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British Scientists Reverse Casimir Effect

An anonymous reader writes "The Telegraph reports that Scientists at the University of St. Andrews have developed a technique to cause the Casimir effect to repel instead of attract. This discovery could lead to near frictionless machines or in theory even levitation."

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  1. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gasp, that means we will have to repel one of the laws of seance.

  2. uplifting by bobby1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How says science cannot be uplifting.... literally.

    1. Re:uplifting by IBBoard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Depends how you look at it - pessimists will see the lower atom being depressed ;)

    2. Re:uplifting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, I've got a chimpanzee here who says uplifiting is total bunk.

  3. Repeal instead of attract. by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 4, Funny

    This could be put to immediate use in the USA, where much bad legislation needs to be repealed and they need to attract fewer blockheads to a career in politics.

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    1. Re:Repeal instead of attract. by gb506 · · Score: 2, Funny

      This could be put to immediate use in the USA, where much bad legislation needs to be repealed and they need to attract fewer blockheads to a career in politics.

      You're so right on, DR! I'm packing my shit up and moving someplace where the laws are all just and the politicos are uniformly uncorrupt and capable. (looks at map, scratches head)

  4. Repeal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    It can revoke laws?

    1. Re:Repeal? by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it appears it's in the process of trying to revoke the law of gravity

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    2. Re:Repeal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Gravity is a lot like your parents, break the law and you are grounded.

  5. casmir by edittard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not a big fan of knitwear at the best of times.

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    1. Re:casmir by Kohath · · Score: 4, Funny

      So you're already repelled. When they reverse the effect, maybe you'll be attracted. It will be sweaters every day for you.

  6. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a feeling that this breakthrough will eventually lead to the development of giant flying mecha.
    You heard it hear first, on slashdot.

  7. Finally... by rootus-rootus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Soon we can do away with stupid things like elevators..

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    1. Re:Finally... by fthomas · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a "lift" you insensitive clod...

  8. Re:wait... by Himring · · Score: 2, Funny

    You are suggesting that they repel repeal in order to repeal the misunderstanding of repel.

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  9. Using the force? by therufus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Micro or nano machines could run smoother and with less or no friction at all if one can manipulate the force. Obi-Wan was right after all! I can become a Jedi!

    So was it only me that heard Sir Alec Guinness read that line out?
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  10. huh? by apodyopsis · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is this? a spelling contest or a discussion about a new scientific discovery?

    Sheesh. Anybody would think /. is populated purely by obsessive pedants with nothing better to do.

    oh..

    1. Re:huh? by Ciarang · · Score: 5, Funny

      You need a capital A to start a new sentence.

    2. Re:huh? by Duhavid · · Score: 5, Funny

      AI want to start a new sentence. Aso, I need a capital A.
      AI did not know that. AI'm glad you were here to point that out!

      Abye.

      APS:, AWhy didn't your sentence start with a capital A?

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  11. Re:Requires a perfect lens by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, well, then I guess we're not going to leave it up the guys who made the original lenses on the Hubble, now are we?

  12. Re:Disintegrators by asliarun · · Score: 2, Funny

    What happens if all the molecules in your body suddenly repels eachother? You will be rudely repealed.
  13. Dry glue? Are you thinking what I'm thinking? by objekt · · Score: 4, Funny

    "dry glue" effect that enables a gecko to walk across a ceiling.

    "Spider-pig, Spider-pig,
    Does whatever a Spider-pig does."

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    1. Re:Dry glue? Are you thinking what I'm thinking? by Carewolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Spider-pig, Spider-pig,
      Does whatever a Spider-pig does."

      "Can he fly from a web?
        No he can't 'cause he's a pig"
    2. Re:Dry glue? Are you thinking what I'm thinking? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Spider-pig, Spider-pig,
              Does whatever a Spider-pig does."

      "Can he fly from a web?
          No he can't 'cause he's a pig"


      "Look out! He isn't paper trained....."

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  14. Re:ummmm? by ROMRIX · · Score: 2, Funny

    i RTFA, but didn't see any explanation or examples. im baffled how this works.. any insight?
    It works on the same principle as zits on your prom date.
  15. Woohoo by zonestalker · · Score: 2, Funny

    now where is my hover skateboard?

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  16. Re:Disintegrators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Total protonic reversal.

    Don't cross the streams.

  17. Re:wait... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wouldn't that be repugnant, then?

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  18. Casimir... by Rhaban · · Score: 3, Funny

    I did not know this guy => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_(dinosaur) had a physics degree.

  19. Re:ummmm? by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Funny

    im baffled how this works.. any insight?

    I assume it involves a cat with a piece of buttered toast strapped to its back...

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  20. Re:Disintegrators by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or even worse: what if all your *electrons* repelled each other?????

  21. From the article by VitrosChemistryAnaly · · Score: 3, Funny

    Their discovery could ultimately lead to frictionless micro-machines with moving parts that levitate.
    Finally that fast talking dude will have a job again!
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  22. miniature giant space hamsters by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have a feeling that this breakthrough will eventually lead to the development of giant flying mecha.


    Given that the Casimir effect actually produces enough force (well, pressure) at tens of nanometres distances between the two plates, that'll be some really tiny giant mecha ;)
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  23. Re:wait... by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, the OP was right. They're repealing attraction. Don't know why they took so long, Slashdotters repealed attraction years ago.

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  24. Re:I, for one by somersault · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've already patented using this technology on skateboard decks, and no, Back to the Future doesn't count as prior art! I didn't get the idea from there at all!

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  25. Re:Being British... by vigmeister · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've always wondered about what would happen if/when a time machine is discovered. You can patent it only for so many years, but with free travel possible in the temporal dimension, just thinking about a profitable business model makes my head hurt.

    Cheers!

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  26. In Theory by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby theorize that cramming peanuts into your arsehole will cause levitation.

    There, now that I've officially theorized this, I can say, "In theory, cramming peanuts into your arsehole will cause levitation." and it's perfectly true.

    1. Re:In Theory by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hereby theorize that cramming peanuts into your arsehole will cause levitation.

      Well, I tested your theory, three times.

      And I've documented the effects, three times.

      I got the same results every time.

      No levitation, but I won't be able to sit down for a week.

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    2. Re:In Theory by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well duh, obviously you didn't use enough peanuts.

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  27. Re:When I hear 'Casimir', I think 'Zero Point'... by Vulva+R.+Thompson,+P · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am a physicist, but these subjects are often beyond me. Still, let me try a short explanation.

    That's fine. The non-physicists here will gleefully take up the slack.

  28. Casimir effect allows geckos to walk on ceiling by mrjb · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA: "The force is due to neither electrical charge or gravity, for example, but the fluctuations in all-pervasive energy fields in the intervening empty space between the objects and is one reason atoms stick together, also explaining a "dry glue" effect that enables a gecko to walk across a ceiling." ... and now that scientists have figured out how to reverse the Casimir effect, this will soon enable geckos to walk on the floor.

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  29. Re:ummmm? by IBBoard · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would repel from the floor, but not from another cat with another slice of buttered toast strapped to its back (which is what this can potentially do).

    From what I remember of the buttered toast cat, doesn't it end up spinning just above the floor as the cat tries to land feet-first and the toast tries to land butter-side down? If so then why is no-one wrapping these cats in wire, putting them between magnets and throwing them off surfaces en-mass to generate electricity while they spin?

  30. Re:ummmm? by 49152 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only works with live cats. The cost of feeding and care for the cats makes this uneconomical. ;-)

  31. Re:Being British... by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

    That should be pretty obvious. The moment that you start to make progress on a working Time Machine, something unfortunate and completely unforseen will happen to stop you from finishing it. Maybe you will just decide to paint bubble wrap red and paint the words 'TENSION SHEET' on it instead.

    Because somewhere in the future, somebody has got to really hate having his history messed with.

  32. Re:Being British... by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Contrary to popular belief, the world does in fact not revolve around money.

    That is all.

  33. Re:Disintegrators by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What happens if all the molecules in your body suddenly repels eachother?"

    Okay, that's a good safety tip. Don't cross the streams!

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  34. Re:Not a high point in science journalism by TALlama · · Score: 5, Funny

    Far from the kinds of stuff you see stage magicians do.

    I assure you, Ladies and Gentlemen of the audience, this gigantic crate is levitating! Between it and the stage are entire nanometers of magic.

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  35. At long last... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    We will finally have Casimir sweaters that will repel lint and pet hair instead of attract it!

  36. I don't see how this is new news... by illumnatLA · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdot readers have had the ability to repel instead of attract for years!

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  37. Re:ummmm? by evanbd · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's all well and good until you have to take the cat down for maintenance. Have you ever seen a cat that's been wrapped in wire, strapped to a piece of buttered toast, and spun for 3 days? Let's just say it's not happy.

  38. Re:ummmm? by dmclap · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, the cat will freeze in midair suspended on its side, because in that case, the direction of spin that requires the least work to get the cat/toast to the correct position are in opposite directions with an equal magnitude. So, sadly, it will hit static equilibrium, so you'll just have a crazy floating cat, not a crazy floating power-generating cat.

  39. Re:ummmm? by hypnagogue · · Score: 4, Funny

    I assume it involves a cat with a piece of buttered toast strapped to its back...
    No, silly! That would be the cat-schmear effect.
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  40. Re:ummmm? by Analogy+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    Check out my e-bay auctions...I will sell you a pair of cat wiring gauntlets - guaranteed to protected you from the savage beasts.

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  41. Re:wait... by russ1337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    >>> the whole world is not American you know

    That depends on who is defining "world".

  42. Re:ummmm? by Kohath · · Score: 2, Funny
  43. Re:ummmm? by Genady · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if only they'd try this with Edwin's cat. Bam! Superpossition of perpetual motion and non-perpetual motion... Ugh. Head hertz now.

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  44. Re:ummmm? by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Funny
    Ugh. Head hertz now.

    Don't worry, that's a cyclic effect that primarily appears when posting AC. In your case, it's probably just your sinuses. No need to go off on a tangent. Have a slice of pie and call me in the morning. I'm sure you're feel radiant by then.

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  45. indeed by game+kid · · Score: 2, Funny

    that's a cyclic effect that primarily appears when posting AC.

    Indeed. The power of privacy that comes with being an Alternating Commenter can be electrifying but is sometimes a revolting experience. It's sometimes better to take charge and post directly as your user name instead.

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  46. Re:ummmm? by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't they mean Schrödinger's cat? It would simultaneously both produce electric current and not produce it until you touched the wire to find out.

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  47. Finally some recognition! by Kazymyr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hallelujah. My username is finally getting the credit it deserves.

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  48. Re:ummmm? by RationalRoot · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is no net energy gain here.

    The cat, due to the spinning motion dies pretty quickly.

    It turns out that the lenght of time it will survive, and thue spin for, is a function of it's body fat.

    In short - you are simply using up the stored energy in the cat. No Net Gain.

    Simply chucking the cat into a furnace and generating electricity that way would be more efficient.

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