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Using Two Monitors Makes You More Productive?

Double Vision asks: "In my job, I work with several software applications at once. I find that constantly switching back and forth wastes a tremendous amount of time and causes me to lose focus. My video card supports two monitors, so I found a discarded monitor in my office and hooked it up. This has made it much easier to do my job. However, we are getting ready to go through an equipment audit, which means I will likely lose my additional monitor unless I can justify keeping it. How can I make this case? Is anyone aware of studies that support my claim that two monitors makes me more productive?"

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  1. Trivial ? by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Monitors are cheap. Dirt cheap compared to the salaries of most people sitting in front of them.



    If you merely spend five additional minutes on work each day that you would have had to spend on shuffling windows around, the investment in an additional monitor will pay for itself within weeks.

    1. Re:Trivial ? by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 4, Interesting

      you wish! the bean counters at most companies will frown on ANY expense for employees, ESPECIALLY if it's for one employee only, since at that point other employees might want it as well.

      The way things are nowadays in terms of hardware I don't see why any developer should be expected to work on less than a dual or quad core workstation, with two 24"/30" lcd monitors, 4 gigs of ram, plenty of sata disk space in raid and ergonomic keyboard, mouse, chair etc. etc. etc. heck, even if they were given a fully loaded dual-quad-core workstation for 10 grand, it'd still be only a fraction of their yearly salary, and would very much positively impact productivity.

      Instead you still see companies giving their employees pentium 4s at 2.5GHz with maybe 1 gig of ram and 80gigs of ide disk, a single 19" (if not 17") 1280x1024 crt and the absolute cheapest keyboards/mice/chair possible (often the mouse doesn't even have a scroll wheel and the chair is the local staples $100 special). Same deal with managers more often than not getting laptops, ergonomic chairs, big monitors, ... when often 'individual contributors' could use all of them more.

      If hospitals were run the same way as computer companies surgeons would operate with box cutters and duct tape, and diagnose with an old x-ray machine, while the hospital managers would have MRI machines in their offices and clip their cigars with surgical grade scalpels...

      Regarding the OP's problem the solution is simple: they should pony up $200 of their own money and buy their own secondary monitor, when the audit comes either they can show the second monitor is theirs or take it home that day and bring it back once the audit is done.

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    2. Re:Trivial ? by Bigboote66 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If monitors are dirt cheap, just buy one yourself and bring it in. You'll have it for the next job where you need a second monitor. I get tired of hearing my peers bitch about how the company is "too cheap" to buy them something they need that would make them so productive. Usually these guys bitching about the company not spending an extra $150 on an external monitor think nothing of buying $400 video cards for their gaming rigs at home. If the cost is trivial, and the productivity gain is so great, just invest in yourself and buy the item. Those huge productivity gains you get can be used to justify your next raise.

      FYI, in my career, I've purchased my own ergonomic office chair, keyboard, mouse, a monitor, and external SCSI drives - all of which I ultimately took with me when I went on to other jobs.

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    3. Re:Trivial ? by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dirt Cheap Programmer: $10/hour
      Cost per standard week: $400
      5% performance increase savings :$20/week
      Time needed to pay for additional monitor: 10-20 weeks.

      More realistic:
      DCP $30/hour (remember taxes!)
      CpSW: $1200
      5% increase: $60/week
      Payback: 3-5 weeks.

      easy justification.

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    4. Re:Trivial ? by Maltheus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Short term? Like what, a day's worth? I recently calculated how much time I spend watching my screen paint and for application servers to restart cause the huge ass telecom company I work for won't invest in new hardware. Multiplying that amount of time by my salary means that a new computer would pay for itself in a month. Not to mention all the time we spend with "clever" little scripts to offload data from an overworked 5 gig production drive cause they don't want to spring the lousy $150 for a new 500 gig drive so that we'll never have to worry about space again. I can't even begin to calculate how many millions we lose in lost productivity each year just because management lacks the ability to engage in short-term thinking, much less the mid or long term.

      My home server services one person, me. It's not all that high end, but it blows the equipment we use at work out of the water and that stuff is servicing millions. The Sun workstation they expect me to use goes for $20 on eBay (sans/monitor), but they still want new applications delivered in a week. I've given up expecting any of this to change. I'm just so tired of making these arguments and seeing people shrug their shoulders. I wish that guy good luck in his quest for a second monitor. For me, if I want a decent working environment, I have to pay for it myself.

    5. Re:Trivial ? by sherms · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This has always been a fear of mine. I've worked for the government sector and private. Whats interesting is the government sector let me have 3 monitors were the private sector I've been reduced to a 15" lcd Most here are 15"-17" crt. I tried explaining the cost in electricity as well as productivity, but no luck. Has government and cooperations reversed in there roles???

    6. Re:Trivial ? by couchslug · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Regarding the OP's problem the solution is simple: they should pony up $200 of their own money and buy their own secondary monitor, when the audit comes either they can show the second monitor is theirs or take it home that day and bring it back once the audit is done."

      I brought my own ergo keyboard, trackball, and scanner/printer (the shop buys the ink cartridges and paper). My comfort can convenience are well worth it. All are well-marked as personal property.

      Auto mechanics customarily supply most of the own tools, because that setup is an optimal "fit" for them and gives them the power user choices they want.Compared to that, springing for a few computer bits is dirt cheap. They are even tax deductable as professional equipment, as are your home computer and peripherals if you use them for business.

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    7. Re:Trivial ? by f1055man · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Soviet system wasn't really centrally-administered either. The economy was controlled by the haggling and political struggles of the party bosses.
      Soviet propaganda: to each according to their needs.
      Capitalist propaganda: to each according to their ability.
      Reality: it's who you know.
      See: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/23/ 224254 and http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=1B5 9C157-136A-4C1F-8F96-67847B42932E

      As we move away from an economy based on commodities towards one dominated by the service industries, market forces will mean less and less. Where's Patrick Swayze when you need him? http://imdb.com/title/tt0087985/
      What's this have to do with using two monitors?

  2. In my experience... by FredDC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At my previous job I was also using 2 monitors, which definitely made me more productive as I could more easily compare information on different screens.

    At my current job I only have 1 monitor and it took me a while to get used to it again. I would ask for a second screen but I already know the answer... "No, because otherwise everyone would want a second screen."

    While on my departement, everyone would be better of with having a second screen, the average amount of windows open at the same time is at least 10. It would definitely increase productivity but explaining this to management who at most have their e-mail and text processor open is a lost cause I fear. Well, at least at home I have 2 screens to enjoy.

    Also, on a related note, I found synergy to be an amazing tool when using multiple computers at the same time. It allows you to share the same mouse and keyboard between multiple computers by sending the signal over the network and it behaves just as if you had multiple screens on 1 computer (move between screens by going to the side of the screen). I haven't used it for a while though because I didn't have to work on multiple computers at the same time. But if you are, definitely check it out!

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    1. Re:In my experience... by jbrannon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also, on a related note, I found synergy to be an amazing tool when using multiple computers at the same time. It allows you to share the same mouse and keyboard between multiple computers by sending the signal over the network and it behaves just as if you had multiple screens on 1 computer (move between screens by going to the side of the screen). I haven't used it for a while though because I didn't have to work on multiple computers at the same time. But if you are, definitely check it out!
      Amen! I'm currently working on-campus at my college's computer science lab, and I was asked to "see if we want Vista" (that's a whole other topic - not even going to touch that) when they get new boxes this summer. So, they built me a "Vista" box (riiight - 2.4GHz P4, *512MB* RAM, onboard video). I put it right next to my normal work box (WinXPPro) and run synergy on both. Makes life a lot easier - when I want to kill myself, I just move the mouse back onto the XP computer. Then I'm just depressed, not suicidal. ;-)
    2. Re:In my experience... by eln · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used to use Synergy, and it worked really well. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with our VPN. At work, I have a Linux box and a Windows box. The Linux box is constantly VPN'd into the server network, which is not normally reachable from the internal office network.

      The Windows box is a laptop, and the Linux box is a desktop. I have a second monitor hooked up to the laptop, so I effectively have 3 displays (laptop builtin display, extra monitor for laptop, and monitor for desktop). This way, I have plenty of screen real estate.

      To solve the VPN issue, I had to switch to x2vnc. It works just fine over the VPN. The only disadvantage is that it lags significantly when the Windows box gets busy (like during a virus scan). Luckily, the keyboard and mouse are physically connected to the Linux box, so I can still use the box I do most of my actual work on while the Windows box calms down.

  3. Works for me by jamesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I spend a reasonable amount of time in RDP (Remote Desktop) sessions to clients MS Windows servers. Things are better these days but a few years ago we had a lot of customers on fairly slow connections, and RDP, being the wonderful protocol it is, wants to redraw whenever you bring it to the front.

    So I would connect, log in, then wait for a a minute or two for the screen to draw (remember, I am normally connecting in to solve a problem, so performance is often much worse than normal!) then slowly try and figure out what is going on.

    What made it horribly sucky was that I couldn't minimize the RDP window while it did it's thing, otherwise it would just start to redraw again. With a second screen I could just put the RDP session there and let it do its thing!

    Just recently I have been porting an older C++ application to C#. I have the source code for each application on each screen, way faster than trying to flip between them on a single screen.

    The nice thing is, this works so well _because_ they are two separate screens. Having one screen that was twice as wide just wouldn't be the same (unless it functioned as two screens of course :)

    My setup is my 15" laptop display and a 17" CRT, both running 1024x768 resolution. I'm almost thinking I should track down a USB VGA adapter and run a 3rd screen. Performance might suck (being USB instead of PCI) but i wouldn't be doing anything on that display where that was an issue.

    Hmmm... here's a more interesting question. At what number of screens does productivity start to drop? I guess the answer will depend on what tasks you are doing but it would sure make an interesting study... I'm imagining 3 screens across and 2 screens high as a starting point :)

  4. Re:Did the same thing.. by acidrain69 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had the same thing. I took a spare CRT, and my boss at the time really liked the setup, so he got me matching 17" LCD's. One of my coworkers also got matching 17's. My old boss now has 4 monitors, 2 19" LCD's, a 17", and a widescreen 24. He only really does work on 2 of them, the 17 is for viewing our internal help desk website for new tickets, and the widescreen is for our camera DVR system. My new boss now has a 19" LCD to connect to his laptop, and we are talking about pushing 2 monitors down to some of the regular non-IT employees in certain positions where they would benefit.

    It's nice to work in an environment where people recognize potential productivity increase when they see it. 17" LCDs are cheap now. Easily $150 or less. A spare video card or a dual vid card can be cheap, I spent $35 on the one I use at work.

    If you job complains about spending $150 on a long term investment in your productivity, then you should start looking for a new job. Of course, people are giving away CRTs all the time, you could always offer to bring one in. Check freecycle.

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  5. Programming typography by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I actually had your post down as interesting rather than funny, but in any case, I doubt it will ever happen.

    As anyone involved with typography and graphic design can tell you, the length of text lines that humans can read comfortably is pretty short. Guidelines vary, some based around numbers of alphabets set at a typical reading size, some more formally expressed in terms of angles through which the eyes move. The end results are fairly consistent, though: on a modern 19" monitor, with a full-screen window open, at a typical resolution of say 1280x960, and with the user sitting at a typical distance from the screen, the text is already far too wide for most people to read it optimally.

    Now, programmers perhaps suffer less from this than those working with ordinary text documents, because most programming languages use some form of indentation to represent things like block structure. Thus the lines within any given block -- those which the programmer will most likely want to read over in sequence -- tend to be shorter. Even so, it's also undesirable to nest too deeply in most programming languages, which limits the effect of this style. So, while old guidelines about 80 character line lengths are rare these days, restricting individual lines to 80 characters between their first and last visible text probably isn't a bad idea.

    In other words, I don't think most programmers will ever write lines much longer than they do today, no matter how big monitors get. It will simply be uncomfortable to read them, and therefore they will adopt a different style where lines are broken at natural places, just as mathematicians have long done when typesetting equations.

    And yes, this does all have implications for window managers, particularly as widescreen monitors seem to be becoming more popular on both desktops and laptops. I'm slightly surprised that the mainstream hasn't yet given up on the idea of maximising a window to the full screen, and provided some concept of zones, so you can lock a window to fill exactly the left or right half of your monitor, say. Such a viewable area is far more useful on the sort of physical sizes and resolutions that are seen for high-end screens today, for everything from web browsing to editing documents, and even for code on the wider screens.

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  6. Re:Here's a study by bwalling · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Two is better than one. No questions asked. Tiling windows sucks. With two monitors, your windows will automatically maximize to a single monitor, making it quite easy to get full screen apps on both screens at once. I've tried the large monitor thing, and you spend more time fooling around with window placement. With two monitors, much of that ends up being handled for you. I'm actually at the point where I'm ready for a 3rd monitor, I'm just afraid to ask for it - I figure it will become a spectacle.

  7. Re:Hidden ? Obvious. by sarahbau · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's the boss going to say? I can't use my own equipment? Probably. Most companies I've worked with don't like people bringing in their own stuff, at least not electronic or computer equipment. My first job was in an art department, since I was new, and only 18, they put me on the oldest computer - a Macintosh Quadra 700 (which used a 25MHz 68040). The computer was ridiculously slow, and I was using something more than 10 times faster at home. I asked my boss if I could bring in my old computer since it was still several times faster than the Quadra, but he wouldn't let me. It didn't matter that I would be more productive.
  8. Re:Just tell them by David+Nabbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why stop at 4? How about 13? Or 18? Or 21?

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  9. And three are even better by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use a Matrox Parhelia at work and Matrox's TripleHead2Go at home for Triplehead. Right now I'm using 3072x768, using one new and two secondhand Dell/BenQ 15" LCD panels. At work it's 3840x1024, using one LCD panel and two old CRTs.

    Contrary to what many others have said, I find that one of the major benefits of Matrox's triplehead implementation is that as far as Windows is concerned it's one screen. This not only provides maximum compatibility with software not properly written to cope with multihead, but it means I can easily grab the entire three screens for, say, a wide Excel spreadsheet, Photoshop, or some complicated bit of code. Matrox do provide software to make the single desktop behave like three screens for the purposes of maximising windows, but I have that turned off.

  10. Re:Here's a study by toddestan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The 17" and 20" widescreen combination does work fairly well, but I must point out that 1280x1024 isn't really a standard format. It's actually a wierd 5:4 aspect ratio, and the only place I have ever seen a 5:4 aspect ratio is with 1280x1024 screens. 1280x1024 should really be 1280x960, which is a proper 4:3 ratio, and is the resolution CRTs should be set at so the image is not stretched.