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New "Terminator" Trilogy Planned
Ant writes "Dark Horizons reports after much talk and posturing over the future of "The Terminator" franchise/series in recent years, something surprising has happened: The Halcyon Company has acquired the franchise rights to the popular movie series and intends to make a new trilogy that would anchor their movie company..."
Another dead horse to beat.
I just had this awful premonition of a new model of Terminator...
...It can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead...
"Meesa be back!"
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
Terminator: The Animated Series.
He did say 'I'll be back'.
I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
Terminator IV: A new John Connor Terminator V: The Robots Strike Back Terminator VI: The Return of the Terminator
Minti: What's that huge shuriken in your back?! Kin: It's the instrument of my victory.
Enough with the trilogies already. why can't we have a single good movie and just let that be?
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Isn't more Terminator but another Alien movie based on the book that should have been Alien 3 i.e. Alien Earth Hive. That would seriously kick ass.
I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
.... in POO.
After repeated viewings, I'm of the opinion that Cameron's what makes the franchise. We didn't need a third movie (what the hell was up with that, anyway?) - much like we didn't need a Highlander 2 (or 3, etc).
If they're good, that's one thing - but Terminator without Cameron is like, say... The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen without Allen Moore. Or Watchmen if it were written by Rob Liefeld.
The only upcoming "sequel" sci-fi I'm looking forward to is Babylon 5 : The Lost Tales. It's more B5, and most importantly, it's still under the control of Straczynski.
I trust in creators, not franchises.
All hope for humankind is almost lost. John Connor is on the ropes, he and his band of rebels have almost been completely eliminated by the latest rev of the Terminator line, the T666. However, like a bolt from the heavens, the real saviour of the human race emerges. It is non other than Darl McBride. It turns out that SkyNet has at least 1024 instances of SCO owned IP in it's source code. Darl is able to tie SkyNet up in litigation for years, allowing Connor to regroup ....
FTA:
"Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project, which picks up with John Connor in his 30s leading what's left of the human race against the machines."
T4: The return of the return of the machines.
T5: The return of the return of the return of the machines.
T6: The return of the return of the return of the return of the machines.
I could work in Hollywood.
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Which bit of "Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project" are you struggling with?
I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
Anchors drag things down, or at least keep them where they are. I think they need a better analogy. Perhaps something to do with cars...
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I agree. As much as I enjoyed the original Terminator movies, the background plot of John Connor always seemed more interesting to me and I always felt a bit disappointed that it wasn't developed further. The part in T1 when Michael Biehn's character (Reese) falls asleep under the bridge and has a flashback dream was an incredibly cool sequence.
I'll be back, and back, and back.
Life needs more saving throws.
It might be the "original," but that "or" is also deceptively complex.
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"Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project"
I can predict the future on this one without time travel.
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With vaguely homoerotic overtones, like Spiderman. Because Hollywood hasn't turned everything into shit just yet.
But to be fair, T-3 was pretty close to that. All that they need to do is fill the cast with whatever interchangeable hunks and chicks are in whatever is hot on the WB at that time.
Oh yeah and did I mention that Sarah Conners has to be black?
Terminator IV: A New Hope (more of a "hacker movie" like Swordfish) As human resistance slowly fails, it falls upon hackers to discover a decription code for the robots programming which happens to be: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Rebels win the day. Terminator V: Sony sues back (a lawyer movie) The robots sue the rebels of IP infringment. A climactic point is reached when John Connor is on the stand. The defense displays pictures of various robots (1 at a time) and asks the question, "Are these the motherf*ckers?" to which John angrily screams "YES!" Terminator VI: Return of the Sequels ...
"Now I'm seriously serious!" - Serious Sam
It would be good if they mined the old Terminator comics put out by Dark Horse. They were set in the future, following the rag-tag human resistance as they tried to survive and fight back, dealing with the creeping paranoia that some of their number are secretly Terminators out to destroy them from within. I'd appreciate bringing the series back to its creepier roots.
Fuck, this is dreary. Even if it isn't that good can we have some new Sci-Fi?
Something that isn't a "franchise". Some that is not Star Wars? Or Star Trek
Or whatever it is Hollywood has already made dozens of movies of?
Fuck ANY thing without a number at the end!
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
The advantage of a well-done trilogy is that the first film sets up certain expectations regarding characters and plot. The second film then plays with those expectations in a surprising and suspenseful way. And when the third film wraps everything up, you feel a satisfaction that can only come from having lived with the characters in your imagination for several years.
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...or at least, that's what I used to think. Then I found out that A TRILOGY KILLED MY FATHER--and it's COMING AFTER ME NEXT!!!!!
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Well, that was close. The trilogy that killed my father almost killed me, but fortunately, I was saved by a bunch of fuzzy, cute merchandising opportunities that had absolutely nothing to do with the tone or content of my first two posts. Whew!
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Personally, I love the first two. They're impressive, action-packed, and scary. I never even bothered to see the third one because it looked like it was going to suck right out of the gate. Turns out I was right.
The problem with T3 and any future project is that they're doing it for the bucks, not because there's any story worth telling. When it's about the money, the entire project will be permeated with a workman-like attitude. "Hey, don't complain, you're getting paid." "It doesn't have to get good, it just has to be finished." "Why invest any of myself in this? Nobody cares anyway."
So anything the studios put out will suck, suck, suck. But there's a theoretical question, is there anything left to explore in the Terminator universe? To that I would have to say yes: the machine war. They already did time travel in the first two movies. Doing it again in the third was a stupid and hackneyed idea. So, what stories are there to tell in the future? This guy has some ideas.
http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/contents.html
His birth of skynet story here is suitably terrifying and well-written. You could just imagine what something like this would look like on film.
http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/skynet.html
Any future Terminator storyline should discard T3, start with a new numbering scheme, and go with all new characters. The Machine War. The rise of the human resistence. The eventual defeat of Skynet. Not even a hint of time travel until the end of the third movie where John Connor leads the assault on the Skynet time portal. Use some CGI to make a new actor's face look like Kyle Reese from the first film. They enter the portal room. The instruments say that something has already gone back. Kyle strips down and goes through the portal. Connor orders the device reset for another transfer. "Wait, we're still here, aren't we? Didn't Kyle save you?" "Yeah, but Skynet sent two back. Prep the T800 we captured." Why only send one each time? Why not send more soldiers? They have the facility, they could send back an army. "Because only four were ever sent back in time, one human, three terminators. It worked out well enough for us then, I see no reason to risk changing things now."
Bah. The new Terminators are going to suck shit through a straw.
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Okay, so we've already got -
- The Terminator
- Terminator 2: Judgement Day
- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Followed by -
- Terminator 4: Inescapable Truth
- Terminator 5: ?????
- Terminator 6: Profit!*
* The working title for "Terminator 6: Profit!" is "Please, oh please, watch this movie." I can't wait for some asshat to start with the whole "social contract" crap and how we, the good little consumers, have an obligation to go to the theaters and finance whatever garbage they're shoveling this week. Think of the children of the executive producer!
sensenet becoming self aware is what sets the whole shebang off in the first place right? that's always been the most interesting aspect of the story to me. why not tell the story from the point of view of the AI?
WE WAN'T OR!
I'm struggling with your use of the apostrophe here. What does 'wa not' mean?
-- "Oh. This guy again."
A public service announcement.
http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/t3review.html
A review of
T3: Rise of the Machines
or the alternate title
"T3: WE REWROTE T2: JUDGMENT DAY AND TRIED TO SLIP IT PAST THE FANS FOR MORE OF THEIR MONEY"
Déjà vu is a funny feeling you get when you think that you have done or seen something before. Well, when I bought the T3 DVD and watched it for the first time I had a real case of déjà vu. Even though this was the first time that I had ever seen T3:ROTM, I knew that I had seen this movie before. Now, where was it that I had seen T3:ROTM before?
Hmmmm.
(insert sound of me snapping my fingers)
That's right! it was the Summer of 1991 and the movie was called Terminator 2: Judgment Day way back then.
T3 is a lampoon of T2, and a very bad one at that. From cheesy acting to laughable holes in both logic and plot, T3 fails as anything other than maybe a demo for some well done FX eye candy. The bad news is that it is official, it is canon, and it effectively beheads and neuters the first two movies in one fell swoop at the same time. T3 should be a lesson to all other film-makers of how not to make a movie using a vastly popular franchise. Big money and big star power couldn't save this stinker...
Let's recap the plot to T3:ROTM. SKYNET's attempt to kill Sarah Connor in 1984 fails. SKYNET then sends back through time an advanced prototype terminator to kill John Connor when he's older. The Resistance manages to send back a reprogrammed Terminator to protect John Connor. A chase ensues with the prototype Terminator pursuing John Connor while the reprogrammed Terminator protects him. A climatic battle between the two Terminators in the end results in the destruction of the prototype as well as the noble, self sacrifice of the guardian Terminator.
Notice any similarities there between T2 and T3? Sure you did because T3 is just T2 with more eye candy and a lot weaker plot. T3 could easily be considered a rejected script for T2: Judgment Day. At any rate, the abortion that is T3 should never have seen the light of day. There are numerous loop holes in the logic of T3 and several things that just really stood out as dumb. Let's review those now.
(Dumb)- the advanced prototype Terminator arrives back in modern day LA and immediately grabs a flashy, high dollar sports car then proceeds to drive like a maniac thus attracting all manner of public as well as law enforcement attention. The Terminator then proceeds to drive around and terminate people without any real regard for stealth. Sure, LA is a big, crazy place, but the amount of bosomy blondes in really tight red dress suits driving around at 90mph in a convertible Lexus and randomly capping people at burger stands can't be more than a hand full at any given time. Also, as a police officer, I know that when the officer pulled over the Lexus, he would have called in the make, model, and tag. Other officers would have been en route to back up the officer who stopped the Lexus, especially if it failed to yield to blue lights or he had to chase it a short bit. Once they arrived, or the dead officer failed to call in within two minutes (dispatch would check on his status often, especially on a traffic stop), other officers across the city would be on the look out or in pursuit of the Lexus. At least in T2:JD, the T1000 was smart enough to mimic a police officer, take the patrol unit, and access the LAPD central computer system in its quest to find John Connor.
(Dumb)- if the T-X can produce weapons out of its body, why does it need a Glock to carry out its mission? When it pulled up to the drive-thru at the burger joint to kill the first victim on its termination list, it would have made more sense if it had simply created a finger spike and run it through the eye socket of the kid at the window, like the T1000 did with the security guard at the insane asylum in T2. Tha
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This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
We don't know that much about what skynet did after it took over, how the humans fought, what happened elsewhere in the world.. this is what T3 should have been, but wasn't. There's probably enough there for at least one more movie, but I don't know about three.
..don't panic
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"More humans... please... the first one was... delicious...."
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You'd pay to see a 30 seconds flick?
Then again, when I look at some porn sites...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I think it was an episode of this week in media where someone said something like,
~"People think Hollywood is about creativity and artistic expression. It's not - it's actually a very strange investment system. You put some money in, and hopefully, get more money out. An established franchise is a form of hedging."
However, fear not, movie fans - the tools coming out will allow anyone with talent to produce a film with production values as high as any, and it's getting cheaper all the time. The red camera, increased competition in computer software, more powerful hardware, &c., and not to mention the internet as a distribution mechanism.
The future is bright for creativity and expression through film; the antithesis of Hollywood.
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
Having been granted full ownership of SkyNet by the courts, Darl McBride repurposes it to hunt down and destroy Linux users who have failed to pay their $199 licensing fee. Even though John Connor is a BSD user, he realizes that it is only a matter of time before Darl turns on his kind as well. As an act of desperation, Connor forges an alliance with the remaining T666 units, knowing that he is facing the greatest threat to humanity yet. While the T666 units stage a valiant assault against Darl, it is clear that they are no match for his ever growing power. All appears lost until it is revealed that the assault was just a diversion to allow Connor to strike at Darl's Achilles' heel by getting SCO delisted from the NASDAQ.
We'll have the new release, then a remastered release in which the Terminator doesn't fire first.
[Spoiler alert]
Episode 4: Total Recall
After modifying part of skynet, John Connor managed to recall all robots back to HQ where he short-circuited their Sony power unit until they swell and explode. Towards the end the program managed to install itself on a retrotype animal robot.. something called the AIBO
Episode 5: Kindergarten Cop
Turns out before the Terminator was sent back in time to help young John, the old John sent another robot called the Eraser to assist toddler John in finding little Miles Bennett Dyson. The SkynetAIBO was also sent back in time and ate all of John's erasers, including the one that smells really nice. SkynetAIBO returns home sick from eating too much erasers.
Episode 6: The Last Action Hero
The future world is now finally at peace. Robots are again used as servants and slaves without soul. John refused to lead the nation of United States and settled to govern the state of CA-90210.
One day he suffers from major headache when a hotel chain heiress Barcelona Hotlin begged him to get her off her impending imprisonment due to excessive velocity transport without authorization clearance. He agreed to pardon her in exchange with sexual favor, which the SkynetAIBO secretly taped and sold all over the Interweb. SkynetAIBO becomes rich and builds a new ROBOTIC EMPIRE. (pitch to the next series of trilogy)
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I have seen the future, and it's direct to DVD
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Obviously, they'll be produced by the Republican Party. So, who will be the new Terminator? McCain? Giuliani? Huckabee? Romney? Maybe Santorum in preparation for '12 or '16?
"which picks up with John Connor in his 30s leading what's left of the human race against the machines." Read: The Matrix.
oh marmalade.