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Fan Fiction Writers Balk at FanLib.com

bill jackson writes "A couple of former Yahoo execs are trying to create the next MySpace by aggregating fanfiction on a website called FanLib. But the fanfic writers recognized that exploitation was written all over the idea and they've refused to participate. 'Instead of creating the Myspace of fanfic since the launch two weeks ago, FanLib.com sparked a white-hot Internet firestorm.The meltdown is a hard lesson in how not to conduct business on the Internet.But it's a firestorm of FanLib's own making because, in spite of the Yahoo pedigree (or maybe because of it), they plowed in like china shop bulls.'"

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  1. Oh fuck by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 5, Funny

    The fanfic crowd is riled up. Everyone take cover!

  2. They tried to herd cats by sehlat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and got themselves clawed.

    I suspect an awful lot of the negative reaction comes from three factors:

    1. Membership in the site would certainly have a "We own your postings." clause in the Terms of Service.

    2. *And* a "We reserve the right to censor anything you post we don't like." clause.

    and the cherry on top:

    3. An unwritten consequence of (1) would be: "If it's really good, we'll use it to make money. Thanks suckers." clause.

    And just remember, in Hollywood, "Trust us." translates to "F**k you."

    1. Re:They tried to herd cats by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

      I suspect an awful lot of the negative reaction comes from three factors: 1. Membership in the site would certainly have a "We own your postings." clause in the Terms of Service.

      "At FanLib, we expect you to post the content you create ("Your Content") on the website. You keep any and all rights to Your Content. FanLib does not own any rights to Your Content."


      2. *And* a "We reserve the right to censor anything you post we don't like." clause.

      "FanLib encourages and supports active and open publication of fan fiction in a lawful and civil manner. We do not monitor the FanLib Website for inappropriate content or conduct"

      (The only "we reserve the right to remove..." they give as part of that applies to outright illegal content).


      3. An unwritten consequence of (1) would be: "If it's really good, we'll use it to make money. Thanks suckers." clause.

      "You authorize FanLib to make, reproduce, distribute, and display these summaries or descriptions on FanLib.com or through its services but not for any other purpose unrelated to FanLib.com. If you mark any of Your Content private, we will not promote and/or showcase Your Content."



      I consider myself about as anti-corporate as they come, but I really can't see the fuss over FanLib's TOS. It pretty much addresses every concern you raised.

    2. Re:They tried to herd cats by SkipRosebaugh · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, that's the face they present to the writers.

      Check out the face they present to the publishers: http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/005131.html

  3. Don't know about quality by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Interesting
    But these are the numbers off the front page for quantity:
    1. Harry Potter (514)
    2. Stargate: SG-1 (159)
    3. CSI (153)
    4. Supernatural (153)
    5. Stargate: Atlantis (140)
    6. Star Wars (136)
    7. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer (135)
    8. Battlestar Galactica: 2003 (115)
    9. X-Men: The Movie (107)
    10. Original Fandom (103)
    11. Thunderbirds (94)
    12. West Wing (92)
    13. Lord of the Rings (86)
    14. Gilmore Girls (85)
    15. Star Trek: Enterprise (84)
    16. Pirates of the Caribbean (76)
    17. X-Men: Evolution (62)
    18. Sailor Moon (61)
    19. Friends (60)
    20. Naruto (53)

    2500+ odd stories in 2 weeks certainly makes one wonder if some of the fanfictioners didn't get the memo that they were supposed to be ticked.

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  4. It was a dark and stormy afternoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ScuttleMonkey was manning the Slashdot queue. "Fan Fiction Writers Balk at FanLib.com" suddenly appeared amid a sea of more interesting stories, but ScuttleMonkey knew this was his next frontpager. He always knew, even before he was an editor. Minutes before the story was set to go live, CmdrTaco saw it and ran, if you can call it that, down the hallway. "STOP!" he screamed. "This is a terrible story! You must remove it." ScuttleMonkey pulled out a knife, stabbing Taco in the heart before he had a chance to react. "Remove that, Taco!" cried ScuttleMonkey as he watched the story go live.

  5. Re:LJ by minkowski · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the most comprehensive and informative link I've seen on that. And Boingboing picked the story up this morning. I heard from a friend in a fanfic community there that they were deleting journals just because the keywords "rape" or "incest" were used in the interests field. So the journals of some rape victims and incest survivors were suddenly terminated.

    I don't know why slashdot hasn't picked it up. This place is so slow. Digg and Reddit already have stories about it which are getting voted up and should be on the front page by this evening

  6. We haven't heard from everyone... by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quite frankly, I won't form an opinion until we've heard an official response from the most influential contingent in fan-fiction:

    Furries.

    Without their unique insight into subjects like "Kirk romances a full sized Gadget from Chip n' Dale's Rescue Rangers" or "What would happen if the crew of the NX-01 were anthropomorphic animals and there's maybe a crossover with the X-Men why not?", we would have no way of knowing what we did and didn't like about the various trek series, and, by extension, an online repository of stories.

    So count me out until the "Commander Troi as a sexy lemur" crowd weighs in, THEN I'll know what to think.

  7. This is why I don't have a journal... by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...on a website I don't control.

    Invariably, when a site gets popular, it attracts the attention of people who would like to ruin your shit. Things like this happen.

    Don't rely on third parties if you have speech you want to protect.

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