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Web Scanning Technology for Copyright Violations

eldavojohn writes "I've heard a lot of talk about software being used to detect pirated media anywhere on the web, but haven't seen a lot of details. PhysOrg has a good article on one of the tools out there. Automatic Copyright Infringement Detection (ACID) boasts a patented technology dubbed 'meaning-based computing' that is reportedly capable of finding relationships among 1,000 different types of files. The important thing is that this is not tagging-based searching. 'Autonomy's search technology uses automatic hyperlinking and link clustering that the company claims isn't built into keyword search engines. According to the company, this technology allows computers to perform searches with greater context, so it finds a wider range of related documents or research citations than is possible from keyword searches.' For more details on how this magic works, check out Autonomy's patent and the many patents by its subdivision, Virage."

54 comments

  1. Encryption? by Phil+Karn · · Score: 1

    And how well does this work if people encrypt their files and send the keys separately?

    1. Re:Encryption? by updog · · Score: 2, Informative
      And, torrents and newsgroups?

      It really seems to be targeting your typical TV episode uploaded to YouTube...

    2. Re:Encryption? by Dunbal · · Score: 0

      And how well does this work if people encrypt their files and send the keys separately?

            Or take a large file and break it into smaller files. Or reverse the file... or ...

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    3. Re:Encryption? by cyrtainne · · Score: 0

      I don't think there is a way to find out real IP addresses. There's no way to know for sure with masquerading and secure connections and proxies and all. Or what about war driving? I mean, find an open wifi network and download movies and music from your laptop, then who gets in trouble? And yeah, send the usb key via the Postal Service or FedEx. It sounds like they mean well and all, but this is the real world; it just won't work.

  2. Thank God for Darknets... by MostAwesomeDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This technology sounds like it's stuck behind the buzzword "meaning-based media," which seems to just be an abstract notion of finding and sorting media without profiling, hashing, fingerprinting, tagging, watermarking, sourcing, or naming (in other words, by going on bullshit notions and intuition. "Oh, it looks copyrighted.")

    More importantly, it looks like it can't do anything unless the target is somewhere on the Web and is reasonably active. The darknets and private trackers are still safe.

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    1. Re:Thank God for Darknets... by donaldm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The actual patent reads like a maths paper with lots of buzzwords. Sorry I try not to to read too much of the patent since the Legal Jargon actually gives me a headache. Maybe that is intentional for all patents. What annoys me is this patent is not really an invention since it defines how their software does something which is not even physical. I suppose the physical aspect occurs when someone is taken to court.

      Please note I am against software patents in general although I am not against closed source or copyright and trademarks although these can also be a "can of worms". As far as I am concerned this should never be granted as a patent since it is another thing that takes away freedom in programming or even the basic human thinking process. Still if you have money and Patent lawyers on retention I suppose you could patent anything like http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P TO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2F srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGN R.&OS=DN/20040230959&RS=DN/20040230959

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    2. Re:Thank God for Darknets... by P3NIS_CLEAVER · · Score: 3, Interesting

      These jokers were trying to get us to sell their desktop search engine to our clients about 5 years ago. IMO they were pretty overstuffed and FOS. (how is that for buzzwords)
      I am surprised they survived the internet bubble (or lack of)

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  3. Like a patent means anything by jhfry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, they have a patent, and if they actually implement what's in the patent it's meaningful to look at... but more often than not, the patent is much broader than the actual application, or the patent isn't even being used.

    If I looked at patents to determine what a business was capable of, I would be driving a car that gets 100's of miles to the gallon!

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    1. Re:Like a patent means anything by ADRenalyn · · Score: 1

      Patents mean everything to an investor looking to dump funds into a startup company. If the company has a couple of patents that make it harder for the competition to come in and steal their idea, they are more likely to receive capital.

  4. AI by alphamugwump · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find it ironic how stuff like this ends up being the among the more practical applications for AI. I mean, science fiction is usually about robots taking over. Instead, we end up with an internet full of bots trying to sell viagra, bots trying to block viagra, bots trying to break captchas, bots trying to detect copyright infringement, p2p systems to insure privacy, and so on.

    I don't think this sort of searching for pirated content is going to be terribly effective, though. I mean, it might be able to catch the blatant stuff like youtube, but ultimately, they're never going to kill p2p, especially once private trackers become more common.

    1. Re:AI by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Instead, we end up with an internet full of bots trying to sell viagra, bots trying to block viagra, bots trying to break captchas, bots trying to detect copyright infringement, p2p systems to insure privacy, and so on.

            And you wonder why eventually all these bots get fed up and try to wipe out the human race?

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    2. Re:AI by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      Oh, they'd keep us around. It's pretty hard to sell porn to dead people.

      Of course, they might start selling porn to each other. That's when we'd be really screwed. Imagine spending half your time as image-recognition hardware, and the other half making crappy porn movies.

      Yeah, sounds like a pretty dark future to me.

    3. Re:AI by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Of course, they might start selling porn to each other.

            Surely even bots aren't dumb enough to PAY for porn ;)

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    4. Re:AI by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Which is why the bots will never let alt.binaries die out completely.

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  5. tired - flamebait/interesting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't it be nice if we could consider factors of weight, proportion and intent with a more case by case methodology. All this nailing everything down attitude is tiresome. I miss the 80s and early 90s live and let live freedom. People need to grow a sense of humor and realize what the internet is; THE global corral of info - get on...

  6. Fully buzzword compliant by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    All those buzzwords. Apparently somebody has a system that can characterize and match images and video. That's reasonable enough, it's been done before, and the question is how good the new one is. The article gives zero help in that direction.

    From the same source: "Nanogenerator provides continuous power by harvesting energy from the environment". It's a variation on the piezoelectric generator concept, like a piezo fire starter.

  7. IP Freely? by dotslashdot · · Score: 1

    Sure, but did they Trademark the Patent that looks for Copyright by IP Freely? (apologies to Bart Simpson).

    1. Re:IP Freely? by aproposofwhat · · Score: 1
      IP Freely?

      Surely, if he lives up to his name and believes in the freedom of IP, he wouldn't enforce his copyright?

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  8. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to complain about the article too much, but is there anyone out there who didn't find it completely contradictory and useless?

    As far as I can tell, the article starts off by saying that they have a wonderful system to inspect and compare the video content of a clip against a HUGE database (eg. tens of thousands of hours of copyrighted movies, TV series, music). And, that they know how to read _any_ media format (eg. an AVI using some particular codec embedded into a Word document which is zipped....) The suggestion is that the software could "read" a Youtube video clip, and recognize that it contains a few minutes of a Jay Leno monologue. Needless to say, they don't explain how they might possibly do this - because, as far as I can tell, they can't. Not even close.

    If you look at the patents, they're pretty much all about text or metadata searching. For example, they seem to have found an innovative way to find keywords to categorize a document....by scanning for words in the document! Or of categorizing a video file...by looking at metadata (eg. comments) embedded in the file. The only amazing thing about these algorithms is that some dimbulb in the patent office decided to give them a 20 year monopoly on something people have been doing for decades.

    1. Re:Huh? by zappepcs · · Score: 1

      Exactly! None of this is new as far as I can figure out.
      If it was truly an innovation or AI, it would scan the video/audio clips and recognize Jay Lenno's voice and have that trigger a flag for infringement. Unfortunately I don't think that they have managed to catalog a database of copyrighted works based on such things.

      With any luck at all, the **AA will spend billions on this patented claptrap only to find out 2 years from now that there is no way to make it work without landing themselves in even deeper shit with consumers.

  9. Hold on, my company has a patent on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did their software detect the patent that it is infringing upon? Bastards!

  10. It's a hopeless pursuit by heretic108 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Back in the early days of cars, most folks thought the red flag act was entirely justified.

    Sorry, but we've hit a new age of abundance. With the overwhelming percentage of internet users using LimeWire, BitTorrent etc, attempts to sustain a manufactured scarcity in the face of this abundance will similarly fade away into obsolescence.

    The copyright enforcement versus piracy arms race will make for interesting history courses in future decades. I can see the courses now - "The Rise And Fall Of Intellectual Property".

    I'm looking forward to blowing my grandkids' minds when I tell them about the era when information wasn't free.

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    1. Re:It's a hopeless pursuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seen another way, the IP advocates are pessimists. They are the bears in market who think everything has peaked,
      that there is a shortage of good new ideas so they must conserve and constrain the ideas that exist. They fear abundance
      becuase their profits depend on an absence of it. The more bullish optimists in the world laugh at IP because they know nothing
      is new under the sun, that there will always be brilliant thinkers changing the world with astonishing new ideas,
      regardless of whether they are paid by a corporate patents reward system or not. The first myth to fall will be that
      progress depends on protectionism and the next important milestone in human development is the dismantlement of the
      patent system.

      I'm sure it will be long and bloody battle, but I agree, it is inevitable that intellectual property will
      fail as a concept in the long term. Nobody thought a war could start over tea did they? Maybe its possible
      that a real war could start over intellectual property. The optimist in me imagines a day when those that talk about
      owning ideas are shunned in the same way as those who deny the holocaust.

      Once we finally get past this point, once we "get over ourselves", human development will mushroom. We will see huge leaps
      forward in so many areas, because the whole concept of IP is actually anti-progressive.

      And while I sit here, working on originial ideas, writing new code to give away to the world for free, I expect I
      will be insulted by the same smug, tired old arguments from people who have never had an original idea in their
      life that "inventors need protecting" and "if there was no IP there would be no incentive to create".

      The only question I have is this: How long can people fool themselves by clinging to these 20th century ideas?

    2. Re:It's a hopeless pursuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe its possible that a real war could start over intellectual property? Well, it's certainly been used as an excuse for war in the past - thousands of Irish people are reported to have diedin the fight started over the first copyright law (though there were clan rivalries simmering just below the surface, hence my use of "excuse"). FWIW, the anti-copyright side won.

      http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/ASaints/Colu mcille.html
    3. Re:It's a hopeless pursuit by Catiline · · Score: 1

      The only question I have is this: How long can people fool themselves by clinging to these 20th century ideas?
      I don't know... how long will people fool themselves with belief in Intelligent Design theory, ghosts, ESP, "flat earth", geocentrism, the healing power of crystals/magnets, bad luck from black cats, or profitable chain letters/pyramid schemes?
    4. Re:It's a hopeless pursuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Tell you what. When a work costs nothing to create (not reproduce, produce), then one can be legitimately righteous about asking others to give it away for free.

      You say that you'll be "writing new code and giving away to the world." That's your choice and I'm glad it works for you. I assume that you some source of income that permits you to obtain the tools necessary to do the this. For some of us, the income that we get from selling and/or licensing our works is the difference between a profession, a hobby or a waste of time.

  11. Hey, at least it's patented! by Darkforge · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, that means no one will be foolish enough to pay to use it.

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  12. Copyright and cryptosystems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copyright is kinda like a cryptosystem, where the copyrighted piece of content is the key. Only one person can hold copyright to a given key, and the key makes the keyspace around it derivative work space, where new creations need the permission from the copyright holders of each derivative space that the new key belongs to.

    A copy key gives the copyright holder the privilege to deny anyone else the use of that key and the derivative space around it. Derivative works include works that include a copyrighted work in it. In mathematical terms, a derivative work is a work that can be said to have the copyrighted work as one of its elements. Hence there exists a minimum set of copyrightable content, that give full coverage over the derivative space, i.e. every work not in the minimum set is either in the public domain, not copyrightable, or a derivative work of a minimum set element.

    You can copyright digital information. The set of digital information is enumerable, so the minimum set for digital information is also enumerable. Since compressed works are copyrightable, you can copyright the combination of a decompresser and compressed information. This makes is feasible to mount a minimum set attack against a mode of creation.

    Write a decompresser that creates copyrightable works that belong to the minimum set of the mode of creation under attack. The uncompressed works must be unique for each number (compressed information) that is smaller than the size of the minimum set. Now, create a file with all numbers from zero to minimum set size - 1. Or even better, create a file with just the minimum set size and have an another decompresser that creates the file with all numbers up to it. On completion of these two decompressers and the file with the minimum set size, every work of the mode of creation after that time is a derivative work of your minimum set.

    Since you need to extract a certain work from the minimum set to prove copyright infringement, you also require a compressor for the mode of creation. The compressor works like a digitalizer, you quantize the information in the infringing work so that it maps to the closest pattern in the minimum set. Then use that number to fetch the corresponding work from the copyrighted minimum set.

    You may use this information to create your own minimum sets under the condition that you release each minimum set under the GPL.

  13. No better than a dowsing rod by Black+Art · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems every week some company comes up with a way to detect copyright violations or terrorists or naughty pictures or some other buzzworthy topic that will get them paid suitcases full of money.

    Until I see some sort of evidence that they can do it, I rank the claims along with those who claim that they can tell what people are thinking by where they scratch.

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    1. Re:No better than a dowsing rod by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      Automatic Copyright Infringement Detection (ACID) boasts a patented technology

      ACID best decribes what these people are on when they go out doing this kind of crap. It's technically unfeasable. We've seen that all they really do is keyword search in filenames, even though several groups have claimed to do more. Name the files differently and for the most part you'll fly under the radar.

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    2. Re:No better than a dowsing rod by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      ACID ... programmed by a team of crack developers.

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  14. Won't work by ameyer17 · · Score: 1

    None of their previous ventures into web spidering's worked very well. It's likely all that will be needed to create a false negative in this case is a little name obfuscation, and there will be an unacceptable rate of false positives...

    1. Re:Won't work by PiEpster · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, their technology works exceptionally well, provided you use it in the way it is meant to be used. To use Autonomy for internet spidering is obviously not one of those ways, since its 'meaning-based computing' (read: pattern-recognition) algorithms will turn up text on cats when you were searching for 'dogs' (since they are related terms). People are so used to Google's keyword search that this confuses them utterly.

      However, in a corporate intranet environment, this could be VERY useful for 'knowledge workers' like those working in R&D departments. I've managed an Autonomy system for a large multinational and they were using it for search on their internet and intranet sites. The average internet John Doe was complaining like hell, while the employees in R&D and similar functions were loving it.

      In this case, using it for detecting copyright infringement could actually work, since the pattern-recognition abilities of Autonomy are in fact very good.

    2. Re:Won't work by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 1

      a little name obfuscation
      I h4v3 n0 1d34 wh4t u r ta7k1|\|6 ab0ut, but d0 u w4nt 2 c 8r1tn3yz pu55y?
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  15. Difficult if not Impossible! by ranga_the_don · · Score: 0, Insightful

    This kind of detection is difficult if not impossible, as others posed, what if the copy is encrypted? or what if it is altered to make it difficult to find even using complex Image Processing algorithms? these algorithms may fail to detect it as a copy even if it has something like a 10% shift in hue or saturation, same can happen with video, will this system detect if i copy a video and change the color tones from full color to sepia?

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  16. What is mine, isn't yours. by geoff+lane · · Score: 1

    So how does it determine the direction in which the copying took place?

  17. Standard Machine Learning... by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you look at the patents, they're pretty much all about text or metadata searching.
    Indeed, yes. Furthermore, they seem to be a simple list of standard machine learning (text categorization/information retrieval) methods. I won't bother to go through the entire patent, it is mind-numbingly boring, but here are some details for the beginning of it: (I refer to the claim #'s)
    • 1,2: This is the standard TFIDF method. TF means 'text frequency', you give each word a weight equal to its frequency in the document. IDF means 'inverse document frequency', if a word is rare, you give it more weight. Typically this is done with the logarithm, btw.
    • 4,5,6: This is extremely general. But it sounds like any of a myriad of methods to generate 'higher-order-features'. For example, by using a nonlinear kernel function.
    • 7&9: Sounds like a way to measure the importance of a feature. Many such methods are already in use, for example, mutual information (MI).
    • 8: In other words, a 'stoplist'. Nice way to make it sound really complicated and useful, though.
    Skimming the rest of the patent, I don't see much substance. But I admit I didn't go through all of it. Perhaps someone else will have more patience.
    1. Re:Standard Machine Learning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disclaimer: I work for Autonomy ( and worked for Google too)

      Yes, you describe correctly the technology. And it works exactly like in the patent, even that it's complicated described in the patent legalese. The TFIDF you describe is an application of Bayes theorems of probability. They are terrible efficient.

      Once you have enough data, you can categorize any content, and Virage is quite cool extracting text from an audio/video file. As some one has said, it _can_ recognize a Jay Leno video once you indexed enough Jay Leno videos.

      Feel free to check (skip the usual marketing stuff) the http://autonomy.com/ website.

    2. Re:Standard Machine Learning... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, but how much bandwidth is this thing going to consume spidering the Web downloading videos looking for infringement? Are sites like Youtube going to permit it? How about all the stuff it's going to download that doesn't infringe anyone's IP? By simply scanning the Internet this way, they are using other people's resources in their quest to nail copyright infringers. The Googlebot does much the same thing, of course, but most of us don't mind Google hitting our servers periodically because we all derive considerable benefit from being indexed. There's no advantage to anyone but the big rightsholders to this dubious technology, and I'll take odds that any Web spider these guys implement won't respect the robots exclusion protocol either.

      Not that the media outfits mind taking what isn't theirs: they're hypocrites in a big way.

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  18. It doesn't by blorg · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...just like it doesn't catch you burning a CD and giving it to your friend physically. Or the Scouts singing "Happy Birthday."

    However it may well do what it is designed to do, finding copyright infringement on the web. Autonomy are a serious company working on pattern recognition, not some fly-by-night cowboys. This copyright-finding thing would just be a side application of their core technology.

    1. Re:It doesn't by Elektroschock · · Score: 1

      Okay, but you won't let a bot onto your site, hmm? Could be real fun to make honeypots for that autonomy bot. --- Autonomy are a serious company working on pattern recognition, not some fly-by-night cowboys. Serious companies don't patent software or at least are not proud of it.

  19. what's their IP range so I can block it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not another bot sucking down my bandwidth at my expense! :-(

  20. Finding reverse plagiarism by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Publishers using this tool will presume that any found copies are infringing examples of copyright violation. But what happens when a work "created" and copyrighted in 2006 turns out to be "infringed" by something created in 2000? If the pubisher's "original" copyrighted work turns out to not be so original after all, then things could get sticky. I wonder how many cases of plagiarism will be uncovered in which the publisher/copyright holder becomes the defendant.

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  21. "Meaninig-based computing" by Venik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whenever I see words "intelligence", "meaning", or "understanding" used to describe software, that's how I know it's a bunch of baloney.

  22. I have a program that detects plagairism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's called Google.

    -mcgrew

  23. robots.txt? by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

    It claims to follow hyperlinks. Does it obey robots.txt on the destination site? I sense possible legal disputes.

  24. Let me see if I get it... by real+gumby · · Score: 1

    Err, so "meaning-based media" means it maintains "ACID semantics..."?

  25. Serious companies don't patent software? by blorg · · Score: 1

    I guess you don't consider Google, IBM, Apple or Microsoft to be serious companies then.

    Interesting tidbit though - this Autonomy patent is a US one, they wouldn't get a patent on this in their own home country of the UK, where software patents are (currently) not allowed.

  26. No provision for quotation or other fair use by adminstring · · Score: 0

    from TFA:

    "it can detect whether a portion of a copyrighted video or audio tract has been overlaid or stored as part of a new and original media file. "

    This means if your feature-length documentary has a bit of perfectly legal ad footage in it, it will be flagged. Hopefully media distribution companies like YouTube won't rely on this technology exclusively, or there will be a lot of false positives.

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  27. Autonomy by BigBadBus · · Score: 1

    I used to work for Autonomy. They were a bunch of shits. Heres an article
    they didn't like very much:

    Life in the Autonomy sweatshop
    Or:
    Stress Is More Fun

    Following a successful interview at Autonomy Headquarters in Cambridge
    on March 24th, I was offered employment and agreed to start work on
    May 22nd. Despite this being a huge upheaval involving a large outlay
    of money (since no relocation fee was offered), I decided to make the
    move from Woking to the Cambridge area.

    At first, everything went well, and I was impressed by the company:
    free lunches on Friday, TV during the 2006 England World Cup matches,
    and even occasion social events (the Cambridge beer festival and
    go-karting). But soon, the facade began to shatter and Autonomy
    revealed itself as a company focussed on money and power. Visitors to
    the company are insulated from this cut-throat attitude by the fun of
    seeing red-bellied piranhas in the reception, and having board rooms
    named after James Bond villains. The induction process consisted of
    "Sign this contract, give us your bank details, heres your desk, here
    are your co-workers, here is your staff handbook (about 12 pages), and
    the sandwich van is up the road." About ten minutes in total: no
    mention of quality, IT policy etc.

    My first job was to devour the documentation concerning the company's
    Virage product (a video archive and logging system) to write DLL
    plug-ins to facilitate a company's video and audio analysis. This
    involved reading through massive Software Development Kit documents,
    and trying some of the sample plug-ins (bluescreen detection, for
    instance). Everything was fine apart from the so-called IT Support: it
    took days to get my email sorted out, and weeks to get my Windows XP
    workstation activated.

    Sat next to me was Pieter, a Dutch (?) developer, whose voice was so
    quiet I couldn't discern it over the noise of the fans and general din
    in the office. Whenever I asked him for help, I passed him the
    keyboard and asked him to type in the relevant stuff. He seemed to be
    doing work on voice recognition, on the SoftCell system.

    My manager was Abigail Betley, of whom more later.

    My first job was write a plug-in that could detect and indentify
    logos, or on-screen idents shown during a TV programme's broadcast. I
    quickly identified many technical papers, and a simple method that
    would isolate a non-animated logo from the rest of the screen. I tried
    out this method and it worked fine. At this point, Abigail (Abby) went
    on holiday for about 5 days or so, leaving me to doing some more work
    (including coming up with Software Requirements, which to this day I
    never received any feedback about). The only sore point was Abby's
    colleague, Unai Ayo, a Spanish national, who phoned me up the day
    before Abby was due back asking if "I had anything" and "whether logos
    were correctly identified". Now, this was about a week and a half
    AFTER I joined. Those of you who have done any research into Logo
    Detection know that it is technically very complicated; indeed, one
    scientific paper related how a Neural Net had been used (with about
    89% accuracy) - and here I was 10 days after joining the company and
    this major technical problem was expected to be sorted out.

    Alarm bells started ringing here.

    Anyway, Abby came back and I was temporarily told to park the Logo
    Detector (so that it could be handed over to the Neurodynamics team
    downstairs, who had experience in image identification - car number
    plates etc.). I was starting to get concerned as it looked like "my"

    1. Re:Autonomy by moldor · · Score: 1

      I had a similar experience (the bullying without the money) from a University (a CATHOLIC one) here in Australia.

      Should your former employer ever attempt to persuade you to remove the article again, PM me and I'll host it for you.

      Jon