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Nerdy Photo in Vista DVDs Thwarts Disk Pirates

maximus1 writes "Microsoft says that the tiny photo on the Windows Vista Business Edition installation disks is an anti-piracy feature. The tiny photo of three grinning men — less that 1 mm in size — is one of several images incorporated into the hologram's design intended to make it harder to replicate a Vista DVD, according to Nick White on Microsoft's Vista team blog. 'The real story is interesting, but conspiracy theorists will be disappointed to learn that it is not the result of a deliberate attempt to deceive,' White wrote."

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  1. How is someone supposed to know by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that they are supposed t look for that to see of the copy they have is legit?

    And it only assumes the buyer cares.

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    1. Re:How is someone supposed to know by bkgood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The BSA and other such agents look out for these tiny missing features, so they know when and where to release the hounds. A mom and pop shop with a few extra installs than licenses is small potatoes.
      I hope you aren't suggesting the hounds wouldn't be released on the mom and pop shop regardless -- easy money is easy money in the eyes of the BSA.
    2. Re:How is someone supposed to know by Reverend528 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So they can locate fake currency floating in the wild and hopefully trace it back to its source.
      This works with money because it is circulated. Once bound to a host, vista cannot be reused.

      Watermarks such as this are designed to prevent counterfeits, not piracy.
      I have to wonder how many people will unknowingly buy a counterfeit version of windows. And how many that do are actually going to inspect their DVD for a 1mm image.
  2. Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And by fascinating I mean WHO CARES?

  3. It's all about the photo by Shabbs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, cuz a tiny little photo is going to stop the piracy. Stop the presses... gather 'round children... PIRACY HAS BEEN ELIMINATED!!!!

    All pirates care about is 1) Does it install? 2) Can I "activate" it?

    Cheers.

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    1. Re:It's all about the photo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      All legitimate customers care about is 1) Does it install? 2) Can I "activate" it? 3) Will Microsoft provide support?

  4. Re:fail by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    actually at the community college i graduated from in may, every non-geek i knew of with vista either had trouble with it or just outright hated it.

    geeks tand to get things fixed or returned, while non-geeks are more likely to live with the problems and bitch a lot.

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  5. Re:exactly by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no one is fooling themselves into thinking that they are getting a $400 program for ten bucks.

    That's for the $10 copies. There are, however, the $400 copies, in which case people are fooled into thinking that the $400 they're paying for this program is going to Microsoft instead of some thief's pocket.

    (And yes, this is in fact theft. The data might not be "stolen", but the $400 definitely was stolen.)

  6. What would Microsoft Heaven be, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Cuz we're already in MS Hell....

  7. Re:exactly by Carnildo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (And yes, this is in fact theft. The data might not be "stolen", but the $400 definitely was stolen.)


    No, it isn't. Selling an item with the pretense that it's a different item is called "fraud".
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  8. Re:Avoid CLick through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    it makes them look unprofessional

    Luckily they have endless security holes, a sweaty CEO that throws chairs and sings about developers, an arrogant ex-CEO who sits and rocks backs and forth like he's at the special olympics, emails about "cutting off air supply" and "fucking burying" people, and.... a music player that SQUIRTS. This is all very professional.

    Yah know, now that I wrote that out, I realize a lot of that could be cleared up just by getting rid of Balmer. BALMER IS THE EASTER EGG.

  9. The devil says, "join the botnet" by twitter · · Score: 1, Insightful

    you have to play them forward to hear the devil talking.

    And you have to let it onto your computer for it to do any real harm.

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  10. Does no one get it? by batkiwi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not about buying a cheap copy for $5 and "wondering" if it's real or not (hint: it's not). A contrived example of why this is important:

    You go to your local mom and pop PC shop. You buy a PC for $1000 including Vista. They give you a disk that has a nice color silkscreened vista logo. 9 months later, the activation hack they applied and didn't tell you was applied is fixed via update, and you call MS to deal with validation. They ask you about your disk, which has no holograms. They tell you you've been "had," so you go back to the mom and pop shop and require a real copy, this time knowing what to look for and demand.

    The same story could be told about small businesses who are not large enough to use corporate version with their own keyserver, and thus buy bulk professional licenses and have the CDs as proof of license.

  11. I don't buy it... by chevybowtie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...you can download ISOs for Vista from Microsoft. Obviously, the disc itself is not important. It's the keys that determine legit or not. I'll bet they found out about this image only recently and this is the spin.

  12. Re:fail by NaturePhotog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many poles, published on many sites, indicate that the business world is nonplussed with Vista and many have no plans to migrate over.

    Many Poles? I certainly hadn't heard much about Polish bloggers before. I wonder why they're speaking out about Vista? :-)

    My experience with Vista has been limited. It came on a friend's new (Dell) laptop. There weren't any particular problems with it, but the software I installed was Firefox, Thunderbird and a slew of Adobe apps (Photoshop, Illustrator, et al, from Creative Suite 3). I'm sure with more general software there'd be more problems, because I've certainly heard a lot of complaints from people.

    But I didn't see anything in it to make me want it, either. It's got the 'shiny' (man, I miss "Firefly") Aero interface, and not a lot else that showed up in "what's new".

  13. Re:If it were porn... by WeblionX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Only until someone finds a way to make cheap replicas downloadable over the internet.

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  14. Re:You will never know. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Vista is still not selling Hmm..
    Yeah only 40 million copies of Windows Vista in the first 100 days. :(
    Who cares if they were businesses, or vendor lock-ins, or whatever. The fact is they sold 40 million.
    But I'm sure you'll come up with some crazy theory about how all the news organizations in the world conspired to report the 40m number when all they sold were 7 copies.
    Be creative..

  15. Re:Link To Pictures by Bizzeh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the majority of slashdot readers will only have the magnifying glass