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School Boards Rule, Internet No Longer Dangerous

destinyland writes "Good news. The National School Boards Association, which represents 95,000 school board members, just released a report declaring fears of the internet are overblown. In fact, after surveying 1,277 students, "the researchers found exactly one student who reported they'd actually met a stranger from the internet without their parents' permission. (They described this as "0.08 percent of all students.") The report reminds educators that schools initially banned internet use before they'd realized how educational it was. Now instead they're urging schools to include social networks in their curriculum!"

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  1. Sure by baldass_newbie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because kids will tell their teachers and the school boards the truth.

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    1. Re:Sure by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

      In related news; The researchers originally intended to intervied over 2,000 children, but for unknown reasons 723 children were mysteriously vanished even though logs showed they were accessing their myspace profiles just hours before.

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    2. Re:Sure by MontyApollo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I heard about a show once that explored this pretty well - kids telling adults what they want to hear.

      I didn't see it, but someone was telling me about it. They interviewed these kids about what they would do if they were to find a gun. They said stuff like they would never touch it and they would immediately tell an adult. They then put the kids in a room without adults and with a see thru mirror and left a gun laying around. Their parents were on the other side of the mirror watching them. Of course, the kids picked up the gun and starting playing it.

  2. Now we can visit grammar sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    remember kids, the internet might not be dangerous, but overuse of commas can be!

    1. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by techiemikey · · Score: 3, Funny

      are you serious? Over use of commas can lead to comas!

    2. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by Gazzonyx · · Score: 4, Funny

      remember kids, the internet might not be dangerous, but overuse of commas can be! This guy isn't kidding, kids! I once knew a guy who turned in a paper in freshman English class with a comma splice in the opening paragraph. BAM! Hit by a school bus at the end of the day. Perhaps, in hind sight, this had something to do with being chased down by his English teacher wielding a rolled up copy of the paper as a LART.
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    3. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by Joe+Random · · Score: 5, Funny

      However, comma overuse, you see, is something that, though sometimes problematic, can also, in my opinion at least, be a bit subjective, owing to the fact that, in certain instances, things could be expressed in multiple ways, and the expression with fewer commas may not be, to the average person, immediately obvious, or even desirable, depending on the circumstances.

    4. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by lonechicken · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Kidding aside... Sometimes I look at AP-style written stuff and how most editors spend too much time discouraging the use of too many commas, and it just makes some sentences incomprehensible at first glance.

      In a long ass sentence, using commas is like shaking it out at the urinal. Zero is too few, 3 is too many.

    5. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by razorh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You young people and your '3 shakes' rule... just wait till you get older! If I had to get it done in 3 shakes or less, I'd be walking around with wet pants all the time.

    6. Re:Now we can visit grammar sites by beders · · Score: 5, Funny

      The problem, with that, is, you hear William Shatner's voice, in your head...

  3. The 3 R's by dgun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now instead they're urging schools to include social networks in their curriculum

    OMG mathz rulz. I have mad science skillz, lolz!2!@! check out my blogz. c u guyz at da mall. ;)

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  4. While I agree with the sentiment by faloi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the surprising new recommendation from the National School Boards Association -- a not-for-profit organization representing 95,000 school board members -- in a new study funded by Microsoft, News Corporation, and Verizon.

    I'm hardly surprised that a study funded by that group would decide the Internet is safe. And less surprised that social networking sites should be used. Perhaps using Myspace from your Vista PC on your Verizon broadband connection isn't so bad!!11

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  5. Just like the real world by 4solarisinfo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next thing you know, these kids will be poitnlessly commenting on newsgroups and opinion sites instead of worki... Oh Crap, here comes my boss!

    1. Re:Just like the real world by 4solarisinfo · · Score: 4, Funny

      The real quesion is... Does the freezer run Linux?

  6. The internets be edjucationel by lonechicken · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...76% of parents expect social networking will improve their children's reading and writing skills..."

    The internet improving the writing skills of children? That's unpossible!

  7. A new low in misinformation by phoenixwade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Internet No Longer Dangerous != Fears overblown

    And

    Internet != Social Networking

    Geez, you'd think that a user on /. would get that.. I'm sure there is some value in social networking sites for educational use, even though nothing comes to mind at the moment. But, the summation is wrong, the internet IS dangerous. I'm sure that, pulling stats out of my butt notwithstanding, fear of social networking sites IS overblown, but that does not mean the danger isn't there.

    When do I get to mod an Article "Stupid Summation"?

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  8. Re:Yeah great by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty much all assignments I gave (home, or just in class) ended up to be copy/pastes of wikipedia or another website.
    Proving just how generic and banal your assignments and standards must have been. You could have asked them to do a survey/experiment/essay. Instead you probably asked them to "Write a report on Sweden". Let me ask you a question. If someone asked you for a report of Sweden, what would you actually end up doing?
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  9. Children "who reported" x,y, or z by athloi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those magic words, "who reported," show why this is non-important data although most will not consider it so. Like surveys, Nielsen ratings, man on the street interviews, and polls, this is a classic case of bad science. Take a sample and rely on the honesty of the people involved to report difficult truths. I'd say it's about as reliable as government promises.

    I'm all for a free internet, but that requires no one declare it "safe," because then fat politicians will feel compelled to attempt to make it so, even though that's mathematically impossible.

  10. Wherever there is a kid getting in trouble online by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There usually is a parent who is, for whatever reason, not involved. I bet if you did a study on the parents whose kids meet strangers in public after contacting them online, you'd find a few of the following things:

    1) Parents are working extra hours to buy fancy things.
    2) Parents are afraid of their kids being bitter toward them for *gasp* being AUTHORITY FIGURES!
    3) Parents are more concerned about being their kid's friend than a mother or father.
    4) Parents are too lazy to learn how to control their own home.
    5) The kids have internet access in their rooms, where their parents have far less control.

    #5 is something that my wife and I have already agreed to with our kids. They can be on the Internet all they want/need, but they will not be doing it in their room where no one can watch them. It's possible that they could sneak downstairs while we're asleep, but if they can just get out of bed and go to their desk, that makes it virtually impossible for us to police them.

  11. Re:.08%? by vidarh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it isn't, and you've obviously fallen in the trap of dividing one by 1277 and forgetting that 1% == 0.01. Which means you're probably right the public school system has bigger problems than internet access.

  12. Banning social networking not about student safety by PFI_Optix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's about student productivity. It's a lot easier to ban IM/e-mail/social networking outright than try to enforce "now you can, now you can't" policies. Given access to sites like Myspace, a lot of kids would never get anything done without a teacher hovering over them constantly.

    It's also about network security. Giving a thousand high school students unfettered internet access is just asking for trouble, no matter how hard you try to protect your network.

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  13. Re:.08%? by eam · · Score: 3, Informative


    1/1277 = 0.0008

    0.0008 would be 0.08%

    Remember that the '%' stands for '/100' That's why it's a percent. "Per Centum". So,

    0.08% = 0.08/100 = 0.0008

  14. Hell, they are more likely to be abused by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Insightful

    by a teacher than by a total stranger on the internet.

    While we do get some sensational stories on occasion, usually involving hottie female teacher or some male gym coach, there are hundreds of cases that never get national press attention. There are some estimates that children are more in danger from teachers and other school employees than any other source (they were comparing to the scare on churches)

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  15. Re:Yeah great by Intron · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your answer is a good illustration of what the parent poster was saying. "What's the difference between lossy and lossless compression?" Sheesh, that's exactly the computer equivalent of "Write a report about Sweden". No wonder the dropout rate is at an all time high. How about "Does the Star Trek transporter use lossy or lossless compression? Why?"

    Back in the day, we could have typed stuff out of the encyclopedia. Wikipedia and computers has made cheating a little easier, but hasn't enabled anything new.

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  16. Why teach about social networks by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why on earth would you need to teach about sex in school? Isn't it easy enough to pick up outside of school? It's success would indicate that to be true.

    Of course I don't expect the teachers to know anything about social networking, just like in High School I suspected that the teachers were pretty clueless about sex as well.

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  17. Oh no!!! Schools are approving the Internet ... by jc42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this works like most school actions, it'll be a disaster. The kids will soon be deciding that the Internet isn't cool; it's boring and "hard". They'll drop it and go back to other ways of upsetting the adults.

    If we really want young people to become familiar with the Internet, and learn to use it for their benefit, we should take the approach that works: Ban its use by children (where "child" even includes someone 17 years old). Put all sorts of leaky barriers in the way of their access. That way, the kids will be fascinated by it, and will spend lots of time learning how to use it.

    Lots of people have observed that the main effect of most schools is to take various topics and make them boring and uninteresting. Consider a topic like history. How could the story of all the people who came before us (and messed up this world so thoroughly ;-) be boring? But the schools (and some historians) manage to make it so.

    Or consider music. That's a hard-wired human activity, that can be intensely exciting, right? How can we teach kids to not waste their time learning to make music, and make them content to spend the rest of their lives at a desk job? Right: Give them music lessons.

    We should totally ban the use of the Internet in schools. They'll just do to it what they've done to so many other exciting human developments; they'll teach the kids that it's boring and uninteresting, and too hard for anyone but a "nerd" to understand.

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  18. Re:.08%? by bdonalds · · Score: 5, Funny

    At which Verizon location do you work?

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  19. Re:0.08 percent? by AndersOSU · · Score: 3, Funny

    Absolutely, whoever raised that .7 needs to be spoken to in the harshest possible terms.