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"Jericho" Fans Send Over Nine Tons of Nuts to CBS

nuts-to-CBS writes "After presenting 'Jericho' fans with a cliffhanging season finale, CBS promptly cancelled the program. The shocked fans quickly banded together, many using CBS' own public "Jericho" discussion forum, and began brainstorming on ways to convince the network to bring back the show for a second season. A plot point in the final episode of "Jericho" involving the expletive "Nuts!" (in reference to an historic conversation between generals) was turned into a campaign to send large quantities of nuts to CBS' NY, LA, and affiliate offices. Fans have sent a total of $26,000 for a pooled campaign hosted at Nuts Online to ship over 19,000 pounds of peanuts to CBS. Other efforts acquired over $9,000 to publish full page advertisements in Variety (National Edition) and The Hollywood Reporter for Tuesday, May 29th. This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation." There's more about the massive fan rollout below. CBS created rich, interactive content online to accompany their show "Jericho," in order to extend its fan base to the Internet-savvy, TiVo-owning generations. Despite suffering through the all-too-familiar mid-season hiatus employed by many shows, the "Jericho" fan base remained strong throughout the break, partially due to the episodes being posted both for free on the CBS site as well as for purchase on iTunes. "Jericho" returned from the hiatus in the same timeslot occupied by "American Idol." CBS — which apparently still determines programming primarily on Nielsen ratings — decided to drop the show, regardless of the ever-growing and loyal fan base. Nuts Online includes live blogging from Jeffrey Braverman, the company's 26-year old CEO. Jeffrey's company has been shipping up to 5,000 pounds of peanuts a day to the CBS New York headquarters, and has been using their site to describe his experience along the way. Three other fan sites are documenting the progress: CBS Jericho Message Board, Jericho Lives, and Jericho Rally Point. Fans of Roswell were successful in bringing back their favorite program by sending mass quantities of tiny bottles of Tabasco sauce."

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  1. Jericho *was* Nuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First off, I'm sure that the people at CBS are enjoying the free lifetime supply of tasty peanuts. Hopefully they'll send back a thank-you card. Maybe one of those new Star Wars Hallmark cards. (After all, it's the least they can do.)

    That being said, Jericho went off the air because the show took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. When it first started, the premise was intriguing. A post-holocaust world from the perspective of those who have no idea what could possibly be going on. It makes for a great setup. The first few episodes were even fairly good, with the early problems from the detonation wreaking all kinds of havoc. After that? Things went downhill.

    Pretty soon the show was focusing more on love triangles than it was on the fact that everyone was just trying to survive. Emergencies were regularly forced into the story rather than the characters having to deal with realistic difficulties. There was so much that they could be exploring, yet the show was being "the O.C. after the bomb". (Or whatever the latest "pop" show is for stupid teenagers. Anyone remember that scene from Stargate-SG1 "200"? Yeah, that.)

    As interesting as it had been, I just lost interest in the show. Checking my iTunes library, it looks like I stopped at "The Day Before". 13 episodes watched, and I just couldn't stand it anymore. So is it really any surprise that Jericho got cancelled?

    I realize that many fans are begging for a conclusion to the cliffhanger, but that will pass with time. Remember the show Sliders? Remember how it died in the 5th season with both the main characters wiped out, Wade killed off in a twisted experiment, the reason for sliding gone, and a hokey story about a mad scientist stuck its the place? The show lost its purpose, yet the producers ended the season with a massive cliffhanger in hopes that fan outcry would bring the show back. And after watching the final episode, you do get a feeling of, "You can't leave it there!"

    But in hindsight, it's best that it stayed off the air. There was about a zero point zero zero chance that the O'Connell brothers were going to return to the show, and the writing had been of poor quality anyway. If the show had returned, we would have gotten another season of the show's slow and agonizing death. Why? It was best that it was put out of its misery.

    (Of course, the show "jumped the shark" in the third season with the loss of John Rhys-Davies, but at least the "finding Earth" and "looking for Ma and Pa" subplot was interesting.)

    So I'm sorry to say this, but let it die. It was a nice try, but hopefully a better show will take its place.

    1. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by NMerriam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree -- it was an intruiging premise that kept me watching for about 9 episodes, when it became clear they were basically a LOST-style show that was never going to bother answeing anything and just keep adding more and more complicated conspiracies and romances and subplots rather than focus on the thing that actually, you know, INTRUIGED us about the story in the first place.

      I did watch the finale just to see what if anything had been resolved, and have to admit I was somewhat interested in what would happen, since it was actually about the freaking story the whole show was supposed to be about. But no, they decided to leave viewers with a completely unsatisfying show by wasting episode after episode on farmer love triangles while civil war, military coups, and nuclear terrorism in the continental United States were apparently too boring to be dealt with until well after many people had given up on the issues ever being talked about again.

      You know the old joke about IBM marketing would sell sushi by calling it "cold, raw dead fish". CBS apparently hired IBM marketing to write this show because they started with an inherently story-filled premise and managed to fill hour after hour with dull flashbacks on generic midwestern family crap that could have been lifted from episodes of Seventh Heaven.

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    2. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Funny

      Aargh, the more I sit and think the more annoyed I get all over again.

      I just can't imagine sitting around a table in the writer's room and listening to somebody say "Okay, we've blown up all the major cities in the USA, the country is in Civil War, looting and riots are rampant, normal citizens are totally isolated, thrown back into the 19th century ways of living overnight -- but what people want to know is, will Jake hook up with the blonde or the brunette? And what impact would post-apocalyptic panic have on rural thanksgiving celebrations?"

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    3. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by Green+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      yet the show was being "the O.C. after the bomb".

      Don't call it that.

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    4. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh. Sorry.

      How about, "90210 meets Little Boy and the Fat Man"?

    5. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by Car54 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have followed many TV shows over the years....some of the Sci-Fi shows I participated somewhat in their coming back....but without a doubt my fervor and dedication to this show is beyond anything I consider rational. I have sent 3 sets of nuts to CBS. I have called at least 20 times, written 6 letters and postcards, joined about 6 forums, blogs, news sites specifically to stand up for this show returning. Those such as the Anonymous Coward who posted this comment is not a dedicated fan, and that's fine....but despite his feeble attempt to rain on our parade, notice the groundswell of support for bring back Jericho continues to grow....not wane. Any of us could write a plausible ending for the season finale....but that is not what we are fighting for. In part this bad move by CBS taps into all the TV media companies that have crapped on many fans over the years. I have no doubt that the fans will keep growing, and becomine ever more forceful in taking actions to get this great show back.

    6. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The second half of the season didn't deal much with love triangles, rather it focused on the Hawkins character, who was much more interesting than the Jake character.


      See, I had the exact opposite reaction -- I thought the Hawkins character really made the show so silly and artificial that it distracted the writers from the core concept. It's like they had the show ready to go and then they said "But we need a mysterious cryptic character like Locke from LOST!"

      Hawkins seemed to function as a Deus Ex Machina whenever the writers couldn't solve a problem or wanted to throw in a curve ball. Nuclear bombs destroying the country and the survivors having to figure out what to do is really plenty interesting as a premise -- we don't need some guy with super-duper hacking powers, a nuclear bomb and ninja skills (who speaks Chinese and works for the Trilateral Commission) to move into town the day before it all happens.

      And his whole ex-wife and kids drama was just as dull and uninteresting to me as Jake's girl troubles. Adding a ninja ex-girlfriend back from the dead who may be trying to double-cross him while working for the Man in Black is not interesting, it's unnecessary.

      If the writers from Jericho had been in charge of Heroes, they would have spent 7 episodes dealing with Claire and an ex-boyfriend, a pregnancy scare, her mom having an affair, etc. Hiro discovers he can stop time but instead of trying to save the world he spends the first 22 episodes going back to his childhood and crying while watching his father learn to ride a bicycle and wondering why his Mom didn't breast feed him. Syler would have shown up in the last half of the last episode of the season, and the writers would wonder why the show was being canceled.
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    7. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by freakybob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh come on, SOMEONE has to mod that one funny. Topical, too - reference to another cancelled show with a loyal fanbase.

    8. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      And what impact would post-apocalyptic panic have on rural thanksgiving celebrations?

      Actually, that doesn't sound too bad, but the "Blown-the-hell-up-90210" part sounds painful.

      When I saw the stories about this show before it came out, I had no doubt that network television would make a hash of it. I've developed a new procedure for any network-or-cable television shows:

      I don't watch them. THEN, if I start hearing buzz about them being amazing, I'll go back and download the first few episodes via Bittorrent. If they knock me out, I'll download the rest. Usually, by this time, the show is getting ready to go off the air (ala "Deadwood", "The Wire", etc.). Eventually, I catch up until I get to the point, like now, when I download the latest episode of The Sopranos on Monday morning from my trusty BT client.

      It really saves on the cable bill - I don't get one because I don't have cable. Believe me, the worthwhile stuff filters through the great sieve of BitTorrent and I don't find myself on a Saturday afternoon watching some shite made-for-TV nonsense on the Sci-Fi Channel.
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    9. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by sherylb33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe it didn't appeal to you. It did however to 9 million viewers. The rating for the show held steady at number 2 in it's time slot only after AI. Everyone knows that in this day and age the method of rating viewers is broken. They do not count internet viewers, those who watch on Tivo or DVR or on itunes. None of these venues are counted in the 8 million. Today these computer savy viewers need to be counted. Or, do you think that people who take advantage of technology should be cast aside because they live their life and watch TV programs at their convience and not on the networks schedule!! The CBS website for Jericho is the most popular TV websites ever and has been since it was first created. Just so you know I am not gereatric. Although I think that the older viewers are also important comsumers. I think you got the premise of the program all wrong. It is about a small rural community...who is totally cut off from the rest of the country and they have to join together to survive. It is a story of family, friends and neighbors facing and having to survive in this new world that they have directly before them. They are curious about what is going on in other parts of the country but their struggles are for their own community's survival. It is not a story that tell of what's going on in different parts of the country. It is a story of one towns efforts.

    10. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by HeshWasHere · · Score: 2

      Last time I checked, the internet viewers don't get the same commercials as the "live" viewers. DVR's let you fast forward commercials. What's your point? Advertisers should spend more money on their spots based on who watches it on a medium they don't even advertise on? Also last time I checked, other shows also broadcast on the internet so is there any reason to think that more people watched Jericho on the web then let's say Lost? Maybe you understand where I'm coming from, but you probably don't. Here's something for you to try. You probably think they run the same type of commercials on the Oxygen network as they do on MTV. No matter what age, we're all the same type of consumers, right?

    11. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except that in the second half of the season, the truth about Hawkins began coming out and he was no longer a cryptic "Locke" by any means, including WHY the hell he's in Jericho.

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    12. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by dwcarless · · Score: 4, Informative

      1 (and part of 4)) No matter how you cut it, it is a top 50 or top 25 show. At a minimum, it is higher rated than 2/3 of everything else on TV.

      2 Nielsen is obsolete because even if one watches on TV, it could be Tivo'd. Nielsen captures an ever DECREASING portion of televsion viewers -- those that actually sit on a couch and watch a show as it airs. New Media viewers don't schedule their time around a network. Nielsen is a dinosaur in the Old Media world.

      3 There are no stats to argue this, so we will just have to agree to disagree

      4 CBS' crisis is more that 20,000 pounds of peanuts. It is a public releations nightmare. Full page ads are in this coming Tuesday's Variety Weekly and Hollywood Review. News coverage is already jumped to mainstream with ABC and (ironically) all major CBS affliciates running it. Power blogger Michelle Malkin has front paged it, which means Drudge will follow shortly. Love them or hate them, they command 20+ million hits per day between them. CBS is stuck in neutral and cannot pimp their new season lineup until they resolve this.

    13. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by darkmeridian · · Score: 3, Informative

      The parent refers to the following exchange from Arrested Development:

      Tobias Fünke: Michael if I may take off my pants and pull my analrapist stocking over my head, I think George Michael may be suffering from what we in the soft-sciences call "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder", or the "The O.C. Disorder."
      Michael: Don't call it that.

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    14. Re:Jericho *was* Nuts by NMerriam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am guessing that you are not a writer for TV


      I'm guessing you didn't notice the show was canceled. And the number one breakout hit of the season is Heroes, which was written exactly the way Jericho SHOULD have been written -- taking an exciting premise and actually exploring it. Putting normal people we can recognize and identify with and throwing intensely crazy situations at them to see how they handle it. Characters developed over time, reacted to the amazing situation they were in, adapted, acted to try and change things (both for good and ill) and became drivers of the story at some times wile being pulled along by events larger than themselves at others. That's how you write compelling fiction.

      I can't think of any character in Jericho that actually had a decent character arc of any kind, that changed in any significant way. It's a town full of stoic men and women who rise to the situation and have lots of mysterious military training that allows them to solve any problem without having to do any particularly hard work or make any tough choices. We're told through flashbacks that many of them were different people BEFORE the story we're seeing now, but that isn't the same thing as getting to know a character as one thing (and liking or hating them for it) and then watching them grow into something else due to the circumstances and their own choices.

      And yes, I have written fiction professionally before (and will again). I went to school for, among other things, writing. I love purely character-based stories. But you can't spend so much time navel-gazing that you lose track of the actual plot for huge portions of the screen time. You can't sell a story as "The world is going to end in nuclear war! How will America survive?" and then deliver Green Acres crossed with 90210.
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  2. What a waste of food. by dsanfte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously.

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  3. Hyperbole Ho! by richdun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation.

    Stop me when I've mentioned a fan campaign you've actually heard of. Like the campaign to get the third season of the original Star Trek. Or the one that got a Space Shuttle renamed. Or all those DVDs that got Family Guy back in regular episodes and Futurama in direct-to-DVD movies. Or the ridiculous amount of money Save Enterprise raised that threatened to make the fifth season purely on fan money (which, of course, led to all the controversy, but eh).

    TV shows get cancelled. Millions are outraged. Then millions forget until Fox screws up the next show.

    Wait, CBS you say? Weird. The token /. response doesn't work here. I think teh slash-verse is going to assplode!

    1. Re:Hyperbole Ho! by STrinity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just look at what happens to shows that have been "saved" -- the third season of Star Trek contains all the worst episodes, including Spock's Brain and The Children Shall Lead. Battlestar Galactica came back as Galactica 1980, which even the most hardcore fans like to pretend didn't exist. Buffy made the jump to UPN after the WB axed it, and the result was an absolute train-wreck. And the new Family Guy episodes are painfully unfunny.

      Let it go.

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  4. It's a TV Show by techsoldaten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a TV show. Get over it. They cancelled Firefly, now Jericho is gone. As an alternative, these people should consider:

    1) Going to the gym
    2) Taking a loved one out to dinner
    3) Taking up art
    4) Relaxing with friends over the internet
    5) Fixing some of those pesky things around the house
    6) Getting a dog for companionship instead of a television
    7) Volunteering for experiments on drugs to treat obsessive compulsive disorder
    8) Going for a walk in the woods and experiencing nature
    9) Getting a tan

    There are so many other things to do in life that worry about a man soap opera.

    M

    1. Re:It's a TV Show by idonthack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      10. Fix the government
      11. Various charity organizations
      12. Protest something that matters

      and of course

      13. Profit

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    2. Re:It's a TV Show by badasscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      (getting a tan? gee, that's not superficial or anything....)

      The difference is it doesn't cost $19,000 or $26,000 or whatever to get a tan... and if it does, whoever spends that much deserves all the ridicule they get. You could feed a family of four on that much money for a year - and we have no shortage of needy people in this country.

      I'm not the kind of guy that goes around pointing out how all these vanity things we do are bad because that money could be better used elsewhere. Hey, if it makes you feel good, then whatever. But still, there's got to be a limit... a point where you say, "you know, this is kind of a ridiculous; there are more important things to worry about." It's not as if these people are getting anything tangible for their investment. They're sending a corporation a bunch of nuts. At least if you spent $26,000 on a tan, you'd still end up with a tan to show for it. These people may as well have just taken all that money and flushed it down the toilet. And that makes the whole thing kind of offensive.

      I'll bet they're all really proud of themselves too.

    3. Re:It's a TV Show by the_unknown_soldier · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you really want these people trying to fix government?

    4. Re:It's a TV Show by hachete · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, whilst tanning, read a fucking book.

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    5. Re:It's a TV Show by GNious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Current US Government under 9 tonnes of peanuts? .... Not A Bad Idea methinks

      /Nc

    6. Re:It's a TV Show by Bartab · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, whilst tanning, read a fucking book. On skin cancer.

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    7. Re:It's a TV Show by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hmm, you've given me an idea. Every time a politician does something that irritates you, post them a peanut. At the end of their term, they are put into a trebuchet, with the peanuts as the counterweight. Any that survive are permitted to stand for re-election. Any that don't are no longer part of the problem.

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    8. Re:It's a TV Show by GTMoogle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's a surprisingly creative solution. The problem being, of course, that all the politicians will send each other tons of peanuts, and all knowing their impending doom, will unanimously change the law to avoid it.

    9. Re:It's a TV Show by Hawksdomain · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Get a grip people, we all have lives outside of this TV show. This is so much more than just about a show. I'm terribly sorry that you did not stick around to see how the show progressed. Yes, Hawkins girlfriend was a very stupid plot, but thankfully she is now dead.

      A great majority of the contributors to this campaign are business owners/executives. We are mostly comprised of very intelligent people, such as yourselves, which was why I was originally thrilled to learn we had made our mark here.... until I started reading all of this bashing.

      Our movement is to speak out against 'the man' for all of this ridiculous programming. Most especially - REALITY TV. How lame can it get? Jericho is being replaced by a show about 40 CHILDREN, UNSUPERVISED, in New Mexico rebuilding a ghost town. My first thought is that these parents should be shot for allowing their children to take part in such a stupid idea. Jericho was only one of two shows that I watched on network TV. Yes, the other is Lost, come on, did you catch that season finale this week??

      The next 'serialized' show that CBS will be bringing out mid season is called 'Swingtown'. Not swingsets or swingshifts, mind you, but a show about swingers in the 1970s. OK, the 1970s was known as the sexual revolution but I have a lot of arguments about this craziness. First, the demographics CBS is trying to reach by canceling Jericho - most weren't even born in the '70s yet! I was born in the early 70s and there is no way I could've been involved in any type of sexual revolution at the time! Who cares what a bunch of disco loving freaks were doing? Second, and even more importantly.... What about the FAMILIES who were watching Jericho. Do you really think that parents are going to want to sit there with their children to watch such an inappropriate show? My gawd! I'm in my mid 30s and wouldn't want to watch such a show with my parents!!

      Quality TV is dead. Jericho was original, had a good plot and action. Was not sexually explicit, no excessive language, and aside from the obvious, did not have any graphic violence. It was a wonderful family show. These TV execs have got to get a freaking clue. That is what this movement is about.

      Yes, I love this show. It was awesome. I could care less about who Jake ends up with... blonde or brunette... And, I am a woman. I want to know who wins the war. I want to know how the town will survive the next year - six months - whatever. I want to know WHO exactly dropped the bomb. I want to know if Jericho and others will be able to defeat this new government with the messed up flag and the man who seems to be the one behind the dropping of the bomb. I want to know who is on the train. I want to know how Hawkins is going to deal with them in a tank with no ammo. Put the blonde and brunette together, that will grab most of you driveling men. Just send Jake back out there to fight and save his town!

      This is why we are sending nuts to CBS. And, as was pointed out above, the nuts are going to various charities. To the troops overseas, to the Bronx Zoo, to the homeless shelters. This has been at the request of the fans sending the nuts, as well as the company that is backing the campaign so fervently, www.nutsonline.com

      OK, my last point, I promise. Recently we saw the end ratings for the season of the network shows. I don't recall the link, but it was on the Hollywood Reporter website. CBS renewed the stupid sitcom 'How I Met Your Mother' and it performed MUCH WORSE than Jericho. Don't tell me that this is business. This is plain-ass stupid!

      Now if a simple girl from Kansas can fight for America's values and try to squash this nightmare of American Idol, why can't you?

    10. Re:It's a TV Show by mark_0945 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This fight to Save Jericho is about larger issues. Too long Nielsen's flawed ratings system has controlled what is aired in North America and it's about time this ends. Jericho is quality television....... you can say what you will about television but it effects everyone's life in North America even if they don't watch it. As for that American Idol crap it's not only effecting television negatively it's also effecting music negatively.... Yeah fighting to save Jericho has bigger impact than just getting the show back on the air.

    11. Re:It's a TV Show by dbIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do you really want these people trying to fix government?

      No - I think vetinarians should do it so it would be less cruel - although some skilled farm workers with those special pliers or rubber rings would be just as good.

    12. Re:It's a TV Show by sherylb33 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think that maybe you missed the point on this. We are parents of five children ages 10 to 17. We monitor very closely what is viewed on the TV in our home. Jericho is the only prime time program that we have watched this year. As a mother, I was impressed that the writers were able to write story lines that appealed to every member of our family and I was even more impressed with the fact that they were able to write Jericho without putting in language and content that would have made me cringe and turn off the TV. Our children are involved in many activities such as sports programs, music lessons, dance lessons (for the girl's)and they are all on the honor roll at school. We also go out to dinner occasionaly and they all attend youth group meetings and activities at our church. I am proud to say that my family is one of the many who are joining this campaign to save Jericho. We need to let the entertainment industry know that we want quality programming. We have limited amounts of time for TV in our schedules.....and during that time we want interesting and entertaining programs to enjoy.

    13. Re:It's a TV Show by vorpal22 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The viewers made an investment of their time and effort (i.e. arranging their schedule to watch their show). While the networks are under no obligation to do so, if they feel compelled to cancel a show, it would be respectful to their viewers to produce one more episode to wrap things up as best as possible and bring completion to the series as opposed to leaving it hanging and unresolved.

    14. Re:It's a TV Show by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "As an alternative, these people should consider"

      Why are you wasting your time posting on here instead of doing any of the things you have listed, hypocrite?

    15. Re:It's a TV Show by prelelat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hate reality tv more than most people. I never watched survivor I never got into american idol or any other crappy show like that. I could never figure out why when you wanted to relax you would want to watch a show where normal people were freaking out. I would prefer to watch mcgiver do something totaly crazy with a paper clip.

      But I got to thinking a month or two back about American Idol in particular and how it was crappy. Then it came to me, I don't think its that bad of a concept. How is it worse than having a Britney Spears? I started to compare the two, instead of having someone who can't hold a note sing pop music you now have a nation wide contest to see who can and make them into a pop star. Now I'm not a pop music fan, it's not my thing. But I would much rather have someone whos gone through a national talent search singing then some girl with big boobs whos gone through 100 hours of mixing at a studio to sound good.

      So while I do agree that its shitty television, I would not say its hurting the music industry as much as mixing a crappy singer to sound good. Also you at least get to vote to say this person sucks. Some of them do have talent they just don't sing like AC/DC.

    16. Re:It's a TV Show by techsoldaten · · Score: 2, Interesting

      With all due respect, it's because it's entertainment. I mean, I am involved in a lot of political causes and fully realize that the drama of them is hardly any different from getting caught up in a TV show. That said, there's the potential for what I am doing to make a difference in someone's life in some small way. If I was spending the same time watching TV, I know the greatest potential there is for my butt to get fatter. On a basic level, that's what bothers people about this.

      At a higher level, protesting the actions of a television network is really bothersome when compared to the actions of Americans in regards to actual real world events. When the government suspended habeus corpus for people accused of terrorism, where were the nuts? Who was sending stuff like this to Congress to tell them we did not appreciate what they were doing? When the DMCA passed, who was sending nuts to their politicians?

      It's just surprising to see what is essentially online politicial activism directed towards a piece of entertainment. Bless you for standing up for something you believe in, now let's go get mobilized to get our boys home from Iraq, the price of gasoline down, living wages for all Americans, universal health care or whatever it is you care about besides TV.

      M

  5. Congrats to the NutsOnline guy by TodMinuit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He found a way to make a buck out of a canceled show. My hats off to him.

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    1. Re:Congrats to the NutsOnline guy by kinabrew · · Score: 4, Informative
      Actually, on the nutsonline page, he says

      Hello Jericho lovers!

      From a few orders, to a few more orders, to a few emails, to a lot more emails, we suddenly found ourselves in the middle of a campaign to support a show we had never even watched before
  6. would poor people in Darfur eat peanuts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, I wonder...maybe that would be a better use than bringing back a freakin' network TV show. Our culture is soo narcissistic and self-centered. Don't mod this down...leave it alone at the most, but what I'm writing is unavoidably true.

  7. This got by the editors? by MonGuSE · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm sorry but the campaign to save the StarTrek Enterprise series for a 5th year was far larger. This quick search garnered a BBC News story showing over 3million US raised and if my memory serves correctly the fans were close to 20 million before being told that there was no way ?paramount? would run another series without an industry backer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4312767.s tm

  8. Man that's a shock by edwardpickman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jericho had fans?

  9. Fortunately... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...it was "Nuts!" and not "Crap!"

    1. Re:Fortunately... by basic0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would have been interested to see how this campaign would have played out if it had been "Fuck!"

    2. Re:Fortunately... by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Probably successfully.

  10. Witness the fall of the Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow. Thousands of Americans are dying in a foreign war that by all accounts we are not doing well in, and the opposition party is much less concerned with fixing the problem than making political hay. Our health care system is a shambles. A major American city is also still in shambles more than a year after an enormous natural disaster.

    After all that, what makes Americans stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" but a canceled television show.

    My fellow citizens, and all you others, I fear that this may be a grave sign of the failure of the American Experiment.

    1. Re:Witness the fall of the Republic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To quote from memory: "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of wealth; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill

      Forgive me if I butchered it. ;)

    2. Re:Witness the fall of the Republic by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      After all that, what makes Americans stand up and say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" but a canceled television show. Perhaps it is because 'the people' feel like they have more chance of changing the cancellation of a TV show than they do have of changing the course of direction that their government takes.
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    3. Re:Witness the fall of the Republic by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's funny you should mention that. 'The People' get to vote for their government, not their television. It's funny you should mention that. The powers that be present two nearly identical candidates on television and 'the people' get to vote for the one they like the most, really doesn't sound very empowering.
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    4. Re:Witness the fall of the Republic by gilroy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's funny you should mention that. 'The People' get to vote for their government, not their television.

      It's funny you should mention that. The powers that be present two nearly identical candidates on television and 'the people' get to vote for the one they like the most, really doesn't sound very empowering.

      And that's why it's the end of the Republic -- because the citizenry accepts that. Despite overheated claims on both sides, most elections in America are in fact legal and fair. It isn't Soviet Russia where there are insurmountable legal barriers to running. But Americans don't care enough (or don't have enough faith or whatever) to demand real choices and real candidates -- or, for that matter, even to run for office on any level. Most people just want to feel their opinion is heard somewhere. Democracy is hard work and touch-tone dialing the latest American Idol null poll is easy.

      People say they don't vote because the system is unresponsive. But in fact, the system is unresponsive because they don't vote.

      There's also a horizon problem, in that most Americans want a payoff within a short time period -- an hour, tops, but preferably before the end of the next commercial break. Real change takes time, as real systems have social inertia. So we can't be bothered to focus on any process long enough to achieve real success.

      But in the end, the hell of it is, this truly is a representative democracy. We get exactly whom we deserve, and they're Just Like Us. More's the pity.
  11. What about farscape? by Da+w00t · · Score: 4, Informative

    "This is expected to become the largest ever fan campaign to bring a television show back from cancellation."

    I've never seen Jericho, and I bet the series is great, (I just watch very little TV nowadays) but

    This makes me wonder how this will compare to the "save farscape" media frenzy that lots and lots of 'scapers took action to get Sci-Fi's rectal-cranial inversion syndrome diagnosed, and cured. It was on CNN Headline News for chrissakes!

    All in all, I'll probally check out Jericho now. Good luck to all the Jericho fans, I hope you get your show back.

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  12. bah by INeededALogin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Talk to me in 3.5 years and lets see if Jericho is still in the top 100 of amazon sales.

  13. Re:Did you know... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know! I have a friend that can't be in the same room with them. They're the devils testicles, they are!

  14. Let it rest in peace by Lurker2288 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I enjoyed the show, but I feel okay that it ended where it did. The so-called cliffhanger pretty well summed up the whole spirit of the show: stuff's really messed up, some people will descend into savagery, but others will hang together and try to keep things soldiering on. Sure, if they did decide to bring it back, we might learn how that final battle would have ended, but where to from there? Better to end on something of a high point* than to fizzle through a second, lackluster season.

    *I say something of a high point because upon reviewing, it's clear how much better the early episodes were compared to the later ones. The more we learned about the bombs and the plot behind them, the less interesting the whole story became.

  15. The 3 paths to cancelation by Nymz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Watered-down - If a show is good, and gets good ratings, TPTB will require more seasons to be produced, than can be reasonably sustained at the same quality of the current story arc.

    Word-of-Mouth - If a show is good, but gets so-so ratings in the begining, TPTB will cancel it before word of mouth can have an effect.

    Sabotage - If any show is sabotaged by TPTB then there is no saving it. Examples are playing episodes out or order, or postponing the 2-hour premiere that introduces all the characters, to air as the season finale.

  16. The big insult... by TobyRush · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...isn't that CBS cancelled the show, but that it's being axed to make room for New Insipid Reality Show #462 and "Ooh! Pirates!"

    The "Tiffany Network," eh?

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  17. Funny enough submission by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Funny
    I haven't sen the show, but this was a good laugh... What arw you going to do with all those peanuts? Throw a humungous party? Just get a Beer sponsor and throw a party!

    On the other hand - one series that I'm missing is Max Headroom, it's dark, it's about a near future and it's all about money, media companies, viewer figures and shady affairs. (Sounds familiar?)

    It may be time to pick up the show again - the old episodes are a little outdated; no internet, no flat-screen TV:s etc.

    But on the other hand RIAA and MPAA may not want to see this...

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  18. Mod up by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 2, Informative

    Parent is right. And this is no ordinary "don't you have better things to do with your time/money" troll. It's not like it's that much more effort to send food to the needy via a charity. After all, it is only a TV show...

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  19. The "Nuts" reference - Battle of the Bulge by Etherwalk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Brigadier General Anthony McAuliffe was the acting commander of the 101st Airborne Division in the Battle of Bastongne during the Battle of the Bulge. The 101st was surrounded, outnumbered, and unable to get resupply by air. When Axis forces demanded their surrender, McAuliffe's one-word response was "Nuts."

    Obviously, after sixty years, this necessarily led to trying to save a canceled show with peanuts.

  20. You Fools! by SQL+Error · · Score: 4, Funny

    Peanuts are legumes!

    The TV industry will never take us seriously now. :(

  21. Holland style Hurricane Protection? by McDutchie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its all aout priorities, but on New Orleans, I sincerely think that reconstruction of that city is a vain task unless it will recieve Proper (Holland style) Category 5 Hurricane Protection.

    Holland style? I would hope not, as Holland doesn't get any hurricanes. That's a good thing too, because we'd be well and truly fucked if we did.

  22. Fuck Jericho by AdmiralWeirdbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll go one step further and say what needs to be said here.

    Fuck Jericho.

    Interesting premise?
    yes

    Interesting execution?
    Not from the first fucking episode.

    Friends of mine were obsessed with Jericho, but jesus, Jericho's writers couldnt write drama for shit.
    Not even deaf meghan could save it for me, and she's fucking awesome.

    'OMG, the world is coming to an end! but wait, you know what's even more interesting? bland interpersonal drama and bullshit quasi-moralistic plotlines and the melodramitcist of all melodramatic skeet ulrich performances!'

    Dont care... dont care... *DONT* *CARE*

    Fuck Jericho. With so much *decent* television on, its no wonder that CBS decided to pull a fox and replace a lackluster, if rabidly followed and obsessed over by its 3 fans, serial drama with a REALITY SHOW ABOUT CHILDREN BEING LEFT TO RUN A TOWN BY THEMSELVES. Yes, Jericho got replaced with Lord of The Flies 2: Electric Booglaloo: Lord of The Flies Reality TV.

    Yes, this is flamebait.
    Yes, I'm an asshole.
    But,
    No, I'm not wrong.
    Fuck Jericho.

    Shomer-FUCKING-shabbas!

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  23. Re:someone has to say it: by murderlegendre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh sure, In Soviet Russia, nuts send CBS to you!

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  24. Re:Its not going to waste by mdarksbane · · Score: 3, Funny

    So how long until a homeless guy who is allergic to peanuts sues CBS?

  25. Hate Jericho fans? Why? by roundrockhorn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To all the haters, we get your point. I would remind each of you however that many years ago a letter writing campaign saved a show called Star Trek and got it two more seasons. Back then, that was unheard of but today campaigns of this nature (Save Jericho) and size are also unheard of. I'd like to remind the posters here that were it not for shows like Star Trek, a lot of our technological comforts might not exist today. Star Trek caused people to think about the technology involved and inspired generations of fans to create, explore and experiment with new technologies.

    In a very loose comparison, Jericho has also caused many people to stop and think. In a world that is often times uncertain, Jericho took us away from our usual worries and got us to examine ourselves a little more closely.

    In a world gone completely mad, the residents of Jericho struggled to keep their humanity about them. What would any of us do in the same situation? The show challenged us to think about just such a possibility. I grew up in the Cold War era and I remember a movie called The Day After. Back then, we had to think about a full out Nuclear War. Today we have to think about dirty bombs. Not much difference is there?

    So, while you may hate the fans of this show for trying to save it, remember that a movement like this can show what's best about humanity because we have pulled together people from all over the free world and united them in one common voice. We've done it faster than anyone ever has and in larger numbers as well. CBS wanted to reach the 18-49 market and with new delivery methods like the Internet. They did reach us, but failed to recognize it and canceled our show. Now, we will fight to get it back and no ammount of criticism will impede us from finishing what we started. Keep hating our movement if you must, but we'll keep on truckin'.

    20,000lbs of nuts, an ad in Variety and The Hollywood Insider, articles in the NYT, ABCnews.com, E!, syfiportal and countless local media outlets have been the first wave of our voices being heard. We know that they are being heard b/c the cBS execs have failed to strike the sets and have stopped returning the rented props for the show. Thanks to slashdot for helping us get the word out.

    If you are interested in seeing what the show is about go to cbs.com\jericho and watch the episodes. If you lost interest in the middle of the season, go watch the second helf...it was really good. The love triangle is just a natural part of humantiy in a situation like that and was a part of the show...like it or not. It is resolved, and they move on in the second part of the season.

    Save Jericho
    NUTS to cBS
    Thanks to nutsonline.com
    jerichorallypoint.com
    Shaun O'Mac and his radio show
    and countless others who are working tirelessly to coordinate our campaign.

    Joint the fight...it's not too late.

  26. Re: and there is no way I could've been involved by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, the 1970s was known as the sexual revolution but I have a lot of arguments about this craziness. First, the demographics CBS is trying to reach by canceling Jericho - most weren't even born in the '70s yet! I was born in the early 70s and there is no way I could've been involved in any type of sexual revolution at the time!

    Um... you could be a product of it

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  27. Re:Hate Jericho fans? Why? by Rachelb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree with you. Jericho was one of the only shows on tv I could actually watch with my family. I am sick of reality shows and the mindless fluff the networks want me to watch. Finally, we had an action-packed, thought-provoking drama. I loved the show, love the characters and feel that we are being cheated by this cancellation. The network put it on the airs, got me interested and watching then they pull the plug. The show did better in the ratings than many others that actually were renewed for another season. I think this campaign gives tv viewers an ideal place to make their voices heard. We have had enough. We want our show back. I think the people taking part in this are terrific. To those who see this as a waste of time, please go save the world on the 'politics' section. Oh, and by the way, Fighting for a tv show does not stop you from fighting for more 'worthwhile' causes.

  28. Weeds by silentbob_midway · · Score: 3, Funny

    Remember the cliffhanger from the season 2 finale of Weeds? Maybe Showtime will cancel Weeds to see what the fans will send in....

  29. Kung Pow, anyone? by Vituperator · · Score: 2, Funny

    Chosen one: I'll take a pound of nuts. Shopkeeper: *yelling* That's a lot of nuts! That'll be four bucks, baby! You want fries with that?!?

  30. each to their own by loosestones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have been reading many of the comments over the Jericho issue the last week and, not that I am not singling you out specifically as you comments are somewhat benign, but I feel I must add my thoughts to the issue. It seems many feel Jericho should be cancelled because they do not like it. Surely this is the wrong reason. I own the DVD of Sliders, Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, Lone Gunmen, Harsh Realm, Outer Limits, Dead Like Me, Firefly, Deep Space 9 ... and the list continues. I obviously have a preference for certain story lines. My daughter and I have similar tastes, but some of the shows she likes ... well I would sooner have my teeth removed. I am sure the same is true for her on some shows I watch.

    In many of these series the stories weakened and they eventually disappeared, but for the most part I faithfully watched them and held out hope they would improve. Ironically StarGate SG1 was one of those shows I hated during the first, fifth and ninth seasons, but eventually I found the story improved making the wait worth while. You mention Sliders, I can't stand it, any season, but my daughter likes it. I hated Enterprise when it started, and my daughter loved it; by the end of the forth season when it was cancelled I was a regular and she was on itunes.

    My wife thinks both my daughter and I are crazy. She like American Idol, and Dancing with the Stars, but hates so you think you can dance. I only watch these shows with her when forced to do so. Ironically none of us have ever felt a need to publically criticize the other's taste in entertainment. For a fact we help each other see our favorite shows.

    So it was with Jericho, my daughter and I have both taken an interest in the show. The characters presented are like my neighbors. Yes my neighbors can be boring, but surprising when place in difficult situations. People tend to look for emotional support during crisis times, love triangles are not unreasonable even if you do not like them. Having characters that are "normal" is so far from the daily TV that has presented to us over the last 30 years, it is not surprising many individuals lost interest. It is hard to compare the Jericho characters to the likes of those portrayed on WKRP, Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld, or the drama of the Survivor Outhouse series, CSI everywhere, and Law and Order.

    I like shows that when I am done viewing them, my imagination is stimulated. Usually I prefer shows not too close to reality. It was a surprise to me when Jericho hit my list of shows to watch. The events Jericho portrays could happen and that disturbs me. Jericho's portrayal of the bombings is no more unreasonable than the Lone Gunmen's portrayal of a plane flying into the world trade center months before it actually happened. Good people in the story die, some individuals abuse power, and it is up to the average person to set things right again. This sound like life to me. For some viewers this story line was boring, the actors sucked, the writing was weak, or it was too disturbing, but for 8 million viewers it is the right story to watch.

    Because of the conflict of scheduling at CBS and my personal activities I was unable to watch Jericho when it was aired, so my daughter recorded it. Before Jericho was cancelled, several of my friends said they stopped watching it because they wanted to see and record American Idol more. They asked to borrow my recordings so they could catch up. I say this does not sound like a show that lost huge support, but one that died because it was not strong enough to gain support when pitted against one of the strongest shows on TV. This schedule was really unfair to the writers actors and viewers of the show. The time slot along with the season splitting doomed the show and those of us who viewed Jericho know this and that is why CBS is in our bad books.

    You might be right, and a second season may perform worse than the first, but without the chance to prove itself we will never know. This is a dra

  31. Jericho *was* Nuts by dutch13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thankfully, most of the folks fighting for Jericho are not quitters. Jericho is just a television show. Everyone watches television....we just want to watch something that entertains us. We don't want to be spoonfed crap reality tv. I am tired of seeing shows about doctors and lawyers banging each other. I am tired of watching 6 different versions of CSI or Law and Order. I pay for cable, I would like there to be something that makes you anticipate next week's episode.....without it being about who is banging who. Your grandparents grew up and were entertained by serial dramas on the radio......we just want a decent serial drama in our lives. Lost is fine.....but we liked JERICHO and we are fighting for it. If you are satisfied with bashing people on a website....great, more power to you. We, though, are joining together to try and achieve a change. Sit back and snipe from your computer.....or be a part of something. http://nutsonline.com/jericho