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Indecent Game Sales Now A Felony In New York

Gamespot reports on the final passing of New York senate bill A8696, legislation proposed just last week, that now makes it a serious felony to sell or rent a violent game to minors. The bill makes it illegal to sell a console without parental control options and establishes a group to second guess the ESRB's rating decisions. "'This bill is impermissibly vague,' EMA president Bo Andersen said in a statement. 'A8696 seeks to apply real-world standards of violence to the fictional and fanciful world of video games, an environment in which they have no meaning. As a result, retailers and clerks will not and cannot know with certainty which video games could send them to jail under A8696. It was depressing to hear members of the Assembly note the constitutional problems with the bill and then state that they were voting for it.'" The senate seems to have no fear of possible overturn of the bill, and claims it's only thinking of the children.

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  1. Wow. cigs and beee by Broken+scope · · Score: 5, Insightful

    sold to a minor don't even warrant a class E felony, and they have prove harmful effects.

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    1. Re:Wow. cigs and beee by Lightwarrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but the NY Senate is thinking of the children. That's more important than any study, or even the proven fact that the courts will knock this bill down faster than you can say "waste of taxpayer dollars."

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  2. Yeah, It Won't Be Overturned by dctoastman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just ruled unconstitutional. C'mon, a "serious felony". What about movies with equivalent ratings? And books. Books have no rating systems at all. My six year old niece can go and buy any Diane Steel or Stephen King book and I would not recommend either to an immature audience.

    1. Re:Yeah, It Won't Be Overturned by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it's not Congress making a law, I don't understand how it's unconstitutional.

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  3. A felony?!? by Winckle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not a citizen of the USA, but I thought felonies were very serious crimes, like assault, or bodily harm. Not selling violent video games to children, yeah, it's probably a "bad" thing to do, but making it a felony seems a bit over the top.

    1. Re:A felony?!? by Tridus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All you have to know to understand Americans these days (particularly politicians) is that they've lost all ability to view things in perspective. Thats why every time something new is made illegal (especially if its completely innane, like this), the sentences for breaking said law are so completely out of line as to be laughable. Just wait, pretty soon pirating a HD DVD will be right up there with rape (if its not there already).

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    2. Re:A felony?!? by oGMo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just wait, pretty soon pirating a HD DVD will be right up there with rape (if its not there already).

      I believe rape gets you 3-5 years, whereas copyright violation can get you 10 and a $250k-per-incident fine. Just goes to show what our politicians really value.

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  4. Re:politicians. by faloi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's funny, in a sick way, that a lot of the politicians that are quick to place restrictions on video games and music seemingly don't care a bit about violence in the entertainment industry. Like everything else, you only need to look at the money to figure out why.

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  5. Re:politicians. by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or violence in real life. For that they sell yellow ribbon bumper stickers.

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  6. Re:Just stop at parental controls. by mulvane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing!! That is just the solution actually.. Leave the parenting to the parent and make parents responsible. Sadly, most parents want it the other way around anymore.
    Who has time to be bothered by a troublesome kid.
    Sure glad the kids at school, now I can have some peace.
    Isn't there some kind of camp or afterschool activity I can send my kid to
    Why don't you go play over at some one elses house

    Parents don't raise their kids anymore, they expect government to do it, and government in turn wants to put THEIR religious and moral beliefs on our children, and punish the parents who disagree with THEIR views.

  7. Re:politicians. by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or, God forbid we actually try implementing some reasonable restrictions on handgun ownership in this country. Because, after all, if we did, then we'd turn into a totalitarian dictatorship where violent crime would be even worse, just like what happened Canada.

  8. Screw the children, think of the adults. by Blackknight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one that's tired of having their life inconvenienced for everybody's else's children? It's not my fault you're too lazy to watch what your kids are buying/playing. Why is the New York legislature even wasting time on this?

  9. Classic systems have no parental controls.. by LordJezo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The NES, SNES, Genesis, Atari, Game Boy, etc.

    None of them have parental controls. Does that mean selling classic systems is illegal? Or do the old ones get grandfathered in?

  10. I know this sounds wrong... by brkello · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but I am beginning to hate the children. They keep getting in the way of all our fun. Maybe we should have less children so we don't have to think of them so much.

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  11. Alternatives for Kids' Free Time by Phoenix666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thinking of the children...I live in New York and I'd far prefer kids and teens spending their free time indoors playing a violent video game like GTA than hanging out outside spraying graffiti, destroying property, or any of the much worse things they get into when they are bored and have time on their hands.

    Sure, there are some kids who'll go pick up a DIY radio kit, code, or play basketball in their free time. But judging from the kids on my block in Brooklyn there are plenty who are not adept enough or self-motivated enough to do those things, but quite capable of doing harm if not directed or distracted.

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  12. Re:politicians. by nickname225 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you really think that you can "contain an errant government by force"? The right to gun ownership might have made sense as bar against government overreaching in the 18th Century - but today - there is no way you or me or any 10,000 of our friends together can stand up to the government in armed rebellion. The armament gap between governments and citizens has now increased to the point where citizens might as well be unarmed, naked and crippled if they go up against government troops. The best you could hope to do is wage an annoying guerrilla war and pick off a few soldiers before they kill you. Don't be encouraged by the success of the Iraqis. They are only doing as well as they are because of U.S. unwillingness to be seen using excessive force - not a likelihood in the case of internal rebellion.

  13. Re:politicians. by John+Betonschaar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If what you call 'personal freedom' is so aptly represented by the right to bear firearms, I'd say you have a really strange idea of 'freedom'. IMO the most important representatives of personal freedom are freedom of speech, freedom of thought, political preferences, sexual preferences, the right to decide what you do with your own property, the right to proper health care and education, even for the less wealthy, etc. etc. etc. Guns of all things *don't even occur to me* when thinking of personal freedom...

    Still, the USA are famous for their bad public health care for large groups of people, their hypocritcal views on sexuality and different sexual preferences, strong commercial lobbies that dictate politics instead of common sense, government censorship, irrational soft drugs (why is smoking a joint not'personal freedom') and alcohol policy and so on. Yet the *one* thing that virtually no 'free people' from other parts of the world (the right to have guns) care about, seems to be the only fucking thing that matters when it comes down to 'freedom'.

    You just enjoy your guns... err.. freedom...