flying objects. And then you add all those drunk peoples and the jokers to that list...
Anyway, this base is nothing more than a list of police reports, even it there really was an alien origin in one of those phenomenons, the odds that this base contains anything usefull to prove it is almost nil.
especially you, americans !
you should remember that the freedoms you are enjoying now were put forward in their current forms mostly by french intellectuals in 18th century, matured in this country and then were accepted by your founding fathers and incorporated into your constitution and the consequent revolution. not to mention french aiding you against the british, lafayette and all.
and i dont even need to mention the french revolution, which is the social movement that set the way to the modern civilized society by overthrowing aristocracy not only in france, but in most of europe. it was eventually messed up by a short megalomaniac who is known as napoleon, but eh - revolution still did its thing.
french are ok.
the only problem is that, they hatch on stuff TOO long, only to put the stuff into action in 100-200 year intervals. and then, major things happen. all in the meantime they sleep, ruled by egotistic megalomaniacs.
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Aliens and flying saucers may not exist but anyone who has seen something flying in the sky (bird, airplane or anything else) and cannot identify what it is has seen a UFO. More to the point, many secret "black" aircraft (both projects like the SR71, B2, F117 and U2 that have been revealed already and projects we don't know about) would be considered UFOs to anyone who doesn't know what they are.
All those people who have reported UFO sightings near Area 51 are probably right, they most likely DID see UFOs. Since the prime use of Area 51 is to test secret aircraft in a way that makes sure that no-one finds out about them, most of the air operations out of the base would have appeared as UFOs to anyone except the few people working on whatever top secret project it is.
As to why countries like America have not released their "UFO" files, its more likely to be because said files could contain information about "black" projects (those of the US, those of allied powers and those of enemy powers such as the Russians). Some of those aircraft are still flying (and some may well still be "top secret") and the US probably doesn't want information about aircraft that may still be used now or in the future to be made public.
The files show that between 1949 and 1972, France surrended a total of 122 times to suspected UFO invaders. There was another incident in which they negotiated a collaboration with alien grays, only to find out they were Basque shepards in ultra-lights, the language difficulty causing the misunderstanding.
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I didn't realize that submitting a story made me a "twat".
That's great that you brought the fact that the UK government has released some similar information to the public, long before France had done so. Perhaps the reporter of this article should be labelled a "twat" for not researching the topic further and bringing up that point, or at least not make the bold comment about France being the first.
Which brings up another point. If you ever have submitted a story to Slashdot, you'd recognize that the editors tend to take quite a bit of liberty on rewriting the story summaries (for better or worse). I didn't "note" anything...the summary was just rewritten to say I did.
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For some reason I refuse to use either spell check or the spacebar properly.
You are thinking too human-centric.
Consider the following possibility. . .
Aliens exist in a higher state of reality than we can perceive; that is, they are with us right now, all the time. They function and exist in a state where time does not exist for them in the same way it does for us. That is, the thousands of UFO reports are not of nuts and bolts technology, but of bits of reality poking through into ours.
Second. . . What if these aliens are to us what we are to cows. That they are here to eat us. What if they consume the energy from negative emotions such as fear and pain. This would explain our high population, our constant state of screwed up religion, war and general suffering around the globe. It also explains our media's and our education system's aversion of looking at sciences which would help explain the alien presence. That of being living on the "spirit plane", (so to speak). Of chi and magic in general.
This explanation, as distasteful as it sounds, nonetheless answers all the puzzles presented to us be the short-sighted Carl Sagans of the world. Sci-fi wants us to think in terms of other humans from space. It doesn't look at the idea that aliens are far more intelligent and have no interest in communicating with us beyond manipulation and control.
Look at our cattle industry. --We breed an entire race of animals totally controlled for our consumption. Aliens need to eat too.
As above, so below.
-FL
Negative emotions are certainly tied to behavioral mechanisms, but they nonetheless have an energetic quality. This is not human-centric. It's life-centric. Since aliens are also alive, it's a common denominator which we share with them. Our technology and perceived limits of physical reality are not. The original poster was making a false assumption with regard to this.
And then you go on to complain about how media and schools have an aversion to science while posting gibberish which flies in the face of every even slightly credible scientific worldview.
You only think I'm talking gibberish because you happen to be ignorant. Your concept of a 'credible scientific worldview' is limited by the media you watch and the education you received. Circular logic, I know, however it also happens to be correct.
I could go an and refute every single one of your points in detail, but I bet you are not in it for discussion, judging by your casual dismissal of Carl Sagan.
You could try, but seeing as you still believe in the orthodox explanation of reality, it means you probably don't know how to challenge conventional thinking and thus have little in the arsenal of your mind beyond the regular canned nonsense most sleepers come pre-installed with. For instance. . . Carl Sagan is an astrophysicist. Why do you believe this gives him any authority in the matter of UFOs? What does stellar chemistry and gravity modeling have to do with understanding alien intent?
-FL