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Censoring a Number
Rudd-O writes "Months after successful discovery of the HD-DVD processing key, an unprecedented campaign of censorship, in the form of DMCA takedown notices by the MPAA, has hit the Net. For example Spooky Action at a Distance was killed. More disturbingly, my story got Dugg twice, with the second wave hitting 15,500 votes, and today I found out it had simply disappeared from Digg. How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?" How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?
Remember De-CSS?
"MIT betrayed all of its basic principles."
I now know what my new sig is... Thank you!
Oops, how did this get here?
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
There's a saying in the (physical) lock business. I am not in it, so I may have the wording wrong, but the gist is:
In the safe business, safes are rated by how long they take to crack. They never claim to be uncrackable.
Trying to make DRM better than locks and safes in the real world is futile.
If ever a story deserved to be tagged hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 then it's this one. Remember, your tag must start with an alphabetical character, and it takes a lot more tagging than it used to to get up there in lights.
How long must a number be to be copyrightable? Any digital file, including programs, can be written as a number, yet obviously pictures and programs can be copyrighted. The number 1 cannot be copyrighted, but the 98641-decimal-digit number corresponding to the original Super Mario Bros. ROM images can be. Where is the line drawn? Can cryptographic keys be copyrighted? Can the MPAA use a (long) key containing a copyrightable image so that the cryptographic key is copyrighted as well?
"Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
When data is small enough to fit into a URL or a Google query, it's probably too small to be copyrighted. I don't know why that's so intuitive to most Slashdotters, but not intuitive to movie execs...
I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:
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13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,64
or this one
1001 11111001 00010001 00000010 10011101 01110100 11100011 01011011 11011000 01000001 01010110 11000101 01100011 01010110 10001000 11000000
Have you ever considered piracy? You'd make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts.
The processing key works with both HD-DVD and Bluray, unlike the summary that mentions only HD-DVD.
The interesting thing is that in the takedown notice, one of the URLs specified actually contains the key. Can they prevent you from showing the takedown notice?
Posted a link to this article on Fark - the discussion thread was killed instantly.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Use their own weapons against them! Let's learn from Turk 182 and use that same method. Who is going to be the first one to decorate MPAA property with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ?
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
Well, you may have a point about Cory in particular, I take exception to your use of the term "anyone". The majority of the world lives outside the US and therefore should not feel intimidated by its laws.
Or this one 4 8 15 16 23 42
Go home and shave your giant head of smell with your bad self
That's great.
:)
This guy used it in his URL and got a DMCA takedown notice.
Oh the irony
These people seem to crack it using Windows based soft-players using the X-Box USB attachment (USB connection is the unencrypted weak link). Perhaps the MPAA should leave the bloggers alone and look at what Microsoft is doing.
Microsoft is a cancer that attaches itself in an security sense to everything it touches...
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On a serious note, I am the owner of hdkeys.com, and I have felt the full brunt of this censorship. I established the site back when BackupHDDVD was released, and modified the source adding the ability for the program to automatically retrieve volume keys from the site when they were not found in the local key database. In addition, there was a searchable form on the index page where you could lookup keys. At first, I received a DMCA takedown sent to my dedicated host provider (Layered Technologies), demanding that my hosted copy of BackupHDDVD be removed. This demand arrived at the same time Sourceforge received a similar letter. A month or so passed by and I received another letter, this time through my registrar, GoDaddy, demanding that I remove all the volume keys from the site or be sued out of house and home. In addition, the second letter dictated that I must call the law firm and inform them that I have complied. I complied, but did not notify them. The site has been offline since then. As far as I'm concerned, they demanded something of me, it's up to them to confirm that I have complied. So in recap, I've been threatened, strong armed, and intimidated (you should have read those letters), via my webhost and registrar for simply hosting:
A) A textbook implementation of the AACS protocol and
B) Hex strings
Yeah, America rules.
mmm...muffins
For the unitiated, that's a reference to Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson.
0+9+F+9+1+1+0+2+9+D+7+4+E+3+5+B+D+8+4+1+5+6+C+5+6+ 3+5+6+8+8+C+0 = CD , just thought I'd add to the conspiracy
It's got a long way to go before it can beat the DMCA and win freedom!
o rd1=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C 0&word2=DMCA
Just look: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&w
The mere fact that geeks regularly cooperate on a massive scale (i'd hazard the only people who cooperate on a larger scale are organised religions) illustrates that we do not lack the social skills necessary for our society.
As opposed to Dan Brown novels, where the whole book sucks? Thanks, but I think I'll stick with Stephenson. Everyone says he writes horrible endings, and horrible sex scenes, but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm too much of a fanboy (especially after "In the Beginning was the Command Line"), but I'll paraphrase a famous quote: "I may not know literature, but I know what I like."
I wouldn't have modded you down. I know that, like Linux, Stephenson's writings aren't for everyone. They make me happy, so I keep buying them. Dan Brown's stuff bores and infuriates me, so I sell back to the used book store and don't buy anything more of his.
Nathan's blog
www.hddvdkey.com
If they're so upset about people saying what the processing key is, then surely they'd have no problem with saying what it's not.
-- Alastair
I've got this piece of information which I only know that the first digit starts with the number nine (00001001 in binary). I've encoded this information using a special encryption technique and a key. This to keep it from being used by persons that do not have the right to this information. Anyway, noone without should decode the number, or you would breach the DMCA. This obviously goes twice for the RI-AA.
The information is: A3 53 BB A8 37 DE 49 F1 72 EB FC 6F C9 FC 22 6A
Amazingly enough it is not only articles that are being deleted. Digg comments explaining why it was a bad move by Digg are also being deleted! (Scroll down to a thread where users are saying their comments are being deleted because they explained how posting a number is not illegal)
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eCard of the Number (3rd ecard on the page) http://www.brainwrench.com/ecards/categories/prote st.php
In fact I just started a blog about the legal side. I've never heard about a DMCA takedown based purely on a domain name before...
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http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com
"To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
ping -p 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 www.mpaa.com
Hmm, shame MAC addresses are too short.
Arbitrary URL strings?
The possibilities are endless.
The previous comments are only true, if no-one says they're wrong.
Whether you agree or disagree with the policies of the intellectual property holders and consortiums, in order for Digg to survive, it must abide by the law.
So who's going to tell him that they were already abiding by the law? A randomly-generated number is not protected under any known intellectual property law.
Wuss.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Am I the first to post Base64? "CfkRAp1041vYQVbFY1aIwA"
Or, an even better idea...
If you treat the hex string as a sequence of unsigned big-endian U16s, and then look up the sequence of corresponding words in OSX's password dictionary, you get "edit view phosphor beautified sorcerous crushed kneader deadline".
Obviously we have the processing key already mentioned. Now what is that supposed to do for the average person? Is there a program that takes advantage of it out yet?
It would have honestly not mattered if you had or hadn't with godaddy involved. Your domain is likely up for auction right now. Godaddy is terribly unscrupulous, but they don't make a secret of their domain stealing activities, it's right in their TOS.
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Digg really screwed up this time. At the time of this posting their whole front-page is plastered with key related articles sharing the hex in various ways. Not to mention the other dozens of upcoming stories going up the digg rankings within minutes. The chaos reminds me of IRC channel take overs back in the day. This is truly a digital revolt. Today I am proud to be a geek.
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For extra fun, you can put the number in your user agent string. Since plenty of server logs are public, the number will be in lots of log files all over the place.
In Firefox, you can append a comment to the default existing user-agent string, by visiting about:config and adding a string property with the key general.useragent.extra.firefoxComment
Whatever you put in there is added to the end of the user agent string that is sent with every request your browser makes. Mine is now:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070426 Firefox/2.0.0.3 Version 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640
Thanks to ludwik on digg for the suggestion.
After giving up on Slashdot a little less than a year ago, I am back now to truly appreciating what I had! I look forward to the years to come...
Much better. I popped on to Digg to see the site destroyed by the stupid code. No articles, just the stupid code. And MAYBE 1 in every 5 actually say what the code is and what's going on. You have to piece it together from the headlines flashing by through the refreshes.
Here on Slashdot, we've got one story. And it's got information.
Apparently, according to the discoverer, this key also works on bluray. Almost all of the articles and posts I see forget to mention (or don't realize) that this key also works on bluray media. Either way, after reading through the forums on doom9, it seems like it was one hell of a fun endeavor. Hope the MPAA hasnt gotten their hands on the fellow. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pag e=9
The only consistency in life is the lack thereof
Wikipedia is discussing the speedy-delete done to the article about the number. Looks like Wikipedia may end up censoring the article because of fears about future censorship due to the DMCA.
And here's the song.
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