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de lcaza calls OOXML a "Superb Standard"

you-bet-it's-not-out-of-context writes "A blogger on KDE Developer's Journal has found an interesting post by Miguel de Icaza, the founder of GNOME and Mono, in a Google group dedicated to the discussion of his blog entries. Six days ago Miguel stated that 'OOXML is a superb standard and yet, it has been FUDed so badly by its competitors that serious people believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with it.' In the same post he says that to avoid patent problems over Silverlight, when using or developing Mono's implementation (known as Moonlight), i's best to 'get/download Moonlight from Novell which will include patent coverage.'"

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  1. Good morning, people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The developers had a conference on the Brain Slug Planet. Miguel liked it so much he decided to stay of his own free will.

    1. Re:Good morning, people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I for one favor unreasonably huge subsidies to the brain slug planet.

    2. Re:Good morning, people. by nexus_VI · · Score: 3, Funny

      Miguel's blog is brought to you by THE HYPNOTOAD.

  2. ROXXXX-annne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You don't have to put on that Silverlight...

    1. Re:ROXXXX-annne by alx5000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      My name is Iñigo de Icaza. You bashed my mono. Prepare to die.

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      My 0.02 cents
  3. He's right... by SkunkPussy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the standard is superb - superbly arrogant!

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    SURELY NOT!!!!!
  4. There is good in him! by Andrei+D · · Score: 5, Funny

    -But, why must you confront him?
    -Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn us over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try.

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    We often refuse to accept an idea merely because the tone of voice in which it has been expressed is unsympathetic to us
  5. Re:Riiiiiiiiight.... by smilindog2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, having read the 6,000 page standards document, I have to admit it's well designed has has excellent.... ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Ok, I couldn't say that with a straight face.

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    Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy.
  6. Re:Miguel's just doing what's best for himself... by lotsofsand · · Score: 2, Funny

    I even heard a rumor that Miguel has a brown Zune!

  7. Re:Miguel's just doing what's best for himself... by Duhavid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone has brown zune, unless they are having intestinal difficulties.

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    emt 377 emt 4
  8. Re:First things first. by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why? It's hardly out of character. I'd want more proof of attribution if he was scathing.

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    There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  9. Foes of Miguel de Icaza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Foes of Miguel de Icaza:

    iso (87585)
    java (15428)
    KDE (100369)

    I'm going to have to say that yes, yes it is. Although it may be somewhat sensationalized, the man DOES own a Zune. I repeat, Miguel de Icaza owns a Zune! If that isn't worthy of a pointless Slashdot flamewar, or at least a paddling, I don't know what is.
  10. Re:OOXML. by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So there you have it, a mouthful of personal opinions. I bet you wanted to spend your time doing something else, like making out with your girlfriend (haha, just kidding, if you actually reading my opinion on OOXML you have no girlfriend to make out with).

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Novell Vice President...

  11. We need an intervention. by seebs · · Score: 5, Funny

    First it was Gnome, an attempt to build a desktop Just Like Windows.

    Then it was Mono. We've had slashdot stories on Miguel's pleas for Microsoft to please not constantly break compatibility to push people towards their implementation.

    Now this.

    Miguel, we care about you very much, and you need to understand that Microsoft doesn't love you. Microsoft will never feel about you the way you feel about Microsoft. Your pure heart is not enough to suddenly make Microsoft embrace any kind of genuine open standard. Microsoft has never had any goal but the ruthless elimination of any possible competition, and all you're doing is enabling the abuse.

    You need to stop, and you need to walk away. You need to get into therapy, and start thinking about what's good for you, and what's good for the people who care about you.

    Microsoft will never love you. They will not adopt open standards to make you happy. They will not try to make interoperation with you better. They will occasionally say just enough to string you along and make you write thousands of lines of ugly, bloated, crappy code in servile imitation of their unholy crap, but they will never actually care for you.

    It's not gonna happen.

    Look, face it: Bill Gates appears to be happily married. It was never meant to be. Just move on, and for the love of God, stop shipping multi-megabyte "frameworks".

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  12. Secretly Working Where? by soloport · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was that before or after he started secretly working at SCO?

    Actually, he really did get the gig at MS -- he just told the rest of us otherwise. ;-)

  13. Re:Always been a MS Shill by g4b · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's Gnome?

    I thought with Qt going into GPL Gnome reached version 3 and isnt able to login anymore, because the user dont has to anymore? I thought Gtk vs. Qt is over... and we all know what won?

    From all the stuff Miguel made, Mono is the only one I really appreciate however. We have to face it: we need ppl implementing MS stuff, or we can't implement all those funny tags in OOXML

  14. Re:Always been a MS Shill by aichpvee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quick, someone go tell miguel! Microsoft just released Microsoft Jumping Off a Bridge 1.0! He'd better go copy it before they get too big of a head start.

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  15. Re:Always been a MS Shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What?

  16. A little ryme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    There was an old fart from Peru
    Who happened to mate with a Gnu
    The son come out well
    Got work at Novell
    And praised Microsoft all way through

  17. Re:Always been a MS Shill by dfsmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...will embody a set of defacto addenda to the standard, and no one will Did anyone else read that as "de-fecto addenda to the standard"?