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Wally Schirra Dead at 84
UglyTool writes "Wally Schirra, the only astronaut to have flown on the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo missions, died of a heart attack at a hospital in San Diego. Wallyschirra.com has much more on the man, his life, and his contributions to the American Space Program."
He's the type of guy that a woman astronaught would drive across 5 states wearing an adult diaper to make her own.
Female astronaughts hardly ever do that for me anymore.
The Treating the Dead article just popped into my head upod reading this, and I though to myself: I wonder if those ideas could have been applied here to help save him.
RIP, Wally.
- Eddie
Female astronaughts hardly ever do that for me anymore.
;)
Are Female Astronaughts naughty or was that simply just a misspelling?
Actually, he probably was in his younger days. Had the honor of meeting him once when I was a reporter. This was around 10 years ago and you wouldn't believe the number of women flocking around him to hear his stories ...
Bark less. Wag more.
Or even an 'Astronaut'.
We've definitely gone from the days when our astronauts were national heroes, and space flights were major news items, to relatively anonymous folks risking their lives to put the next communications satellite in orbit for our corporate masters. Honestly, does anyone here know the name of a current astronaut off the top of their head without doing a search? We need a mission to Mars or something similar sooner rather than later.
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Altough he didn't walked in the moon in his Apollo mission, his death made me think if there will be a time when, as before, no living person had actually went to some other world. With no moon mission schedulled by any nation capable of it, and the ageing of Apollo astronauts (it's almost 4 decades since the landings after all), it seems possible that in some point in the future we will have no moon walkers among us.
Kind of sad. Reminds me that, for some decades, civilians (rich civilians, of course), could cross the north atlantic in less than for hours, and now, well, only the military can do it that fast.
Wally excelled in quite a different era. It was a time where men were creating a new type of future where anything was possible with the application of human ingenuity and effort. He was a shining example of this stage of history.
We now seem to see a future where human ingenuity is being bent to restrict mankind.
Wally, we need more like you. You will be missed.
We've definitely gone from the days when our pilots were national heroes, and trans-oceanic flights were major news items, to relatively anonymous folks risking their lives to put the next group of people in another country for our own entertainment. Honestly, does anyone here know the name of a current pilot who's flown across the Atlantic off the top of their head without doing a search? We need a mission around the globe or something similar sooner rather than later.
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He was a great man and did a lot for the space program and science in general. He'll be greatly missed.
May 4th be with him.
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Thus passes a true hero.
That's not surprising. How they got a 100,000 ton aircraft carrier airborne is the real question.
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What?
>> astronaught would drive across 5 states wearing an adult diaper
I hear she's doing endorsements for Ass-Go-Nought brand adult diapers.
what im REALLY wondering is: how much more heroic would a Beowulf cluster of Wally Schirra's be?
In "The Right Stuff", Tom Wolfe noted that Shirra was the one who almost laughed himself out of the space program.
Much of the book was about the transition of the image of test pilot from "fighter jock", basically a blue-collar, manually-skilled guy who was a "natural stick & rudder man" to the white-collar scientist/robot who lived by the checklist.
Neither was true of anybody, certainly, but at least one story in the book of a flight shared by pioneer Chuck Yeager and new kid Neil Armstrong underscored the difference between the generations.
The Mercury Seven all had to kind of be both to make the cut; command respect from their fellows and the Old Guard in general as natural flyers, and also be respected by the German scientists and Washington bureaucrats running the new space program.
Wally had an irreverent and irrepressable sense of humour that was loved by the old gang and very, very nearly got him shut out by the new, who basically wanted another computer in the capsule, an utterly reliable component with as few "human" characteristics as possible.
Wally helped make sure it was humanity with all its strengths that became "Man in Space".
All those things combine to make commercial aviation much more "routine" to the public than spaceflight.
Schirra was the only astronaut to fly missions for Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo. And the Apollo flight he commanded, which was the first one after the pad fire that killed the crew of Apollo 1, was conducted at a time when a lot of the astronauts still considered the Apollo craft to be a death trap. But they still went, and it was the success of their test flight that gave NASA the confidence to send the second manned Apollo mission all the way to lunar orbit in 1968.
Exposure to too much space radiation must've killed him.
Wally Schirra, the only astronaut to have flown on the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo missions....
One could almost argue for Gus Grissom to be on that list, too. Second Mercury flight, first Gemini flight, and the commander of Apollo 1. Unfortunately, since Apollo 1 burned on the pad before ever leaving the ground, killing Grissom and his two crew, I guess Schirra stands alone.
A couple of years ago I visited the Kansas Cosmosphere where they some of the old equipment on display that the earlier Astronauts used. While it may have been state of the art (at that time), it is "junky" by todays standards. He and others from that generation deserve many accolades for what they accomplished. Think about it--because some today can not find their rear-end without a GPS device.
I'll give you a different, and possibly Slashdottian perspective on the "War drives Progress" model you proposed.
The reality is that Our Corporate Overlords don't like true Progress, of the disruptive sort. They like progress, (with the lower-case "p") of the incremental sort, the kind that keeps their guaranteed spot on top, and keeps them making money the same way they made it last year, only more of it. I would propose that most of the time, they're doing their very best to kill disruptive change, or at least slow it to the point where it is no longer disruptive. Microsoft once mentioned "managing the pace of change in the industry," which I would imply to mean managing the pace of change so they can retain their "leadership" role. Even so, every now and then a disruptive innovation like the Internet manages to sneak through. One might argue that now Corporate America is doing everything in it's power to kill the disruptive basics of the Internet, too.
War changes this.
Real War, that is. War like WWII, not war like Viet Nam or Iraq. Real war threatens the very existence of Our Corporate Overlords, because if we lose, they're toast. So when real War happens, the brakes on disruptive innovation are removed, because survival is at stake. As long as you win, you have a chance of retaining your spot on top, and will most likely be alive. If you lose, both are in doubt.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
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In the 50s 60s and 70s we all believed that it was possible to work and innovate to create a world where the future was bright and full of possibility. We knew our world was full of atrocities and we lived under the cloud of Mutually Assured Destruction, but we really believed that it was possible to beat those enemies and if we created enough we could make a world where 'it all would be better'.
I don't see that innovation and 'pushing towards the future' gives the average man the same vision of hope anymore. I see two groups that look towards the future with bright eyes. Techies that can't wait for the computers that the future will bring and people who believe that tomorrow will bring an ecologically sound and energy secure future (without a real struggle). The best a lot of us are hoping for is a way to innovate so as to avoid disaster. We are missing the part where we think that we might go beyond a possible disaster into a utopian future.
I think that we can agree that most people don't think that we are going to solve our non political struggles without a painful struggle and sacrifice. We realize that what was our 'manifest destiny' of progress is destroying the world we live in and charging into the future doesn't have that child-like glee anymore.
I see your point in terms of the government, NASA and the whole space race.
But are talking about Wally here, not NASA. I think the grandparent has every right to be as nostalgic as they want.
There are plenty of people at NASA, then and now, doing things for NASA because it's science and exploration, not because the government wants to build bigger bombs.
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The year 2009 will be the 40th anniversary of the first moon landing.
It will also be the 37th anniversary of the last moon landing.
Dammit.
If everything goes according to current NASA plans, they'll be back in 2019.
2019!
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I was in line at the grocery store behind an astronaut (Jan Davis), but I'm in Huntsville, AL (another non-average location).
Yes. Dick Rutan.
And told me to go to hell.
Since many posts have taken the opportunity to take pot-shots and cheap jokes about the astronaut program, I'll take time to recommend one docudrama on this astronaut's fine history: HBO's "From The Earth to the Moon" has a beautifully comprehensive episode called "We Have Cleared The Tower" on the events of getting the first Apollo test launch in space, and Wally's efforts to keep "Go Fever" from causing many of the same problems on his Apollo 7 that ultimately killed the Apollo 1 crew. Mark Harmon plays Schirra, and there are many good performances that fairly accurately detail the training, launch setup and pre-flight.
After Scott Carpenter's near-disasterous Mercury flight (where he nearly exhausted his maneuvering fuel, jeopardizing his life on re-entry, and landing 250 miles off-target), Schirra's Sigma 7 mission put the project back on-course with textbook operation and completion of mission objectives, and was a highlight to the necessity of human input in spaceflight.
In terms of spacecraft history, only John Young can be argued as the most experienced astronaut in terms of number of space flights (6), different spacecraft (4) as well as specific projects (3). He's flown two Gemini missions, flew Apollo 10 as Command Module pilot, flew Apollo 16 as Lunar Module commanding pilot, and flew Space Shuttle Orbiter Columbia on its maiden flight and on STS-6. Jim Lovell has a similar history (having flown in Gemini and Apollo twice), but because of the events of Apollo 13, never walked on the moon, and retired before the Space Shuttle project. The only thing Young hasn't done was Mercury.
Some of you may remember Schirra's commercials on Actifed in the 1970s (which he had to use on Apollo 7 when the astronauts caught a sniffle). I think that was one of the very few astronaut commercials (Sally Ride and Buzz Aldrin have done some, I believe).
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At his old fraternity house Sigma Pi - Alpha Mu Chapter of NJIT in Newark, NJ we still have his old records from when he was active. This man truly has left a legacy behind which none will forget. God Bless.
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"Hey, Wally, are you a Turtle?", and if he will give the proper response? :)
RIP, Jolly Wally.
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Hmm... have you noticed how all of these so-called "astronauts" have been dying off within 50 years of their "travels."
I'll bet that within 80 years of the "moon-landing" their won't be any of these "moon-walkers" left alive.
So, what do you think? Conspiracy? Ineffective use of "double-quotes?"
I hate to put facts up against your rant - but commercial flights on the Shuttle ended back in the 1980's after the loss of Challenger.
Sure - but then I don't rely on 'corporate masters' for my information. I get off my ass and find out news on what I am interested in myself.
OK, I forgot Huntsville. But the point is, commercial pilots are a bit more evenly distributed throughout the world. I'm sure there are more near me, about an hour's drive north of Chicago's O'Hare Airport, than there are in the middle of Kansas, several hours from a major airport. And I'd the number of astronauts in all of the EU is fewer than the number in Houston.
Wally done all right. One of the few who can truly be called a hero.
you will truly be missed May your afterlife take you to the stars, moreso than you have ventured in your current life
The youngest moon walker (Harrison Shmitt; Apollo 17) will be 84 in 2019. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin will be 89. There's a good chance at least one Apollo moon walker will survive to see mankind return to the moon.
Good on ya, Mr. Schirra...may you have the best of luck on your final mission, scouting out the frontiers of the afterlife for those coming after you. We know you will carry it out with the same doggedness and attention to detail that marked your missions in this life.
May you, Grissom, White, and Chaffee have a grand time catching up on the 'good old days'!
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