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US Blocks Entry For German Black Hat Presenter

bushwhacker2000 alerts us to the dilemma of Thomas Dullien, a prominent security researcher who has been a fixture at the annual Black Hat security conference. Dullien was denied entry into the US on his way to this year's conference. Dullien, a German reverse-engineering expert known in hacker circles as "Halvar Flake," said he was blocked from entering the US on the technicality that he had (years ago) signed a contract with Black Hat as an individual, not as his company. Customs agents said he would need an H1-B visa to perform the contracted two days of training at Black Hat, and put him on the next plane back to Germany.

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  1. O well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    ... next time they will just find one did not brush well enough.

  2. Re:Hurrah! by tomstdenis · · Score: 0, Troll

    Oh fuck off. It's not some big conspiracy. You need a visa to ***WORK*** in the states as a non citizen. He didn't have one and thus was denied entry. I'm sure if I flew over to Germany they'd be all cool with me [a non-citizen/resident] just taking up any old job.

    Actually, the only EU country I know of that lets Cannucks work there [without a visa] is France. Which oddly enough is more than what the UK permits and we're supposed to be all family or something...

    Tom

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  3. hm. by priestx · · Score: 1, Troll

    Would it be a problem to set-up a video conference to train these people from around the world?

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  4. Re:Why would an international conference be in the by tomstdenis · · Score: 1, Troll

    Yeah, except you can't take paid speaking engagements up here without a work visa either.

    He wasn't denied because the session was on security, he was denied because he's NOT ALLOWED TO WORK THERE without proper approval.

    He would have been deported from Canada for the exact same reason had he told them the same story. In fact, if he wasn't a member of the EU he would have also been deported from Ireland, the UK, Spain, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, etc, etc, etc....

    So while Canada is cool and all [hey I live in Ottawa], it's not a safe haven for illegal aliens either. They have to file fraudulent "refugee" claims like the rest of the population of Toronto.

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  5. Re:Why would an international conference be in the by dkf · · Score: 0, Troll

    Except for the UK, he wouldn't even need to show a passport at the border. Not quite. There are still a fair number of internal borders (try travelling to Poland or Hungary...) and the UK does have a border with another country which you can cross without a passport IIRC, being Ireland. (The UK and Ireland are close in a number of other respects too. For example, citizens of one are allowed to vote in the other's national elections when resident; this is the only example I know of where non-citizens are permitted to vote in such an election. I don't think any other pair of EU countries are that close, for example.)
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  6. I understand the situation much better than you by Rix · · Score: 0, Troll

    Don't want to get bombed? Don't bomb other people.

    It really is that simple. The blowback you are now receiving was entirely predictable, and you have no justification to complain about it now.

  7. Re:Hurrah! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 0, Troll

    What fascinates me is that people want to vote for politicians whose platform includes extending governmental interference in life, particularly in the realms of health and retirement.
    O'Rourke: "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."

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  8. Re:I don't want to go to the US anymore. by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 0, Troll

    Osama (who was trained by the CIA I may add)

    No, he was not. Osama had his own money, lots of it in fact, and had no need for the CIA. In fact, he hated the CIA, and America, every bit then as he does now. Just the very thought of "infidels" being in what he considers "muslim holy land" (pretty much the whole middle east) was offensive to him. Contrary to popular belief, the US had nothing to do with the mujahideen (however its spelled) and never gave them anything. The CIA was indeed involved with some other factions in Afghanistan (in fact, many of the same ones that we are on friendly terms with now,) but then just as much as now, Osama and his group have always been enemies of the US.

    What you are saying here is one of those urban myths, which no matter how hard you try to dispel them, never go away. Also contrary to popular belief, the radical muslims who hate us do so entirely because of their religious beliefs. They have had a deep enmity towards the west, and Christianity in particular, since days long before the US was even around. "Stealing oil" or "invading their homeland" really has nothing to do with it, and if you think it does then you are a moron, in fact this is exactly what reformed radicals have said on numerous occasions, and said they laughed every time they heard somebody in the media claim this because it always played in their favor even though it wasn't true.

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  9. Re:Sending Halvar back is one thing.... by zippthorne · · Score: 0, Troll

    Jingoist responses? "Copernican revolution"? Wow. Just.. wow.

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  10. Re:Hurrah! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes, my wife is from Germany, and I'm nearly conversational in German, and I think that the Eurabian nanny states have some extreme crises to face in the coming decades.
    I suppose I take a dim view to this assertion "Some people are ignorant fools who need a shepherd". In an acute sense, we all have our need for societal structures to help out. Chronically, big government societal structures appear a cure worse than whatever disease they were trying to combat.
    Equality of opportunity, not condition, say I.

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