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The Pirate Bay About To Relaunch Suprnova.org
kungfujesus writes "The Pirate Bay crew has been working on this secret project for quite some time now. Back in April they wrote a cryptic post on their blog announcing that something was coming. In a response to this announcement TPB admin Brokep told TorrentFreak: "The past, the present and the future. It's all the same, but one thing's for sure, we will radiate for weeks", today it became clear that he was referring to the resurrection of Suprnova."
who needs suprnova?
... but the symbolic meaning is, IMHO, actually important. From TFA:
We also talked to Brokep, one of The Pirate Bay administrators and asked him why they decided to revive Suprnova. He told us: "We talked it over and decided it was something people would have use for, it would help the torrent community and it would also signal that if you shut one down it will get back up again."Not to be overly dramatic, but things like this show that injustices to the filesharing community (if you see them that way :) ) will, eventually, be overcome.
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Next week on Fox 11, a story on the torrent downloading terrorist threat to the Universe; threatening to "SuprNova" vans at sports stadiums in solar systems across the Universe.
He (Andrej Preston) comments in the article:
"My deal with [The Pirate Bay] was that the role of SuprNova can't change much. It needs to be community orientated, but I hope they make some updates the SuprNova was sooo missing. But what they will do, it's not my thing to decide anymore. But I know they will do [well] and will try to keep the community spirit running." http://www.slyck.com/story1561_SuprNovaorg_Transf
Mininova aside, why would they relaunch Suprnova, when TPB is already one of the biggest (if not the biggest) BT trackers around?
Is there really a market for that many different tracker/aggregators? I guess I can understanding having different sites tailored to different purposes; a site that's designed expressly for tracking TV-episode .torrents is probably going to be designed differently than one built around general-purpose dvdimage/iso/rar torrents, but it seems like this is something where bigger is better. The more files that are tracked, the more useful a site is.
Why create another one?
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Some say these "internet pirate gangs" are equivalent to "domestic bank robbers"! Those who feel threatened should immediately buy a dog.
Am i the only person to notice that their big, uncensored image hosting site lasted about 2 days before they started removing images by the thousand with no explanation? Entire categories disappeared. I'd like to see slashdot or somebody ask them what the heck the point of the site is even supposed to be, since it certainly isn't a place to put things to link to, even generic LOL forum-type images. There's no indication on their FAQ or anywhere else why or how or who will just decide to remove stuff on a whim.
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Speaking as a BitTorrent client developer, I have to opine that BitTorrent is a terrible way to distribute pirated content. All the things that make it a good tool for distributing LEGITIMATE content work against it when what's being shipped around is against the law; it's too easy to track down the people involved in downloading and uploading it, and any attempt to limit that significantly reduces the network's ability to handle the load.
The only reason BitTorrent is being used is because there are plenty of scofflaws out there who want to share this data, and BitTorrent works great to amplify their efforts. Tracking down the initial sources is a bit difficult but not impossible, but there are a myriad of other sources waiting in the wings.
Scoffing the law is a grand tradition in the United States; from moonshiners, to ignoring the double-nickel speed limit on the roads, we've turned our noses up at laws which, while they may have some social benefit, we feel they restrict us too harshly. Often those laws wind up causing more problems than they solve; ask someone who wound up poisoned by ethylene glycol from an illegal alcohol still made from a car's radiator.
In this case we have people being sued, fined and jailed for trading long strings of ones and zeros. The "intellectual property" owners tell us these strings belong to them, even though those strings can vary enormously (re-encoding video alters the data entirely) they still assert ownership. One innocuous file on one's desktop may spell disaster. But with hundreds of millions of people around the world throwing them around, it's practically impossible to stop.
One website returning to life doesn't really mean that much in terms of what's being traded, but it is indeed a symbol showing how futile the fight to enforce the ownership of ideas is; after all, how can one own an idea?
Well, let's see.
* A search engine that actually uses booleans correctly.
* A policy that labels for CD or DVD images match what's on them in some consistent format, such as name, author, publisher, comments, with a matching search engine.
* Published checksums for the images: this could be used to reduce or elimiinate the duplicates.
* Open source or creative commons links: Bittorrent is the fastest way to get Linux CD or DVD images, but they *must* be checksum verified for security reasons.
* A policy of sending 3000 volts to the fingertips of the next idiot who uses yet another format for CD or DVD images, wasting my time with bittorrents for formats that no one but some teenager in Slovenia uses.
The Featured Article on Wikipedia today is the Supernova: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova Coincidence? Or a sneaky new method of marketing?
I'm always bothered when I read articles like this because I know the Slashdot party line is always "File sharing good, fuck the content creators". I get upset because I think of my little brother, who's basically been screwed by piracy.
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My little brother has a band. The music is quite good. The band is quite popular locally. It's so popular, in fact, that people bootleg their music and share it across the internet.
At first they were quite happy about this. They were reaching a much larger audience. Surely these people will come to their concerts and buy their CDs if they like the music (at least, that's what Slashdot always says will happen).
However, it didn't. Turns out (from conversations with their fans on their message board) that no one wants to buy their music. They like it, but hwy buy the music when fans can download every one of their albums for free online? Also, concert attendance has stayed flat. The pirating of their music hasn't suddenly increased attendance like they hoped it would.
So, while the band has a large fanbase (and it's growing), they've had barely enough to scrap by. My brother personally cleans a local diner's grease pit every night for a free dinner. They haven't (yet) gotten a recording contract, and I personally hope they do before my brother is actually eating the grease.
Long story short: don't believe everything you read on Slashdot. While I agree that the big content holders don't deserve any sympathy, there are artists out there that actually ARE hurting from piracy. It's mostly the little guys, and I haven't found one comment on Slashdot yet that recognizes this is as a problem.
I wonder if that's true? The "from its advertising" part makes it sound like a load of bs fud.
Not everyone knows what PirateBay, Suprnova, Mininova, IsoHunt, and Demonoid do. I think it would be good to explain their purpose and their differences.
Other questions: Why does Demonoid have accounts? "People in the United States downloading torrents tracked on The Pirate Bay are certainly in danger." Why is that? What is PeerGuardian? What is MediaSentry?
For those who are tempted, please skip any negative comments. No one can know everything about computers.
This news couldn't have come at a better time, what with torrentspy's recent legal woes...
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Here's the link to the story http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-to-launch-y outube-competitor/
Seriously, what's the point? Are they actively trying to piss off every media and rights company in the world? Not saying that this isn't a noble goal, but that constant provocation from TPB's side will rear at some point.
How about some kind of warning systems for low quality hand cam versions of those, um, Linux images?
Where exactly is it written that your little brother (lets pretend I believe your story for a second) has the right to make a living by making music?
Lots of proffesions have seen their livelyhood dry up because of a changing world. I am originally trained as a baker and I used to be pretty good too. However the increasing shift in holland for people to get their bread and similar products from the supermarket (factory) means there is less and less business from small bakers.
Worse, laws about noise pollution (bakeries work at night in the center of towns) and such have made it impossible to open a new business.
So will you heart bleed for me? Should people be forced to change their basic nature (go for the cheap easy solution) and be forced to buy their bread seperate at a local bakery?
I happen to know two people involved in music. One is Henk, the zingende schilder. Never heard of him? Offcourse not, he is extremely local but he likes singing, he is very good at it. No he won't ever get rich of it but who says he should?
Another guy I know is heavily into experimental music, the type of music were you read that a new band has launched a new cd with a whopping 10 copies, and some are still available. If you see the included list of rental prices for equipment it is very easy to see most of these bands are PAYING to play their music. (And if you ever heard it, you might think they could never pay enough to be allowed to play it).
BUT they still play because they love their music, even if nobody else does.
Another friend is a soccar player, not a bad one either apparently, can he blame the current system of soccer of hiring foreigners for not giving him a chance to play commercially?
NO.
It is idiotic that you seem to think that you are entitled to make a living with your hobby. There are plenty of other hobbies that cost a lot more were people work long hours to be able to do the stuff they really want to be payed for if they could.
Race teams that slave the whole week to put their car in the race would LOVE to be picked by a big sponsor.
No your "little brother" does NOT deserve sympathy. If he doesn't like it, he can quit and get a real job. Else he must simply accept that for most bands the music will never be their day job.
Speaking as one of the billions working a regular boring day job, I can't bring itup to give a damn.
I often socialize with myself. I blame it on the lack of a Christian upbringing.
If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
Note that the above link title is misleading BTW - MPAA haven't "bought" uTorrent. Rather BitTorrent Inc have bough uTorrent and BitTorrent Inc have a commercial relationship with the MPAA.
I recall reading about a link between uTorrent/BT Inc and TorrentSpy too. At minimum, TorrentSpy.com is apparently planning to filter MPAA content soon:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Bye_Bye_TorrentSpy_and_I SOHunt_Both_to_Filter_Copyrighted_Content/all
Worrying times!