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Bionic Hand Makes it to Market

root_42 writes "The BBC reports that a Scottish company has developed a bionic prosthetic hand, which is now going to market: 'The thumb and fingers can move and grip just like a human hand and are controlled by the patient's mind and muscles ... Mr Gow, who is the director of rehabilitation engineering services at NHS Lothian, told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme: "It's the first hand to come to the market that's actually had bending fingers just like your own hand."' The device really seems very "cool", compared to other prosthetics, and seems to allow the patients a wide variety of day-to-day activities. Also check out the patient gallery."

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  1. Hmmmm by alexj33 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The important question is: does it come in shiny brass color, and can it hold a lightsaber?

    1. Re:Hmmmm by Red+Weasel · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was more leaning toward a retractable spur and an integrated smart-link.

      Now we just need a violin player and well be all set.

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    2. Re:Hmmmm by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
      "No, the question is: Does it have a shiny chrome color, and can it be transformed into a knife? :P"

      No the question is...does it move in 'slow motion' and make a weird background noise?

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  2. No Longer Will I Live in Fear by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally, I will no longer live in fear of being introduced to counts, those cute lovable jawas, having a drink at the Cantina, bringing prey back to my cave, being reunited with my father or vice versa!

    Yes sir, I can now tell the next robed guy where to shove it when I'm told his aren't the droids I'm looking for.

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  3. Cost? by u-bend · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone know anything about the cost of these things? The cynic in me is imagining lawyers feverishly rewriting health insurance coverage clauses. I hope that as it becomes widespread, that "joe war-amputee" can afford it.

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    1. Re:Cost? by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      6 million dollars.

    2. Re:Cost? by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 2, Funny

      6 million dollars.
      Man!
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  4. Feedback or Senses? by tb3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sounds from the article ("Now I can pick up a Styrofoam cup without crushing it. With my other hand, I would really have to concentrate on how much pressure I was putting on the cup.") that there's some form of feedback mechanism, but I thought that was years away. Without pressure sensors, a you really have is a 'Waldo' attached to your wrist, you've got no way of knowing how much force you're exerting on an object.

    Then, of course, you really want the rest of the sensory package, touch, temperature, pain feedback, and all the other things your hands do for you.

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    1. Re:Feedback or Senses? by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Now I can pick up a Styrofoam cup without crushing it. With my other hand, I would really have to concentrate on how much pressure I was putting on the cup." A bionic hand that cannot crush a styrofoam cup? Worthless! I want one that can crush coal into diamonds! I just need to remember to use the other hand for, well, you know...I don't know what gonads turn into when you crush them with 500 tons of pressure and I don't want to find out.
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    2. Re:Feedback or Senses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know what gonads turn into when you crush them with 500 tons of pressure and I don't want to find out. Well, since we're all ultimately carbon based lifeforms, they'll probably turn into smaller diamonds with interesting impurities. Or, as in your case, a pair of very very small diamonds.
  5. Use for non-organic manipulation by dada21 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a mentally retarded brother-in-law who has hands we call "the grips of steel." He's mentally like a 2 year old but physically like a 25 year old in great shape. When he grips onto you, he can break bones, and leave a bruise at the minimum. It's impossible to get out of his kung-fu grip, so we don't hold his hand anymore but his wrist.

    I always think of prosthetic hands when I have to help him into or out of a car or down steps. If the hand doesn't respond to the user, or if the user has a bad mental reaction, I wonder how much force can be applied by the prosthetic. Car windows aren't supposed to choke you if they're closed around your neck, but a prosthetic hand has to have the right balance of strength AND speed. What is the back-up release mechanism if there's a problem?

    1. Re:Use for non-organic manipulation by vertinox · · Score: 2, Funny

      What is the back-up release mechanism if there's a problem?

      You have to mentally think the safe word... In Russian.

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  6. Nice by suv4x4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This makes Terminator's job in Judgement Day harder: peeling off your hand no longer means you're a killer robot from the distopian future.

  7. Wow by lancelotlink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These people look really happy. I'm so excited for them. To have regained this much manipulation is amazing. Best of luck for these patients and this company

  8. Cost by bdjacobson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone know anything about the cost of these things? The cynic in me is imagining lawyers feverishly rewriting health insurance coverage clauses. I hope that as it becomes widespread, that "joe war-amputee" can afford it. Just a ballpark figure--

    My friend's bionic arm cost him ~$45k. I don't think his can move individual fingers though. So this one could cost even more.
  9. how strong? by icegreentea · · Score: 3, Interesting

    does anyone have any idea how strong (grip strength, shock resistant, etc) these hands are? i notice theres diagram in the article showing a 'power grip', but it doesn't go into detail on its limits.

  10. Autonomous... by i3spanky · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...did anyone else reading the headline first think that the hand escaped and found its own way to the market?

  11. Not the first by Pedrito · · Score: 3, Informative

    This isn't the first myoelectric (muscle-powered) prosthesis to make it to market. There have been a few. These devices basically work by detecting electrical signals in muscles near the end of the remaining limb. What's really cool is the stuff in development using actual nerve signals instead. These could prove to be much more powerful because the nerves carry much more information and would allow for much finer control than you can get with myoelectric prostheses. Still, myoelectric is significantly better than passive prostheses.

  12. convenient for touch typing nerds like me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I can type with both hands while viewing porn and still have an extra hand available (and one that doesn't tire)!

  13. But does it have bluetooth? by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would really suck to lose a hand but it would be awesome to gain a remote-controlled Thing. I for one welcome our scampering disembodied robotic hand masters. :)

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  14. sweet! by AxemRed · · Score: 5, Funny

    This replaces the hook as my limb-replacement of choice.

  15. Re:meh by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wake me when the prosthetic arm can turn into a big sword, or a plasma rifle or something cool like that.
    Yes, it can already, but first you have to take this blue pill :)

  16. Two words: by ringfinger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Awesome Attachments!"


    I can't imagine making something like this without attachments that extend it's use beyond that of the human hand.

    The goal shouldn't be to replace a hand, it should be to provide something much cooler.

    1. Re:Two words: by TigerNut · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Better think way out of the box then. We have about a zillion things that are designed to be gripped and operated by a person's hand(s). Removing that interface requires that you adapt all those tools to be compatible with the next physical interface point (such as the elbow or shoulder?), as well as figuring out a logical control scheme that is as intuitive as what everyone is familiar with. Direct neural control of an angle grinder, for example, isn't very compelling to me. If you had a hand with hardwired GPS (as another example) then you'd have to map its control functions into something that the user could learn, and it would have to use the arm nerves as the interface... and they're normally only used to position the fingers and relay back touch and hot/cold/pain sensations. An interesting problem but just because you can, doesn't always mean that you should.

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    2. Re:Two words: by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's surprising how your brain adapts to process different types of nerve input. Like, if your prosthetic hand always gave you the sensation of cold when you pointed it in a northern direction, or the sensation of heat whenever you passed it near a "live" electrical source, or a strong magnetic field. They've got a device that allows you to "see" with your tongue, and brain scans of the people using the device show that the visual cortext is active and processing...even in people who are blind from birth.

      So a limited signal palette is not necessarily a handicap, though the bandwidth obviously depends on nerve density, etc.

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    3. Re:Two words: by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

      Great. Instead of cursing because you can't find you box of drill bits, you can curse because you can't find your fingers.

      Imagine having to walk around all day with your "ribbed for her pleasure" attachment.

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    4. Re:Two words: by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did you read the article in Wired about the guy who wore that thing for a year? That's what I was thinking of with the north thing.

      Lot of enhancements don't really interest me, but that one did. If they find a way to condense something like that to an implant, I'd be willing to try it out.

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  17. Re:FIST SPORT by jollyreaper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Inhale.

    Take in as much air as you can. This story should last about as long as you can hold your breath, and then just a little bit longer. So listen as fast as you can.

    A friend of mine, when he was 13 years old he heard about "pegging." This is when a guy gets banged up the butt with a dildo. Stimulate the prostate gland hard enough, and the rumor is you can have explosive hands-free orgasms. At that age, this friend's a little sex maniac. He's always jonesing for a better way to get his rocks off. He goes out to buy a carrot and some petroleum jelly. To conduct a little private research. Then he pictures how it's going to look at the supermarket checkout counter, the lonely carrot and petroleum jelly rolling down the conveyer belt toward the grocery store cashier. All the shoppers waiting in line, watching. Everyone seeing the big evening he has planned. It's nice to see that John Katz is still contributing.
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  18. Obligatory by ehaggis · · Score: 4, Funny

    But does it run Linux? Of course, Linux runs on Palm devices!

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Moebius+Loop · · Score: 2

      Yes, but only if it uses ARM processors...

      (sorry, I couldn't resist it either)

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  19. Re:FIST SPORT by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's nice to see that John Katz is still contributing.

    More like someone copying and pasting the story "Guts" by Chuck Palahniuk (author of "Fight Club"). Supposedly some people faint when listening to him perform readings of it. I have no idea why the GP posted it here, though.

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  20. Re:Uh-oh by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why does everything these days have to be prefixed with an i? iDunno.
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  21. bionic hand job by icontender · · Score: 3, Funny

    The worlds first bionic hand job. This also brings new meaning to the "stranger"

    1. Re:bionic hand job by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 2, Funny

      WOW. It took one hour to get a masturbation joke on an article about a robotic hand. Kudos to everyones self control today!

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  22. Why is it always plastic? by DaleGlass · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I needed something of the sort I think I'd prefer something shiny and futuristic looking. Maybe something like from the Fullmetal Alchemist anime. If it's going to look obviously artificial at least it could be something that looks cool.

    1. Re:Why is it always plastic? by rkww · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They thought of that... see the faq:

      Q. What about the sci-fi robotic hand?

      A. Some patients, mainly military personnel, particularly love the robotic nature of the uncovered i-LIMB Hand and prefer not to wear it with a cosmesis glove. However, because of the need to provide a grip surface and to protect the hand from dust and water, Touch Bionics has developed the i-LIMB Skin. This is a thin layer of semi-transparent material that has been computer-modeled to accurately wrap to every contour of the hand.

  23. a hit with Slashdot by pete.com · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well if they aren't going to create a Bionic women, a Bionic hand is the next best thing I guess. This may cause some very interesting trips to the ER.

  24. My first thought was... by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Thing? Is that you?