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Xbox Live Disallows Linux, Unix As Keywords

shafty023 writes "The Xbox Live online service disallows screen names like LINUXRULES, L I N U X, and other variations of these kinds. Other bloggers are reporting that variants of 'Unix' also result in the message: 'Your motto contains inappropriate language. Please try again.'" If this is an extension of Microsoft's anti-Linux campaign, perhaps it's time they gave it up.

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  1. Maybe not completely anti-linux. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Words like Microsoft aren't allowed either. It hard to say what they are going for here. Maybe preventing smack-talk too.

    1. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by hc5duke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would guess "Microsoft" is banned to prevent phishing scams where someone pretends to be from MS

    2. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by Scottoest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As I already replied in this news post, I think they try to prevent any trademarked terms from being used in Gamertags.

      This is another non-story, as is the case with most of kdawson's Microsoft related posts.

      - Scott

    3. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by Scottoest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      kdawson was the Slashdot editor that posted this story - you can see his name at the top of the page. He has a tendency to post unsubstantiated FUD about Microsoft, which is ridiculous, given the amount of substantiated issues people have with them.

      Seriously - submit a story like "Micro$oft gives babies herpes, says new report", and then have the "report" link go to some drooling teenager speaking in all "leet speak"on the IGN forums, and I predict your story will hit the front page by the top of the hour.

      - Scott

    4. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by nuzak · · Score: 2, Funny

      Posted by kdawson on Tuesday September 04, @04:26PM

      Browsers have this neat ability to search within a page.

      I don't know if there's a single editor here who really is one. The bulk of editors work here is limited to filling in the "from the words-separated-by-dashes dept" field when clicking on the green articles in the firehose. Oh and adding scintillating color text to the end of submissions like like "worth reading".

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    5. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by Skillet5151 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think they try to prevent any trademarked terms from being used in Gamertags. While that makes some sense, it seems pretty worthless to block two (three including Microsoft's own) of the tens of thousands of trademarked names and phrases in the US.

      I doubt it's malicious. Just seems like an oddity to me.
    6. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      And 'Linux' is banned to prevent phishing scams where someone pretends to be from Linux.

      ...are you trying to tell me there AREN'T people that stupid out there? On XBox Live?! O_o

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    7. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't consider them editors, either.

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    8. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by RealityMogul · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe you could use the services of an editor?

    9. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by WurdBendur · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is a list, but I can't show it to you. That would violate all the trademarks.

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    10. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by NickFitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...being able to apply a mental kdawson filter is a useful tool.

      Or you could just change your preferences so you don't see stories posted by him, or any other editors you don't like.

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    11. Re:Maybe not completely anti-linux. by catman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did anyone tell Linus Torvalds that his parents violated a trademark?

  2. Aren't they both..... by bherman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    trademarked or copyrighted names? Wasn't that one of the items SCO claimed ownership to (the Unix name)?
    Could be another reason.

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  3. Other words? by FST · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can someone try...other words like

    ubuntu,fedora,redhat...suse,novel? xandros, freespire...lindows...

    GPL.... FOSS

    Richard Stallman Linus torvalds al qaeda?

    Just wondering what's allowed and what isn't.

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    1. Re:Other words? by WwWonka · · Score: 5, Funny

      ubuntu,fedora,redhat...suse,novel? xandros, freespire...lindows...
      GPL.... FOSS Richard Stallman Linus torvalds al qaeda


      ...we didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the worlds been turning.

    2. Re:Other words? by yabba-dabba-do · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great, just great, Now you are going to get the RIAA ticked off at us. btw, can you use RIAA in a gamer id?

    3. Re:Other words? by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Funny

      Great, just great, Now you are going to get the RIAA ticked off at us. btw, can you use RIAA in a gamer id?

      Only if you reallllly wanted to be sniper bait =]

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    4. Re:Other words? by DeepZenPill · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the Halo 3 Multiplayer beta you can assign your character a 3 character ID, consisting of a letter followed by 2 numbers. Disallowed ID's included N64, P53, N35, and a few others that escape me right now. I mean come on Microsoft.

    5. Re:Other words? by jonnythan · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how awesome would it be to piss off Halo 2 players by fragging them under the gamertag RIAA_Executive?

  4. Fortunately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    SlashdotSUX seems to work just fine. OH SNAP!

  5. I registered by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    XXX-Box and MiniXbox360.

    I guess they were on Tannenbaum's side of the argument. ;-)

    Next I'm trying StallMan!

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    1. Re:I registered by megaditto · · Score: 5, Funny

      StallMan? Does that refer to the FOSS geek or to the gay Senator?

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  6. other banned words... by Starteck81 · · Score: 4, Funny

    penguins
    penguinsrock
    penguinseatMS
    Iluvpenguins

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  7. Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously) by Scottoest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But doesn't XBOX Live prevent users from using any trademarked terms when making a username?

    If this is not the case, then my apologies.

    If it is (and I think it is), then kdawson, you really need to give this up already. You are fast becoming notorious for posting complete non-stories, especially when the subject is Microsoft.

    - Scott

    1. Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously) by TheTopher · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Halo 3 Public Beta demonstrated a new feature that allows players to choose an alphanumeric "call sign" of the form A00. The call sign "N64" was not allowed due to trademark issues. I would imagine that such issues are the same reason why Linux is not allowed in gamer tags.

    2. Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously) by Reziac · · Score: 2, Funny

      He does. This kdawson person is infringing on Twitter's intellectual property rights. ;)

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    3. Re:Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously) by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Funny

      He does. This kdawson person is infringing on Twitter's intellectual property rights. ;)

      That's pushing on the definition of "intellectual" pretty hard, don't you think?

      Or don't you?

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  8. Snow by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A friend hated snow so much that he put it in his dial-up BBS's filter, so "snow" would be rendered "****".

    Someone decided to post a Christmas song, to hilarious results from the other possible 4-letter substitutions. He relented and removed it from the filter.

    Unfortunately, I'm not certain what song it was: "Frosty the ****man" or "Let It ****" are the ones that leap to mind.

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    1. Re:Snow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sleigh bells ring, are you listening,
      in the lane, **** is glistening

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      It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas
      Ev'rywhere you go;
      There's a tree in the Grand Hotel, one in the park as well,
      The sturdy kind that doesn't mind the ****.

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      I'm dreaming of a white Christmas
      Just like the ones I used to know
      Where the treetops glisten
      and children listen
      To hear sleigh bells in the ****.

      ---

      Hear the **** crunch, see the kids bunch, this is Santa's big scene
      And above all this bustle you'll hear
      Silver bells, silver bells
      It's Christmas time in the city

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      Another tender Tennessee Christmas
      The only Christmas for me
      Where the love circles around us
      Like the gifts around our tree
      Well, I know there's more **** up in Colorado
      Than my roof will ever see
      But a tender Tennessee Christmas
      is the only Christmas for me.

  9. Re:MSN messenger... by hc5duke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe you're remembering the Scunthorpe problem?

  10. But maybe... by davmoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    perhaps it's time they gave it up

    But perhaps its also time that the people writing these headers realize that a) Xbox Live is a private network, and as such, they can set their own rules, b) Microsoft may have a policy against trademarks in names (I don't use Xbox Live, so I don't know their rules), and finally c) Microsoft is in competition with Linux, and is not going to publish or permit anything that is pro-Linux.

    Its like you people expect Microsoft to advertise with a slogan like "Linux is better, but buy our stuff anyway". You're probably also waiting for American car manufacturers to come up with the slogan "Our cars suck, but buy American!"

    Grow up, people, that's how capitalism works. Build your own game network (at your own expense) and you can set the rules.

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    1. Re:But maybe... by garett_spencley · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was dying to post some joke about just how hilarious the whole concept is, but couldn't think of anything. Immature or not I found the whole idea that MS would do such a thing extremely amusing.

      Then I read the other comments and people pointed out that "Microsoft" and "Windows" are also disallowed words, as well they pointed out that there is a policy that using trademarked terms in screen names is disallowed. Assuming those posts are correct, it now seems like a complete non-story and non-issue. Ironically (as the parent poster is currently modded Troll), kdawson and shafty023 should be the ones modded Troll for the article. IMO.

  11. It's also worth nothing that... by Mike+Rubits · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Windows" is also a disallowed word.

    1. Re:It's also worth nothing that... by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, buddy- I don't know if you noticed, but we're talking about X-box live, here .... Not Slashdot.

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  12. Try "monkeyboy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or maybe "chairboy".

    How about "monkeychairboy"?

  13. Re:And to think I was going to buy an Xbox 360!! by bherman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe you should do some research about your claims.
    1) Vista only support for DX10
    This isn't availible on XP either, and since no one is buying Vista no developer will support it. They don't want to only sell to a small install base.
    2) MS is actually helping Mono develop Silverlight for Linux Link
    Now, since they are helping a community that is actually fluent in Linux development as apposed to getting their feet dirty and then eveyone blaming them for intentionally introducing bugs to the Linux version we're now yelling "They aren't supporting Linux?" I don't like them as much as the next guy, but at least attack them on some more valid claims (OOXML perhaps)

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  14. Re:And to think I was going to buy an Xbox 360!! by TheTopher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The First Amendment protects your freedom of speech from the *government*. Microsoft is under no obligation to let you speak freely while you use their online service. As much as you would like this to be about you, this is about preventing the Xbox division from losing even more money due to trademark infringement. That said, the 360 is an excellent system and I don't think that the inability to use "Linux" or other trademarked terms in your gamertag is a valid reason to not get Halo 3.

  15. Take a hint from the spammers by earthforce_1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are lots of fun ways past a (lame) keyword filter
    Some suggestions to start:
    Lenucks
    Leenux
    LeanUcks
    LeeenUcks
    LinusesOs
    |_inux
    Linu}{
    L!nux
    L|nux
    Linuks
    Linu>

    Or some variant of...
    TorvaldsOs
    PenguinOs
    GplV2Os
    Free$wIsBetter
    FO$$

    Finally:
    $u$E SueSee
    Nohvell Nove||
    UhBuntu, EwBhunthu
    RedH@t, RhedHatt
    Debi@n, DehBian

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  16. slashdot banned too by wardk · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just made that up so you would waste more time on this non-event

  17. Re:MSN messenger... by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My friend Frank Ucker had this problem.

  18. It's anti-retarded fanboy by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Seriously, if your gaming handle is based around your OS, you are kinda of... Well... A jackass. Nobody gives a shit what OS you like, just play the game. It could be anti-Linux, but as you noted, it's more Kiley just anti-moron. There's not reason to make mention of OSes in handles on Live other than to start shit, which just really isn't needed.

    1. Re:It's anti-retarded fanboy by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      WTF do you care what someone elses handle is? It's completely arbitrary so it might as well have something to do with the person. What better to name yourself after than something you like?

      If someone named themself "dachshund17" or "GTO-1963", would that be a jackass move? Dogs and cars are just are popular hobbies just like computers, so if they're ok then "LinuxRules" should be fine too. If those names aren't OK, wtf is someone supposed to us as a screen name and not be a jackass in your opinion?

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  19. LINUX YOU! by Sj0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    LINUX YOU, YOU LINUXING LINUXERS!

    I can't believe these linuxheads are doing this. linux isn't linuxing inappropriate language, linux-linux-it!

    I can't believe this linux. It's linuxing insane.

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    1. Re:LINUX YOU! by the+phantom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Smurf your smurfing language!

  20. trademarks? no by EllynGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is not illegal for private citizens to use trademarked names any old non-commercial way they want to. This new /. generation is seriously uninformed, and way too willing to put up with corporate bullshit.

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  21. Re:GNU by tjr · · Score: 2, Funny

    GNU's Not Unix!

  22. in other news... by SaturnNiGHTS · · Score: 2, Funny

    BallmerThrowsChairs is also banned.

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  23. *Sigh* by Seven001 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Blizzard does the same thing in World of Warcraft. No trademarks as names.

    As others have suggested, we should bash Microsoft for what they deserve to be bashed for, not stupid shit like this.

  24. Horny not allowed. "FingeredAnus" is O.K.! by J_Omega · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/2007/09/04.htm l

    Posted today. They pulled this guys 3-yo tag of "HornyChinchilla" because, it is assumed, they found it to be offensive.

    Their filter suggested "Fingered" and completely accepted "FingeredAnus"

    I'm sure that there's a joke in there somewhere about how it feels to use MS products...

  25. Re:who's making a religion out of this? (oh crap) by Locutus · · Score: 2, Funny
    Should have read:
    Microsoft wants Linux and any other who threatens their monopoly power gone . There is no end to their madness and so they must go.

    Oh, and ask you boss if these are the kind of developers you want behind your enterprise software, because they are there too.

    and you don't want me writing your technical papers either

    LoB

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  26. one sided by Bizzeh · · Score: 2, Informative

    this is a little bias, and the whole story isnt presented... microsoft, msn, and other such words cannot be used... and all cannot be used for a valid reason. so people cannot use live to bicker over ms vs. the world. live is a service that people enjoy, because none of this goes on there.

  27. Re:Advertising Exclusivity? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

    I dunno, I think the fact that he's censored even on slashdot shows how powerful Microsoft really is and how important his one man campaign to get the facts out really is.

    You go twitter, remember the Nazis tried to censor their opponents too!

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  28. It's GNU/Linux dammit by rgo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Calling it Linux is an offense to the FOSS community...

    At it seems even Microsoft knows that.

    geez...

  29. Re:Horny not allowed. "FingeredAnus" is O.K.! by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course we'd all be happy to play against someone called "FingeredUranus"...

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  30. What do you have against Yahoo!? by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Funny

    You Houyhnhnm, you.

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  31. I have Linux in my motto. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I used a often posted line here on Slashdot as the "motto" in live account, since it really is my motto.
    They must have added this limitation later on.

    But what does it help? Can't you just go around it like fx. instead of writing "running linux", write "running on penguin power".

  32. Re:MSN messenger... by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In February 2003 Members of Parliament at the British House of Commons found that a new spam filter was blocking e-mails containing references to the Sexual Offences Bill then under debate, as well as some messages relating to a discussion about censorship. [11]

    That one is pure gold.
  33. Flamebait? by mattgreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm curious why exactly the parent comment is flamebait. I'm sure someone has an excellent reason for moderating it that way, so why not share it with us?

  34. Re:Horny not allowed. "FingeredAnus" is O.K.! by LMacG · · Score: 2, Funny

    Several years back, when I worked with Unisys microcomputer systems, somebody had filed a bug report mentioning that the spell-checker flagged "Unisys" and the first suggested correction was "anuses." The report was closed with the notation "works as intended."

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