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Culture Determines Which Emoticon You Use

Ant writes "A LiveScience story discusses the cultural differences in interpreting facial expressions. The article notes that where you come from plays a large role in what part of the human face you use to determine another person's mood. That also includes communicating online with the usages of smiley faces. 'For instance, in Japan, people tend to look to the eyes for emotional cues, whereas Americans tend to look to the mouth, says researcher Masaki Yuki, a behavioral scientist at Hokkaido University in Japan ... In Japan, emoticons tend to emphasize the eyes, such as the happy face (^_^) and the sad face (;_;). "After seeing the difference between American and Japanese emoticons, it dawned on me that the faces looked exactly like typical American and Japanese smiles," he said.'"

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  1. No emoticons? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what culture am I a part of if I want to strangle someone every time they use any kind of emoticon at all?

    1. Re:No emoticons? by stsp · · Score: 5, Funny

      So what culture am I a part of if I want to strangle someone every time they use any kind of emoticon at all?
      Vogon.
    2. Re:No emoticons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The league of grumpy old Slashdotters?

    3. Re:No emoticons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess you're just old >:->
      But what I don't understand is why do you want to strangle people who use emoticon ? O_o
      I mean... it's just a way to communicate more efficiently ! :)
      Oh, boy... I'm so dead :(

    4. Re:No emoticons? by arivanov · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Case A: you are the culture that still reads the text, can understand a joke, can understand sarcasm, can use and read cultural associations including ones not just in your (or nerd) popular culture, can... What is even worse, you expect that from the people around you. If that is the case - you are an endangered animal in a world of TXT-abuse. You need to be entered in the red book of endangered species, towards the end, near the black pages.
      Case B: you need a break. Long one to restore your sense of humour.

      According to the good slashdot tradition I am not going to RTFA, but I will pitch in my 2c anyway. The observation is correct. If you look at eastern Europeans they use the ;-) much more than English or Americans, Brits tend to use the ROFL emoticon more and so on.

      Cheers ;-)

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    5. Re:No emoticons? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "So what culture am I a part of if I want to strangle someone every time they use any kind of emoticon at all?"

      Lighten up.

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    6. Re:No emoticons? by nevernamed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course it would be easy to understand why those anime cartoons have such huge eyes after reading this!

    7. Re:No emoticons? by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's meant to be crying. The lower part of each semicolon represents a tear.

    8. Re:No emoticons? by h2g2bob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I mean... it's just a way to communicate more efficiently
      That's right, they DO serve a purpose. Text is very easy to mis-read, especially if it contains sarcasm or jokes. Humans normally use facial expressions and tone of voice to convey this information, which isn't part of email or IM. Emoticons show this.
    9. Re:No emoticons? by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Funny

      Text is very easy to mis-read, especially if it contains sarcasm or jokes.

      <sarcasm>This sounds like a job for XML!</sarcasm>

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    10. Re:No emoticons? by FuzzyFox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But people don't use their noses to communicate emotions.

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    11. Re:No emoticons? by cellocgw · · Score: 2, Informative

      But people don't use their noses to communicate emotions.
      Let's see...

      "He wrinkled up his nose in distaste."
      "She walked around with her nose in the air."
      "The boy snorted with disgust."

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    12. Re:No emoticons? by illegalcortex · · Score: 2, Funny

      So what culture am I a part of if I want to strangle someone every time they use any kind of emoticon at all?
      Asperger's.
    13. Re:No emoticons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It looks like you're trying to type an XML Document. Did you mean to write:

      <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
      <sarcasm xmlns="http://www.martinpayne.co.uk/humour/">
      <![CDATA[This sounds like a job for XML!]]>
      </sarcasm>

  2. D'uhhhhhhhhh by Xtense · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, ain't it obvious? It's not like the Internet is some sort of global village or something...

    Oh, wait...

    Alas, if you think you saw emoticons, just google for Shift_JIS art, especially of the 2chan kind (there's some on en.wiki, but it's mostly the copy-pasted stuff). For what I know, that BBS is, and i quote, "f*****g huge". It's more than a subculture, but less than a culture of it's own. If i recall correctly, they've even written a book and have their Shift_JIS creatures roaming some japanese TV programs.

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  3. That's interesting. by asninn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's interesting, because when I use emoticons, I generally tend to use the eye-emphasising forms - ^_^, ^.^ or even ^^. In fact, I'm using the first of these considerably less often than the latter two, where the eyes are even more prominent and all other facial features are reduced to just a single dot (representing the nose, in my interpretation) or removed entirely.

    It also depends on the context, though; the less personal the context is, the more I tend away from these emoticons. In very formal contexts, I wouldn't use any at all, of course, but in the area between "all emoticons are frowned upon" and "100% personal" (Slashdot would be a good example), I tend more towards things like :) and so on.

    Interestingly enough, for me at least, there's also been a definite change over time; back in my BBS/FidoNet days, I used dashed forms like :-) pretty much exclusively and despised the dashless versions, but over time, I first shifted to the dashless versions, and then away from those as well and to the caret emoticons.

    And I'm not even Japanese. (I'm not a US-American, either, of course, but I think that in terms of fundamental cultural issues like this, US-Americans in general are still close enough to us Europeans for the study to apply to us as well.)

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    1. Re:That's interesting. by Mylakovich · · Score: 4, Funny

      Interesting indeed! Facinating, even! What a unique and special person you are.

  4. The most enigmatic one by wumpus188 · · Score: 5, Funny

    (.)(.)

    I am a regular ./ reader and this one always puzzled me.

    1. Re:The most enigmatic one by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Funny

      /-{ }-\

      What does this one say about culture?

    2. Re:The most enigmatic one by Panseh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For instance, in Japan, people tend to look to the eyes for emotional cues, whereas Americans tend to look to the mouth... Maybe Japanese actually spend time looking at the face, while Americans are looking somewhere else and catching a glimpse of the mouth by chance.

      The article reasons that Japanese attempt to suppress their emotions, but that cannot be the case. Looking into a person's eyes is very intimate interaction while looking at their lips would be more akin to hiding emotion.
    3. Re:The most enigmatic one by kumanopuusan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sorry, but the parent isn't insightful, it's misinformation. What the article's author is saying is that the Japanese don't make big smiles. You've actually got it backwards.

      Japanese people don't spend a lot of time looking into other people's eyes. It makes people very uncomfortable. I've even been recommended, on more than one occasion, to look at someone's chest rather than their face. During conversation, it's important to look away from the other person occasionally. The practice has the odd effect of making Japanese people in Western countries sometimes appear unattentive or uninterested. During meetings at work, I'm often the only one even looking in the direction of the person who's talking.

      So, it isn't that Japanese people stare into each other's eyes all the time. His point is that Japanese people (especially the older generation) can be not very expressive about their emotions. Since they don't make big smiles or frowns, grimacing emoticons don't make sense. What little emotion is conveyed through the face is shown in a person's eyes. A greatly exaggerated version of this forms the Japanese smiley.

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    4. Re:The most enigmatic one by Red+Pointy+Tail · · Score: 3, Funny

      (.)(.)

      I am a regular ./ reader and this one always puzzled me


      Everyone stand clear! Don't answer that one!

      It's a boobie-trapped question!

    5. Re:The most enigmatic one by Raideen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Things must be changing then. My relatives look directly into my eyes when speaking to me. It's true about the "older" generations (like my grandparents in their 90s) but my parents (in their 60s) crack jokes, smile brightly, and are visually expressive. The only time that I'm aware of that looking down is appropriate is when you're being submissive, like when you're being reprimanded by your boss or parents. I'm not saying that you're wrong--just that our experiences are quite different. However, I share your experience about there being less emphasis on eye contact. Visual or audible indications (like nodding or "hmmm") that indicate that you're paying attention are still required though. Anyone with their eyes closed during a meeting (which isn't uncommon and can show intent listening) that isn't making any type of gesture could very well be sleeping. :-) (I'm American born and started BBSing in the 1990 so I use the horizontal type. BTW, I was referring to my relatives in Japan, not just my immediate family who has been in the U.S. for 30+ years.)

  5. non-human emoticons by kahei · · Score: 5, Insightful


    It would be instructive to consider the Internet's small but active flounder population, whose emoticons look like this: ..)

    Notice the distinctive adaptation to a 'flounder-like' way of percieving faces. Of course you may object that internet-using flounders are imaginary. As a matter of fact, that's an objection was raised even by many prominent flounders when the 'unicorn flounder' smiley was first circulated:

    -..)

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  6. Let :-) Reign Supreme! by eklitzke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a young college-aged student, and I've definitely noticed a shift towards Japanese style emoticons like ^_^ from my peers. Even among those who use the "sideways" emoticons, certainly you would never see :-) -- the hyphen is considered superfluous, and a simple :) will do just fine.

    Maybe I'm asocial, but because of this I've adopted the "retro" :-) style smilies, which seems to really bug a lot of my friends.

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    1. Re:Let :-) Reign Supreme! by coaxial · · Score: 2

      I find myself using asian smilies with my friends from asia and western smilies with my american friends. I will say that the western smilies are quicker to type, but the asian ones are much more expressive. There really aren't any western smilies anyone can recognize beyond: :) ;) :( :| and :/
      but you can express frustration and resignation much easier with the asian smilies.

      ^__^
      -__-
      T__T ;__;
      -__-;;

      Interestingly, asian smilies always resembled the defunct bixies.

  7. Triangle eyes by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    "...the happy face (^_^) [...] it dawned on me that the faces looked exactly like typical [..] Japanese smiles,"

    I've never seen a Japanese, or a human being bend his/her eyes in a triangle shape when smiling.
    Could it possibly something else?

    Japanese animes also show a character who's under stress having a huge cross attached right from his forehead, or suddenly disappearing eyeballs and long black dashes coming out of the characters face. Anyone seen that on an actual real human, or it just me.

    Smilies are an art, and while the way they ended up looking depend heavily on the culture of the people producing them (Japanese smilies follow closely the anime drawing style), I think saying they are strictly modeled after actual people crying and smiling is just a bunch of wishful thinking. Check some photos, an Asian guy won't smile quite a lot differently than a European guy.

    1. Re:Triangle eyes by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Japanese animes also show a character who's under stress having a huge cross attached right from his forehead, or suddenly disappearing eyeballs and long black dashes coming out of the characters face. Anyone seen that on an actual real human, or it just me. If you step back and take a detached look at Western (or more specifically, American-influenced) animation, you'll note that there are a number of conventions which don't really reflect reality per se. (For example, no-one ever had steam coming out of their ears when they got angry). It just happens that the Japanese ones look strange to you because you're not familiar with them.

      Humorous comics in general use a number of conventions and visual language which are almost second-nature to us- but only because we're used to and have grown up with them.
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  8. I've been using them for 20 years... by rbanzai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... can't stop now!

    I first saw an emoticon when I started using Quantum Link (AOL before it became AOL.) I was in a chat room and was confused because now and then someone would end their sentence with ":D"

    Eventually I had to ask and someone wrote "look at it sideways."

    Using a few basic emoticons has become as natural to me as regular punctuation marks, and just like regular punctuation when it is used responsibly it clarifies and enhances communication. //misses his C64 ///with the BIG ol' 300 baud Vicmodem ///:D

  9. Re:/b/tards by Mikachu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rules 1 and 2, asshat. :P

  10. The mouth lies by Colin+Smith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's easy to fake a smile. It's more difficult to fake happiness or amusement shown through the eyes. Some cultures recognise this.

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    1. Re:The mouth lies by Madcapjack · · Score: 2, Funny

      its especially easy to fake smiles on /.

      : )

  11. Re:The one I hate by BrewedInTexas · · Score: 2, Informative

    I picked that up from Japanese playing FFXI. ^^ is just short form for (^.^)

  12. Re:The one I hate by linvir · · Score: 2, Funny

    They really ought to be using more than two characters, to avoid ambiguity. Like this:
    OLOLOLOLLOLOL ^^^^^^^^

  13. Oh no, it's.... by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

    The goatse emoticon:

    (=O=)

    or what about

    =(3OE)=

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    1. Re:Oh no, it's.... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      The goatse emoticon:

      (=O=)

      I will never see a TIE fighter the same way again, you bastard.

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  14. Re:Russian smileys )))) by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally an appropriate thread to ask this in. Could someone please explain why Russian smileys have no eyes, and typically multiple chins? Because many people in Eastern Europe really look like that... the radiation from Chernobyl had a devastating effect on the populations there.
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  15. Re:The one I hate by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm in Korea, not Japan, and they tend to use the Korean alphabet to indicate emoticons (e.g. _ for sad). I think it's fine, but the emoticon is obviously limited in scope because of the need to type in Korean. People writing to me in English still switch into their Korean input for emoticons.

    In Thailand, they use "555" instead of "lol" (I know, not emoticons ... still related) because five in Thai is pronounced "Ha!" 555 = Ha ha ha!

  16. Re:Ve haff vays of making you smile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is a german smiley actually: Ü

  17. Cultural differences on Eroticon six by SoVeryTired · · Score: 5, Funny
    As far as I know, this one is unique to Eroticon Six...

    (.)(.)(.)

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  18. Emoticon Classes by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What is the ROFL emoticon?

    Emoticons tend to fall into three classes. The first class is the sideways face emoticon, the kind where if you tilt your head to the left, you see a face. eg :-) or 8^\

    The second (newer) class of emoticons is the Japanese style, which is a horizontal rendition of the face: O_O (^.^)

    The third class is the abbreviation class, which uses abbreviations words, and pseudo html to convey the meaning. eg. ROFL [grin] </sarcasm>

    BTW, ROFL means Rolling On Floor, Laughing.
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    1. Re:Emoticon Classes by freeweed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um..

      Count me in the vast group of people that have been online well over a decade, are familiar with virtually all Internet terminology, and have never, EVER heard of "ROFL" being referred to as an "emoticon".

      Notice the term itself - emoticon. A portmandeau of "emotion" and "icon". The last part is a hint that there's something semi-graphical about it. Abbreviations don't exactly fit this term, in the slightest.

      In fact, use of things like ROFL and LOL pre-date the emoticon phenomenon in my experience. Heck, humanity was using abbreviations like this for years before we even had computers (KISS, FUBAR, etc). I don't think retconning them as emoticons makes any sense, and in fact you're the first person I've ever seen try to do that.

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    2. Re:Emoticon Classes by tronbradia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't really interpret those Japanese ones in the least.

  19. Re:No emoticons? 2nd order punctuation! by redelm · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I also used to think emitocons were silly frippery, a distraction devoid of information.

    After the N+1st flamewar on USENET, it slowly penetrated my conservative neanderthal brain that emoticons might actually have valid use: indicating tone-of-voice. Email/postings (incl /.) are very abbreviated, telegraphic, and intentions can easily be misread. Flamewars often result between participants who fundamentally agree. Homor usually falls flat without much greater context. An emoticon alerts the reader of the tone intended.

    So I have come to see emoticons as a second order punctuation. Punctuation separates ideas; emoticons indicate tone. Personally, I very rarely use anything other than :) to indicate [non obvious] humor, irony and sarcasm. I'm not sure where I would use anything else without being totally redundant. For this is a common error -- most people who use emoticons use them excessively, to indicate tone when there could be no other. That is almost as annoying as people who under-utilise emoticons :) [I might have been serious here, but I'm mildly sarcastic]

  20. Re:Backward? by M3SS3NG3R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ancient Chinese texts have always been written in top-down, right-left fashion, although modern day Chinese is almost always written in horizontal, from left to right. In our case since all kanji, katakana and hiragana are read upright even if the reading direction is horizontal, it makes sense to have upright smilies as well. Furthermore, many Japanese smilies are obvious adaptations of expressive techniques used in comic books/anime. It doesn't surprise me at all why the Japanese smilies and western smilies look so different.