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Radiation-eating Fungi

SEWilco writes "Fungus growths have been found in many extreme environments, including the Chernobyl reactor walls. Some fungi have been found whose growth is enhanced by radiation. I wonder if someone saved samples of the MIR-eating fungi."

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  1. My foot is an extremity by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    not an extreme environment you insensitive clod

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    1. Re:My foot is an extremity by The13thSin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well that depends... do you have a shower?

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    2. Re:My foot is an extremity by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      Annually.

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  2. Danger! (Evolution) by nebaz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Eventually, the bacteria will evolve into this.

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    1. Re:Danger! (Evolution) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Eventually, the bacteria will evolve into this. Why do you hate America? Evolution is a myth and is nothing more than an attack on God and the American Way of Life.
    2. Re:Danger! (Evolution) by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wake up -- America is already in the hands of the Darwinists. Haven't you watched any TV or movies lately? It's everywhere, treated as fact.

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  3. hyphenation by onemorehour · · Score: 3, Informative

    Radiation is eating Fungi? I think you might have wanted: "Radiation-eating Fungi," especially in a headline. Consider: "Insect eating plants."

    1. Re:hyphenation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Radiation is eating Fungi? I think you might have wanted: "Radiation-eating Fungi," especially in a headline. Consider: "Insect eating plants." Don't be silly. You would want radiation to eat fungi. Think of it this way: when you find mildew in your shower all you have to do is pull out your 20 curie Co-60 test source and it would go away. And as an added benefit you could perform radiography on your pipes* and have a full dental x-ray at the same time.

      *pun intended
    2. Re:hyphenation by IQgryn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll call your grammar mastery and raise you one Venus Flytrap.

  4. Radiation Eating Fungi by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a huge crisis. If radiation keeps eating fungi at this rate we'll have no mushrooms left by 2040!

    1. Re:Radiation Eating Fungi by falconcy · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and there was me wondering why nukes make a mushroom cloud!

  5. Re:radiation-enhanced growth worries me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You shouldn't talk about Ballmer like that...he's likely to throw a chair or something.

  6. I can't resist... by Pinkfud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'M IN UR REACTOR EATIN UR FUELZ! Now to be serious, radiation resistant bacteria are also known. If mankind ever wipes itself out with nukes, it's comforting to know the world won't be a totally dead place. Everything will start all over, and who knows what will happen next time.

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  7. Original headline was correct... by raehl · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember, Chernobyl was in Soviet Russia.

    1. Re:Original headline was correct... by weapon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Er, Ukraine. Chernobyl is in Ukraine. Ukraine most definitely is not Russia. Yes these days Chernobyl is in Ukraine, which is not in Russia, but in 1986 when the melt down occurred, it was in Russia and back then it was Soviet Russia, the the GP was correct:

      Remember, Chernobyl was in Soviet Russia. and that's my two cents
    2. Re:Original headline was correct... by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Er, Ukraine. Chernobyl is in Ukraine. Ukraine most definitely is not Russia.", "Yes these days Chernobyl is in Ukraine, which is not in Russia, but in 1986 when the melt down occurred, it was in Russia and back then it was Soviet Russia, the the GP was correct: Remember, Chernobyl was in Soviet Russia. and that's my two cents" Er, Ukraine was a _state_ in the Soviet _Union_, thus Chernobyl was in Soviet Ukraine, not Soviet Russia

    3. Re:Original headline was correct... by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Baah. It is all Russia, the same way Scotland and Wales is part of England, and Rotterdam part of Holland.

      This renaming trick is just a convenient way to avoid badboy-points.

    4. Re:Original headline was correct... by elFarto+the+2nd · · Score: 3, Informative

      Scotland and Wales are in no way a part of England, they are all a part of Great Britain.

    5. Re:Original headline was correct... by caluml · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it was in the Soviet Union, in the Ukraine.

    6. Re:Original headline was correct... by daem0n1x · · Score: 5, Funny

      Scotland and Wales are part of England???

      Not only that's totally false, but I'd like to see your face minutes after you said that in loud voice at a pub in Edinburgh.

    7. Re:Original headline was correct... by wild_quinine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Scotland and Wales are part of England??? Not only that's totally false, but I'd like to see your face minutes after you said that in loud voice at a pub in Edinburgh.
      Shouldn't be a problem, you could probably get it shipped in a small box. Better yet, get him to say it in Glasgow and have it stapled to the back of a postcard.
    8. Re:Original headline was correct... by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes these days Chernobyl is in Ukraine, which is not in Russia, but in 1986 when the melt down occurred, it was in Russia and back then it was Soviet Russia, the the GP was correct:

      I'm going to say this in a way that even a geographically challenged American can understand. Ignorance is sad. You need to work on this. This is how things were in 1986.

      USSR = country
      USA = country

      Russia != country
      Tennessee != country

      Russia = state
      Tennessee = state
      Ukraine = state

      Russia = state within a country, that is, it's a state within the USSR.
      Tennessee = state within a country, that is, it's a state within the USA
      Ukraine = state within a country, that is, it's a state within the USSR.

      Nashville = city within a state, Tennessee
      Chernobyl = city within a state, Ukraine

      Chernobyl was not a city within Russia, when Russia was part of the USSR. You might as well insist that
      Nashville is a city in Florida because Florida is part of the USA, therefore Florida is the USA.

      Saying that you know how things are when you don't know anything at all makes you look like a moron.

      Moron = you

      Do you understand now?

    9. Re:Original headline was correct... by 8-bitDesigner · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Amish refer to those who aren't of German decent as "English", regardless to race, creed, or planetary origin. Though, now that I'm thinking about it, an Amish Special Ops force would be pretty awesome.

  8. Radiation Hormesis by dontthink · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First off, IAAMP (I am a medical physicsist). This is sort of radiation-induced growth stimulus was actually studied extensively in the first half of the 20th century. A great reference for this behavior is a paper published in Human & Experimental Toxicology called "Radiation hormesis: its historical foundations as a biological hypothesis" by Calbrese and Baldwin, which examines the dozens of studies examining the effects of low dose radiation on plants, fungi, and insects - fascinating stuff. Over 2/3 of the studies in this time period showed increased growth with radiation, while the other 1/3 used relatively high doses (which is known to have net detrimental effects). People were actually interested in putting radioactive isotopes in fertilizer to encourage crop growth, but results weren't great and the A-bomb happened... and we all know where the public's perception of radiation went after that. I've got a PDF of that paper if anyone is interested (the online version requires a subscription, I believe).

    1. Re:Radiation Hormesis by jandrese · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, it's pretty freaky to read some of the ads in the back of comic books and women's magazines from the early 20s where they were touting Radium as some sort of miracle drug for whatever ails you.

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    2. Re:Radiation Hormesis by James+McP · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Huh, I wonder if that's where the idea for the "giant mutant animal" movies of the 50s came from.

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    3. Re:Radiation Hormesis by dontthink · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yup, I sometimes feel like I missed out by being born after the golden age of radium enemas. On a more serious note, the concept that low doses of radiation can be beneficial has been a pretty hot topic of debate in the radiological science community lately. There was an incident in Taiwan where radioactive Co-60 (is there really any other kind?) was accidentally recycled into scrap steel that was used in over 200 buildings, giving the occupants low doses of radiation. The standardized incidence ratios (the ratio of observed cancers to expected cancers based on the entire population) in these occupants was on the order of ~0.8, or a 20% reduction in cancer incidence. Also look at studies of cancer incidence between regions of high and low background radiation - rates are lower in high background regions. There are all kinds of problems with these epidemiological studies (confounding factors like socioeconomic status and such), but not always. One study compared 100 years of cancer incidence and mortality data of British radiologists - their life expectancies and cancer rates were significantly than other British physicians (also by ~ 20%). If interested, the Nuclear Shipyard Worker Study also has some very interesting results in this vein. Good, controlled research on the topic of low-dose radiation with respect to humans is hard to come by, however, considering the major stigma attached to radiation. Other than worker and background radiation studies, you've pretty much got to wait until an accident happens.

    4. Re:Radiation Hormesis by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is sort of radiation-induced growth stimulus was actually studied extensively in the first half of the 20th century.

      Of course now we know that the reason fungus survives in relatively high raditaion environments like nuclear reactors is because fungii are ruled by Scorpio and the most influencial planet for Scorpio is Pluto. Pluto of course has dominion over "unseen forces", such as ionizing radiation, and its metal is plutonium - the link is so obvious I don't see how this is newsworthy.

      Let me know when the manufacturers of tinea medication realise that the harmonious 120 degree seperation between Pisces (which rules the foot) and Scorpio (which rules fungus) abandon their business because they cannot overcome what's written in the stars

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    5. Re:Radiation Hormesis by TortiusMaximus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ra-dii-aation.

      Yes indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everyone it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everyone can stand a hundred chest x-rays a year. They oughta have 'em too.

    6. Re:Radiation Hormesis by thephotoman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know whether to moderate this +1 insightful or +1 funny, because while astrology is hardly a topic of truly serious study, you did at least get the right associations for everything. Though, while I can see the conjunction of genitals (Scorpio) and fungi (also Scorpio) playing out as a problem (jock itch, yeast infections), and there are some serious problems with foot-based fungal infections (infected toenails, athlete's foot) that align with the Pisces (foot) and Scorpio trine, what about the breasts/chest (Cancer)? I've never really heard much of fungal infections being a serious problem there.

      On a not-really-related note, tinea spp. are very annoying, and I don't care if they keep coming back, I want to kill them. Bring on the anti-fungals!

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    7. Re:Radiation Hormesis by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 2, Funny

      ....what about the breasts/chest (Cancer)?

      Answer 1:
      Mamalian glands (I love that word - glands) start around the armpit.

      Answer 2:
      Cancer is ruled by the moon. To moon is to flash ones bottom. Bottoms are rich environments for bacteria and fungi.

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    8. Re:Radiation Hormesis by dontthink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep, Cameron was extremely gung-ho about radiation hormesis... and it really isn't a new debate - it has been ongoing for the past century. The linear no-threshold model of radiation dose-response (endorsed by most regulatory agencies) was essentially developed as a tool for risk assessment derived from an extrapolation of A-bomb survivors with basically no data to support it at low doses. It really only became prominent due to its conservative nature, the public's perception of radiation, and simplicity. Interestingly, Cameron often described low levels of radiation as "essential trace energy," similar to how small amounts of otherwise toxic elements (essential trace elements) can be beneficial. Unfortunately, my TLD is usually negligible too...

    9. Re:Radiation Hormesis by dontthink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They do have ideas why low-dose radiation can be beneficial. One possible mechanism is damage prevention. After irradiation, there is an increase in levels of proteins and enzymes that scavenge reactive oxygen species (ROS) (As a point of reference, the natural level of ROS in the body is about 3 orders of magnitude greater than that caused by background radiation). This response subsequently increases the rate that natural ROS are removed, resulting in a net decrease in damaged DNA in the system. Damage repair also likely plays a role; in vitro studies of human fibroblasts have shown that the cellular repair rate is increased by doses in the range of 1 - 500 mGy. Low doses of radiation may also induce apoptosis in cells that have undergone an oncogenic transformation. Low doses may also initiate increased immune competence, which could be beneficial in terms of many other diseases. More detail can be found here: Feinendegen, LE; "Evidence for beneficial low level radiation effects and radiation hormesis," The British Journal of Radiology, 2005, Vol 78, p 3-7. The bulk of this paragraph was blatently copy-pasted from a term-paper of mine...

  9. possible upside? by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    so if i don't shower, that means i will be saved from this horrible cell phone and wifi radiation i keep hearing about?

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    1. Re:possible upside? by djdavetrouble · · Score: 4, Funny

      You have escaped from kuro5hin ????!?!
      Quick, alert the authorities, like that guy who owns the internet !

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  10. Re:Fungi Monsters by JContad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pshaw. They got nothing on fat, italian plumbers.

  11. Link to Mir fungi by Joaz+Banbeck · · Score: 5, Informative

    The link for mir-eating fungi goes to an old slashdot story which itself points to a dead link. A usable link to the original story is here: http://www.space.com/news/spacestation/space_fungu s_000727.html

  12. I'm confused ... if I eat these ... by SpeedyDX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Will I turn into Fungus-man? Or will I suddenly grow twice my size? Or will I get an extra life?

  13. Flawed paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the article:

    "Irradiated melanin manifested a 4-fold increase in its capacity to reduce NADH relative to non-irradiated melanin."

    Sorry! NADH is the reduced form, NAD+ is the oxidized form. NAD+ can be reduced to NADH. NADH can't be further reduced by organisms.

    I'll leave it to others to find the additional flaws.

  14. Re:Chemistry anyone? by Secshunayt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Radioactive isotopes can emit alpha particles, which are helium nuclei, beta particles, which are an electron emitted from the nucleus when a neutron changes into a proton and an electron, or gamma particles (more accurately rays) which have no mass or charge and are a form of electromagnetic radiation. The closest thing to what you are suggesting would be an ionized hydrogen atom, which is simply a proton. This, however, is not a form of radiation; it's just, well, hydrogen.

  15. Well... by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 2, Funny

    I for one welcome our new mutant fungi overlords.

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  16. Re:I thought this was news by 4e617474 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I doubt it's possible to get living organisms to shorten the half-life of radioactive materials, but fungi that abosrb radioactive materials can be very useful. When radioactive waste contaminates the ground, fungi can extract and concentrate it. The mushrooms can then be harvested for disposal as radioactive waste, leaving the soil in the area less radioactive. Paul Stamets describes it in Mycelium Running (there're good facts in between the hippie/druggie/mystical stuff) describing this and other similar applications of fungi as "mycoremediation".

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  17. Still the wrong subject by Askmum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not "radiation eating", this is "radiation enabling".
    Eating radiation implies that the radiation is removed or converted. There is no mention of that.
    That's the same like saying "solar rays eating fungi discovered".

  18. IAAMP is... by DrYak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would really like to know what a medical physicist is.


    As the name could show you, it's a physicist (someone with a PhD in physics) working in the medical fields (his colleagues are MD, just like me).

    There's a field of medicine where we needs the a lot, for exemple : the nuclear medicine.

    High radiations are something that kills, as the MP said before. Therefor they can be focalised and targeted to kill cancer cells (Yes. Friking "nucular death rays" ! ... Although we haven't found a way to mount them on sharks). In this case, it's the Doctor's job to find the tumor tissus on the Scan and/or MRIs, decide the therapy (how much do we irradiate ?) and tell the machine how much to send on which part (although not all the step may be done by the same person. and the actually button-pressing will be done by a technician).
    It's the physicist's job to design the model that the software use to predict how to irradiate the targeted tumor without irradiating too much neighboring healthy organs. It's also he's who is in charge of the callibration of the machine etc.

    Other example : low-level radiation are mostly harmless. but they can be detected. Thus there's a whole class of examinations that can be done by ingesting/inhalating/injecting some radioactive material, and then make pictures/filming the radioactive emission to 'see' where the radioactive product went (for exemple using a radioactive gaz, to see how gaz circulated inside the lung. That's part of an examination called "pulmonary scintigraphy"). The doctor is mostly only taking care to read and interpret the produced pictures. Almost everything else (production of radioactive material, machine callibration, etc.) is supervised by physicists (and the actual manual job done by technicians).

    etc.
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  19. Better stay clear of this stuff... by MS-06FZ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Before you know it there'll be a big forest of this stuff emitting deadly lung-rotting spores, and the forest will be home to a legion of giant, deadly, and extremely vindictive insects...

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