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A Succinct Definition of the Internet?

magnamous asks: "Ever since Senator Ted Stevens used the phrase 'series of tubes' to describe his understanding of the Internet, I've noticed several stories and comments referencing how silly that is. Although I agree that that description is rather silly, each time I've found myself trying to come up with a -succinct layman's definition- of what the Internet is, and I come up short. Wikipedia has a gargantuan page describing the Internet, and Google's definitions offer pretty good descriptions of what the Internet is in a functional sense (with some throwing in terms that the layman wouldn't understand, or take the time to understand), but not really a good description of what it -is- in the physical sense that I think Sen. Stevens was trying to get at. What are your suggestions for a succinct layman's definition of the Internet?" I know some would say that laypeople should take the time to learn the technical, more accurate meaning of what the Internet is. The problem is that they won't. We all know laypeople. I live with two of them. When you start talking about 'TCP/IP' or 'DNS', or if you get far enough to start describing those terms, their eyes glaze over. That's what makes them laypeople — they don't care about the subject enough to learn about it in-depth; if they did, they'd be computer enthusiasts. So please keep in mind that, in order for this discussion to be useful, 'succinct' and 'layman' are essential parts to any definition of the Internet given here. Also keep in mind that 'succinct' doesn't necessarily mean one sentence; a relatively short paragraph would be fine, too — the main goal is to come up with something that physically describes the Internet in a way which laypeople can actually understand."

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  1. The Internet by mfh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The internet is a collection of ideas, presented to users in a vast array of increasingly easier to use methods, by a plethora of individuals, groups, small businesses, corporations and governments, for multiple purposes involving money, fact and/or opinion. No single group of aligned parties shall control the Internet, or the Internet shall be no longer valid.

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  2. Best one short sentence description? by Threni · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about "bunch of computers connected using phone lines"?

  3. Series of tubes by biocute · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe just call it "series of tubes"? Stevens is pretty layman, so I wouldn't be surprised most people can understand better with description like that.

    We used to call aeroplanes "big metal birds" and people instantly associate it with "big flying things" in a physical sense. Later on, aeroplane becomes a common term and no more layman terms are needed.

    So in the future the term "internet" would be enough for everyone, but right now, "series of tubes" pretty much describes its physical structure.

    1. Re:Series of tubes by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We're already at that point, unless you happen to live in an African tribe or similar. 10 or 15 years ago, this "what do we say to laymen?" question may have had some relevance, but now it does not. Everyone I know either uses the internet, or at least knows what it is, and this isn't just geeks or nerds, it's 75-year-old retired people, disabled people, and assorted other totally non-technical people. In developed countries, especially those speaking English (since we are discussing an English definition after all), there's almost no one left who doesn't know by now what the internet is.

      It's true, these people may not understand exactly what it is on a low level, like what backbones are, what companies own them, what TCP/IP is, etc., but just like with airplanes, they know the important stuff: that it's a "network" connected to their computer that they can use to access email, websites, and other services. These nontechnical people use the internet every day for reading their email, buying stuff on Amazon.com, checking out their favorite discussion forums, etc. They don't need a definition for the "internet". They already know what it is. That some stupid politician doesn't know, or feels some need to create a definition, is utterly pathetic.

    2. Re:Series of tubes by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As long as you're intelligent enough to understand what a "metaphor" is, Stevens' description is actually pretty good.

      (I'm all for ridiculing the man on political grounds, but going after the guy for this is just childish.)

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    3. Re:Series of tubes by Senjutsu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As long as you're intelligent enough to understand what a "metaphor" is, Stevens' description is actually pretty good.
       
      No it wasn't. The "series of tubes" part of the metaphor was ok, but the rest of the metaphor was confused non-sense that corresponding to nothing in real-life and suggests the fact that the quasi-usefullness of the "series of tubes" part is probably more accident then a demonstration of any level of understanding.

  4. the internet in a nutshell by Rudisaurus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's pretty much a telephone system, except that it's computers calling other computers. Most people have a basic understanding of the workings -- if not the mechanics -- of a phone system.

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    1. Re:the internet in a nutshell by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In all of 0.5 seconds i came up with this:
      "A global computer network."

      People all know the word 'A' but probably couldn't tell you if it is an article or a noun.
      People understand global. To the stupidest it means big, to the educated.. well they should know damn well what the internet is.
      Computer. You know that thing that beeps and bops and plays games and downloads porn.
      Network. That thing you build up when you politic.. except this time its for computers.

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  5. Tubes are fine by rta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thougth the "tubes" analogy was fine, myself. I don't know why people got on his case about it.
    Usually when i try to describe the internet I liken it to the mail system. You have "envelopes" that are addressed to someplace. Then they get picked up by someone, thrown on a truck, routed etc. It's basically the same thing that happens with packets as they get routed.

    As far as the WWW goes, that's a different and distinct thing that's built on top of the Internet. I don't think it's really that hard to explain. It's just like a library or newspaper basically.

    If you want to get into the finer social implications.. then that's another story, but the basics, I think, are easily understood in terms of familiar concepts.

  6. Simple English Wiki by daeg · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Simple English Wikipedia edition has a decent definition, although it throws in packet switching and "IP" in the definition (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet):

    The Internet is a worldwide network of interconnected computer networks that transmit data by packet switching using the standard Internet Protocol (IP). It is a "network of networks" that consists of millions of smaller domestic, academic, business, and government networks, which together carry various information and services, such as electronic mail, online chat, file transfer, and the interlinked Web pages and other documents of the World Wide Web.


    So when you come up with a good definition, please contribute and edit the Simple English page.
  7. Depends on the context by deblau · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Physical: The Internet is a collection of computers that send each other messages, along with the equipment that carries the messages. Social: The Internet is a virtual community where people can get together, do business, and share ideas and culture. Functional: The Internet is a way you can use computers to send family, friends, and co-workers letters, pictures, and movies. Technical: The Internet is a collection of computers following protocols conforming to the OSI model that enable computers to communicate with each other. ...

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  8. Re:The Internet is... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a really good definition. You are right that the key observation is that the technological means by which all of the computers are connected and the protocols they use are not important.

    However since we are defining The Internet and not merely any computer network (to which your definition would apply), you should mention that this is a globally connected public system.

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  9. Series of tubes is a good metaphor by alienmole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know people joke about the series of tubes thing, but it seems to me that was the least wrong part of Stevens' totally confused statement.

    Politics aside, I don't really see the technical problem with comparing the Internet to a series of tubes. Tubes have a predictable bandwidth, i.e. you can only pump a certain amount of liquid or gas through them in a given time; and they have predictable latency, i.e. you push something in one end, it takes some time to come out the other end. So far, a lot like a network connection.

    What the "series of tubes" doesn't capture is the packetized nature of the internet, or the complexities of routing, and other such details. However, at the abstraction level at which Stevens was talking, I'm not sure any of that matters. If you're talking about things like "clogging up the Internet", it's true that that can happen, for the same reasons that tubes can get clogged: if you try to put too much stuff in, at too many entry points, your backbone tubes are going to become a bottleneck. So the metaphor holds up in this case, and predicts behavior that you can see on actual networks.

    The fact that the email problem Stevens was describing had nothing to do with Internet congestion is a separate issue, which doesn't actually detract from "series of tubes" as a metaphor for the Internet at a certain level of abstraction.

    I'd love to hear reasons why I'm wrong. Other than "Ignore the facts, we must excoriate politicians who are against network neutrality!" Ridiculing a perfectly good metaphor just because you don't agree with the guy using it is not the way to sensible public policy, although I admit it does seem to be how politics is often conducted.

    1. Re:Series of tubes is a good metaphor by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A roadway is a much better analogy. It isn't perfect, but it at least captures the fundamental notion that you have lots of pieces of data trying to get from different point As to different point Bs across a common, shared network of paths. The word "congestion" also means the same thing on the 'net as it does on the beltway.

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    2. Re:Series of tubes is a good metaphor by seaturnip · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So it's like an "information superhighway"!?

  10. Ah, that's an easy one. by Onan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A friend of mine managed to cover this in four words over a decade ago:

    "Many computers--all friends."

  11. Re:It's Tubes, Quite ALright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I agree. The problem here is that the Internet is close to being irreducible in it's complexity, and thus any simplifying metaphor will have to ignore a huge chunk of what's going on. There is simply nothing that people know that is both sufficiently common and sufficiently similar to really work as an analogy.

    The the metaphors must be tailored to the aspect you want to describe, and in the sense that bandwidth is a limited resource, clogged tubes sort of work. A network of roads with trucks on them trucks works well too.
    (Of course, we know that both these analogies are stupid, because it's really a matter of opening and closing circuits to replicate bit states etc. Ergo, nothing really *moves* anywhere.)

    Having said that though, I think he sounds stupid most because of *how* he says it. It's clear that he doesn't understand his own analogy and the limits of it's validity. The analogy itself is ok though.

  12. In context, Ted was nuts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > I don't know why people got on his case about it.

    Because of the rest of the description wherein he believed that other people downloading movies somewhere were clogging the pipes and kept his "internet" (email) from arriving on time. If you watch it in context, it's clear that he doesn't know how the internet works. As far as anyone can tell, he believed the pipes are, well, literal pipes with "internets" flowing through them. Did you ever see the full speech? Only the first line gets widely quoted any more, but the Daily Show showed the whole thing. It was ridiculous.

    Anyhow, the most succinct definition of "internet" I can give you is just one word: here.

    Or if you need something with more technical accuracy, it's the giant network computers get connected to because almost everyone else is also connected to it. All the internet providers link to other providers, who eventually link with everyone else, because there's not much value in having a network isolated from the rest of the world in most cases.

  13. The Internet is more than The World Wide Web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The Internet is a set of sophisticated protocols and connections allowing any 'connected' computer or appliance to communicate.

    The World Wide Web (Web) is an array of services available on the Internet, allowing individuals, groups, corporations and governments to read, publish, buy or sell - to or from - broad or narrow audiences.

    But the Internet is more than just the Web - it allows a wide array of services and products to communicate, from email to machine to machine reporting and control, to new forms of telephony and new kinds of software that 'feels local', but isn't. The only constant of the Internet is change, and the largest threats to the Internet are from entities that want to slow or halt progress or the free exchange of ideas.

    You know. The establishment. Entrenched power, whether religious, political or corporate.

    The Internet represents change, for good or ill.

  14. "All friends?" by lennier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And that's why we still have spam, because SMTP thinks all computers are our friends.

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  15. The Internet isn't a thing. It's an agreement. by weston · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I've always been partial to statement #2 from the Searls & Weinberger piece World of Ends:

    When we look at utility poles, we see networks as wires. And we see those wires as parts of systems: The phone system, the electric power system, the cable TV system.

    When we listen to radio or watch TV, we're told during every break that networks are sources of programming being beamed through the air or through cables.

    But the Internet is different. It isn't wiring. It isn't a system. And it isn't a source of programming.

    The Internet is a way for all the things that call themselves networks to coexist and work together. It's an inter-network. Literally.

    What makes the Net inter is the fact that it's just a protocol -- the Internet Protocol, to be exact. A protocol is an agreement about how things work together.

    This protocol doesn't specify what people can do with the network, what they can build on its edges, what they can say, who gets to talk. The protocol simply says: If you want to swap bits with others, here's how. If you want to put a computer -- or a cell phone or a refrigerator -- on the network, you have to agree to the agreement that is the Internet.


    The Internet is no single piece of technology. It is an agreement about how to have different networks and technologies talk to each other and work together.

    It's a bit heady, maybe even a bit airy-fairy, but the essay captures some of the essence of why the Internet is different and proves to be so valuable.

    I also think it's a good lead in for discussing why net neutrality is essential. A non-neutral policy essentially throws away the agreement, likely fracturing the network into pieces between which there'd be ongoing maybe-we'll-talk-maybe-we-won't negotiations. Pieces get balkanized, even walled off, and resources that used to go to developing services that anyone who was part of the agreement could use now have to be devoted to the negotiation.

    With the Internet agreement, you don't have to concentrate on that. Just follow the guidelines on how to talk to one edge of the net, and you can talk to the whole world. That's the revolution.
  16. That's cause IT IS like the mail system by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IN fact that's where the terminology game from. Why do you think a bunch of data is called a packet? Its cause packets are what you send through the mail, at least in the 50's thats what they were called (nowadays everyting is a "package" but that's more because the term "packet" is now more widely used electronically.

    If you want to explain the internet to people, use the analogies that the original terms were modeled after!

    Server - A server is like a waiter or customer service person. You ask it for something and get get sir for you. The ony difference is the server is a computer that is handling the requests.

    Client - A client is like a patron or business client; he is the person asking the server for things. In the case of the internet the client is another computer, who is asking the server for something.

    Packet - A bundle of information, with an address, that needs to be delivered. The packet could be going from the client to the server, in which case it is how the client is asking the server for something. If it is going from the server to the client, it is the information the server asked for.

    Server, Client, Packet. Three simple words any layperson SHOULD ALREADY KNOW. It's not really hard to explain.

  17. Zen??? by Thinman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does the internet exist if nobody is connected?

  18. Re:Pipes okay, but not tubes? by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."

    It displays an amazing ignorance of the scale and nature of the Internet. He is almost certainly not waiting to receive a 10 megabyte email, so the other traffic on the Internet is essentially meaningless. My ping times to anywhere in the world are never above 1 second (except to dialup users), which means that email will not be delayed much longer than the time it takes to transmit it with available bandwidth. There is no "filled" tube for a message to get in line behind, only a great number of packets of roughly the same size with equal priority. The real reason his email took longer to arrive than expected was probably because of busy spam/virus/censorship/echelon filters and spam-clogged email servers.

    In fact, he Internet *is* something to just dump things on. It is designed to work that way because it's a packet switched network. It's not like a highway where mac trucks block traffic; the mac trucks and cars get cut up into equal size packets and the packets all go the same speed. The mac trucks still take longer to get where they're going, but none of the cars ever have to wait behind them. At worst, the roads just get too crowded and bandwidth has to be increased.

  19. Telephone net for computers by Tanuki64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's how I tried to explained the internet to my mother. Each Computer has a telephone number (= IP number), which can be used by computers to call one or more other computers (single call, conference call). WWW is just a way how they talk to one another, when they are connected. Surely not more correct than the series of tubes, but it was good enough for her.

  20. Re:Many really don't know... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I disagree, it isn't irrelevant to all, just those with a technology clue. I think we're developing an example of what C.P. Snow wrote about so long ago -- the huge gap developing between the intellectual "haves" and "have-nots". It's rapidly becoming an insurmountable gulf.

    For people immersed in an IT culture, what the Internet "is" and "how it works" are no-brainers. But there's a trap of expertise in that it does not cross cultural boundaries, as communications between the technology "haves" and "have-nots" tends to atrophy and eventually the "other group" isn't recognised at all. Here's a sample meme:

    "If all you have is a hammer, then it's generally a bad idea to adjust your BIOS settings".

    I can understand that meme, you can understand that meme -- here's a test, can you imagine anyone who wouldn't get that meme? Yet the first part is local to an engineering aphorism and the second is pure desktop technology. Yet the meaning is immediately familiar to us. So familiar, in fact, that one cannot possibly imagine how anybody today could not "get" it. Yet how many people from, say, the class of people with only a small grocery store background, or a background in politics or fashion management or timber industry would know what a BIOS was if it bit them in the clock?

    Those in the know are often unaware just how eye-glazing our conversation can be to those who don't. And trust me, there are a lot in the latter camp. A lot in the latter camp.

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