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College to Deploy First 802.11n Network

Matt writes "Morrisville State College, a New York State school in central New York, is partnering with Meru Networks and IBM to deploy the first 802.11n wireless network. They will be using around 900 access points and are planning to go live this fall."

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  1. Re:hello by nrgy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well I would say he is coming out of the closet but unfortunately he posted anonymously.

  2. 54mbps? by mastershake_phd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    54mbps isn't fast enough? I mean its not like your going to be accessing the internet with anything close to that. So the only benefit is better lan performance. Not to mention the standard isnt even official and subject to change and incompatibilities with future standard based equipment and this sounds like a waste of money.

    1. Re:54mbps? by niceone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      54mbps isn't fast enough?

      Shared between whoever's within range of a particular access point in a school, 54Mb/s doesn't seem all that much.

  3. They came from 2 mbit by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 4, Informative

    And they go straight to the next bleeding edge : 248 mbit.

    They have nearly filled the alphabet btw. Only 802.11z is still free as a name. Can you name them all ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11n#Standard_and_ Amendments

    1. Re:They came from 2 mbit by lousyd · · Score: 3, Funny

      They have nearly filled the alphabet btw. Only 802.11z is still free as a name. Can you name them all ?

      This just begs the obvious answer:
      802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11c, 802.11d, 802.11e...

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    2. Re:They came from 2 mbit by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...Now I know my 802.11a 802.11b 802.11cs / Next time won't you changeyourSSIDfrom'linksys'andenablesomefreakingse curityonyouraccesspoint for me.

  4. **AA by FredDC · · Score: 4, Funny

    The **AA have already sent notices to reveal the people who are going to accessing one or more of the 900 access points. They're gonna sue every single one of them for possible future copyright violations.

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  5. Pioneers? Sure, but.... by ezratrumpet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I got the feeling from the article that this is the result of several properly aligning factors.

    1. The school likes being known as a 'tech pioneer.'
    2. The product needed a landmark event from an understanding, capable customer;
    3. The price _must_ have been perfect;
    4. The school was really ready for an upgrade and the timing was exactly right to make 802.11g obsolete upon order.

  6. Re:remember 33k? by bigtomrodney · · Score: 3, Informative

    The key point is the difference between bits and bytes. A 10Mbps connection is a 1.25MB/s connection.
    1.25 megabytes. Remember that a generic S-ATA or IDE hard disk writes at about 5-6MB/s and that can be a big bottlencek most of the time. So the 54Mbps connection you speak of is a total speed of ~7MB/s. That's not the internet speed. That's the LAN connection. So one person tries to send a large file to another on the network and all of a sudden we've hit that bottleneck and no one can even check their email.
    Although some of these numbers sound impressive realistically for daily LAN usage they are just about usable.

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  7. Re:Not necessarily... by wetlettuce · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 54Mbps refers to the signalling rate of the transmitter not the data rate that is acheiveable - bascially a maketing tools like MB MiB in hard drives.
    The actual transfer rate is reduced from the optimum by the packetising of the data, obtaining the wireless spectrum before transmission and that an inter-packet gap is inserted between every transmitted packet to allow other AP users to transmit data.

  8. First 802.11n network? by sagei · · Score: 3, Funny

    The first 802.11n network?

    I have one in my house.

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  9. About Freaking Time by vtechpilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some of the other commenters have mentioned that the school likes to be bleeding edge and its true. I went there for a two year stint from fall of 02 to spring of 04. They hit a lot of firsts. First school with a mandatory laptop program (you could not enroll in a CIS major without buying or providing a laptop.) First school with campus wide wireless. Yes you could get a signal on any part of school property (Even out in the equestrian program's barns.) The only trouble with the original wireless networks is that because they adopted so early, the existing network was 802.11a. As many of you may know, its getting harder and harder to find and support 802.11a hardware.

    Additionally they removed all the copper Ethernet from the dorms so using the Internet from the dorms was horrible. There really was not enough bandwidth to go around, and lots of concrete and metal furniture didn't help either. This was also at the time when p2p was really taking off and the network had never been built to expect that kind of traffic. To further mess things up, they removed all the pots telephone lines from the dorms and issued every student a cell phone. They got into a deal with Nextel that put a tower on campus, and created their own mini-cell network. Seemed like a good idea until everyone discovered push-to-talk. There were more phone's chirping than birds. And if you think Cell phones in the movies are bad, cell phones in the classroom are worse.

    So anyway while it may seem like they are blazing forward, this is really just a much needed upgrade from an earlier deployment. Most of the students wanted these kinds of upgrades while I was still there. Really all they needed was more access points in the dorms, but I understand that there are only so many can be crammed together before they run all over each other.

    It may sound like a rant against the school, but I really enjoyed my time there, Mainly because I commuted from (sorta) nearby Syracuse.

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  10. Re:802.11n draft for live? by otacon · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of vendors, I'm not sure of the one they are using, but Cisco, and a few other major players have guaranteed their draft equipment will work with the standardized 802.11n.

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  11. Re:Not necessarily... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because of the overhead, a single 54Mbps wireless connection, if on .11a or .11g only, can get as high as about 30Mbps. If there's a .11b device in range and a .11g AP is set for compatibility mode, it can knock the rate down to 10-15Mbps.

    Under .11n, the theoretical rate actually maxes out at about 250Mbps. Factoring in the overhead, this allows, without compatibility mode, perhaps 150Mbps. However, the presence of any pre-.11n device knocks the channel width down to 20MHz from 40MHz, and then compatibility mode with .11a/b/g can knock it down even lower. Chances are that the actual bitrate with a relatively clean signal will be ~125Mbps, and the actual throughput will be somewhere around 70-75Mbps.

    One thing to keep in mind in all of this is that in many cases, the uplink on a switch to the rest of the network is only 100Mbps, so the final throughput from what people are used to isn't going to decrease all that much. Factor in several APs with a balanced channel setup with a gigabit uplink, and the experience shouldn't be all that different from what the wired people are experiencing.

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