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A Geek On Everest

mysterious_mark writes "Recently I was recruited by Altitude Films to be the IT geek for a filming expedition to the north side of Mount Everest. I have written an account of my experience. It is a tale of high latency, low bandwidth, blown hard drives, and frozen fingers. Summit day is June 14th. See the expedition's site for the overall picture (caution: total Flash site)."

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  1. New RFC by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    ip over sherpa carriers with quality of service

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    1. Re:New RFC by lpangelrob · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hear they're extending the avian carrier transmission protocol to cover sherpas, while crafting an extension of the protocol to allow llamas and other hoofed animals...

    2. Re:New RFC by Jeek+Elemental · · Score: 5, Funny

      to get on sherpa shitlist, ping -f basecamp

    3. Re:New RFC by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Funny

      It would still be more dependable than Verizon.

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  2. Man ... by iknowcss · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it was me, I wouldn't have filmed on the side of Mt. Everest. If I ever get the time and money, I'm going to climb to the top of The Mountain with a laptop and a monster of a directional wifi antenna, sit at its peak, come to slashdot, and comment "frist pots frum EVEREST."

    You will all envy me. Or mod me as troll. I'M THE MOUNTAIN TROLL.

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    1. Re:Man ... by NMerriam · · Score: 3, Interesting

      and comment "frist pots frum EVEREST."


      I know I posted on Slashdot from Everest back in 1999, I suspect it was frist. It probably had nothing to do with Everest -- it's a place with lots of hurry up and wait (and I do know they rejected my story on our mission, bastards!).
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  3. What an Elite Article! by Luscious868 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:

    .. I would join up with an elite crew of climbers, cameramen and production personnel ...

    ... we had both a production leader, Anthony Geffen, world renowned documentary producer, and elite climber, ...

    ... I teamed up with gadget guru and professional climber, Kevin Thaw (http://www.kevinthaw.com), often heralded as Britain's best all-round climber ...

    ... where we found our complimentary skills and synergy allowed us to produce top quality work ...

    ... We endured torrential downpours and hacked with machetes for days through triple canopy rain forest ...

    ... As for myself, I had a variety of skills that led to my recruitment for this project ...

    Apparently all he's missing a cape with a big fat S on his chest.

  4. How's that site look on the mountain... by neurovish · · Score: 4, Funny

    (caution: total Flash site) Because nothing says "high latency, low bandwidth" like flash!
  5. I don't want to be an ass ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't want to sound like an ass but they're only currently at an advanced base camp according to their flash site. They've traveled (vertically) 1,200m so far and they have another 2,400m to go. It only gets worse and steeper the higher up you climb too. So you've spent 30 days so far according to your clock & you want to hit that summit by June 14th? Good luck and may god (of your choice) be with you, hundreds of people have lost their lives due to stupidity & ill preparation.

    I can't say I've ever done anything like this, though I've read a lot of books about it. For public consumption, I heavily recommend "Into the Wild" by Jon Krakauer. Read it before the movie comes out--movies are always so much worse than books.

    1. Re:I don't want to be an ass ... by u-bend · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think his Everest book was "Into Thin Air". I haven't read either, but worked in a bookstore when they were popular, and they are supposed to be very readable.
      :)

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  6. Stay warm! by Billosaur · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Laptop computers provide most of the computer power we need on the mountain but they have to stay lower on the mountain, at or below advanced base camp at 21,000 feet. For redundancy we brought three laptops, all different brands, just in case one particular brand proved problematic. The primary mode of failure for laptops in this environment is hard drive failure since hard drives rely upon the viscosity of air to provide lubrication and damping among the moving parts, the same manner that oil provides lubrication and damping for moving machine or engine parts.

    And depending on the make and model, the second failure mode, the batteries bursting into flames, will keep you warm on those chilly Everest nights.

    It is safe to say that climbing Everest has no more significance now than parking your car. Every year, a cavalcade of people charge up the mountain, to the point there are actual people jams at the approach to the summit. Ho hum.

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  7. What a poser by packetmon · · Score: 4, Funny

    We should all know by now if he were truly a geek he would have at least spelled 31337 correctly.

    1. Re:What a poser by loconet · · Score: 3, Funny

      The primary mode of failure for laptops in this environment is hard drive failure since hard drives rely upon the viscosity of air to provide lubrication and damping among the moving parts, the same manner that oil provides lubrication and damping for moving machine or engine parts.

      To his credit, he did manage to slip in the car analogy..

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  8. Great, and I'd like to hear more... by dfdashh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I liked the article, but I really wanted to hear more about the particular problems he experienced with the equipment, and what (if any) type of workaround he used to get them back into shape. In such extreme weather, he HAD to have more failures or problems other than that one hard drive. On the other hand, he didn't go above a certain altitude, and maybe everything was fine and dandy. For that, I can think of the ads now: "ABC Corp's hard disks survived EVEREST - put them to work in your demanding data center today!"

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  9. Unbefreakinglievable by Otter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The comments here are like a parody of IT Guy obnoxiousness. Mark Kahrl is hauling gear up to 21,000 feet and updating a website at sub-freezing temperatures and no oxygen. And summiting Mounrt Everest next week.

    Meanwhile, a bunch of IT dorks who a) have a 70% chance of developing a basic LAMP site correctly at sea level and b) a 15% chance of walking around the block without stopping for breath are sneering at him for -- using Flash.

  10. Re:flash? by rockmuelle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't be so quick to discount this site based on its use of Flash. It's user interface is incredibly well designed and a great example of how Flash can be used to improve the user experience. It's more of an interactive media site than a traditional text-based Web site. And, amazingly, it works on my old 500 MHz G4 running Safari (very few "Web 2.0" sites work on this configuration - even most Google apps perform poorly).

    Skip to the route map to get an idea of the effort they put into the site (http://www.ueverest.com/route_map.html). It's Java, not Flash (which also suggests the designers understand how to choose the right technology for the job).

    Anyway, as someone who tends to have the anti-Flash bias, I was surpised by this site. Even if you're not into mountaineering, it's worth looking at to see the potential of interactive Web applications.

    -Chris

    (And what's up with moderators moding the anti-Flash parent as 'Insightful'?)

  11. Whoa, holy crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A geek on Everest??? Why is his moms basement all the way up there?!

  12. 2000 climbers in 2007; about 600 summits so far by peter303 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Beats previous 2006 record of 480 summits. Gets pretty crowded on top when the 1-2 week weather window opens in late May. This year the window was unusally long, so more peole had second chances. Theres a second, much smaller season in October for a handful of remaining summits.

    The factor that greater increased climbers was the entry of cut-rate Chinese climbing companies from the north. Nepal permits cost about $10K per climber, total expedition is $20K - $60K. China cost be below $10K, thus attracting hordes. 2006 had the second highest death total (8), mostly blamed on the shortcuts and inexperience of Chinese companies. I saw (6) so far in 2007.

  13. Some people from Digg snuck through by Mystery00 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Flamebait: People who have such a strong negative attitude towards all things flash and refuse to look at well made flash websites are just misinformed assholes, same goes for the people that mod them up.

    Non-Flamebait: A lot of interesting information in the website, and the photographs are excellent, good luck with the expedition!

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