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Uncle Sam Earns C-minus Grade for PC Security

An anonymous reader writes "Twenty-four federal departments and agencies earned a collective grade of C-minus last year for their performance in meeting computer and network security requirements, according to marks handed out by a key congressional oversight committee today. The government-wide grade is up slightly from the 2005, when it earned an overall grade of D+. Eight agencies earned A grades, while as many warranted failing marks. '..the Department of Defense led a group of eight agencies that received failing marks for computer security. Also receiving that dubious distinction were the departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Interior, State and Treasury, as well as the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The Department of Homeland Security earned a D, although its overall performance improved since 2005. The Department of Veterans Affairs did not provide enough data to earn a grade. In 2005, it received an F.'"

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  1. But it was a strong improving "F" by Danathar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard on the radio that some gov spokesperson for DOD said

    But it's a strong improving "F" ...LOL

    I don't recall that ever working with mom "But Mom...it's an improved F over the last F I got"

  2. Also take into account.. by priestx · · Score: 2, Informative

    The infrastructure to the DoD's system extends far beyond it's headquarters.

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  3. of course D of VA didn't provide data by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They didn't have any data, since all of it was stolen last year! DOH!

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  4. If it were only so simple by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Letter grades and color coded terror levels.

    I like how they think they have to kindergarten-up government to teach it to the people.

    I've worked on a few different government 'nets. It's always just a little bit more complicated than that.

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    1. Re:If it were only so simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Naw, I work with the government too and most of the problems really are quite simple (or at least no more complicated than most). It's all the paperwork and bureaucracy that makes it complicated. Oh sure, we COULD just go to the store and buy the thing, but instead we'll fill out form 361-B in triplicate, ensuring one is in English, one is in French and the other is in some language only three people in the world can speak (meaning you'll have to get approval and fill out more paperwork to fly them in to finish that section the form) and then wait 4-6 months for the document and its approval to weave it's way through the maze of middle management. Oh well, at least it keeps me and many other workers employed.

    2. Re:If it were only so simple by cyphercell · · Score: 4, Funny

      For god's sake will someone quit giving that one asshole gold stars?

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    3. Re:If it were only so simple by feepness · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Naw, I work with the government too and most of the problems really are quite simple (or at least no more complicated than most). It's all the paperwork and bureaucracy that makes it complicated. Oh sure, we COULD just go to the store and buy the thing, but instead we'll fill out form 361-B in triplicate, ensuring one is in English, one is in French and the other is in some language only three people in the world can speak (meaning you'll have to get approval and fill out more paperwork to fly them in to finish that section the form) and then wait 4-6 months for the document and its approval to weave it's way through the maze of middle management. Oh well, at least it keeps me and many other workers employed.

      Because if you don't go through that process... well... then you've got some "no-bid contract" designed to fill the coffers of evil corporations.

    4. Re:If it were only so simple by thealsir · · Score: 2

      A lot of who provide many of the things we use.

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  5. they're good at sharing by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Twenty-four federal departments and agencies earned a collective grade of C-minus last year for their performance in meeting computer and network security requirements

    It sounds like their security is more "social" than they'd like!

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  6. left behind by simonharvey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Twenty-four federal departments and agencies earned a collective grade of C-minus last year for their performance in meeting computer and network security requirements.
    and even that was due to the 'no child left behind' educational policies of GWB.


    Sad, very sad.

  7. heh by AdebisiTheGamer · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The Department of Homeland Security earned a D" Irony?

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  8. Government to use Full Disk Encryption on computer by stonebeat.org · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is why there is a 90-day project currently in progress to select a Full Disk Encryption suites for all government owned computers. A Request for Quotation (RFQ) has already gone out on the April 12, 2007. See http://www.herbb.hanscom.af.mil/download.asp?rfp=R 1450&FileName=NOTICE_OF_AVAILABILITY_OF_A_SOLICITA TION_2.doc

  9. Hacking the grades by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eight agencies earned A grades At least now we know which agencies are capable of hacking into the system to change their grades:

    1) Central Intelligence Agency
    2) National Security Agency
    3) Office of Naval Intelligence
    4) National Reconnaissance Office
    5) Defense Intelligence Agency
    6) National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
    7) Army Intelligence
    8) Air Intelligence Agency
    1. Re:Hacking the grades by ralewi1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In reading the article, paragraph two states that the Department of Defense led the list of failing agencies. DoD is made up of NSA, ONI, NRO, DIA, NGIA, "Army Intelligence" (INSCOM) and AIA, as well as a myriad assortment of other entities, big and small. So, if 2 through 7 in coward's list of "agencies" hacked, they only looked out for themselves, sabotaged each other, or hid under a rock.

  10. no wonder DoJ got an A by RelliK · · Score: 3, Funny

    Their security system is so good, it regularly deletes all email, just so that no one else gets it.

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  11. Well... by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if it was good enough for our president...

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  12. Perl scripts and default passwords? by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Read up on what Gary McKinnon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon found.
    Just like in the control room for Springfield's reactor in Last Exit To Springfield (9F15).
    The US has all the Get Smart like security, but then has the dilapidated MS door wide open for any and all.

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  13. Turbo Tax vs. IRS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yesterday, we have a story where Turbo Tax's online system exposed a few tax forms for returns with similar names.

    Last Friday, it was reported that the IRS lost 490 computers with potentially millions of taxpayer records. (The IRS is not sure what was lost.)

    Tell me why the latter isn't a bigger story?

    Answer: With TJ Max, Georgia CHIP, the CIA, and Los Alamos were all desensitized to the daily reports.

  14. Not surprised by jlindy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We shouldn't be surprised by this. Considering the size of the federal gov't it's safe to assume that they're a representative cross section of the population. If it's true that 25% of the computer in this country are part of a botnet, (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/26/22 29203 ) then the gov't. is on par with the rest of the country.

  15. I am not surprised by Mike_ya · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect this also includes government networks run by contractors.

    A while back I use to be friends with someone who worked for one of these companies that do contract work for the government, for one of those agencies that require Secret or Top Secret clearance along with requiring routine polygraph tests.

    I was told stories on occasion how IT jobs would come open and be filled not with individuals that had the technical qualifications but those that had the security clearance.

    Heck, my friend who had a clearance and did clerical work was promoted to run the Help Desk and was giving a book to learn on the job. Then again a few years later to administer servers spread around the globe, with no formal training.

    I was told the contracting companies would not hire individuals for the clearance jobs unless they already had the clearance. The clearance trumped any sort of job qualification.

    If this has changed since 9/11 I don't know.

    1. Re:I am not surprised by QuasiEvil · · Score: 3, Informative

      >If this has changed since 9/11 I don't know.

      A couple friends of mine recently hired on with a growing government contract IT firm out here. The HR department didn't even really care about the resume, but rather the fact that two of them already had clearances. According to them, they work with some utter idiots, but they're qualified to see almost anything, so they keep them around.

    2. Re:I am not surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suspect there is reason to their madness. Getting clearance for an individual costs quite a bit of money - in the order of a few thousand dollars I'm told, depending on clearance level - and requires a lot of time - some people I know had to wait a few months for their secret clearance. Not that this really should be an excuse for hiring knowledgeable people, but I can see it being a factor. Do you really want to spend a few thousand dollars and wait three months just to find out someone isn't right for the job? Maybe in the ideal world companies would recognize that the fact that a good worker would "earn" them back a much larger return than they had to spend initially, but in reality, I find a lot just look at the short term. We need to spend money AND time?! Next!

    3. Re:I am not surprised by cyphercell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      funny, the security clearances are making the system insecure, me thinks something is broken.

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    4. Re:I am not surprised by mu51c10rd · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just left the civil service, working in DoD. I saw plenty of contractors, including the security teams ( security and accreditation process people) have complete ignorance of technology. They were hired because they held a 3C0 AFSC (if that) and a clearance. Their idea of security is running off of a checklist, with no thought given to new exploits in the wild. The checklists usually ran something like: 1. Antivirus up to date? 2. No Guest User? etc. These same people have caused there to be plenty of NT 4.0 servers still running as domain controllers. For that matter, there were plenty of individuals in the civil service who also were not IT people, but working in an IT capacity.

  16. Don't believe it by Spazmania · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone dealing with a security audit right now, all I can say is: don't believe a word of it. The auditors tick off items on a checklist. Telnet running? Lose points. Telnet running on your Cisco routers in a configuration where a man-in-the-middle attack is impossible? Its Telnet. Lose points. Telnet running in an impregnable fashion because that's what the vendor offers for remote access and you locked it down damn tight to compensate? Its Telnet. Lose points.

    Damn auditors.

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  17. The grading seems skewed by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 2, Informative

    So the agencies were all graded on their self-reporting of their own security... I think I'm seeing the problem here. My guess is the DoD and other high-profile agencies got poorer marks because they grade themselves harder. I have seen many times where a group gets a bunch of security requirements and responds back, "yeah, we meet those."

    And even legitimate reporting of FISMA requirements is damn near pointless. Q: "Do you have a firewall?" A: "yes! It's default allow with no rules but the requirement sais firewall." Q "Do you have an IDS?" A: "Yes! It has the default rule set, no one monitoring it, and we don't even know if you can access the logs but it's there." I have seen that answer, literally, on a system that people would simple assume had someone personally approving every packet.

    In the end, it's damn near impossible to tell who's secure and who isn't without having a single team do unannounced pen tests on everything and reporting how they compare. And there are so many problems with that approach I don't know where to start. But you will always have teams that lock a system down so tight water doesn't get in yet fail requirements. You have people who meet the letter of requirements yet add no measurable security. And you will have the people who simply lie because they can't be bothered to hire someone competant to do the reporting.

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    1. Re:The grading seems skewed by saverio911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually the grades are created by the GAO in conjunction with each Department's Inspector General. They audit a cross section of the assessments submitted by the system owners for each Department. And by "audit" I mean they show up at the site with the report and go through a physical verification of all the details entered. Nothing makes a government Sysadmin's day like having an auditor shoulder surf while they go over server settings for 8 hours. I have been through it.

  18. Doesn't matter... by davidmillions.com · · Score: 2

    If they get hacked it's our money anyway...

  19. What a scam... by eklitzke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't understand the attraction to full disk encryption. Sure, it will prevent a would be thief from reading some of your personal emails or getting access to your credit card information. But all the good secrets are on servers and corporate networks, not on people's laptops. And if the secrets are really good, you're not going to be able to just get to them just by stealing someone's laptop.

    For example, where I work, to get onto the corporate intranet you need to actually be physically connected to the corporate network, or you need to access it via a VPN. To get on the VPN, you need the group password and your individual password. The group password is static, but your own password is a combination of a PIN plus the sequence of digits on the RSA SecurID card you're issued, which change every sixty seconds. This is a really standard setup, and means that to get anywhere you would need to steal my laptop (to get the group password), know my PIN, _and_ steal my SecurID card. Actually, you would _also_ need my corporate username and passphrase, but if you're good enough to get all of the above I assume you can get those too.

    If you want to secure email (or whatever), that's easy too. To get to the mail servers you need to be on the VPN, which is already a pretty good start. At that point all you need to do is make sure that all the really sensitive email accounts are local delivery only (i.e. no POP/Exchange/IMAP access). To read email you get a web based email solution or a shell account on the mail server. Either way you log in by connecting to the VPN and doing your normal Kerberos authentication. Obviously web mail presents a bit of a problem in the way of the browser cache, but it's fairly simple to lock down a shell account in such a way that users can't connect out from the account (or scp files).

    Anyway, adding full disk encryption to this is a joke. It's a scam to let the companies that provide the disk encryption hardware/software make a lot of easy money. If you were doing things right in the first place it would be a _lot_ easier for someone to get the encryption password than it would be for them to get to your sensitive data. Instead of paying hundreds of thousands of dollars on a proprietary disk encryption solution, get some competent system administrators.

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